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Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:42 am

When will the CPU and software capability become reality to route intervlan at 10gig as opposed to current ASICS.
Are we years away?

I mean for affordable pro consumer use with below 20w power usage?
 
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Re: Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:38 am

Technically, RB4011 very close to routing 10Gbit, but I think it will take a while for next generation of devices. RB4011 is already miles ahead of competition in the given price range so there is really no incentive for mikrotik to improve this pro-sumer range.

If you drop the requirement to do it in CPU, then just wait for v7 which comes with HW offload for L3
 
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Re: Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:54 am

... just wait for v7 which comes with HW offload for L3

which will (very likely) work on CRS3xx line of devices (not others). And perhaps future devices, built around similar ASICs.
 
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Re: Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:55 am

... which is perfectly fine since who cares what device does the job as long as it is done correctly, right?
 
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Re: Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:57 am

Right. As long as that device comes with price tag friendly to one's budget constraints. Right? ;-)
 
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Re: Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:36 am

I think so. e.g. CRS309 is the cheapest model with full support (e.g. I don't consider CRS305 due to limited support - no NAT). The price tag of $269 is well within budget of anyone, who is interested in 10G routing. (Its not like other equipment will be cheaper)
 
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Re: Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:48 pm

The problem with current fleet of Mikrotik devices is that while CRS3xx will be great for wirespeed routing, they likely don't have CPU powerful enough for firewalling at, say, 1Gbps (even if many connections will get fasttracked and thus HW offloaded). And I expect that users with 10Gbps LAN would have WAN with speeds around 1Gbps or more. Lack of HW offload for IPv6 is an issue as well (not for every user and hopefully not forever).
As to corporate environment ... well, vendors highly used in corporate environments have "L3 switches" that can do simple routing at wirespeed in their portfolios for quite some time now. I know their price is an order of magnitude higher than Mikrotik's but vendor swap is not cheap either (in various aspects) plus network admins have to be fluent enough in configuration language of the new vendor. I don't know how often that will happen, specially so with apparent problems with some Mikrotik's devices (I'm not saying other vendors don't have their share of problems, but when switching to another vendor the new one has to be pretty much better than the old one in every aspect).
 
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Re: Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:04 pm

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Re: Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:50 pm

For fast routing try this:

Instead of using a physical router, try x86 ROS or CHR.
x86 is a 32-Bit Mikrotik ISO ROS install on a bare metal ( generic ) PC motherboard.
CHR is a virtual 64-Bit Mikrotik ROS that runs on a hypervisor based computer ( such as VmWare ESXi ).

Needed for CHR:
- Intel Xeon processor ( fast CPU clock rate )
- Intel 10-Gig network cards ( or faster network cards ).
- Hypervisor operating system ( I prefer VmWare ESXi - but there are other available choices for a hypervisor )
- When you install & configure CHR on VmWare , choose vmxnet3 network cards.
* If you use good/new/fast hardware , you can route 10-Meg with no CPU load problems ( and possibly much much faster if you have 100-Gig network interfaces in your physical server ).
 
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Re: Realistic time in years before we can route at 10Gbps using ROS and possible up and coming hardware

Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:22 pm

x86 is a 32-Bit Mikrotik ISO ROS install on a bare metal ( generic ) PC motherboard.
Is also x86_64...
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