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Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:34 pm

Today is super day...2pcs of Ax2 ordered in 2022 are delivering today.
Or not?
I can`t login via Winbox or web to these routers because wrong user or password.
I`v tried reset the both with no change.
I can use netinstall but my question is...is there some news in login or pass in Ax2 or ROS 7.6?
Have you ever meet with this problem?
I`ve use the last Winbox 3.37.
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem  [SOLVED]

Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:35 pm

The sticker contains the password. Just write what is on it.
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:48 pm

F...you guys...I``m old man with old eyes and you added little pasword with nano letters on the bottom?
Very very bad idea.
Thanks for answer mate.
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:59 pm

That's not Mikrotik's idea. Afaik it is EU legislation for all new devices to have unique default passwords.
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:29 pm

But letters could be bigger.
Btw debug mode in country are gone forever too?
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:30 pm

Also regulation
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:19 pm

But letters could be bigger.
That's where a smartphone camera with zoom comes in quite handy (I got the same problem yet my smartphone is always with me) :lol:
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:26 pm

But letters could be bigger.
That's where a smartphone camera with zoom comes in quite handy (I got the same problem yet my smartphone is always with me) :lol:
Of course I`ve have to used smartphone.
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:55 pm

How this works exactly? Netinstall still does reset password to blank, right? Or, if the sticker gets lost, will I have not very practical (but secure!) door stopper?
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:06 pm

How this works exactly? Netinstall still does reset password to blank, right? Or, if the sticker gets lost, will I have not very practical (but secure!) door stopper?
Yes, after netinstall or a reset without the wave2 package installed admin password and configuration is empty.
After you reinstall wave2 the password reverts to the one on the sticker.
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:08 pm

How this works exactly? Netinstall still does reset password to blank, right? Or, if the sticker gets lost, will I have not very practical (but secure!) door stopper?
its a pull out tab type sticker on the AX3. but thanks for the reminder to take a picture of the bloody thing!!!
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:07 pm

Oh boy... Mikrotik is turning evil !!! You need better font, better spacing or size for your password ! I tried to read it with my eye, and I still couldn't be sure, and after zooming in with a camera, I understand why I had issue reading it ! Is the goal is to make it even hard for OCR software to recognize it ? Is it a trial to be used as a captcha ? :)
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:50 pm

After many months, finally just got a couple hAPax3 for testing. I was caught off guard myself by this one. The Quick Start guide certainly doesn't suggest you need to pull apart the unit to find the sticker... I actually thought it was manufacturing defect initially – "my unit has no sticker!" – until I searched...

But is there a factory reset mode that get it back to the printed sticker? Otherwise, the WRONG password is permanently attached the unit. Why not just make it a REMOVABLE sticker if /system/reset-configuration doesn't restore it the "factory" state? And, yeah very hard to read – my iPhone even had trouble getting a photo to focus on it.

My bigger grip is I already hate the RED Wi-Fi is "factory locked to the UnitedStated3" message in /interfaces – why do I care, I bought a US model? RED colored things normally indicate a problem to an end user (or admin) needed to fix. But there is nothing to fix – a US model is required by FCC to be locked, and out of my control.

So the user experience for all US customers is a "red" error-ish message appearing everytime someone opens winbox/webfig with the hAPax's?
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:16 am

Same sort of red message as when using PPTP ?
Annoying...
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:35 am

Except here it just comes out of the box, on a home unit, with a red error message, as an initial experience. This is after you've likely played hide-and-seek with where the password is after unboxing. I even RTFM'ed — neither the online manual nor the printed one describe that there is a "pull tag one-time password".

Anyway, still room for improvement in easy-of-use on these AX home models... While I can see the per-unit password is annoying to seasoned admins, it likely more confusing for an end-user if "reset to default" uses a "different" password (e.g. no password) than the one you likely photographed when setting it up the first time.

Same sort of red message as when using PPTP ?
Annoying...
Yup...

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They pick weird things to warn people about. I've never understood the PPTP one...EoIP without IPSec doesn't get the RED treatment? If it's so dangerous, device-lock and if unlocked don't show error...
 
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Re: Ax2 with 7.6 default password problem

Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:51 pm

FWIW, been testing ax3 more.
Except here it just comes out of the box, on a home unit, with a red error message, as an initial experience.
This was true about the RED wi-fi warning, but may be limited to v7.6. It's no longer RED after upgrading the v7.8+firmware.

Now you likely still need to be closer than 22 inches (e.g. FCC minimum safe distance for Wi-Fi) of the unit to see the password ;). And you need to do multiple times — once for wi-fi, once to login initially, then once again at the expired password prompt in webfig/winbox — so still think the whole process isn't very "user friendly". They also make no effort to avoid troublesome letters: my default password has both a "B" and "8", and "5" and "S" in it.

But at least the red ink wasn't permanent.

Maybe they should grab someone from off the streets of Riga & have them unbox one of these on their YouTube live – now that be entertaining.

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