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Mikrotik Certification test

Wed May 14, 2008 12:51 pm

Hello i have plans to take the mikrotik certification test, how hard could be?

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Wed May 14, 2008 2:18 pm

Really easy!
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Thu May 15, 2008 10:19 pm

Really easy!
can you talk more about the the test?
 
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Re: Mikrotik Certification test

Fri May 16, 2008 11:00 am

I did the advanced test about 2 months ago - there were very few questions about routerOS itself,
more about networking in general - know your subnetting, port numbers (MT) etc.

All multiple choice - but they do throw in some tricky questions.
 
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Fri May 16, 2008 11:39 am

I took the certification test on november 07. It was about 1hour long, but to me seemed enough 35minutes. It was online and was covering basically all the RouterOS most used features. I think there were 23 questions (i think)...only about 3 were tricky, but most of them were straight forward...
Also networking average level knowledge is covered... IP basics, just a bit of OSI, etc... but the test maybe changed the time you're going to take it..
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Re: Mikrotik Certification test

Fri May 16, 2008 3:17 pm

thanks gargamel and GuJack20


can u tell more about the most used features (featured) in the test? exemple: bgp? ospf? firewall rules? can u give some exemples?

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Fri May 16, 2008 9:40 pm

sorry for jump up

I want to know if Mikrotik Certification could be taking without the training, like Microsoft or Cisco exams.
Or as I heard that you must take the training before the test.
 
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Re: Mikrotik Certification test

Fri May 16, 2008 10:16 pm

yes egycom

you must take training first - if you fail the test you must do the training again before you can write again.
a bit of a pain, but that's how they do it.
 
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Wed May 21, 2008 11:49 am

we can't really give certification to people we never met. we have to see how you work in reality in a class before we give you our approval. that's how a real certificate should be - something that can be trusted, not purchased.
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Wed May 21, 2008 12:03 pm

I completely agree with Normis on this one!

I run training for a number of security vendors, and some of them literally do give it away for a fee. Others require you to do the training, and let you sit an open book exam, which tests not only your general knowledge but your ability to find the answer to a problem whilst under time pressures.
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Wed May 21, 2008 1:34 pm

We did a training in Poland this year, which is very cheap to travel to from the UK. Even from Latvia I can get to UK for like 20 pounds.
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Wed May 21, 2008 1:41 pm

What about comming to serbia :) .

Here mikrotik is very very popular, and people would like to see you here.
 
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Wed May 21, 2008 1:57 pm

We had more than 500 people in Poland MUM. They came from all around the world. Many people used their cars to drive from Estonia, Czech Republic, Germany. Many used discount airlines to fly in from UK and USA.

All I'm saying is - there are +/- 245 countries (depending on where you live) in this world, and MikroTik can't come to every one of them.
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Wed May 21, 2008 11:06 pm

If there is enough demand to assemble a group of 10+ participants, you can talk with independent trainers (me, for example; you can drop a line to lastguru [at] gmail.com) to make training and certification at your location. I do not mind going to UK or Serbia, because, just as Normis said, the traveling is really inexpensive nowadays.
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Re: Mikrotik Certification test

Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:58 pm

Hi Normis

I did a training and test through Miro Distributions (South Africa) in the beginning of March and passed, I have received my (training) certificate from Miro, but still waiting for my Mikrotik Certificate. - They say it gets sent from Latvia and they haven't got it yet.

Does one qualify for a discounted price on products if certified?

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Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:05 am

Hi Normis

I did a training and test through Miro Distributions (South Africa) in the beginning of March and passed, I have received my (training) certificate from Miro, but still waiting for my Mikrotik Certificate. - They say it gets sent from Latvia and they haven't got it yet.

Does one qualify for a discounted price on products if certified?

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sorry, there is no discount for certified people. but you can start your consulting business, or get more certification to become a trainer yourself. also a certified person is required in companies that want to be distributors, which is also nice for you. and then - you could make a distribution yourself and get discounts :)
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Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:11 pm

we can't really give certification to people we never met. we have to see how you work in reality in a class before we give you our approval.
please correct your slogan on logo to "routing the world we met before"

that's not logical. some specialist persons may be sick and can't sit on the class!
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Tue May 24, 2011 1:21 pm

Hi Normis,

Will you organize training in Latvia? I want to learn all about routerOS and be certified engineer of MT traveling once. I think better to learn in where RouterOS born.
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Tue May 24, 2011 1:27 pm

MikroTik doesn't organize training anymore. We only organize Train-the-Trainer course to become a certified trainer. The MTC tests you have to pass at our certified training partners.
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Tue May 24, 2011 2:49 pm

MikroTik doesn't organize training anymore. We only organize Train-the-Trainer course to become a certified trainer. The MTC tests you have to pass at our certified training partners.
What about Pakistan Sir G?
My country is not listed in trainings and partners.
Think about it too.
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Tue May 24, 2011 2:50 pm

we don't have any certified specialists in Pakistan who have shown interest in teaching. Hopefully it will change soon.
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Tue May 24, 2011 2:59 pm

Normis..

we deployed more than 200 mikrotik wireless link on air with wds, eoip, mpls, WiFi setup, how can we be certify?

i believe we will more better for those just sit in the training for only 3 days courses.

it seem something not fair enough to us as Indonesia using Indonesia language. the next station will have to go china.
 
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Tue May 24, 2011 3:05 pm

ask Indonesian trainers, they will be happy to do individual training in english, especially if it's for more than one person
edcwifi in china also does individual trainings outside of schedule. if you are really interested, you could call or email them and organize already
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Tue May 24, 2011 3:17 pm

we don't have any certified specialists in Pakistan who have shown interest in teaching. Hopefully it will change soon.
is it possible to get online training by some videos or some other stuff?
i am interested to get training and will be always happy to help anyone like me.
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Tue May 24, 2011 3:56 pm

I am on the way.
Thanks again, will be wait to get more.
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:14 pm

ask Indonesian trainers, they will be happy to do individual training in english, especially if it's for more than one person
edcwifi in china also does individual trainings outside of schedule. if you are really interested, you could call or email them and organize already


It sounds like Mikrotik's training mechanisms are seriously lacking. I'm finding myself in the situation of wanting to become certified, and have extensive background in MPLS/BGP as I work for a US based internet service provider. If I'm required to take a class for each test (and it sounds like it's questionable if you can not do the pre-requisites given adequate knowledge), I could easily incur 5k-8k of cost to take 4 tests. (MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCINE). I've got professional level certifications from Cisco and Juniper, which are closed book and proctored in a controlled testing facility(and they expire after 3 years).

Some of the consultants who provide training mention on their sites that testing is done online, after the course.

Is there any thought to changing either the pricing structure of certifications or make it easier to take the exams for people who are already well versed in routing protocols, and mpls. For example, we're using RB1100's and RB1200's as MPLS CPE devices. On all of them we're using MPLS, LDP, layer 2 and layer 3 vpn's. None of us are certified because of the requirement that you must take a class to even take the test.

I could understand it even if you required verification of another vendors cert (cisco/juniper/etc) to make sure the person does have other valid certifications, if you need to know that they actually know the protocols. But the current training/certification system in place seems rather ridiculous.
 
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:44 pm

You might consider starting with this book, which is oriented around the MTCNA certification.

http://learnmikrotik.com/index.php?opti ... cle&id=151


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When certifications expire do you have to retake the course or just retest? Hopefully just retest.
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Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:26 pm

You might consider starting with this book, which is oriented around the MTCNA certification.

http://learnmikrotik.com/index.php?opti ... cle&id=151


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I'm ordering this book, because I'm planning my MTCNA test for the last week of February.

Does anybody has something to say about this book?

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Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:30 pm

I read it in less than a day. It is perfect for the RouterOS beginner. The MTCNA test is very easy. The MTCWE was the hardest IMO.
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Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:19 pm

I bought and read it yesterday, but I was looking for more info and help/detail on mangle/qos/pcq rules that I can't seem to find anywhere. (my thread here in case you're feeling helpful: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=58703 )

Though it is a good book and the firewall walkthrough is one of the best I've read so far since it's summary is basically step by step from zero to set it up.
 
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:04 am

I could understand it even if you required verification of another vendors cert (cisco/juniper/etc) to make sure the person does have other valid certifications, if you need to know that they actually know the protocols. But the current training/certification system in place seems rather ridiculous.
I don't understand your complaint. Just that you know JunOS doesn't mean you know RouterOS. The training is not about TCP-IP and protocols. It's about RouterOS specific things. Even if you have the highest level of Cisco certification, it doesn't mean you know how to Netinstall or how hw-frames affects Nv2 links.
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:13 pm

When certifications expire do you have to retake the course or just retest? Hopefully just retest.
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:17 pm

When certifications expire do you have to retake the course or just retest? Hopefully just retest.
What about this normis?

For non-trainers: You need to attend a new training and attend the exam again. In three years, a lot of new RouterOS features will be made, this is the reason. If you can talk to your old trainer, maybe they can organize a "repeated" class where only the new features are covered, but this has to be arranged individually.

But if you are not a trainer, the certificate validity is not a big concern for you.

for trainers, some other rules are in place.
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:35 pm

How we can hide some or all certificates from the list in public profile view, dear Normis?
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Fri May 25, 2012 11:08 am

But if you are not a trainer, the certificate validity is not a big concern for you.

What do you mean by this sentence?? I always thought that it should be a big concern because of the prerequists to take advanced trainings?!?

The more important question to me is something I already asked your Support Team, but didn't get a 100% clear answer (I asked that long time ago so I believe it wasn't certain at that point of time). My question still remains the same: Do I have to recertifiy for ALL certificates I'm holding or just the most advanced??? If I'm holding the MTCINE certificate, which I'd like to take this year, I hope that in 3 years I don't have to take 3 classes again (MTCNA, MTCRE and MTCINE)?? I'm pretty sure that if someone can recertifiy for MTCINE than MTCNA shouldn't be a problem for that person, but taking 2 more classes (next to the MTCINE) would be a waste of time and money. Just like with Cisco a higher certification also prolongs lower ones. There wouldn't be many CCNPs around if they would have to take 5 exams every 3 years.

My personal oppinion is that it would be great if ppl who attended a course and certifiied there should be able to recertifiy online without attending the course again. There are two BIG reasons for my oppinion:
1. If somebody no longer uses RouterOS and therefore doesn't know what changed in the last 3 years, why should he recertify at all??
2. If so much changed and so many new features where introduced and he doesn't know anything about it, he won't pass anyway. So no problem that the value of the MikroTik certificates are in danger.

But as mentioned, first/inital certification shouldn't be possible without taking the training.



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Fri May 25, 2012 11:31 am

Hello uebi,
If I'm holding the MTCINE certificate, which I'd like to take this year, I hope that in 3 years I don't have to take 3 classes again (MTCNA, MTCRE and MTCINE)??
It is not required to renew your MTCNA certificate to attend any of engineer level courses.
My personal oppinion is that it would be great if ppl who attended a course and certifiied there should be able to recertifiy online without attending the course again
You can agree on a shorter re-certification training course (covering new features implemented during last 3 years) with any of our Training Partners and take the certification test in the class under the supervision of a trainer.

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Fri May 25, 2012 11:46 am

Hi Edmunds!

Thanks for the quick reply!
If I'm holding the MTCINE certificate, which I'd like to take this year, I hope that in 3 years I don't have to take 3 classes again (MTCNA, MTCRE and MTCINE)??
It is not required to renew your MTCNA certificate to attend any of engineer level courses.

So an expired MTCNA allows somebody to attend an engineer level course?? I took my MTCNA and MTCRE last year, if I attend the MTCINE training this year I can reattend the MTCINE training in 3 years with an expired MTCNA and MTCRE (which is about to expire in 2 years)??? Only downside would be that I'm "just" MTCINE certified but no longer holding an MTCNA and MTCRE certification or will they still be valid?



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So an expired MTCNA allows somebody to attend an engineer level course?? I took my MTCNA and MTCRE last year, if I attend the MTCINE training this year I can reattend the MTCINE training in 3 years with an expired MTCNA and MTCRE (which is about to expire in 2 years)??? Only downside would be that I'm "just" MTCINE certified but no longer holding an MTCNA and MTCRE certification
Correct.

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So an expired MTCNA allows somebody to attend an engineer level course?? I took my MTCNA and MTCRE last year, if I attend the MTCINE training this year I can reattend the MTCINE training in 3 years with an expired MTCNA and MTCRE (which is about to expire in 2 years)??? Only downside would be that I'm "just" MTCINE certified but no longer holding an MTCNA and MTCRE certification
Correct.

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Ok, thanks for the clarification! :-)


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How many points do you need to pass the test? Is it the same for every test, or does it vary between certificates?
 
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How many points do you need to pass the test? Is it the same for every test, or does it vary between certificates?
Passgrade is 60% for every test.

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Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:04 am

Dear Edmunds
isn't better to give an exam chance in one of engineering levels (only 1) to whom passed the MTCNA exam with more than 80%?

(with that i can do MTCINE exam test without hard sits :) )
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So an expired MTCNA allows somebody to attend an engineer level course?? I took my MTCNA and MTCRE last year, if I attend the MTCINE training this year I can reattend the MTCINE training in 3 years with an expired MTCNA and MTCRE (which is about to expire in 2 years)??? Only downside would be that I'm "just" MTCINE certified but no longer holding an MTCNA and MTCRE certification
Correct.

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First of all sorry for necroposting ;-)

We are hosting 3 or 4 MikroTik Trainings with an official training partner this year. We did that quite often and as time goes buy, the certifications are going to expire and former training participants are asking us how to keep their certifications. I just want to ask if there are any (good) news regarding this topic or if the statement from above is still valid. The problem is that I told the former participants about how this is handled but some of them actually didn't believe that and the others were just laughing about this solution.

Will there be any change in the future (or have there been any changes already) that people who already have ATTENDED A TRAINING and passed the exam can renew it by passing an online exam just like at the end of the classroom training? Busy technicians don't wanna spend a lot of time and money by attending a training they just don't need as they are using MikroTik on a daily basis. Sadly MikroTik is the only vendor I'm aware of who forces people not just to recertify but to attend a training again, which is a hard point to justify when talking to possible training participants.



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Re: Mikrotik Certification test

Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:37 am

Just a short update for everybody who is interested:

After I didn't get a response here I opened a ticket, because I have to know a correct and up to date answer as we are hosting at least two trainings this year and I will be definitively asked this question (as everytime we are hosting a training). MikroTik has still the same opinion about recertification: If you want to keep your certification, you have to ATTEND a training AGAIN! Not just recertificate, but sit in an MTCNA training and learn again what an IP address is to keep your MTCNA certification (that's sponsoring the training partners I guess...). It's also still the same that a higher level certificate will NOT recertificate an MTCNA. So if you are MTCNA and made the MTCRE (for example), you have to attend BOTH classes again in 3 years.

This sucks so damn hard!
As MikroTik is the only company with this recertification policy I expect that it will also be the company with the highest rate of expired certification.


Hoping that someday MikroTik will realize that this is a verrrrrrry stupid policy...


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Re: Mikrotik Certification test

Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:40 am

uebi during those three years, we have introduced plenty of new features, changed some commands, removed things and completely reorganized how queues work. it's not "just sitting". it is keeping yourself up to date.

you DO NOT HAVE TO RECERTIFY MTCNA if you have higher grade certificate. you must have misunderstood something.
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