I have my 2.4ghz AP .5 miles away from alll canopy WISP 900mhz 5.8 2.4ghz everything you could think of backhauls and all.... No problems so far... So its not eating me.. -JordanDoesn't matter. That is the wonderful part about it. Canopy eats 802.11 signals and spits them back out. They will take you down!
Yes im sure i talked to one of the Installers for there wisp, they run on all frequencys. You can also see the omni's he has on the tower. I also can pick up there 2.4ghz SSID of 2.4ghz. It is funny that i am not affected as the rest are... Im using an Rb133 with an Sr2 with a 15 dbi comet antenna.... I mite be a bit higher than them though. But they are STRICKTLY Canopy, They lease there equipment... Noise floor on 2.4ghz is 98-103... Most of my clients signals are in the 69-78's with 2 being in the 80-85 (2 miles away not clear freznel zone and not high enough power equipment).Hard time believing that. You're sure they are operating on 2.4 as are you?
Sell your home to get there equipment too...Good suggestion
Wonder if using a directional antenna and pointing it right toard there AP with a High power canopy unit set to the same settings as there would do anything...Canopy isn't all that expensive for modest quantities of subscriber equipment. I'd suggest avoiding 2.4 p2mp altogether.
We don't use it because it's getting outdated in the 900mhz range and it can't hold a candle to Alvarion in the 5ghz range. I'm more concerned about spectrum efficiency, speed, sensitivity, and reliability than cost. Cost is still important though.
Different brands of equipment at the same site on the same frequencies will interfere with each other. The same brands will too if not setup in a cooperative manner. Tell the other 2.4 operator you will get some canopy too, and you need to configure it in a manner that's compatible with theirs. If they don't cooperate, remind them it's a fast path of mutually assured destruction as far as usefulness of 2.4
So like what are you trying to do take down a Canopy AP or backhaul unit? Could come in handy if Canopy does that with your equipment....Initial Info for Canopy Killer 1.0
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That sure would be nice and i give that my vote aswell.I don't like the idea of causing another wisp problems no matter what the reason.
My vote is to improve mikrotik so it can handle noise like canopy.
Probably depends on the card, but with quality hardware you can do it for as long as you need to for a successful alignment.Back to the subject.
How long can you run a card in alignment mode with max power?
Perhaps the Motowi4 Community is a more comfortable place for you to run down MikroTik?I don't believe this to be the correct venue to have this discussion.
Y'all just let us know what you feel is reasonable... Wouldn't want to knock you off your pace or anything!Author: jwcn Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject:
I think they're just jealous. Mikrotik has its place - I use it for my core router and mini-pops. It also works well for Hotspots. Also works for a cheap backhaul solution. Other than that Canopy and Alvarion are the only real multi-point solutions.
George, I would like to update you on this topic, since the new Canopy 400 system is very frequency efficient, more than any other 11a based solution. it provides 21 Mbps Data in a 10 mhz channel. Its OFDM based and also its GPS sync. You can populate a 4 sector pop just with 20 mhz ... I dont belive there is any other solution like this on the market.Canopy reflects the lowest efficiency per Hertz and wins the race to the bottom while killing any more efficient radios around it.
using open standards should be the focus. I dont want to stuck either to MT(Nstreme) nor to Motorola for the future of my business.Correct, three non-overlapping channels. Best throughput I've seen in real life is 3.4megs down 1.2 up. With GPS sync you can run 6 sectors on the same tower. I believe that to be frequency efficient. Alvarion is better in regards to frequency efficiency however the throughput is much less. I successfully run four sectors on identical frequencies with Alvarion on the same tower.
Enabling WISP's to co-exist should be the focus, not the annihilation of a certain product. I've tested the N Stream solution mentioned here. It works well for co-existence, Canopy didn't notice the difference nor did it seem to have a negative effect on its operation.
My beef with 802.11 based equipment is based on the following experiences:
1. Customers in the finance industry will not become customers if the equipment is 802.11 based.
2. Prior to deploying Motorola and Alvarion equipment, during the lightening season, I was replacing 802.11 based equipment on a daily basis regardless of grounding and surge surpression methods. In the past three years I have yet to replace even one Motorola radio or access point. To date, I've had to replace two Alvarion radios. Yesterday I had to replace six 802.11 devices (Mix of Tranzeo and 133c clients)
3. My closest competitor uses almost exclusively Canopy, here it is a matter of survival. Why waste money on an 802.11 deployment to have everyone disconnect the moment someone fires Canopy or Alvarion up?
4. With Alvarion I can run 900 links at -90 with no dropouts or customer complaints. Canopy at -84.
5. Check out this topic: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... lit=trango
Glad to see you back!!I finally have more time to get back to this issue, will be working on a tool to bring Canopy to it's knees. Motorola is a major thorn in my side and I WILL NOT PLAY NICE.
Sorry it took so long to post back.
get yourself a rf jammer and suicide honoroubly (by taking down your competitor too)I finally have more time to get back to this issue, will be working on a tool to bring Canopy to it's knees. Motorola is a major thorn in my side and I WILL NOT PLAY NICE.
Sorry it took so long to post back.