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Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:36 am

Any particular reason why the Gateway Address and Interface are now combined in one column when viewing IP - Routes in WinBox or CLI?

Example when viewed via CLI:

# DST-ADDRESS PREF-SRC GATEWAY DISTANCE
0 ADo 0.0.0.0/0 222.222.222.129... 110
1 S 0.0.0.0/0 222.222.222.89 ... 200
2 ADo 111.111.111.0/24 222.222.222.129... 110
3 ADo 111.111.112.0/24 222.222.222.129... 110
4 ADo 111.111.113.0/24 222.222.222.129... 110
5 ADo 111.111.114.0/24 222.222.222.129... 110


When viewed in WinBox the Gateway column says:

222.222.222.129 reachable ether1

This is inconvenient because now I am unable to sort the routes by Interface, but only gateway. Is this a bug, intended or am I overlooking something obvious?

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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:14 pm

So, is nobody else seeing this? No more Interface Column? This screenshot is of a x86 box running v3.18 with routing-test package.



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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:11 am

what version do you use?
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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:38 pm

The screenshot I posted is of a x86 box running v3.18 with routing-test package installed. I think I noticed this on earlier versions as well. Checking a different x86 box running v3.16 with routing-test package installed and it also shows the problem. I was hoping v3.18 would fix it, but it hasn't.

What version is your screenshot of and is it a x86 box?

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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:18 pm

oh, sorry, did not notice - I use regular routing package... so it seems like '-test' package feature
 
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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:42 am

So...I've found that disabling routing-test and running the routing package brings back the Interface column. Is this something that is going to be fixed in the next routing-test release or is MikroTik planning on doing away with the Interface column?

What are the drawbacks to running routing vs. routing-test? Any OSPF or BGP surprises I should be aware of?

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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:39 am

Well, maybe not.

Now the Interface column is gone again in v3.18 running the standard routing package. It was there last night...powered down the router to move it to it's new location today and now the Interface column is gone again.

Went ahead and downgraded to v3.14 running standard routing package and now have my Interface Column back!

Any thoughts on this problem from the guys at MikroTik?

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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:59 am

checked on all platforms using RouterOS 3.18 + standard routing package - all /ip route in winbox showed interface column with correct values in it.

edit:

but, see your /ip routing field if you are using routing-test dont you see anything suspicious there like:
[admin@Mikrotik] > ip route print detail 
Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit 
 3 A S  dst-address=172.16.1.0/24 gateway=172.16.22.2 reachable bridge1 distance=1 scope=30 target-scope=10
and same in winbox - you have additional text in gateway field that indicates what interface is used for that rule. Therefore - interface column is obsolete if you are using routing-test package.
 
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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:07 pm

checked on all platforms using RouterOS 3.18 + standard routing package - all /ip route in winbox showed interface column with correct values in it.

edit:

but, see your /ip routing field if you are using routing-test dont you see anything suspicious there like:
[admin@Mikrotik] > ip route print detail 
Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit 
 3 A S  dst-address=172.16.1.0/24 gateway=172.16.22.2 reachable bridge1 distance=1 scope=30 target-scope=10
and same in winbox - you have additional text in gateway field that indicates what interface is used for that rule. Therefore - interface column is obsolete if you are using routing-test package.

Hello Janisk,

Thank you for the reply.

So, I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. First you say you've checked v3.18 and the Interface column is there. Then you confirm v3.18 running routing-test no longer has an Interface Column. Correct?

Now try loading routing-test to your x86 box run it for a couple hours, load OSPF, BGP tables etc. Confirm the Interface Column is gone. Then disable routing-test and run standard routing package. Reboot once or twice and the Interface Column will disappear again even though you are running v3.18 with standard routing package.

Interface Column should NEVER become obsolete. It is very important for us to be able to sort our routing table by Interface as well as gateway! They are not always one in the same! For example I need to be able to sort all the gateway addresses that we have on one Interface. This can no longer be done without an Interface Column.

Thank you for partially confirming the bug we are seeing on several x86 boxes running v3.18! Do you think the next release will have a fix for the vanishing Interface Column problem?

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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:10 pm

run a "/system package print" so we can actually see that it's standard routing package. My guess is that you installed the right package but it's not enabled. I can confirm that with routing-test it's normal for the routing table to look different, I think it has to do with the recursive gateways and such now.

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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:29 am

indeed, if you have enabled routing package, then you are able to show interface column (in scenario - you installed routing-test package, winbox is saving session info, and then you install and enable routing package, as result, interface column is available to you, but is not show, so do "click clikc" and enable that column)

if you have routing-test package active - there is no interface column available, just of field that shows through what ip address with what interface route is available
 
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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:47 am

just to repeat - you have to select the "interface" column again from the context menu, after "downgrading" to the regular package.

0. you have your interface column selected from the context menu, and winbox remembers it
1. you install 'test'
2. interface column is gone (interface is shown elsewhere)
3. you install 'regular' again - column is gone, BUT it's selectable

Winbox just couldn't save this as part of your layout, because such option is not available when 'testing' is installed.

so - you need to enable the column after such downgrade, as Chupaka showed you in the screenshot
 
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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:27 am

Hello,

I went ahead and upgraded back to v3.18 with standard routing package from v3.14 with standard routing package. This is what I see. Where is the Interface Column? Are there any packages installed that I should remove?

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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:31 am

:shock: :?


I will try to check this
 
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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:40 am

Hello,

Great, thank you. To add a bit more information the Gateway Column is now blank when I populate the routing table. No IP addresses or "reachable" comments.

What is a good v3.x package that I can downgrade to while you look into this? I really need to get this router back online. I need OSPF, BGP and routing filters to work. Or sould I just drop back to where I was with v2.9.48?

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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:47 am

delete winbox files in your users profile and connect again to the router everything should be fine then

that that is only cosmetic - you cansee interface printout from /ip route under console

devs are already forking on the fix
 
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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:54 am

Delete what files where? The "File" directory doesn't show anything in it.

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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:56 am

on your PC under c:/documents and settings/application data/Mikrotik etc.

i do not have windows PC so i cannot say precise path to the files

for me these files where here:
/home/janisk/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/janisk/Application Data/Mikrotik/Winbox
 
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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:58 am

Seems that when you connect to the router with a test package, it will download the appropriate winbox files for the layouts, but when you downgrade again, winbox files are not updated ...
 
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Re: Interface Column missing when viewing Routes...

Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:10 am

Ah ok, I didn't find the files, so I just downloaded winbox again from the router and that fixed it. What a relief to have the Interface Column back! Thanks!

BTW, you guys aren't going to eliminate the Interface Column are you? I don't see any benefit in removing it.

Thanks again,

Brad

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