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Sample Installations - Sticky Please

Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:07 pm

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Please upload pictures of your installations. It'll help guys who aren't as experienced as some of us a good idea of how to do things right.

I'll get the ball rolling with an RB411, an R52 and a 24dBi grid antenna with 3m LMR400 cable.
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Here's an RB600 mounted in an IP65 box.
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Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:33 pm

no grounding for the board?
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Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:13 pm

no grounding for the board?
Photo taken halfway through installation :)

Here's one of an RB600 and a RB433AH in the same box.
RB433AH bolts to the backplate with brass bolts.
RB600 used plastic stick on mounts. Hence ground cable.
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:09 pm

My PC boxes;)
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:11 pm

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Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:33 pm

Hi All
We are busy to install a mikrotik network in RSA, we have learned the hard way about winds on our high sites. We have used 38mm by 1.6mm steel poles then our August winds came and blew our hole structure down and we had to rebiuld it with 50mm by 10mm steel poles and straped it down with 10mm cables, the grids had to be tied at the back with cables aswell becaus the L bracked have broken off by the wind, here are pickture after the rebuld Image
 
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:21 pm

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Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:35 am

Couple of piccy's to share, some might remember some pictures from a MUM presentation in singapore a couple of years back..

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How we have built a tower structure in a VERY windy location with only 3 holes in the ground as well (hard to access site and VERY hard ground) - Note fence around bottom keeps animals etc out and provides strentgh to overal structure..

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How we apply earthing to Coax cables at the bottom of one our our standard poles.
There has been a lot of talk in the past about the whole earthing issue and i suspect its something many people overlook.

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Site im just building showing how i like to make use of wooded poles with microwave dish's (i hate wooden poles)
Also, note use of cable clamps, not a zip tie in site...
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:42 pm

This is pretty typical of all our Smaller AP's. We have 5.8 back hauls to a Local 900Mhz XR9 system
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What we have up top
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Here is a custom job I did for the top of a building in the center of town
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Proof that cisco and mikrotik can live in the same box :) This is 224 feet up on a coal burner for a power plant. Coal dust was an issue so silicone was used on the door and vent holes.
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Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:38 am

Hi Justin,

I really like the three pole tower design, the added strength eliminates any issues with "sail" area from the panels. We have been using the lighting arrestors to earth the cables as well as provide some protection against strikes, are you using the shield penetrating earth kits as well as arrestors, or just the earth kits ?


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Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:07 pm

Hi Justin,

I really like the three pole tower design, the added strength eliminates any issues with "sail" area from the panels. We have been using the lighting arrestors to earth the cables as well as provide some protection against strikes, are you using the shield penetrating earth kits as well as arrestors, or just the earth kits ?

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Yip that structure can handle a lot of load with panels or big dish's, and can have the tops extended -see the flanges on top (or doubled) to give more height if required.
As irony would have it im visiting that site tommorow (first time in a year) because a bad wind in a storm has destroyed the solar panels?!

To be honest we dont bother with lightening arrestors anymore couple of points why;
1: If lightening really has a go the gear is toast, give up, its cheap gear replace it...
2: Its really the static buildup (misty water laiden wind etc) that we are trying to get rid off and it normally shows with better more solid connections and long lasting wireless cards..

The effect has been though since being a lot more pro-active in earth things (and no we arnt perfect not every site is done - just the worst ones) i cant remember the last card we have had to replace thats had a fried rx or tx in it? (for no apprant reason)

Dont get me wrong either, we have a lot of sites in harsh places like the Marlbrough sounds and had a network down the west coast (south island) so these things get some discharge around them..

So to answer the question, earth kits only.
(usualy cabinent has an earth bar in it as well for radios/other gear as well)

PS- You ever get down this way Andrew? -Beer...
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Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:03 am

Hey Justin,

Yes I come down that way every now and then, I am actually down there next week. It would be great to catch up for a beer.

This is a bit ot, so might be best to email me tauranga at btg.co.nz


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Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:43 am

Hi,

this is how to install a tower PART1

Mount the tower and the steel wires. These are steel wires of 8mm of diameter.
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Mount the base tower and atach the tower to it with some help.. :lol:
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Put the different level wires into the wires installed supports
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:46 am

Hi,

this is how to install a tower PART2

Test and revise the tower with care when wires are fully installed
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Claim for some help again to go up to the tower and
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easy install the equipement
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:14 am

I'm worried about the weld penetration on this bracket.

Did you get this bracket x-rayed before mounting it?
Did the fabricator use plug welds from the back for added strength?
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:03 am

Hi,


believe me, this support is very safe. It's 1 cm depht. It's welded and has 3 layers of protective coating. I'll send you more pictures when I have time.
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Re: Sample Installations - Sticky Please

Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:58 pm

This is pretty typical of all our Smaller AP's. We have 5.8 back hauls to a Local 900Mhz XR9 system
Image
What we have up top
Image

Here is a custom job I did for the top of a building in the center of town
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Proof that cisco and mikrotik can live in the same box :) This is 224 feet up on a coal burner for a power plant. Coal dust was an issue so silicone was used on the door and vent holes.
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What kind of luck have you had with the DLI reboots? We've got 30 of them deployed, all running the latest firmware.

About 1/4 of them work, and are being replaced with products from Synaccess as budget allows.

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to add, all of our installations with failed DLI's are in climate controlled and power conditioned racks
 
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Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:18 pm

Here's one I did a few years back, we changed out 8m LMR spooled on the mast for some 4metre ones the next day. Identical setup at the far end. RB600 with 2xR52 running NStreme2 over 40Mhz channels with 80mbit full duplex, it was only just over 1 kilometer so TX power is as low as we could set it!

It could probably go faster, but seemed to be CPU limited as they were pegged at 100% during testing.
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Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:06 pm

Galvanised frame against the wall.
The hole through the wall is for 220V AC that's supplied from UPS in server room.
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IP65 cabinet
Connector makes it easy to shut down power when maintenance is required.
28V / 12V industrial PSU
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2 x R5H
Bottom fan draws air through a filter
Top fans expel air into cavity behind the box
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Cabinet is earthed to the antenna mounts and to an earth rod.
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Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:52 am

We install RB very close to the antenna.
UPS for 230 sometimes crash, then we use the AD-55 or AD-155 - http://tandem.ck.ua/ups_mt-eng.php.
Monitoring food http://tandem.ck.ua/ups_mtm-eng.php.
UPS-MT-monitor can also control the power, if RB411 (433) does not want to respond (hangs).
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Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:59 pm

We install RB very close to the antenna.
UPS for 230 sometimes crash, then we use the AD-55 or AD-155 - http://tandem.ck.ua/ups_mt-eng.php.
Monitoring food http://tandem.ck.ua/ups_mtm-eng.php.
UPS-MT-monitor can also control the power, if RB411 (433) does not want to respond (hangs).
Nice and neat install!

Where did you find those UPS-MT-monitor?
 
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Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:35 pm

We install RB very close to the antenna.
UPS for 230 sometimes crash, then we use the AD-55 or AD-155 - http://tandem.ck.ua/ups_mt-eng.php.
Monitoring food http://tandem.ck.ua/ups_mtm-eng.php.
UPS-MT-monitor can also control the power, if RB411 (433) does not want to respond (hangs).
Nice and neat install!

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Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:19 am

eben,

who makes that enclosure? where did you buy?
 
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Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:33 am

eben,

who makes that enclosure? where did you buy?
We have outsourced cabinet manufacture to a company in Zimbabwe called "Electro Panels".
 
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The enclosure looks similar to one sold by many including streakwave (see streakwave enclosure on their website).
 
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For one of our backhauls..

433ah x2
R52n x2
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What kind of luck have you had with the DLI reboots? We've got 30 of them deployed, all running the latest firmware.

About 1/4 of them work, and are being replaced with products from Synaccess as budget allows.

*edit*
to add, all of our installations with failed DLI's are in climate controlled and power conditioned racks
Only problem we have ever had with these is 1 fan went bad and was buzzing very loud. They sent us a new one (fan) and took me 5 min to change out.
 
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What kind of luck have you had with the DLI reboots? We've got 30 of them deployed, all running the latest firmware.

About 1/4 of them work, and are being replaced with products from Synaccess as budget allows.

*edit*
to add, all of our installations with failed DLI's are in climate controlled and power conditioned racks
Only problem we have ever had with these is 1 fan went bad and was buzzing very loud. They sent us a new one (fan) and took me 5 min to change out.
Interesting. Glad they're working for you. We had nothing but problems, and their customer service was not helpful to us at all.
 
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Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:45 pm

We have been posting some install photos on our page at http://www.mtin.net/blog. Been trying to post one a day
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Nice, many great installations!! Good job!

I'll submit soon some of our installations...
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Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:45 pm

I'm worried about the weld penetration on this bracket.

Did you get this bracket x-rayed before mounting it?
Did the fabricator use plug welds from the back for added strength?
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I would be more worried about the grade 5 bolts used on there then the welds. I mean the welds do not look very good to me either, and they should of built them up more. But the welder was thinking what I was, Its a small tower anyways. Good to see they sealed the top to stop water from going behind the bracket and freezing, well.. I think that was in NewZeland? probably doesnt freeze there anyways :-)

I think you should replace the bolts, the sheer strength on the grade 5 bolts is pretty low, and even witht he vibration from the lines, they will probably wear and break sooner then you expect. Just hope you catch it... Literally.... before it falls.

I was thinking of setting up a 10 meter tower in my back yard, do you think the neighbors would mind? :-)
 
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Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:07 pm

I was thinking of setting up a 10 meter tower in my back yard, do you think the neighbors would mind? :-)
How about this 24m from yesteryear?
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Ok, this has to be one of two things:

1. A microwave "corner turner" (get it, grid points 90 degrees to the panel).
2. A cheapo ISP that wont buy weatherproof enclosures. Its one way to get rid of those antiquated Tranzeos. MikroTik baby!
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Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:34 pm

cramerit

You plug those two r52n each one on a piece that looks like a 90 degree splitter. Is that true or that is not only a splitter, but a cavity filter?? Can I use a single polarity antenna with both r52n radio chains using a 5ghz splitter??

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The blobs are trees!
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Waaaaho! Its cold there!!!
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Where is this?
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Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:32 pm

Dbii boards are very sensitive to earthing issues.

This is the F20 2.4GHz unit.

Here you can see the Dbii board is earthed to the RB411, which is in turn earthed to the radio antenna.
The radio antenna is then earthed to a copper water pipe via an earth strap.
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Here's Poynting's 23dBi 5GHz integrated enclosure.
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Waaaaho! Its cold there!!!
maybe not very cold, but humid :)
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RB411, RB52, Poynting 23dBi panel.
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We need to go back before the rains to run the earth wire from the bracket to an earth rod.
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Hi Eben,

Are those Gewiss boxes you use ?
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Hi Eben,

Are those Gewiss boxes you use ?
Yes they are.
 
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Dbii boards are very sensitive to earthing issues.

This is the F20 2.4GHz unit.

Here you can see the Dbii board is earthed to the RB411, which is in turn earthed to the radio antenna.
The radio antenna is then earthed to a copper water pipe via an earth strap.
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Eben, I just wanted to clarify. Do you mean the the F20 gives issues when grounded? Or that it requires more grounding?
 
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:00 am

Eben, I just wanted to clarify. Do you mean the the F20 gives issues when grounded? Or that it requires more grounding?
No! The F20 does not give issues when grounded.

However, they do need to be grounded, which is why when you guys ship them, there's an earth cable as part of the package. I've not used one that's not been grounded properly, but I suspect that performance will decrease if it's not grounded properly.
 
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We have been posting some install photos on our page at http://www.mtin.net/blog. Been trying to post one a day
a nice blog you have!
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:05 am

Good to hear.

Was having a discussion with my boss as to what you actually meant. He thought you meant that something was going on when you grounded it.

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Dbii boards are very sensitive to earthing issues.

This is the F20 2.4GHz unit.

Here you can see the Dbii board is earthed to the RB411, which is in turn earthed to the radio antenna.
The radio antenna is then earthed to a copper water pipe via an earth strap.
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I've been looking for something similar for a long time... where do you get the enclosure and attachment which affixes to the grids mounting arm?

To make sure I'm seeing correctly, thats a 24dbi 2.4 correct... (was thinking it's a 19)

would TRULY appreciate it, as Im getting tired of using bulky enclosures and having to field crimp lmr to fit the install. :D


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I've been looking for something similar for a long time... where do you get the enclosure and attachment which affixes to the grids mounting arm?
Gewiss enclosures can be purchased in most countries.
Here's a UK company that sells the product.
http://www.csedistributors.com/acatalog/gewiss.html

As for the mounting to the antenna. That's something that I designed and I get laser cut. I'm sure if you take a piece of metal and play, you'll come up with something that you can get made.
To make sure I'm seeing correctly, thats a 24dbi 2.4 correct... (was thinking it's a 19)
It's a 24 on a nice 50mm galv pole with 3mm wall thickness.
 
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For one of our backhauls..

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Can you please tell my where to buy those polyphasers?

How about performance?

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Our installation in Budapest. Nstreme dual, 2*SR5, rb333, 90cm dual polarized antenna, 1,5 km p-p link, tx power: 0 dbm (!), 71 mbps full duplex.
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Don't you get bad behaviours of the UPS batteries in an external enclosure?
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We have put several small UPSes in little enclosures. No problem with them. All our UPSes are on 2 year replacement cycles though.
 
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one of my Project. 5Ghz on a old Oeltower, 27m high. It stay in the middel of a small City as a museum.
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24 Volt "Mean Well Powersupply" with Accu, on the Towerground.
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Cases with RB/433AH, a 23dB 5Ghz Antenna to Backbone.
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Hello all


I have a couple of questions because i really want to use mikrotik to make point to point and point to multipoint links.

1.- How long the coaxial cable can be?
2.- What is the distance aprox. that you have a point to point link or point to multipoint

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1. Not more than 2m. Longer cable means loss of signal.
2. Depends on the antenna and wireless card, and also the conditions (visibility, interference, trees, water). Can be up to 200Km if conditions are perfect, and points are on mountains or big towers.
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LMR400- cable
loss 2.4Ghz 0.50db/meter
loss 5.8Ghz 0.73db/meter

Im using 4 meter cable without any problems.
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Kameeltjie...

Have you tried LMR600?
 
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Kameeltjie...

Have you tried LMR600?
No sorry scoop only have lmr 195 and lmr 400. Lmr400 is much better option than lmr 195
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RF Designs in Cape Town sell LMR600, as well as the correct N Type connectors. They can also make up the cabels if you don't have a crimping tool.
 
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The first post looks good, but i'd be much happier if there were two or three bricks on top of the legs as well as under them.

Where i live we get really strong winds in Feb + March.

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Which one would you use ???
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Rb493AH with custom aclyric box

- 3 ADSL Connection
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Supply for :
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Here's a little project that I'm working on at the moment. It's still on the bench being tested, but will soon be on a tower.

I started with a galvanised plate to mount the equipment on and drilled holes and set up mounts for the RB600 / 800 and the switch.
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I then cut holes for the fuse boxes, mounted the fuse boxes and mounted some PoE injectors with some cable management strips.
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You can see an aluminium heat sink in the top right hand corner. Some PVRs will be mounted there.
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Here's the back of the panel with most of the wiring done.
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Power is from 2 x 12V 70A batteries that are specifically designed for this type of work. They are charged by a Meanwell PSU. Power is supplied to a series of MCBs that will be located in close proximity to the batteries.
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The MCB panel is wired as follows:

Left MCB - Main switch, feeds 2nd MCB and stepdown transformer.
2nd MCB - 24V up the tower to the routerboard panel.
Stepdown transformer converts 24V to 13.8V and feeds 3rd MCB and fuse block.
3rd MCB - 13.8V feed up the tower to the routerboard panel.
Fuse block - Cabinet fans, GSM Commander and alarm.
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Here are the RB600 and the RB450 mounted on the panel.
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Here are the PVRs that provide 12V and 9V.
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Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:26 am

ether1 on the RB600 goes to the TPLink switch
ether3 on the RB600 goes to the RB450

ether2 - ether5 on the RB450 go to PoE injectors 10 - 13. This will allow me to set up UBNT Nanobridges or Rockets as dumb bridges and have router to router connections without any traffic collissions normally associated with switches.

The bottom 9 PoE injectors are all connected to the TPLink switch and will eventually be connected to RB711A boards that will be connected to sectoral antennas. These boards ether1 ports will all be in the same /28 subnet as ether3 on the RB600. Or, I could use UBNT rockets with their sectoral antennas to build a hybrid access point down the line.

As things stand, the RB600 will have 1 x R52H, 2 x R5H and 2 x F50Pro and will do all the AP work, but there's room for expansion ;-)

And yes, those are 2 x 512MB CF cards on the RB600.
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Board and batteries in and working.

I need to get some insulating material onto the door to stop any potential battery short circuits.
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The Dish would Fly.

hoaohahoahoahohoaohaohahoahoahoa xDD

yes! Here some High voltage lines were broken last year because of wind.. : P
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Here's Poynting's 23dBi 5GHz integrated enclosure.
Only one clamp to the wall ? Take care when you get a lot of wind.
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Here's Poynting's 23dBi 5GHz integrated enclosure.
Only one clamp to the wall ? Take care when you get a lot of wind.
The bracket is made from 5mm steel that's galvanised.
The pole is 50mm with a 2mm wall thickness. Again galvanised.

Now for the magic.

The wall plugs are Fischer "UX". They are the so called "Four Way Plugs" that expand in many directions and stick like proverbial s**t to a blanket.

That setup recently survived a storm with 130km/h winds.
 
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Here's Poynting's 23dBi 5GHz integrated enclosure.
Only one clamp to the wall ? Take care when you get a lot of wind.
The bracket is made from 5mm steel that's galvanised.
The pole is 50mm with a 2mm wall thickness. Again galvanised.

Now for the magic.

The wall plugs are Fischer "UX". They are the so called "Four Way Plugs" that expand in many directions and stick like proverbial s**t to a blanket.

That setup recently survived a storm with 130km/h winds.
Yeah! It sounds good. Very good clamp and very good plugs.

In this case it's should be ok, but IMHO it's better to have two clamps (of poorer quality if you want) because with only one clamp the mast will move a bit with some wind (30-50km/h) and it could create movement to the pieces (screws, nuts, ...) and this resistance could be weaken with some time. My suggestion it's always two clamps and better when more distance separates the clamps on the mast because the fixation will be better.
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Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:26 pm

This work has 6 sectors Ubiquiti XM5 with 17dBi antennas-90 º.
These AP are in bridge mode and connected to a RB-493AH server does PPPoE, QoS.
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In the box there are 6 feeds 24v to the AP, and two 15v for 2 NanoStation M5 that make PtP. RB-493AH 24V.

Are the antennas too close together? I've thought up another mast and separate at least 1 meter. do you think?

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Are the antennas too close together? I've thought up another mast and separate at least 1 meter. do you think?
Currently I have no proof that separating the antennas even more would have any benefit.

If it works - keep them like they are. Check signal and quality levels in high traffic times.
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Are the antennas too close together? I've thought up another mast and separate at least 1 meter. do you think?
Currently I have no proof that separating the antennas even more would have any benefit.

If it works - keep them like they are. Check signal and quality levels in high traffic times.
Thank you, the signal is good but for now the network is in test, there are
not high traffic for the moment. I will see the production behavior in 3 month.

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My installation details later on ...
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4. Hotspot
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Here we have a little DIN rail.

The circuit breaker on the left is the "main switch".
From there AC power is supplied to 2 circuit breakers.
The breaker on the left controls the blue and white Meanwell DIN rail mount power supply. That power supply in turn powers the Planet ATA next to it. The Planet ATA is the cheapest device with an IP address that I've been able to find. It is powered "in the wild" so it will go off if there is a power failure and then Dude will notify me.
The breaker on the right controls the timer, which turns power on or off to the large power supply. The batteries connect to that power supply. As do the attached devices.
Each attached device is then powered on or off via a circuit breaker. Two breakers are for the RB750 and the RB250GS. One is for an external device and the other two are for future use.
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This is what it looks like in a cabinet with a custom built battery tray and 3 x 105AH batteries.

Lastly, here is the "external device" mentioned above. RB435G, RB750, 4 x POE injectors for appliances.
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Where did you get the standoffs that are holding up the RB435G ??
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Where did you get the standoffs that are holding up the RB435G ??
http://www.miro.co.za/detail.aspx?pid=2 ... =Utilities

Your local RS Components should also have them.
 
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Leased line customer endpoint.
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hello, this is my installation.. 8km link
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unfortunatelly dont have pictures of the other side..
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Please note that roof can obstruct fresnel zone leaving received power and quality lower than what otherwise would be possible.
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HotSpot in about 1.5km away from my Base Station
even Mikrotik show 5km :lol:
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StationBox 18DBi on RB711-5Hn-MMCX + TPlink 12DBi on a RB711UA-2Hnd
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Why you are Using a lot of 1port poe?? Use POE panel.
 
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Please midnightman
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I think he is refering to use something like this (http://www.i4wifi.eu/8-port-pasiv-poe-i ... d2063.html) instead of 8 separated POE Injectors
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One of our APs
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AP in suburb area. 1xJRC24 3x120 degree sector:

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I dont like this indoor UTP....
 
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POE PANEL
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I dont like this indoor UTP....
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POE PANEL
this panel uses shielded ports? or plastic? I want to buy one but I didn't find a description.
 
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Some of our installations

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One of our APs
What are the relays for in this image?

http://forum.mikrotik.com/download/file.php?id=8553

How do you control them?
 
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What are the relays for in this image?
http://forum.mikrotik.com/download/file.php?id=8553
How do you control them?
Under the batteries, you can se a little grey box. That's a GSM pager. One of the relays is connected to Output, I can restart the whole site with one call. The other relay is connected to Input of the pager. If there is input power outage at the site, it sends an SMS to our phones.
 
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:03 pm

Thanks Sytex

I use this http://gsmcommander.co.za/ or this http://www.accentronix.co.za/ at my high sites and remote sites.

The GSM Commander is brilliant. It has Windows based programming software and has daughter boards. You can use it to switch AC or DC. I use them to monitor power, to monitor doors and to shut down and restart computers and routers as needed.

The Cellswitch is not as powerful. For a start, it doesn't know whether the power is on or not. You have to use one of the inputs to monitor an output on the power supply. The on board relay is also much smaller than the GSM Commander (2A vs 8A) but it's a good idea to run all power through a separate relay in any case.

The saving grace of the cellswitch is the brilliant web based programming interface. This means that a unit can be reprogrammed on site. The GSM Commander has a USB port and needs to be connected to a computer to accept changes to the instructions.

The GSM Commander has a smaller brother called the SMS Commander. Two inputs and one output only. We use a lot of them at my hotspots.

Even though the capital costs for these things may seem high. Spending six hours in low range 4x4 to get to some sites, cycling the power switch by than and then six hours back again costs a lot more in time, vehicle running costs and potential damage to the vehicle than even the most expensive GSM Commander.

Here's a panel that I'm building at the moment that has a Cellswitch 100. The Cellswitch's cellular transceiver also isn't great. I'm having to use an 11dBi gain yagi antenna to get a decent signal - in my workshop, where a GSM Commander get a strong signal with a 0 dBi gain dipole.
IMG_3402.JPG
Here's a hotspot controller built by my young assistant showing an SMS Commander.
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What the model of you parabolic antenna?
it look very nice and i believe the performance should very great...

thanks.
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Theoretically ... http://en.jirous.com/anteny-5ghz/jrc-29ex
What the model of you parabolic antenna?
it look very nice and i believe the performance should very great...

thanks.
 
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Theoretically ... http://en.jirous.com/anteny-5ghz/jrc-29ex
What the model of you parabolic antenna?
it look very nice and i believe the performance should very great...

thanks.
what about the actual performance?
 
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Theoretically ... http://en.jirous.com/anteny-5ghz/jrc-29ex
What the model of you parabolic antenna?
it look very nice and i believe the performance should very great...
thanks.
what about the actual performance?
I think, on picture is 24dB version http://en.jirous.com/antenna-5ghz/jrc-24-extrem
29dB version have larger bracket.

Performance is good, you can use box for routerboard http://en.jirous.com/Accessories-complements/jr-200
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SXT linking to another tower about 400m away.
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I think, on picture is 24dB version http://en.jirous.com/antenna-5ghz/jrc-24-extrem
29dB version have larger bracket.

Performance is good, you can use box for routerboard http://en.jirous.com/Accessories-complements/jr-200
You are right, this is the 24dBi version. We use lot of them on backbone links. There aren't any problems with them since they are mounted on towers.
 
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:14 pm

what about the actual performance?
JRC-24-EXTREME, RB411AH, R5hN, Single Chain setup, 40Mhz, nv2, net. 98Mbps (Measured with two notebooks, with iperf).
 
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JRC-24-EXTREME, RB411AH, R5hN, Single Chain setup, 40Mhz, nv2, net. 98Mbps (Measured with two notebooks, with iperf).

What's the link distance?
 
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what about the actual performance?
JRC-24-EXTREME, RB411AH, R5hN, Single Chain setup, 40Mhz, nv2, net. 98Mbps (Measured with two notebooks, with iperf).
How do you set up a single chain connection? You just disable the second chain? What about the secondary antenna connector on minipci?

Köszi a választ (Thanks for reply)
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:31 pm

The distance is 11Km.
Signal level: -55/-60
CCQ:100/95
Data Rates:150/150

And the one chain setup:
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I made a mistake upper, the cards are not r5hn, they are r52hn. There are two MMCX connectors on the card, simply we plugged in only one pigtail cable, and leaved the other empty.

Nagyon szívesen! (You are welcome)
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Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:16 pm

For one of our backhauls..

433ah x2
R52n x2
Transtectors
Polyphasers
Dual N.jpg
What is device where pigtails are connected? looks like splitter. Are you using 1 antena for 2 cards with different freq?
 
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Electricity supply box
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From left to right

Top Row
Light Switch
Vivotech 8134 Dome Camera - http://www.vivotek.com/products/model.p ... era=fd8134
Bulkhead Light
On the right are 2x15A wall sockets - the type used in South Africa.

2nd Row Down
Generator controller - inhouse design
Primary Surge Arrestor
Main Switch
Circuit Breaker - Meanwell Charger
Circuit Breaker - Lights
Circuit Breaker - Plugs
Circuit Breaker - SMS Controller
Circuit Breaker - Thermostats
RB450G

3rd Row - Top
Meanwell 24V 360W charger
Meanwell 24V DC - DC Convertor
RB450
3 x Spare 24 Circuit Breakers
24V Circuit Breaker RB450
24V Circuit Breaker RB450G
24V Circuit Breaker Coils on the relays
24V Circuit Breaker Relay on the left
DIN Rail Mount 16A relay switches "outside" 24V on or off
DIN Rail Mount 16A relay switches "outside" 12V on or off

On the right, there are two thermostats. One switches the fan on when it's hot. The other one switches the heater on when it's cold.

3rd Row - Bottom

Circuit Breaker - Main 27 - 30V feed coming in from the batteries
Circuit Breaker - Main 12V feed coming from the DC - DC convertor
Circuit Breaker - Main 24V feed coming from the DC - DC convertor
Circuit Breaker - 24V switches the DC - DC convertor for the camera
DC - DC convertor that provides clean 12V for the camera
Power supply for SMS Controller
SMS Controller - Cellswitch 100 - http://www.accentronix.co.za/Products.html

Ground Level

DIN Rail termination block for municipal electric feed.
2 x 12V Batteries
There's another DC-DC convertor (24 - 13.8V) partially hidden behind the batteries. It provides "12V" power to the "outside" equipment.
12V battery provides backup power to the SMS unit
Fan to air airflow.

This lot provides power to:

4 x RB411AH
3 x RB433AH
1 x RB493G
1 x RB600A
1 x RB SXT
1 x TPLink 10/100 switch (13.8V is run through a LM7809 for clean 9V)
2 x UBNT Nanobridge 5
2 x UBNT Rocket 5
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:D :D :D
@Bongo: This is where we buy the boxes: http://www.genrod.com.ar/productos.htm

I can't send you messanges (don't know why) but thanks for the karma!

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This is one of our installations...
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Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:14 am

The distance is 11Km.
Signal level: -55/-60
CCQ:100/95
Data Rates:150/150

And the one chain setup:
1chain.png
I made a mistake upper, the cards are not r5hn, they are r52hn. There are two MMCX connectors on the card, simply we plugged in only one pigtail cable, and leaved the other empty.

Nagyon szívesen! (You are welcome)

How can you get such a good signal over that distance? Or do you don't care about the allowed TX Power?
 
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24KM link with RB600 and RB450

Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:42 am

My RB600 with 4 5Ghz Antenna on top of the mountain here in the south of Namibia. it links to Skorpion Zinc mine about 24 kilometers away to provide coverage to the town. The other end is connected to a 10 Mb ADSL line with
Ubiquiti's SR-71 doing the back haul, and Mikrotiks doung the routing, hotspot etc.
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One of our APs
can you please tell me the manufacturer of those Small size antennas? and they performances
 
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One of our APs
can you please tell me the manufacturer of those Small size antennas? and they performances
Which one?
 
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One of our APs
can you please tell me the manufacturer of those Small size antennas? and they performances
Which one?
The sector antenna
 
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Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:06 pm

Hi,
i want to use 2 100Ah battery (@12v) with poe patch panel and 8 routerboard 411ah.
The MeanWell AD-155 is good?
Or what ?
how can I monitor the system?

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Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:58 pm

Hi,
The MeanWell AD-155 is good?
No.

Use Meanwell PB-360N-12

Use the voltreport on the MikroTik wiki to monitor the power.
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Monitor_i ... B333/433AH
 
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Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:47 pm

Hi,
The MeanWell AD-155 is good?
No.

Use Meanwell PB-360N-12

Use the voltreport on the MikroTik wiki to monitor the power.
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Monitor_i ... B333/433AH
Ok, but PB-360N-12 for charging battery... and how to give power to the AC when I Mikrotik?

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Sorry for drawing raw... :D

Reagards
 
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How were you planning on providing AC?

AD-155 does not provide AC.
 
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How were you planning on providing AC?

AD-155 does not provide AC.
AC Input -> DC 12V Output + Battery charger
When AC input goes down :
DC Input (From battery) -> DC Output

AD-155 have a AC input with ups function.

I want use AC power and charge battery, when the AC go down i want to switch on DC from battery and managing alert.

Sorry for my bad english.

Regards.
 
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How were you planning on providing AC?

AD-155 does not provide AC.
AC Input -> DC 12V Output + Battery charger
When AC input goes down :
DC Input (From battery) -> DC Output

AD-155 have a AC input with ups function.

I want use AC power and charge battery, when the AC go down i want to switch on DC from battery and managing alert.

Sorry for my bad english.

Regards.
Power the equipment directly from the battery.

Get a SIP ATA (probably the cheapest device with an IP address).
Connect that device to one of the ethernet ports on your network (or ether3 or ether3 on the RB43x). Power it straight from AC power.

Use Dude or Nagios or OpenNMS to monitor your network.

As soon as the AC goes down, the ATA will be "dead", the network management system will pick it up and notify you.

Here is a picture of a power box at one of our sites. You can see the ATA.
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I do not like this solution !
 
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Hi,
i want to use 2 100Ah battery (@12v) with poe patch panel and 8 routerboard 411ah.
The MeanWell AD-155 is good?
Or what ?
AD155 provides a small charging current.
Current charge for your problems is not enough! ( 2 100Ah battery!!!)
Here it is better to PSC-60 / PSC-100, SCP-35 / SCP-50 / SCP-75.
Monitoring the battery is described here: http://tandem.ck.ua/ups_mtm-eng.php.
Some examples of solutions can be found here: http://tandem.ck.ua/hard_apps.php

Lastly.
Meanvell equipment has proved to be very good.
I have installed about 100 units.
Employing approximately 5 years.
Dead not defective out of stock.
 
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Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:42 am

Two batteries with 100Ah connected in parallel (you said 12v) makes a total capacity of 200Ah. That is a lot and needs quite serious charging solution. By the rule of 1/10, it'd be like 20A at least. I suggest to go for higher voltage setups. What you need 12v for anyway?
 
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Two batteries with 100Ah connected in parallel (you said 12v) makes a total capacity of 200Ah. That is a lot and needs quite serious charging solution. By the rule of 1/10, it'd be like 20A at least. I suggest to go for higher voltage setups. What you need 12v for anyway?
I need a lot of autonomy @12V (Minimum 5/7 days).

On this location I have
- 3 MK rb411ah
- 5 rocket m5
- 1 MK rb493G
Total consumption i think ~7Ah and 200Ah are also a few.

Regards.
 
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Thanks for sharing these pictures these all are very helpful for me.
 
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Rebuilding of a 9 year old site:
(Click to enlarge the pictures)

BEFORE:
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THE WORK:
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AFTER:
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Don't look the funny bullet! :) The story: We have absolutelly forgotten about a very old 2.4Ghz link when we planed this replacement. So we had to improvise "what we can found in the car"! We will remove it in a couple of days.

BONUS RIDDLE: What can we se on the picture??
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BONUS RIDDLE: What can we se on the picture??
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Tömszelence with sziloplaszt :)
 
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Tömszelence with sziloplaszt :)
Almost....

(Majdnem, tömszelence talált, a több nem, következő tipp?)

For english users: tömszelence= a plastic thing, with this you can bring cables in/out from a metal case waterproof
 
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some of our installations

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One of our APs
i like the guy in the second picture
i think he did somethig wrong :P
 
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i like the guy in the second picture
i think he did somethig wrong :P
Thats me, I had a terrible headache that day.
 
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Change Alvarion from another antena.. x)
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Lego has it's uses... As does old coving.
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Repair of a groove metal knocked down by the wind at 150Km/h (93 mph)
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Hi Lupin,

What kind of power box did you use for midspan?I'm using midspan but when I plug 12 device to midspan with 18V 20A power box,power box is not enough to carry to 12 device..(Each device normally working with 15Watt power.)

Are suggest. some power box for midspan?

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One of my tower station..
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Where do you buyed this boxes/enclosures/ cabinet /racks?
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Hi,

These are designed by me and some companies produced for us.We have 8 lattice tower (50 mt,60...80mt) and they also have same structure.We sell symmetric internet to the five star and luxury hotels .(20/20,40/40,80/80.....)

Also outdoor cabinet's has got fan and temparature control unit.Power box inside included power jenarator connection and button.We have more experince about outdoor wcdma,wimax and gsm systems.. UPS system everytime report to the noc about electical issue with SNMP modul.

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can you please tell me the manufacturer of those Small size antennas? and they performances
Which one?
The sector antenna
Yes The sector antenna
 
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no grounding for the board?
 
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Yes The sector antenna
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Yes The sector antenna
Sorry for the late answer:

***DELETED*** I cannot find the antenna type in our system... need more time to figure out, which antennas we used on the site.
ok thz!
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Yes The sector antenna
Sorry for the late answer:

***DELETED*** I cannot find the antenna type in our system... need more time to figure out, which antennas we used on the site.
Here is the answer for the question:
http://www.wirelesslan.pl/product_info. ... 7-sa120-16
 
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Yes The sector antenna
Sorry for the late answer:

***DELETED*** I cannot find the antenna type in our system... need more time to figure out, which antennas we used on the site.
Here is the answer for the question:
http://www.wirelesslan.pl/product_info. ... 7-sa120-16
thanks dnyl!
can you please tell the manufacturer website?
 
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I really cannot figure out... sorry. It must be Atlas or Wavearena.
 
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I really cannot figure out... sorry. It must be Atlas or Wavearena.
Thanks Bro!
 
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Dbii boards are very sensitive to earthing issues.

This is the F20 2.4GHz unit.

Here you can see the Dbii board is earthed to the RB411, which is in turn earthed to the radio antenna.
The radio antenna is then earthed to a copper water pipe via an earth strap.
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while in tripod tower,whether i use seperate 2.5 mm wire or simple join into tripod tower.
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Photo taken halfway through installation :)

Here's one of an RB600 and a RB433AH in the same box.
RB433AH bolts to the backplate with brass bolts. :D :)
 
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Boba Fett, guards my rb2011 setup with linksys Voip adapter. I have an rb751 as a wireless bridge feeding my entertainment center in my living room.

I cant take pictures of the 30 or so routerboards i administrate at work so this will have to do :p
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One of my tower station..
these are incredibly cool boxes. very neat and what r u using for power management..some kind of UPS or DG power.
At our sites it gets very tough to manage diesel for gensets, so we gotta use batteries and charger panels but have not found a stable solution yet.

i have repeatedly sought it from Mikrotik. inverters/ups's have lot of charge wasteage and other electrical chargers often affect the routerboards.

i would welcome any kind of stable solutions and alert system.
 
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Here is my Mikrotik RIC/522 5.8 GHz installation. Link distance is around 2.5km.
This equipment links my home network to my ham radio D-Star/IRLP/AIS/telemetry/video equipment at my comms site. Much cheaper than maintaining another ADSL connection at the remote site.

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It's been installed since Mid 2010 and has been incredibly reliable, just like having an ethernet cable between the two locations! The mast at home also holds up my TV antenna.

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@Mahnet

It's rack type 3kw online ups and we control it with netagent(http://www.megatec.com.tw/) working very well.It send's everything about power also ups.

Later I'll share our another tower pictures.
 
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This is one of two towers that we setup to connect a remote site to head office
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:59 pm

This is one of two towers that we setup to connect a remote site to head office
Nice!

That solar panel is quite flat. Obviously quite far south (or north).

Where in the world are you?
 
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Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:27 am

Hi Eben

in Citrusdal, Western Cape, South Africa
according to solar provider that indicated a 20 degree facing north

Gys
 
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hi... im...there..up .. up... up

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test
 
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Core: RB750GL
POE's: 1 X 8 Port Toughswitch, 1 X 5 Port Toughswitch (If only Mikrotik had something similiar ;( )
Sectors: 3 X Mikrotik Metals
Backbone's: All running RB911G's
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All for a NPO in Cape Town, South Africa. Site is called Saturn we like planet names ;)
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Core: RB750GL
POE's: 1 X 8 Port Toughswitch, 1 X 5 Port Toughswitch (If only Mikrotik had something similiar ;( )
Sectors: 3 X Mikrotik Metals
Backbone's: All running RB911G's
Extra's: Aircam

All for a NPO in Cape Town, South Africa. Site is called Saturn we like planet names ;)
How did you attach the ToughSwitch Pro to the metal cabinet?
There are no brackets visible.
 
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Core: RB750GL
POE's: 1 X 8 Port Toughswitch, 1 X 5 Port Toughswitch (If only Mikrotik had something similiar ;( )
Sectors: 3 X Mikrotik Metals
Backbone's: All running RB911G's
Extra's: Aircam

All for a NPO in Cape Town, South Africa. Site is called Saturn we like planet names ;)
How did you attach the ToughSwitch Pro to the metal cabinet?
There are no brackets visible.
Very strong double sided tape :)
 
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we have squirrels who would bite off that blue cable every 3rd day
 
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Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:26 am

we have squirrels who would bite off that blue cable every 3rd day
Use armoured cable.
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2 x SXT
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Business customer endpoint
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Base station with 6m pole :)
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Rack cabinet with 24v UPS system.
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Wifi service to the beaches in Catalonia
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Nice work you guys done. This sample of installation will help people who wants to install it in home. This is giving a guide about installation. Good luck!
 
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Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:40 pm

Hi Eben

in Citrusdal, Western Cape, South Africa
according to solar provider that indicated a 20 degree facing north

Gys
Hi Spider24 and Eben,
sorry for bumping this old topic - since the forum doesn't allow private messages I need to do it this way and hope you will read it :-)
Just something completely off-topic:
I'm in Somerset West (well, Cape Town, but this isn't that far away) and Citrusdal in November (just holidays) - and I'd love to drop in for a visit and see your installations and maybe have a little 19inch-chat about RB and PtP deployments...

Cheers,
-Chris (and sorry again for bothering the rest of the forum).
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Hi Spider24 and Eben,
I'm in Somerset West (well, Cape Town, but this isn't that far away) and Citrusdal in November (just holidays) - and I'd love to drop in for a visit and see your installations and maybe have a little 19inch-chat about RB and PtP deployments...

Cheers,
-Chris (and sorry again for bothering the rest of the forum).
Hi Chris

Pop over to our website http://cape-connect.com and use the contact us page to get in touch.

I'll take you on the grand tour, starting in Cape Town.
 
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Hi Chris

Pop over to our website http://cape-connect.com and use the contact us page to get in touch.

I'll take you on the grand tour, starting in Cape Town.
Wow, that was quick.
Thanks, I just sent you an email.
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This is my 2x PPPOE servers and 1x PCC bonder

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My two installs, can someone give me some instructions on how to make off my own pigtails with coaxial cable?
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Samples...
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I want to ask my tricky question to you professionals ;)

Am I able to connect 2 routerboards in two neighboring valleys or do they need immediate "sight contact"?

As I figured by myself: I want to connect two houses with an airline of approx 4 Kilometers by MicroTik WiFi, but some friend of mine said, that this is only possible as you can see the receiver (see the house for instance) is this right?

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You are asking in wrong thread. But the answer is no.
 
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My two installs, can someone give me some instructions on how to make off my own pigtails with coaxial cable?

Feed on the second picture is not installed properly. Polarisation mark must be upwards while antenna grid is in horizontal (for vertical polarisation). If you want horizontal polarisation you must turn complete antenna with grid and feed 90 degrees clockwise or counterclokwise.
 
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Samples...
No shielded cables and connectors into ubnt adapters? These looks like indoor cables...
 
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Questionable - Tiny Internet Protocol Sorter, aka Q-Tips
So here is a project I was working on at 3 am. WTF!!! I didn't have a case, so I made one, for a temporary setup for this RB112. I am proud to have found a new life for the RB112, even for the short time that it will be in the Q-Tips Box.

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but how to search the one you want? looking forward to solve this
 
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This is our internet cafe's rack - as you see, we live in WIRE world :D


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and our modem+AP :D
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This is my home network cabinet: D

From left Modem Provider (Fastweb), RB951G and RB260GS.

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This is my home network cabinet: D

From left Modem Provider (Fastweb), RB951G and RB260GS.

Values: 95 mbps Download 10 mbps Upload

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What was the PSU voltage and ampere you used for POE, and why u used POE ??
 
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This is my home network cabinet: D

From left Modem Provider (Fastweb), RB951G and RB260GS.

Values: 95 mbps Download 10 mbps Upload

Opinions? : D

What was the PSU voltage and ampere you used for POE, and why u used POE ??
Poe for 2 RB260GS , i do not have the problem of the power supplies in the rooms :D
 
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Very Nice Installation Images and information which gives me a idea....
 
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Not wireless but hey, it's Mikrotik! :-)

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So many unused (and payed) sfp ports. Nice investment, someone sure did make some money with you/him/it.
 
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*Work in progress*

And zyxel switches are pretty cheap.
 
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a little difficult.
 
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Omnitik U5HND with POE OUT, Soldered inside omnitik
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Poe for 2 RB260GS , i do not have the problem of the power supplies in the rooms :D
Great setup, good idea. I want to do the same as you have done here.
 
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Quite happy with the installation, turned out well.
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So many unused (and payed) sfp ports. Nice investment, someone sure did make some money with you/him/it.
since you mentioned that...
sfp ports are useful for home network?
could you please give me an example? I'm amateur in this area of networking
 
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You didn't get the irony...
 
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You didn't get the irony...
of course I didn't. I'm not a profissional in this area, I practise network only as a hobby.
So, sfp is useless for home network? or there are homes that need that, which ones?
 
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You didn't get the irony...
of course I didn't. I'm not a profissional in this area, I practise network only as a hobby.
So, sfp is useless for home network? or there are homes that need that, which ones?
I'm a home / hobby user too, but i need the SFP Port to connect my house and the neighbor's house.
Issue in germany is that according to VDE law's (electircal law's) only potential-free connections between buildings allowed, except the buildings have an common grounding bar. This make seens in risk of ligthing stroke and equalizing current.

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You didn't get the irony...
of course I didn't. I'm not a profissional in this area, I practise network only as a hobby.
So, sfp is useless for home network? or there are homes that need that, which ones?
Most of the time is useless for home use and to expensive and complicated.
 
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You didn't get the irony...
of course I didn't. I'm not a profissional in this area, I practise network only as a hobby.
So, sfp is useless for home network? or there are homes that need that, which ones?
I'm a home / hobby user too, but i need the SFP Port to connect my house and the neighbor's house.
Issue in germany is that according to VDE law's (electircal law's) only potential-free connections between buildings allowed, except the buildings have an common grounding bar. This make seens in risk of ligthing stroke and equalizing current.

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I wonder how the electricity power is distributed to the houses if there couldn't be any conductive wiring in between....
 
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Galvanic separation is the answer. Seems that each building needs it's own transformer.
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I wonder how the electricity power is distributed to the houses if there couldn't be any conductive wiring in between....
Problem is the grounding earth of each building which would be connected together if LAN cable (CAT) is used.

http://www.iebmedia.com/index.php?id=80 ... g3k1e6adg4

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This is my home network cabinet: D

From left Modem Provider (Fastweb), RB951G and RB260GS.

Values: 95 mbps Download 10 mbps Upload

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very good, imo. manageable.
but ensure that you use fans with ball-bearings in, cuz they fail otherwise too fast. (and consider wide/weak dust-filters outside it, perhaps)
as for future - you need case/door with solid/strong steel and good locks, perhaps(mechanical picked or ruined with seconds, even Abloy and japanses, so perhaps good idea to use RFID locks or combination of).
 
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Re: Sample Installations - Sticky Please

Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:25 am

I installed this system on my roof and ROS inside the PC.

2 x Netmetal 5
1 x UBNT AM5G19-120 sector anthena
1 x UBNT AM5G20-90 sector anthena
2 x DSL modem
1 x 24 port gigabit switch
1 x poe injector
1 x HP ML110 server

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Re: Sample Installations - Sticky Please

Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:21 pm

Two recent installations completed
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Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:22 pm

1. 850Gx2
2. CRS109-8G-1S-2HnD
3. RouterBOARD 962UiGS-5HacT2HnT
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Re: Sample Installations - Sticky Please

Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:42 am

Today we went to go repair some Mikrotiks that died after trying to upgrade them to v6.37.3

This what our tower looked like on top of a 4,000 foot tall mountain here in North Idaho
(FYI - at this same tower a few winters ago - we have seen 10 foot deep snow -and- 3 foot long sideways icicles -and- impossible to climb the ladder in the middle because everything is packed with hard-wind-blown ice/snow totally through our 14 foot wide tower)
Have you ever had a 20 lb chunk of ice fall 100 feet and hit you on your head ?
Have you ever seen what 100 lb chunk of ice can do when it hits everything on the tower as it falls 120 feet to the bottom? It will bend and break steal beams and destroy the tower-to-building ice-bridge and all rip apart all cabling.
Not shown in this picture - we have two ice-bridges between the tower and the building. We had to add a second ice bridge above the original ice bridge. The upper ice-bridge also has sheet metal folded and welded in an upside-down V to help break apart and deflect huge chunks of falling ice. The original single ice-bridge was destroyed 3 times prior to adding the 2nd ice-bridge.
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