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MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:29 pm
by Ibersystems
Hello to all,

I'll go to the MUM and I'll make a training before.

I want to inform people that will do the training and go to the MUM that is cheaper to make the reservation of the hotel directly in the website hotel.

Special price for the MUM assistants is 375 PLN, but as you can see, it's cheaper if you make it in the website (310PLN tax and breakfast included):

This is my receipt:

Mercure Wroclaw Panorama

Tel : (+48)71/3232700 | pl. Dominikanski 1 - 50-159 WROCLAW - Access map
Room 1

Dates of stay :  from 24/02/2010 to 03/03/2010 ,  i.e. 7 night(s)

Number of persons :  1 adult

2169.75 PLN
Standard Room with 2 single beds
Air-conditioned, comfortable, well-furnished room with 2 single beds, internet access, working desk, mini bar, telephone & pay TV. Shower and hairdryer in a bathroom.
2 nights getaway

Rate sales conditions

Details per night

Service 	Dates concerned 	Rate 	Room occupants 	Total
Room 	24/02/2010 > 25/02/2010
	311.05 PLN
	1 adult 	2169.75 PLN
  	25/02/2010 > 26/02/2010
	311.05 PLN
	  	 
  	26/02/2010 > 27/02/2010
	273.66 PLN
	  	 
  	27/02/2010 > 28/02/2010
	236.28 PLN
	  	 
  	28/02/2010 > 01/03/2010
	236.28 PLN
	  	 
  	01/03/2010 > 02/03/2010
	329.74 PLN
	  	 
  	02/03/2010 > 03/03/2010
	329.74 PLN
	  	 
Breakfast(s) 	24/02/2010 > 25/02/2010 	Included 	1 adult 	Included
  	25/02/2010 > 26/02/2010 	Included 	  	 
  	26/02/2010 > 27/02/2010 	Included 	  	 
  	27/02/2010 > 28/02/2010 	Included 	  	 
  	28/02/2010 > 01/03/2010 	Included 	  	 
  	01/03/2010 > 02/03/2010 	Included 	  	 
  	02/03/2010 > 03/03/2010 	Included 	  	 

    * Mask details

Reservation total 	2169.75 PLN
Total excluding taxes	2027.80 PLN
Taxes Lodging tax :
National taxes on accommodation, by night, by room 7.0% (from 1/1/2009)

	141.95 PLN
Prepaid amount	2169.75 PLN
I saved about 110 € in total : P!
ALSO IF YOU PAY ONLY 1 NIGHT, IT'S CHEAPER THAN THE "SPECIAL" PRICE, the difference is to pay the day you arrive to the hotel or to pay now. If you pay now you save a lot of money but if finally you can't go to the MUM, you'll lose this paid money.


I hope this help all of you.

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:02 pm
by normis
thanks, I stickied this topic, and changed the MUM page description also.

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:54 am
by Chupaka
huh, AFAIR in Prague, special price was ~20% lower that usual one. as for Poland, the price is really 'special' :D

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:07 am
by Chupaka
freeload is over, '2 nights getaway' was closed, so 'special price' of 365 PLN/night is the lowest again =(

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:42 pm
by xins
I am sure you can find something cheaper in poland :) if i get any offer i will post it here

for example in Rzeszów cheapest "hotel";p cost about 30zł without meals and there is plenty places were you can eat for less then 40 zł for dinner

You just have to know where to look for it:)

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:35 am
by Muqatil
From 24/02/2010 to 03/03/2010 ,  7 nights
2153.35 PLN
The promotion "Winter Promotion - Chilled Rates 3=2" looks the cheapest

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:40 am
by Chupaka
as far as I can see, there's only 'Hot deals - no change, no cancellation' and 'Best Unrestricted Rate' now in online booking. both are more expensive than 'special offer' =)

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:37 am
by NAB
Just booked my hotel through http://www.staypoland.com.

Found what looks to be a nice little place a short walk away and have booked three nights for PLN597 including breakfast (as opposed to the main hotel's price of PLN1090 including breakfast).

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:05 pm
by MichelePietravalle
Just booked from hotel website, 3 night (28-1-2-3) for 894PL, good price!

now i'm looking fro transport from airport to hotel!

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:22 pm
by Chupaka
Just booked from hotel website, 3 night (28-1-2-3) for 894PL, good price!
Breakfast extra: 54.98 PLN / day / adult :(

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:24 pm
by MichelePietravalle
Just booked from hotel website, 3 night (28-1-2-3) for 894PL, good price!
Breakfast extra: 54.98 PLN / day / adult :(
yes, breakfast is very expensive, but usually i don't make breakfast at morning.. :lol:

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:24 am
by ayufan
in Wroclaw you can find without any problem hostel for about 40-50zl for a night without breakfast ;)

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:57 pm
by Chupaka
yahooo ))) just checked in to the hotel - and found the bug in the washstand ))) such a moustached... wanted to take a photo, but he run away in the sewerage :(

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:24 pm
by Muqatil
are you already here?

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:37 pm
by Chupaka
yep, I'll go down in 10 minutes ))

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:22 pm
by normis
can anyone see the live video stream in tiktube.com ? :) internet upload is terrible so far

Re: PL MUM HOTEL PRICE (sticky please)

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:25 pm
by dog
can anyone see the live video stream in tiktube.com ?
Yup. :)
A bit choppy though sometimes.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:35 pm
by normis
made some QoS for the stream, see if it's better now :) people starting to gather, as you see - there is still plenty of beer left :P

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:50 pm
by gcakici
Can't see anything on the tiktube.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:04 pm
by normis
sorry, it went offline for a while, it's back

try this: http://www.tiktube.com/?live=live
or this: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mikrotik
or this: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mikrotik/v3

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:24 pm
by Ibersystems
Medianet! Ti have dinner at the same time in the same place xD

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:28 pm
by Muqatil
Shall we upload here some pics Normis? or can you provide us a ftp space?
Martin, i'll try to join you, my friend is just arrived and he's tired. I'll force him to come.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:29 pm
by void
made some QoS for the stream, see if it's better now :) people starting to gather, as you see - there is still plenty of beer left :P
No, it's still choppy. Prove to us that Qos works, I'm curious...

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:37 pm
by normis
QoS works great, but hotel has 512K upload, and there is 5 stories of hotel rooms, speed is split :) we can only control what's on our router.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:42 pm
by dog
Bildschirmfoto 2010-02-28 um 19.41.17.jpg
....and wee need a Chat ;-)

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:43 pm
by normis

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:44 pm
by Ibersystems
xDDD

MUM Big brother
mum.JPG

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:50 pm
by normis
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:00 pm
by dog
Bildschirmfoto 2010-02-28 um 19.56.31.png
Bildschirmfoto 2010-02-28 um 19.54.42.jpg
those will probably more fun the later it gets :D

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:01 pm
by normis
it's already 2 hours since they started serving beer :)

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:20 am
by normis
video stream is now improved, and we are live from conference hall. presentations start in 40 minutes

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:52 am
by roc-noc.com
video stream is now improved, and we are live from conference hall. presentations start in 40 minutes
I hope there will be a tiktube available for the first presentation. The live feed is not staying connected.

Tom

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:54 am
by csickles
Feed is now DEAD... :( :(

Just "clocking"..

And I stayed up till 2AM....

Will wait for a bit ....

Wanted to gat a look at the new hardware...

:(

You stream I stream we all can't stream on uStream.... :lol:

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:58 am
by nz_monkey
Yeah it's dead here too :(

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:00 am
by brotherdust
If there were some way to relay it, I would volunteer all my (200) megabits.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:06 am
by brotherdust
If there were some way to relay it, I would volunteer all my (200) megabits.
Ahh. That's better!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:09 am
by csickles
I rebooted..

It cleared up..

If cant get feed, try reboot ...

It JUST started.. Naormis is kicking it off.... (House keeping items etc..)

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:20 am
by csickles
RouterOS Ver 5 !!!!

JUST announced !!!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:25 am
by csickles
Public beta in two weeks..

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:31 am
by ginovilla
Was the RB1100 announced?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:32 am
by nz_monkey
Yes RB1100 was announced, not really any news about the CPU that I caught anyway.

Maybe someone else caught it, my stream stopped for about 5 seconds :(

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:34 am
by brotherdust
RB1100 = WIN
RB250GS or whatever.. = MEH. Needs more ports! How about PoE?

I'm pretty impressed with the product announcements overall. Thanks, Mikrotik!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:34 am
by rmichael
RB1100 will be faster and cheaper than RB1000...no CPU specs given however.

no fans/moving parts

front vents

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:35 am
by brotherdust
RB1100 = WIN
RB250GS or whatever.. = MEH. Needs more ports! How about PoE?

I'm pretty impressed with the product announcements overall. Thanks, Mikrotik!
I suppose they are already thinking about this.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:36 am
by ginovilla
Any details to share?

Same enclosure as RB1000?

All gige Ports?

AC or DC input?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:37 am
by nz_monkey
SSTP sounds interesting, but I wish Mikrotik would stop adding all these new trendy VPN's and just bring their IPSEC up to scratch!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:38 am
by siscom
Hi ginovilla,

Same height 1U,
All gig ports,
no info on power ...

Rgds,
Mark

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:40 am
by nz_monkey
RB1100 Confirmed:

Same enclosure as RB1000, just more holes for ports and front/rear vented
No fans
Board is much longer to accommodate ports
All ports are gigabit

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:42 am
by ginovilla
Any idea on RB1100 Price ?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:42 am
by brotherdust
SOMEONE ASK WHAT CPU THE 1100 USES!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:43 am
by nz_monkey
Ok more, there are two switch chips so can have 2x 5port switch groups
also, 1 POE input port

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:44 am
by nz_monkey
CPU speed is the same as RB800, it has the same CPU...

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:44 am
by brotherdust
SOMEONE ASK WHAT CPU THE 1100 USES!
Does the 1100 have switch chips? What's the max throughput/backplane?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:45 am
by nz_monkey
Yes, as posted above RB1100 has 2x Attansic switch chips

Also, RB250GS also uses Attansic(Atheros) switch chips.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:49 am
by csickles
havent heard that yet...

They need to have some one moniter the forums for questions.....

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:51 am
by gmsmstr
same as 800

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:52 am
by brotherdust
Did mikrotik change directions to concentrate on routing?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:52 am
by csickles
Just heard about $500.00 APROX. for the 1100..

Emphisis on the APROX !!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:54 am
by brotherdust
Did mikrotik change directions to concentrate on routing?
I think they're kinda dropping the ball in the wireless area, specifically in the area of newer or innovative technologies that could give them a pretty competitive edge. Hence the question.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:54 am
by brotherdust
Did mikrotik change directions to concentrate on routing?
I think they're kinda dropping the ball in the wireless area, specifically in the area of newer or innovative technologies that could give them a pretty competitive edge. Hence the question.
Bedtime.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:56 am
by nz_monkey
Mikrotik already concentrate on routing....

It seems they are trying to widen their potential market by introducing a new switching OS and a 5 port L2 switch to run it, IMHO it seems to small and simple to really be useful . But who knows, they may introduce a 24port version with MSTP support and dual 10 Gig uplinks....

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:03 pm
by csickles
For all of us theat NEED simple , inexpensive network "Probes"...
This is GREAT NEWS !!!

Also some network security devices require a "tap" port to run IE FaceTime..

NICE alternitave to the $1,000 and up tap devices..

Yes some swithes in the mid range can do it... but most are a pain to set up..

Other features look interesting as well..

Need to get one SOON !!!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:04 pm
by ste
Did mikrotik change directions to concentrate on routing?
Looks like. No announcement regarding wireless. Just router/switch. No improvements
in 11n. No smart client device with signal leds and Mimo built in. The 1100 seems to be
slower then the RB1000.

I think it's not a real good idea to start building switches. There are a lot of cheap
switches out there. Switch built into router is a good idea as it reduces equipment.
But everybody has a gigabit standalone Switch already.

Thanks it's not Apple. The stocks would drop by 50% immediately.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:08 pm
by Ibersystems
1ghz

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:08 pm
by nz_monkey
No, but they have been advertising for an RF engineer with antenna design experience. It could be for testing environments, but then it could be for product development....

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:24 pm
by normis
simply the loads of wireless products were not ready for announcement, don't worry guys :)

so, how did I do :D ?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:33 pm
by ste
simply the loads of wireless products were not ready for announcement, don't worry guys :)
But I worry ;-))
so, how did I do :D ?
Fine! The stream works well. Tell Patrik Schaub to leave his desk and
do some action. People fall asleep ;-)).

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:49 pm
by nz_monkey
Haha, nice one Normis ! I am sure many people are eagerly awaiting the "loads" of new wireless products, may they have many blinking blue LED's ;)

The presentation of the new products was good. What was introduced with the RB1100 was evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

The new product launches appear to be driven by the technical/support teams, maybe a little more sales type info would be useful. e.g. Target markets, Retail price point, Estimated shipping date

The RouterOS 5 information was also good, SSTP will be useful and the improvements in RouterOS's IPv6 implementation is great.

<flamebait> I have never liked the inclusion of OpenVPN in RouterOS, I look forward to seeing it replaced with SSTP </flamebait>

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:04 pm
by ste
Haha, nice one Normis ! I am sure many people are eagerly awaiting the "loads" of new wireless products, may they have many blinking blue LED's ;)
I like LEDs ;-)) Esp. When they tell: "Power is on and signal is Perfect. Please dont call your wisp".
I love this poe adapters with LED. They solve 80% of my problems with one fast look.

I know the times when every PC has LED Numbers showing the Megahertz it is running at.
People love this stuff.

So Normis bring the 200MBit/s LED to my customers ;-)).

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:49 pm
by brotherdust
simply the loads of wireless products were not ready for announcement, don't worry guys :)

so, how did I do :D ?
I'm not sure what you are asking our opinion on here, but I'll give it a shot:
You personally did great. Your co-workers could (uhhhhh...) use some (uhhhh.....) refinements in public speaking. Though I suspect the pausing is a result of being bi or tri-lingual and getting all the words in a jumble before they exit the queue. =) So, who am I to point the finger? I'm only weakly multi-lingual.

I applaud you all on your hard work a dedication to bring us (unreasonable as we can all be) a great product. Keep it up, guys!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:59 pm
by Eliminateur
any news on the RB250GS?, please tell me it's a RB450G with 8+ ports......

5 ports just don't cut it for me and adding an 8port gigaswitch does not cut it money and spacewise(think Cisco RV200ish, 16 ports multi-wan router all-independant ports, VPN, ~300$)

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:36 pm
by Eising
Nope. 5 port switch.
I'm not very enthusiastic about it myself, but then again, the switch market is very crowded, especially in the low end.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:54 pm
by nz_monkey
I agree with Eising about the RB250GS, hence my comment to Normis about target markets.

I am sure if we knew where Mikrotik were aiming to sell this, we could probably sell them.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:07 pm
by Chupaka
Medianet! Ti have dinner at the same time in the same place xD
guys, where have you all have been lost? %( today time was changed? :(

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:22 pm
by void
Any details ? Why would you buy a RB250GS instead of a 750G ? Price ? Features ?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:34 pm
by Ibersystems
We are in piramida restaurant in the center! If you would come, you could go to the center!!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:35 pm
by Ibersystems
U have my mobile in facebook!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:11 am
by Chupaka
Any details ? Why would you buy a RB250GS instead of a 750G ? Price ? Features ?
instead of? no. 250gs is a switch, not a router. it doesn't route at all =)

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:27 am
by normis

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:33 pm
by normis
All mum slides PDF are already online:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MUM_2010_PL

Some recorded videos here below the live feed:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mikrotik/v3

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:32 pm
by Eliminateur
most unfortunate, i was really expecting an 8 port+ gigabit routerboard(no, a rb1100 will not work for a soho/home router :D ) without a 2 digit pricetag, or a 493G without minipci slots, i guess i'll wait for next year to see if they come up with a >5port inexpensive version to consider deployment

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:46 pm
by normis
more than 8 gigabit port routerboar under 99$ ? I think even chinese switch is more expensive :)

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:02 pm
by void
Any details ? Why would you buy a RB250GS instead of a 750G ? Price ? Features ?
instead of? no. 250gs is a switch, not a router. it doesn't route at all =)
True, but the 750G can also switch, right ?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:06 pm
by Chupaka
if you need only switch - then yes...

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:02 am
by gcakici

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:47 am
by Ibersystems
My MUM finish now : P!

Thanks to:
"italian style" moments
Italia VS Spain VS Portugal VS Claudio dinners
Anna, our best polish waitress.
Tom, for being as is.
Polish beers
People participating in security presentations
Paulina and the expressos
Normis and the moments like "I'm looking for VISAS"
All the people participating in the presentations
Exhibitors
MKT staff
People hacking in the hotel network
Trainers
The 6 girls that went to the MUM.


I enjoyed this MUM very much : D!


See you next year!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:59 am
by Chupaka
that was absolutely cool!

guys, you are the best! :D especially "italian style"!

Normis, Janis, Maris, Uldis, Edmunds, Janis, Arnis - personal THANKS! show must go on!

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:59 pm
by jcrites2008
I would love to see a RB493G. Can't wait to see what new wireless products are forthcoming.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:01 pm
by Eliminateur
true, 12~16 ports gigaswitches price rise exponentially, but i'd be more than happy with an 8 port version, 5 ports is just too few(is the same with an encore adsl modem, 4 ports available), take this example:
1 port lost to modem/wan device
1 port to wifi backhaul/bridge/MAN link
only 3 ports left for computers which in the aforementioned case is more than likely to be present.
that leaves 0 available ports for any other gadget/access point/roaming devices

even if it breaches the $99 mark, as long as it ends up being cheaper than a RB450G(or 750G)+8-port gigaswitch(which runs in the 80~$ range here bringing the total close to 200$) then it's more cost-effective to the customer(and also gives much more control as now i can do rules and access control on a port-based basis and segment the switch as i want that i wouldn't be able to do with a regular switch uplinked to a port on the routerboard), thus my comment about a RB493G without mpci(or one mini-pcie)
more than 8 gigabit port routerboar under 99$ ? I think even chinese switch is more expensive :)

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:27 pm
by jcrites2008
I would assume that a 750G could do everything that RB250GS can do plus more. A 750G is $70 so is it safe to assume this switch might be down around $50 or so? Personally I would still rather shell out a little more to get the 750G. Also, it would be nice if they had a non-gigabit switch for say $25 that worked in cold and hot temperatures. Sometimes we need a switch outdoors. It will be interesting to see what the temperature rating for the RB250GS is.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:35 pm
by void
Exactly, how many times do you need a managed 5 port switch ? Most of the times unmanaged does the job and those switches are cheap. If I want more functionality I'll prefer to buy a 750G which has all the features I need and even more.

I would directly buy a 24/48 POE port Mikrotik switch if they created one but I'll pass for this one, sorry guys.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:36 pm
by normis
I think "those times" are when this switch costs 2x less of RB750G ;)

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:56 pm
by jcrites2008
I think "those times" are when this switch costs 2x less (or even less that) of RB750G ;)
Normis,

Well that's certainly good news, can you tell us whether or not this is meant to work outdoors or perhaps the operating temperatures?

Thank you!

Jason

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:58 pm
by void
Normis,

Could be but it would be usefull if Mikrotik released some information for people that weren't on the MUM...

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:07 pm
by normis

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:34 pm
by void
Normis,

I saw this page but I can't find the video were the new products are announced. I'm interested to see pricing info, target market info etc. The slides don't tell everyhting. Like for example it seems there will be 2 versions of the 250GS ? Regular or Smart ?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:05 am
by Muqatil
Home Sweet Home!
Definitely, a whole week with a lot of people sharing the same interests (Networking,Beer and Girls) was awesome!
Thanks to the foolish spanish that spiced up the italian style. Thanks to the other people that came and shared their thoughts. I learnt a lot.
When the lottery was going on I just woke up (it was planned for 16.30 and i woke up at 16.20) i watched it on tiktube.. and they called my name :(
that's evil.. :(
Now it's time to change my signature! :lol:

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:17 am
by normis
no video of that yet, in about 1 week. have to recode the hd video

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:01 am
by kapulan
HI Guys

More need to 24 port giga eth switch for end corporate client and stacking feature.THX.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:30 am
by dssmiktik
no video of that yet, in about 1 week. have to recode the hd video
Thanks Normis. I look forward to seeing the hardware and software demo.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:09 pm
by xins
yeah the MUM was great (my first one btw. I felt like a virgin:D:D:D)

I even speek with chupaka (yeah thats me;P this big guy who ask about your age:))

Evrything was very nice exept presentations made by interp***** :) they realy suck at those :) (its my subjective opinion as allways)


So see you next year I hope :) maby in Rzeszów?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:22 pm
by Chupaka

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:28 pm
by Raf
Ha! So the guy with so-nice-looking(tm) haircut was Chupaka :D

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:30 pm
by stek
Here my photos of the MUM2010PL: http://flickr.com/gp/stefanoklett/Vbo26v

:lol:

Regards
Stefano

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:02 pm
by normis

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:23 pm
by Muqatil
Uploaded some photos of Italian Style!
MUM 2010 PL

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:15 pm
by Chupaka
Uploaded some photos of Italian Style!
MUM 2010 PL
I am Routing VAMPIRE! http://www.medianetitalia.net/muqa/gall ... L/DSCN0010 bwhaha! :D

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:46 am
by pikpik
beer beer , only beers. Where are the girls, guys ? :P

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:52 am
by mrz
beer beer , only beers. Where are the girls, guys ? :P
There were some girls in this MUM, it's a significant progress (better few then none) :D

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:09 pm
by normis
lots of girls were present this year! http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/PL10/

at least 20 I mean.

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:17 pm
by pikpik
Ohh ill see :P

http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/PL10/ ... 2.jpg.html
What brand are these antennas?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:22 pm
by normis

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:02 pm
by Raf
Ohh ill see :P

http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/PL10/ ... 2.jpg.html
What brand are these antennas?
RF elements?

Re: MUM Poland 2010 thread

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:45 am
by omidkosari
A question about v5 . How much maximum will v5 support ?
with growing of KVM usage i think more ram will be useful .