ROS 5.0beta1 is not starting on PC Engines's alix6e2-SOLVED

ta2mzl · Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:52 pm

Hi everybody;
I load RouterOS 5.0beta1 to CF card and tried on PC Engines's alix6e2. Result is not good.
RouterOs is not starting in 10-20 minutes and staying as follow (RouterOS 4.6 is working with same way);

PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h
640 KB Base Memory
261120 KB Extended Memory

01F0 Master 848A SanDisk SDCFB-128
Phys C/H/S 980/8/32 Log C/H/S 980/8/32

SYSLINUX 3.84 2009-12-18 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2009 H. Peter Anvin et al
Loading linux...................
Loading initrd.rgz...............ready.

ta2mzl · Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:36 pm

Hi;

Does anybody have answer for that problem?

thanks.

marlow · Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:30 pm

I upgraded an ALIX.6e2 from 4.6 to 5.0beta1 without any problems using ftp+reboot.

So something must have gone wrong in your install/upgrade.

/M

ta2mzl · Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:42 am

Hi marlow and thanks for your answer;

I tried two different way to upload to ROS v5 beta;

I have no any licence yet but I want to work on Level number 0 (FREE) mode first.

first I installed v4.6 via netinstall and board is working properly with that version, after I select the downloaded v5 files with my mouse, and drag it to the Files menu but winbox is freezing and connection dropping. It can not allow to copy files in to "file list".

second I uploaded v5 files to "file list" via File Zilla FTP , I can upload all v5 files (21 files totals) properly and I am starting reboot procedure but board is starting with v4.6 again.

May be my problem is licence. ROS is confusing without licence?

But that is my first experience with any x86 board for ROS , I want to be sure every things ok before install licence.

thanks.

marlow · Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:37 pm

May be my problem is licence. ROS is confusing without licence?

But that is my first experience with any x86 board for ROS , I want to be sure every things ok before install licence.

Is there any specific reason, why you want to test 5.0beta1 so ? It is a beta, still has bugs and should not be used in production.

What features are in 5.0beta1, that you need ?

/M

ta2mzl · Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:24 am

Hi marlow;

I can say yes because; I am working on 3G bridge/router and 4.6 has bug for static route and that version needs fix for that problem. MT guys know that and they fixed that problem in v5.0beta1

Latest version is working properly with my 3G card. That's why I want to load that version.

v5.0beta1 is working without any problem on RB411U but I could not success on alix6e2 yet.

I need help from any proffesional ROS users.

thanks.

avantwireless · Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:41 pm

Note my message about WRAP boards. There is a bug in the 5beta1 boot for these archs... But it's not your fault or a license issue. Tried 5 ways from sunday to get it to boot but it will not. Somewhere there is a bad piece of code...

Robert

ta2mzl · Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:49 pm

thanks Avantwireless;

I hope MT guys will fix that problem ASAP.

I hope they are reading that

regards.

Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:24 am

if there is a problem why do only some of you have it?

ta2mzl · Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:08 am

Just I am waiting useful answer from MT site.

We are trying to use ROS, are we making mistake to do that ?

are we making mistake to become Mikrotik user?

Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:17 am

if you have a problem with RouterOS, send us detailed report to support. We can't help just by guessing what the problem is. Send us console output and full information on what you did and what happened.

ta2mzl · Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:51 am

I did already , Normis.

thanks.

Ticket#2010021166000511

Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:36 pm

Alix 1d, Alix 6b, Alix 2c works fine. We just tested

ta2mzl · Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:44 pm

My boards are ALIX.6E2/LX800 256MB.

What is your CF card brand and size? I tried 3 different CF card. v4.6 is working but v5 can not start of all.

first try- It can not allow to copy v5beta1 files in to "file list".
second try - I can upload all v5 files (21 files totals) properly and I am starting reboot procedure but board is starting with v4.6 again.

thanks Normis.

Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:47 pm

in that case, there is no problem! you confused us.

first check log and see the reason.

ta2mzl · Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:55 pm

Normis , Could you give me more clue?

which log (name) do I need to add to logging and see ?

thanks?

Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:56 pm

don't add any, if there is problem, it will be there already.

if after reboot still have old version, you probably uploaded files into the wrong place. make sure they are at the TOP of the files list, not in some folder.

marlow · Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:14 pm

When I upgraded my ALIX 6e2 I used the package with all packages in one, not the zip file with the individual ones.

You might want to try that, instead of uploading the 21 files.

/M

avantwireless · Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:50 pm

Normis,
How many systems did you test with. We sucessfully upgraded 4 systems and had 2 fail. That's why you see some who have no problem. It seems to be on a board by board basis. I sent in a supout.rif from 4.6 of a board that failed. Let me know if that helps. This is a thorny problem...

ALSO please fix the 4.6 netinstall on the download page!!!!!!! Can't believe it's still broken a day after being reported...

robert

ta2mzl · Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:20 pm

don't add any, if there is problem, it will be there already.

if after reboot still have old version, you probably uploaded files into the wrong place. make sure they are at the TOP of the files list, not in some folder.

Hi Normis;

When I connect to board via FTP Client I am sending version files to root ( also I have one packet for v5beta1 and I tried with this instead of 21 files)

and log output as follow

Jan/01/2000 00:16:45 system,info log rule changed by admin
Jan/01/2000 00:16:48 system,info log rule changed by admin
Jan/01/2000 00:17:17 system,info,account user admin logged in from 192.168.1.11 via ftp
Jan/01/2000 00:17:32 system,info,account user admin logged in from 192.168.1.11 via ftp
Jan/01/2000 00:17:56 system,info,account user admin logged out from 192.168.1.11 via winbox
Jan/01/2000 00:17:56 system,info,account user admin logged out from 192.168.1.11 via ftp
Jan/01/2000 00:17:56 system,info,account user admin logged out from 192.168.1.11 via ftp
Jan/01/2000 00:17:58 kvm,error no hardware virtualization support
Jan/01/2000 00:18:39 system,info verified routeros-x86-5.0beta1.npk
Jan/01/2000 00:18:39 system,info installed routeros-x86-5.0beta1
Jan/01/2000 00:18:39 system,info router rebooted
Jan/01/2000 00:18:42 kvm,error no hardware virtualization support
Jan/01/2000 00:20:15 system,info,account user admin logged in from 192.168.1.11 via winbox

avantwireless · Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:11 am

4.6 Netinstall is now fixed! YAHOO!

Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:50 am

nobody touched the netinstall files. must have been your proxy cache or something

avantwireless · Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:12 am

We tried downloading it from 6 of the mirrors. From 5 different systems... 1 XP 1 Vista 1 Win7 and 2 linux systems... All different networks... hmm yeah must have been a proxy cache.... right...

Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:34 am

netinstall is not affected by the mirror selection, it's always in one site

ta2mzl · Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:47 am

Normis hi;
is there any idea for my problem?

I put log file lines to my message, you can see that; v5 is installing but board is still working with v4.6. (via ftp)

when I try other alternative to load ROS ; If I load pure v5 to CF car, It can not boot with v5, just staying.

thanks.

ta2mzl · Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:35 pm

No any improve, please help.

Normis;

could you give me your CF card detail (size, type(mlc,slc), brand) ?

thanks.

marlow · Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:46 pm

SanDisc 128 MB is what I used successfully.

/M

ta2mzl · Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:44 pm

yess, I have same in use.

ta2mzl · Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:37 pm

Hi everyone who follow that subject;

I told that to MT guys but they didn't believe me!

yes there is a problem as below but why, don't know;

if you are using netinstall-5.0beta1 to load v5beta1 to CF card for alix6e2 it can not start ROS v5beta1 on board.
just waiting as below;

PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h
640 KB Base Memory
261120 KB Extended Memory

01F0 Master 848A SanDisk SDCFB-128
Phys C/H/S 980/8/32 Log C/H/S 980/8/32

SYSLINUX 3.84 2009-12-18 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2009 H. Peter Anvin et al
Loading linux...................
Loading initrd.rgz...............ready.

if you are using netinstall-4.6 to load v5beta1 to CF card for alix6e2. it can start ROS v5beta1 on board.

PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h
640 KB Base Memory
261120 KB Extended Memory

01F0 Master 848A SanDisk SDCFB-128
Phys C/H/S 980/8/32 Log C/H/S 980/8/32

SYSLINUX 2.08 2003-12-12  Copyright (C) 1994-2003 H. Peter Anvin
Loading linux....................
Loading initrd.rgz..............
Ready.

after 7-10 minutes;

PC Engines ALIX.2 v0.99h
640 KB Base Memory
261120 KB Extended Memory

01F0 Master 848A SanDisk SDCFB-128
Phys C/H/S 980/8/32 Log C/H/S 980/8/32
Loading system with initrd

MikroTik 5.0beta1
MikroTik Login:
Password:

marlow · Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:22 am

Well, that looks like a problem with netinstall, not routeros 5.0beta1, but good, that you got it working.

/M

ta2mzl · Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:36 am

yes marlow, I got it and working now.

thank you for all help

avantwireless · Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:46 am

It happens with upgrades to. There must be a problem in the bootloader...

parnican · Thu May 06, 2010 12:12 am

I can confirm same issue on WRAP board. If Netinstall 5.1 used CPU was extremely HOT, it looks like locked system.
Loading linux....................
Loading initrd.rgz..............Ready. an nothing else!

As soon as used Netinstall 4.9 works great!

ta2mzl · Thu May 06, 2010 5:19 pm

Hi Pernican;

I have same problem from the very beginning; If you use Netinstall 5.0beta1 or Netinstall 5.0beta1 for load any ROS to CF card, ALIX series boards are not starting!

I told that to Mikrotik when Netinstall 5.0beta1 delivered but Netinstall 5.0beta1 issued same problem.

I thing we can not use ALIX board with Netinstall 5.x

regards.

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