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MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:33 pm

What's new in 5.0beta2 (2010-Apr-30 08:44):

*) added wireless distance setting, removed ack-timeout;
*) improved 802.11 operation for outdoor distances;
*) fixed sstp on x86;
*) console - removed 'delay' argument from '/system scheduler add' command;
*) console - remove 'comment=""' values from export;
*) console - updated '/system script job':
- also show active login sessions here;
- new read-only property 'type' with values "command", "login"
or "api-login" for running commands and either kind of login sessions;
- new optional read-only property 'parent' with id of the job that
has spawned this one;
*) console - changed "started" property of '/system script job' to use
local time;
*) console - new property 'type' in '/system script job'
*) console - added '/port remote-access export' command;
*) console - fixed bug that caused "cannot set ..." error when using
some properties in 'find' commands;
*) show old software id in export file header;
*) api - can supply password to '/system/upgrade/upgrade-package-source/add';
*) api - 'print' command was not showing values of some properties
such as 'servers' in "/ip/dns";
*) api - fixed api login sessions not dissapearing from '/user active' after
termination;
*) '/user active' now lists type of api connections as 'api';
*) added support for hardware watchdog on RB1000 & RB800;
*) added support for ASIX AX88xxx based USB Ethernet Adapters on RB4xx;
*) fixed problem - ipv6 traffic was not bridged if ipv6 package was not enabled;
*) fixed getting interface stats in dude;
*) fixed metarouter stability problem on RB400s & RB750s;
*) fixed metarouter - it didn't work on RB1000 with 2Gb;
*) fixed metarouter - it locked up on RB800;
*) fixed problem - SFQ queues did not work on interfaces (wireless) if none
of simple or tree queues were added;
*) fixed RB800 temperature;
*) fixed problem - WinBox crashed while opening VAP interface;
*) dhcp server - fixed possible inactive dhcp server in case of many
dhcp leases with address-pool enabled;
*) dhcp server - show non-printable option 82 agent-circuit-id and
agent-remote-id values in hexadecimal notation
(in the same way as client-id is shown);
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Important note:

Beware that 5.0beta2 version is still beta version, and may contain bugs,
therefore should be used on non-critical systems at first. Any issues found
(including crashes, lockups, degradation of performance) should be reported to
support@mikrotik.com, accompanied by supout.rif file.

As of version 5.0beta2 wireless interface "ack-timeout" setting has been
replaced by "distance" setting. Not only distance setting should make
configuration easier, but additionally should improve long link performance,
especially 11n performance. Distance setting does not apply to nstreme
mode.

"distance" can be:
- indoors - standard 802.11
- 1...1000 - approximate distance in km
- dynamic - to be detected automatically upon registration, the same way as
ack-timeout=dynamic before.

Default value of "distance" setting for fresh installs and upgraded systems is
"dynamic", no matter what previous value of "ack-timeout" was. Therefore after
upgrading it is strongly recommended to check what is the dynamic distance
estimate.

It is normal for dynamically estimated distance to be off by a few km from
actual distance and also change from card to card. It is always possible to
change over to static distance setting and find the value that provides the
best performance.

If dynamic distance estimate is erratic: obvious huge difference from actual
distance (>3km), significantly different distance estimate in multiple
registrations between the same devices, it is advised to change over to static
distance setting.

In order to get the benefits of this feature, all devices in wireless network
must be upgraded.

In point-to-multipoint networks, the value of AP distance setting should
reflect the distance to the furthest client.
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:32 pm

*) improved 802.11 operation for outdoor distances;

Does this refer to the ack-timeout change, or are there improvements in nstreme as well? For N?
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:51 pm

If dynamic distance estimate is erratic: obvious huge difference from actual
distance (>3km), significantly different distance estimate in multiple
registrations between the same devices, it is advised to change over to static
distance setting.
Where do you see the current estimated distance?
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:19 pm

usually it's two different changes if they are two different lines in changelog, however soon you will see lots of other wireless improvements, this is only the beginning
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:48 pm

Are you looking to replace nstreme with TDMA, or supplement Nstreme with TDMA?

/int wireless set 0 ?
....
tdma-additional-txrxguard
tdma-debug
tdma-override-rate
tdma-override-size

My first try with non-nstreme N on a long link (35km) didn't work out at all. I would get a sporadic ping across the link for a second or two then nothing more. Tried dynamic as well as 34km, 35km, 36km, etc...

Working well with nstreme, using wds, one chain, enabled only MCS 0-5 and no A/G rates.
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:19 pm

Looking forward to testing out beta2 on all my long PtPs over the weekend.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:26 pm

however soon you will see lots of other wireless improvements, this is only the beginning
:shock:

For example?
Give us a preview..
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:29 pm

Another 7.5km link with N, non-nstreme and vpls was working fair under 4.5. Now under 5.0b2, much better. It calculated the distance at 9km. Tried 7 and 8, but 9 seemed to give best CCQ - now in the high 90's vs 70-80's before.

Wonder if the new distance settings don't work with WDS?

Also wonder if this is already using TDMA? :)

On my long link it's working better than before with Nstreme as well.
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:08 pm

torrent is broken ... no seeds or something.
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Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:24 pm

wahooooo... my first success at fixing the broken torrent download. I got all the files in place and I think I am seeding it now.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sat May 01, 2010 4:58 am

v5b1 and v5b2 RB450G issues: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 32#p206032

Another issue I have: the Supout creation is taking too long now...

P.S. I down+upgraded anyway, from v5b2 backup usermanager, then to v4.9, then back to v5b2, restore userman db. Seems working.

Supout still taking too long to create or it will not make it at all.

P.S. 2. So I'm loggin out and loggin in with WinBox. CPU is still at 100%. So the supout creatiion process has crashed. Please dev team, catch those exceptions, could you please ? Thanks.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sat May 01, 2010 11:50 am

I have test 5.0b2 in a 411A whit sr71-15.
I think is little better than 4.6. 1 or 2 more Mbit in tcp passth, CCQ is egual than 4.6 version.
A little bug, in wlan interface windows at Status tab -> Routes Os version not show correct version.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sat May 01, 2010 12:01 pm

bug in ping windows,
the scrolling is not working and some time there is a wrong report of the percentage of the packet sent.

About wireless and N it is still needed WDS to have the best performance ever.
Using nstreme+N it is not working as good as nstreme+N+wds

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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sat May 01, 2010 3:56 pm

Bug in scripting:

The following code no longer works and returns the error message "Script Error: cannot compare if string is less than string":
:if ([/system resource get version] < "4.6") do={
  :log error "This script is not supported on the installed ROS version.";
  :log error "Please install ROS v4.6 or higher.";
  :set failedtests "1";
}
This works on ROS 4.x.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 12:05 am

Bug in scripting:

The following code no longer works and returns the error message "Script Error: cannot compare if string is less than string":
:if ([/system resource get version] < "4.6") do={
  :log error "This script is not supported on the installed ROS version.";
  :log error "Please install ROS v4.6 or higher.";
  :set failedtests "1";
}
This works on ROS 4.x.
This is because it contains the word beta, which is not numeric. It should work fine for final v5.x
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 3:19 am

hmm, reading all these post about bugs I am eager to see beta3 coming!
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 3:23 am

maybe they are adding a TDMA type protocol... sometimes no answer, is the answer ;)

e.g. once N was released, it was stated by Mikrotik that Nstreme was not designed for N. And ever since, they have been pretty much silent on the matter. I took this as "we are working on TDMA but dont want everyone bugging us" which seems to have been the case. But, it's not in the release notes yet, so officially it doesn't exist!
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 12:13 pm

Testing on RB411U with R52n

- when creating ap bridge with virtual APs, when you use SSID on the main wlan1 interface every connection to VAP causes reboot
- when connected do RB411's VAP, cannot access the RB411 (no icmp, no winbox); no firewall rules are defined on this box;

Above happens on 4.9 as well (currently investigating)
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 1:42 pm

PPPoE on RB450G causes problems. I think it drops clients from time to time and does not reply to them in time. If this happens again I will downgrade to v5 beta 1 and see what happens. Could this be due to the RB450G CPU goes to 100% with 45Mbit of PPPoE traffic ? could be.

Too bad I can't downgrade to 4.9 without me having to do a lot of reworking in the User Manager.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 2:17 pm

One side 3.30 other side 5.0beta2 both side R52 cards 5Ghz turbo mode x86 routers, one side ap bridge other station wds. Enable nstreme on 5.0beta2 when other side connected router hang up, need to disconnect power to work again.
Combination R52 card, x86 router and nstreme don't work :( .
Without nstreme work.
Other link but some older no name atheros 5211 card with nstreme enabled work normal.
Disconnect antenna go back to 4.9 and now is ok.
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 2:48 pm

9km link 2x 433ah + r52n, wpa aes psk, afetr 10 hour the link drop down and never reconnec. authentication timeout !!!
I must reboot routers.
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 2:58 pm

AndreaN, what mode are those cards in? How many antennas, etc ? .11a ? .11n ? 20Mhz or 40MHz channels ?
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 5:16 pm

9km link 2x 433ah + r52n, wpa aes psk, afetr 10 hour the link drop down and never reconnec. authentication timeout !!!
I must reboot routers.
!!!!! the authentication timeout is a bug of N when you choose only some high datarate.

My personal guest it to wait and if it rehappen again it is related for sure about some interference.
So use lower basic and supported MCS. Do it recursively up to the data rate it soesn't disconnect.

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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 5:33 pm

Ok, I use RB433AH whit R52n card and 2 Jirous JRC-24 DuplEX.
My signal is -75dbm and a CCQ of 80/80. Whit 4.6Ros no problem.

Configuration:
band=5ghz-onlyn
basic-rates-a/g= 6Mbps,9Mbps,12Mbps,18Mbps,24Mbps,36Mbps,48Mbps,54Mbps
basic-rates-b=1Mbps,2Mbps,5.5Mbps,11Mbps comment=""
compression=no
country= no_country_set
default-authentication=yes
disconnect-timeout=3s
frequency=5745
frequency-mode=manual-txpower
ht-ampdu-priorities=0,1
ht-amsdu-limit=8192
ht-amsdu-threshold=8192
ht-basic-mcs="mcs-0,mcs-1,mcs-2,mcs-3,mcs-4,mcs-5,mcs-6,mcs-7,mcs-8,mcs-9,mcs-10,mcs-11,mcs-12,mcs-13,mcs-14,mcs-15"
ht-extension-channel=above-control
ht-guard-interval=any
ht-rxchains=0,1
ht-supported-mcs="mcs-0,mcs-1,mcs-2,mcs-3,mcs-4,mcs-5,mcs-6,mcs-7,mcs-8,mcs-9,mcs-10,mcs-11,mcs-12,mcs-13,mcs-14,mcs-15"
ht-txchains=0,1
hw-retries=15
max-station-count=12
mode= station-wds
on-fail-retry-time=100ms
periodic-calibration=disabled
supported-rates-a/g= 6Mbps,9Mbps,12Mbps,18Mbps,24Mbps,36Mbps,48Mbps,54Mbps
supported-rates-b= 1Mbps,2Mbps,5.5Mbps,11Mbps
tx-power=16
tx-power-mode=all-rates-fixed
wmm-support=enabled
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun May 02, 2010 7:18 pm

try to change both cards with another one and set tx-power to correct values (cant be more than on default)... if you have set tx-power to 16db and card have for example 40mhz channel and mcs15 only 11dbm it can demage this card.
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Mon May 03, 2010 10:16 am

Another 7.5km link with N, non-nstreme and vpls was working fair under 4.5. Now under 5.0b2, much better. It calculated the distance at 9km. Tried 7 and 8, but 9 seemed to give best CCQ - now in the high 90's vs 70-80's before.

Sorry infowest where to check about the calculated Distance when i set it up to dynamic?

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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Mon May 03, 2010 6:48 pm

[/quote]


Sorry infowest where to check about the calculated Distance when i set it up to dynamic?

regards
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I found it finally under /interface wireless monitor 0

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Mon May 03, 2010 7:04 pm


Sorry infowest where to check about the calculated Distance when i set it up to dynamic?

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I found it finally under /interface wireless monitor 0

Randy[/quote]

I don't see it in cliente or ap:
[admin@Mari-Matinella] > interface wireless monitor 0
status: connected-to-ess
band: 5ghz-11n
frequency: 5540MHz
wireless-protocol: nstreme
tx-rate: "240.0Mbps-HT"
rx-rate: "240.0Mbps-HT"
ssid: "Matinella-Mari"
bssid: 00:0C:42:3A:D0:CB
radio-name: "000C423AD0CB"
signal-strength: -62dBm
tx-signal-strength: -65dBm
noise-floor: -114dBm
signal-to-noise: 52dB
tx-ccq: 100%
rx-ccq: 96%
p-throughput: 147345
overall-tx-ccq: 100%
authenticated-clients: 1
wds-link: yes
nstreme: yes
polling: yes
csma-disabled: yes
framing-mode: best-fit
-- [Q quit|D dump|C-z pause|down]

status: running-ap
band: 5ghz-11n
frequency: 5540MHz
wireless-protocol: nstreme
noise-floor: -115dBm
overall-tx-ccq: 95%
registered-clients: 1
authenticated-clients: 1
polling: yes
csma-disabled: yes
wmm-enabled: yes
current-tx-powers: 6Mbps:18(18/21),9Mbps:18(18/21),12Mbps:18(18/21),18Mbps:18(18/21),24Mbps:18(18/21),36Mbps:18(18/21),48Mbps:18(18/21),54Mbps:18(18/21),HT20-0:18(18/21),HT20-1:18(18/21),
HT20-2:18(18/21),HT20-3:18(18/21),HT20-4:18(18/21),HT20-5:18(18/21),HT20-6:18(18/21),HT20-7:18(18/21),HT40-0:18(18/21),HT40-1:18(18/21),HT40-2:18(18/21),HT40-3:18(18/21),
HT40-4:18(18/21),HT40-5:18(18/21),HT40-6:18(18/21),HT40-7:18(18/21)
notify-external-fdb: yes


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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Mon May 03, 2010 7:23 pm

Distance is only calculated in non-nstreme mode.
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Mon May 03, 2010 11:50 pm

rpingar can u please make a bandwidth test TCP Duplex, and monitor CCQ and tx/rx rate.
Can i tell me the passtrought, tx/rx rate and CCQ during test?
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Tue May 04, 2010 7:30 am

rpingar can u please make a bandwidth test TCP Duplex, and monitor CCQ and tx/rx rate.
Can i tell me the passtrought, tx/rx rate and CCQ during test?
tnku
it is around 95mbps FD using rb800, or 55mbps FD using rb433ah
tx/rx rate remain costant at 243 and ccq is aboce 90%

I was able to reach this values using the suggested EXE's config.

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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Tue May 04, 2010 10:52 pm

which card you use? Do you have a low noise floor I suggest you use SR71, may be?
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Wed May 05, 2010 6:54 am

ROS 5.0beta2 bugs and confuses met


1. Manual --> PDF version not response to download or load refman2.9.pdf
2. Console crashes after update from 4.7.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Wed May 05, 2010 8:04 am

ROS 5.0beta2 bugs and confuses met
1. Manual --> PDF version not response to download or load refman2.9.pdf
where did you see a PDF link in RouterOS?
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Wed May 05, 2010 11:04 am

ROS 5.0beta2 bugs and confuses met
1. Manual --> PDF version not response to download or load refman2.9.pdf
where did you see a PDF link in RouterOS?
I think he did mention http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation.html, old habit location.
On her some .pdf are available for downloads. Know your server Normis. :D

But it is old manual and also is downloading normal.
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Wed May 05, 2010 11:07 am

How does this relate to v5 beta ? Now you see why we don't have a public bugtracker :)
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Wed May 05, 2010 11:32 am

Well, I must agree with chvdr that up recently until I discovered the new manual setup in MT website, I also used to look at the ROS 2.9 manual occasionally since some info put in there is not always to be found back anywhere else.

And yes, I can support the opinion that sometimes bugs are corrected but never showed up in bugfix log.
I reported a bug abt. RTS/CTS winbox window output field some year ago which was confirmed by you guys with ticket and corrected in next version but never made it to the bug fix log as far as I can recall.

So yes, at least the ´feeling´ is there at times new versions bring changes that are not always mentioned in the bugfix log.
And yes, several of us make reports of bugs, or have other problems that are honoured with ticket which then reports back from MT it will have to be fixed in new firmware while that fix then never makes it to the bugfix log but the problem is gone in new version....

This behaviour than renders some of us (like me) confused since I have recently made a report of something I think is a bug. The answers of MT support were not a solution, the problem still persists and now support stay ´dead´ for some days already. Does this now mean it is a confirmed bug they are working on? Or that my report is been put aside because not important enough? In both case it would be nice to have some update what is happening with the report. I still think it is a bug because it only happens in one routerboard version and given solutions from MT support are not solving the problem.
I am talking about NTP client not passing date to NTP server in rb1000. Although clock is synchronised clients cannot synchronise from this server because the server is not synchronised.
 
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If you have found things that are covered in 2.9 manual better than in the new manual, please write a list, and we will make it for the wiki.

changelog problems and manual problems have no relation to v5. Do not call them v5 bugs.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Thu May 06, 2010 1:29 pm

I think the webfig beta has not working on this 5.0.beta2.
 
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I think the webfig beta has not working on this 5.0.beta2.
It works properly on MIPS-BE platforms only right now (RB4xx series RouterBOARDs)
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Thu May 06, 2010 3:41 pm

Does the firmware effect PtP links using Nstream as well? From what I understand the "better wirless performance outdoors" is only the Distance/ACK issue for those only NOT using Nstream, so....
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Thu May 06, 2010 3:46 pm

currently only a few improvements (not including the distance) for non-nstreme.
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Thu May 06, 2010 5:05 pm

^^ so everything "non-nstream"
 
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Fri May 07, 2010 9:01 am

there has been a wireless driver update, which would affect nstreme as well, but that's all. rest is for non-nstreme right now. but nstreme improvements are all coming together in the next big release, we will have something new for you.
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Fri May 07, 2010 11:13 am

Normis,

Could you ablige us with a rough ETA on said "Big release" as it may stop me from placing a big UBNT order to stay with Mikrotik.

8)
 
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Fri May 07, 2010 11:14 am

next week. but it will still be "beta 3" though. it means "not guaranteed to be stable"
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Fri May 07, 2010 2:08 pm

What's the QEMU/KVM version in this release?

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Fri May 07, 2010 2:30 pm

Normis,

Could you ablige us with a rough ETA on said "Big release" as it may stop me from placing a big UBNT order to stay with Mikrotik.

8)
We're looking into UBNT too. Really cheap and promising.
But:
First of all they sell with alpha quality firmware without naming it even beta.
The hardware looks interesting. Some things like LED and form-factor would be nice.
But you hear about water intrusion. Housing is plastic (interference!).
You hear about power cycle to make it run again ...
I dont believe that a bigger network with this devices is managable at this moment.
If you ask for a running example with the promised 100+ Subscribers per Sector
you never get an answer.

But they seem to be in the lead with their 11n drivers (MT ignored this for a year).
So I'm eager to see "Big release" soon.

We've decided to stay with MT after testing UBNT. New installations will be
11n capable running 11a for the moment until MT has sorted this out.
(We simple use R52N instead of R52 in clients so they have only one channel.
But this should reach 100MBit HDX somedays when things are sorted out).
Our way for APs is to use DualPol Sectors with Housing RB411AH/R52n.
These can be run as normal 11a APs (we're able to change polarisation selecting
a chain) or as 11n Segment with one selectable polarisation or as dual channel
11n in the future.

What we're still missing to be flexible is that Clients do more adaption to the
AP. So 20/40MHz Channel, Nstreme on/off, ...
I know there are scripts to do this, but I would like to see this in OS.
UBTN allows to enable/disable their Airmax at the AP ...
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sat May 08, 2010 1:19 am

I concur with above poster warning about UBNT. I see the value in their products but they are hit or miss depending on application. If Mikrotik can get it's act together with their ROS 5.0 line of software I think it will be obvious they are the superior platform when it comes to the OS and the base hardware. When it comes to design and form-factor, I am resigned to the fact Mikrotik will always be the Microsoft/PC to UBNT's Apple. :(
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Sat May 08, 2010 4:05 am

This is real exciting news. I can't wait to see the new 802.11n performance. We also, use UBNT, but I find Mikrotik more stable and better throughput, from my experience. We are starting to use Mikrotik for our backhauls, switching out our Trango and Canopy PtP links, and using UBNT for the AP/Station setups. I like UBNT for the price, and all-in-one units, that can be used outdoor. I wish Mikrotik would make something like this, for the complete outdoor CPE's.
 
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Sat May 08, 2010 8:01 pm

All user using nstreme on x86 what to upgrade to 5.0beta2 big WARNING.
If you before have problem with 4.x enable nstreme and clock go faster and resolve this problem with set multi-cpu option to yes DO NOT UPGRADE your router hung up when traffic go to the link with nstreme.

Before upgrade set multi-cpu option to no after that upgrade router and everything work normal.
Seems to me 5.0beta2 resolve bug with clock go faster on nstreme enable on some x86 mainboards, but if you before set multi-cpu to yes to solve this problem you router hung up.

I am not sure what happened on dual core router or router without clock problem with nstreme and multi-cpu to yes.
 
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Sun May 09, 2010 5:03 pm

How does this relate to v5 beta ? Now you see why we don't have a public bugtracker :)
Then why not make your bugtracker Read Only to the public so at least they can see what bugs you are working on?

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Sun May 09, 2010 11:49 pm

there has been a wireless driver update, which would affect nstreme as well, but that's all. rest is for non-nstreme right now. but nstreme improvements are all coming together in the next big release, we will have something new for you.
PLEASE, tell me there is a driver update for the SR71-15 cards. They advertise this as a high power unit, up to 27db. Yet on Mikrotik it only show up to 19db at 6Mbps, and only 14db at HT20-7.
 
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Mon May 10, 2010 1:50 am

Yes, please fix:

1. SR71-15 power issue
2. Manual MCS power setting in winbox

Please don't tell me that issue #1 is a UBNT issue and for issue #2 I should use the CLI.
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Mon May 10, 2010 5:25 pm

Is 3T3R MIMO 450mbps mode supported yet/planned?
 
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Mon May 10, 2010 8:34 pm

I try to install on x86 virtual machine 5.0beta2 but no luck. Virtual machine hangs after few seconds, cursor is blinking and nothing. I try on few other virtual machines but same results, hang and blinking cursor. Can you tell me how can install 5.0beta2 on virtual environments? With 4.x no problem working very good. Thanks for reply!
 
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Wed May 12, 2010 5:37 am

SSTP server caller-id shows ip:port where traditionally, MT showed just the IP. Havent tried RADIUS yet to see what is passed along. But preferably, it would be just IP.

At least it works now!

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Wed May 12, 2010 8:06 am

SSTP Client doesnt calculate idle time. It just counts up the same as the connection uptime. SSTP Server DOES calculate idle time.
 
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Wed May 12, 2010 4:52 pm

We saw horrible performance on 5beta2 for 802.11a links. Links that were working at 10-11mb/s tcp went down to 5-6mb/s. Wow what an improvement...

Sorry not...
 
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Wed May 12, 2010 4:57 pm

We saw horrible performance on 5beta2 for 802.11a links. Links that were working at 10-11mb/s tcp went down to 5-6mb/s. Wow what an improvement...

Sorry not...
what version you had before?
what distance the software calculated on both ends of the wireless link and is that distance correct?
 
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Wed May 12, 2010 7:13 pm

went from 3.30->4.9 (as a check of upgrade only ) -> 5.b2 -> 4.6 There were no numbers on the km output in winbox or sshing in ... figured that was an output error...
 
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Wed May 12, 2010 9:39 pm

Tried installing this on an RB1000 I had in the shop. It was using 4.6 and tried upgrading it to the 5.0Beta2 to see what it was like. The RB1000 no longer boots now. Lights come on and the unit powers up but I get no POST beeps or anything. The blue and green lights are on and I can see the activity lights on the network port respond but I can't ping the device and WinBox can't see it under the MAC listing. I really need a method to get this RB1000 up and running again.
 
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Wed May 12, 2010 11:17 pm

try a serial cable to see what's happening
 
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Thu May 13, 2010 12:36 am

Tried a serial cable connection and I get nothing. HyperTerminal says it is connected but it doesn't display anything.
 
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Thu May 13, 2010 10:25 am

cpelect, Make sure you are using the correct and working Null Modem cable and correct settings for Terminal Console program. As I can imagine, that something can go wrong, but it should not be so wrong that you are not even able to login to RouterBOARD BIOS.
 
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Thu May 13, 2010 5:59 pm

Tried a serial cable connection and I get nothing. HyperTerminal says it is connected but it doesn't display anything.
You need to powercycle the device while the terminal is on to see output.
 
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Thu May 13, 2010 7:22 pm

Ok, when I boot the RB1000 with the serial cable connected and HyperTerminal open the only thing I get in the display is:
ö╫ö 
Probably meaningless I'm guessing. It could be the cable I'm using, I'll be trying to find a proper com1 cable today. The one I have I must use adapters to get it to fit.
 
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Thu May 13, 2010 10:35 pm

try it on a known working rb.
 
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Fri May 14, 2010 12:25 am

check your COM port speed
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Fri May 14, 2010 6:01 pm

Beta3 was supposed to be out this week...?
 
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Sat May 15, 2010 1:18 am

Ok, got some better results with the new cable. This is what I get in HyperTerminal now when I boot the RB1000:
RouterBOOT booter 2.20

RouterBoard 1000

CPU frequency: 1333 MHz
  Memory size: 512 MB

Press any key within 2 seconds to enter setup..
loading kernel from nand... OK
setting up elf image...
It just hangs at this point. Suggestions?
 
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Sat May 15, 2010 1:19 am

use NetInstall to reinstall RouterOS...
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Sat May 15, 2010 2:10 am

use NetInstall to reinstall RouterOS...
Yeah, figured out how to do that and it is working once more with version 4.6 running on it. As a side note, when I tried putting 5.0Beta2 on it with the NetInstall utility the BIOS would keep saying that the disk was full and the install would fail. I find this unusual given that I had done a format on the NAND drive beforehand.
 
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Mon May 17, 2010 10:06 am

Beta3 was supposed to be out this week...?
There is no specific time, when 5.0beta3 is planned for release, but we are working on it.
 
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Mon May 17, 2010 1:45 pm

Are there any plans to increase the current 2GB ram restriction in v5?

Just wondering as for routers running KVM 2GB isn't much at all to play with.
 
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Mon May 17, 2010 2:04 pm

Are there any plans to increase the current 2GB ram restriction in v5?

Just wondering as for routers running KVM 2GB isn't much at all to play with.
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41284

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Mon May 17, 2010 3:08 pm

omega-00, as stated on the topic, currently we have no plans for it (but it might change in the future).
 
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Mon May 17, 2010 7:55 pm

Hi guys

I work with mikrotik version 3.30, is very good but, upgrad for version 5.0 beta, my clients are with high ping and cards with low trafic.

That I know a version is beta but, after that configuring my cards with parameters of distance as connection the my clients were very bad.

I need of configuration of distance, to not use more ack-timeout

sorry for my english.

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Mon May 17, 2010 8:16 pm

Hi

I verify that in version 5.0 was removed the argument "comment" of export command.

would be great if was removed too of arguments:
radio-name
interface-name
mac-adress

because with the import command could be used in any hardwares or could make the exchange the hardware in some problem.

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Tue May 18, 2010 4:25 am

When trying to upgrade RouterOS 4.9 on a XenServer 5.5 VM to RouterOS 5beta2, I get this error message.

21:29:19 system,info verified routeros-x86-5.0beta2.npk
21:29:19 system,info installed routeros-x86-5.0beta2
21:29:19 kvm,error no hardware virtualization support
21:29:19 system,info router rebooted

When the router comes back up it is at 4.9 even though the log states 5.0beta2 was installed.

Also not able to load the RouterOS5beta2 ISO either on XenServer 5.5.

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Tue May 18, 2010 8:58 am

21:29:19 kvm,error no hardware virtualization support
only newest CPUs from AMD support nested virtualization (virtual guest to operate as a host for guest inside it) or just skip KVM package.
 
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Tue May 18, 2010 10:16 pm

I have similar problem like cpelect , but with RB433AH.
When I try to boot it goes to login prompt but then after couple of seconds the router hangs and reboot.
I've tried to netinstall it but (in console) I am getting :
PHY ERROR
trying bootp protocol.......
It looks like when the Ethernet ports should be initialized, it detects some "hardware" malfunction and reboots.
I also uploaded the latest RouterBOOT Booter 2.25 (xmodem), but without improve.
Any suggestions ?
 
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Wed May 19, 2010 8:15 am

I have similar problem like cpelect , but with RB433AH.
When I try to boot it goes to login prompt but then after couple of seconds the router hangs and reboot.
I've tried to netinstall it but (in console) I am getting :
Quote:
PHY ERROR
trying bootp protocol.......


It looks like when the Ethernet ports should be initialized, it detects some "hardware" malfunction and reboots.
I also uploaded the latest RouterBOOT Booter 2.25 (xmodem), but without improve.
Any suggestions ?
DId you get the problem after upgrade?
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Wed May 19, 2010 11:02 am

I have similar problem like cpelect , but with RB433AH.
When I try to boot it goes to login prompt but then after couple of seconds the router hangs and reboot.
I've tried to netinstall it but (in console) I am getting :
Quote:
PHY ERROR
trying bootp protocol.......


It looks like when the Ethernet ports should be initialized, it detects some "hardware" malfunction and reboots.
I also uploaded the latest RouterBOOT Booter 2.25 (xmodem), but without improve.
Any suggestions ?
DId you get the problem after upgrade?
Yes, but not immediately. At first it worked ok, and the problem started after a week with new version.
I was experimenting with wireless settings, and when everything worked as I liked, I've turned off the router for a few days. After few days I've turned it on and then the problem started.

Anyway after couple of hundred restarts somehow I've managed to initialize the ethernet and netinstall 5.0 b2 again.
After the new install there are no problems (till now), but I am still afraid that the problem could be repeated.
 
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Wed May 19, 2010 11:16 am

PHY Error is not related to the used MikroTik RouterOS version.
 
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PHY Error is not related to the used MikroTik RouterOS version.
So you are suggesting that my RB is malfunctioning or it could be in connection with rb fw version?
 
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Wed May 19, 2010 12:04 pm

Perhaps there was a miscommunication between RouterBOARD and Netinstall, when you get such error.
The latest Netinstall should be used on computer and there should not be any firewall rules, which can filter Netinstall traffic.
 
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Wed May 19, 2010 12:18 pm

Perhaps there was a miscommunication between RouterBOARD and Netinstall, when you get such error.
The latest Netinstall should be used on computer and there should not be any firewall rules, which can filter Netinstall traffic.
But the led's on the board didn't lit. So I am sure it is not firewall rule problem.
"PHY error" just arguments my state.
I am worried about the version (os or fw), because right now there is no symptom that there was or there is any physical error.
 
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Wed May 19, 2010 2:58 pm

If it is very important location, you may install 4.9 (which is current stable release).
It would be great you can monitor the device with 5.0beta2 and report to us in case of any problem.
 
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Thu May 20, 2010 9:21 am

Well actually it is a test router :-). I am spending a big time testing every latest version, so I can be sure that it will work well in my environment.
So anyway it's staying on 5.0b2 and I will send any news.
 
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Thu May 20, 2010 9:40 am

Good, that it is test router.
Let us know if you are able to reproduce the problem when router is not responding.
Include steps, configuration that was used to get it, we will see what we can do.
 
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Thu May 20, 2010 7:25 pm

the ppt client seems highly unstable. it frequently disconnects.

i am using 5.0 beta 2 on a 450g to conenct to a isa server 2006 pptp vpn.

4.6 was much more stable, but still it disconnected more often than microsoft vpn client.

how can i debug/improove this?

thanks.


EDIT: i've tracked the problem down and it's my isp that's causing drops. sory for the missinformation.
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Sat May 22, 2010 10:00 am

Question to Microtik..
Are there any plans to support ETSI 7, 14,28 MHz bandwidths? I do understand, that than will appear overlapping channels, but still interested :) Other wise i would be forced to make design changes on modules, which I dont like to do :)
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Question to Microtik..
Are there any plans to support ETSI 7, 14,28 MHz bandwidths? I do understand, that than will appear overlapping channels, but still interested :) Other wise i would be forced to make design changes on modules, which I dont like to do :)
And then you add frequency multiplier and sell mikrotik 10GHz radio link or other frequencies for Czech country :) Its a similar project as Asura 10GHz link ?
 
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Question to Microtik..
Are there any plans to support ETSI 7, 14,28 MHz bandwidths? I do understand, that than will appear overlapping channels, but still interested :) Other wise i would be forced to make design changes on modules, which I dont like to do :)
And then you add frequency multiplier and sell mikrotik 10GHz radio link or other frequencies for Czech country :) Its a similar project as Asura 10GHz link ?
What ever, when ever on desired frequencies, applicants welcomed.. 91mbit single HT both way is not bad at all.. Currently it works 54mbit full duplex or 57 one way TCP. Actually it is Asura successor and works much better with zero PL. First equipment with need of zero fade-out necessary
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Mon May 24, 2010 4:17 pm

I´ll send you a message via ICQ, its interesting for me..
 
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Tue May 25, 2010 8:50 am

PHY ERRor did you get it fixed as i have 6 boards doing it wireless works but not ethernet

looks like hardwer broblem on ethernet poe port has popped

i got this from using poe

now i just use direct power via jack
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Thu May 27, 2010 1:32 am

not much progress coming with the next release :(. I'm anxious to try this on some backhaul links, but don't want to risk a beta version on a critical main backhaul link...
 
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wispwest,
we are adding new features and working hard to fix small problems on the current version.
Currently 4.9 is stable version and you should use it, beta version remains beta version, it is not possible to make it stable right away.
 
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wispwest,
we are adding new features and working hard to fix small problems on the current version.
Currently 4.9 is stable version and you should use it, beta version remains beta version, it is not possible to make it stable right away.
Do you have idea why Dual Nstreme has in Beta version gaps in transmition ? Each 7-10 secends, there is gab for 10ms.. And it packet losses in this time.
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Thu May 27, 2010 11:06 am

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Give us more detailed information, provide screenshots from the router where you have gaps.
 
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Insider,
Give us more detailed information, provide screenshots from the router where you have gaps.
There is small reminder, that this status is under my frequency transvertor embedded and gaps are not 10ms but 100ms - my mistake, I write it under time preassure nad had not time to check what I wrote. It should not to be the cause but for factional conclusion a will make it direct on Atheros frequencies. Give few hours, I have to finish somes and i will supply it by end of the day. I mean there is no way of it can touch ability of Nstreme dual, as it is max linked thruputs maximum thruput of 58mbit in Single HT and 20MHz a second, but there are periodical gaps, which are not lowering connected speed but gives constant 1percent PL
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Thu May 27, 2010 12:42 pm

please try to boost speed for pppoe in next version


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Thu May 27, 2010 12:58 pm

Asus, what kind of boost speed for PPPoE you are talking about?
 
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Thu May 27, 2010 2:28 pm

Install in server from ISO stops and keyboard capslock light just blinks.
What should I do if there is on the server pc (intel server board model: s34420gpv, memory: kingston kvr1333d3n9/2g 2G * 2, hdd: sata2 320Gb, proccessor intel: core i5). how to test my RouterOS 5 beta2, I can not even install?
 
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Thu May 27, 2010 2:59 pm

Can I leave a request to add functionality relating to BGP:
Add ability to install / process community type xxxxx:0.
At this point attempt to put community through WinBox for example 47707:0 said AS: number expected.
 
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Thu May 27, 2010 6:12 pm

wispwest,
we are adding new features and working hard to fix small problems on the current version.
Currently 4.9 is stable version and you should use it, beta version remains beta version, it is not possible to make it stable right away.
Do you have idea why Dual Nstreme has in Beta version gaps in transmition ? Each 7-10 secends, there is gab for 10ms.. And it packet losses in this time.
So, I made a little homework, same problem appears on 4.9 as well (second photo).
What is really stupid, that from one side Board Dual Nstreme works so so, but from second board ping to first board makes 2percent packet loss. All the tests are made on table, where single HT are connected thru 40dB attenuator on cable, so there is no way to get any shit from outside to it.... There is 15 and 0dBm output on side (has no valuability for test)
First pic is from 5.0 Beta2:
It behaves almost same. Period is 5,8 - 6secs. Always missing in burst, sometimes a single package disappears. I have video as well if you like.
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Fri May 28, 2010 2:12 pm

i have the same problem on 4.9

on a 535 board

and 433ah

i upgraded the 535 to v 5.2 beta and problem seemed to stop its been running fro 13 hours now no problems

but ping when from 1ms to 2-5ms

but its stable
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sat May 29, 2010 5:38 pm

Does anyone know if there are plans on manually selecting frequency for Extension Channel? Rather than be forced to only choose "Above" or "Below" control...

This would really come in handy.
 
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Sat May 29, 2010 9:42 pm

Does anyone know if there are plans on manually selecting frequency for Extension Channel? Rather than be forced to only choose "Above" or "Below" control...

This would really come in handy.
This is defined in 802.11n Standard so it would kill compatibility.
Dont know if this could be done with available cards.
 
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Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:43 am

I'v got some strange problems with ssh.

Trying without dsa-key with password - sometimes it work normal, but mostly:
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locks up, and ssh-client give up with timeout
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Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:03 am

Some more info on ssh problem, which i posted above.

Using ssh dsa-key i tried to do export:
$ ssh -i .ssh/xxxxxx_id_dsa xxxxxx@212.0.xx.xx 'export'
xxxxxxx@212.0.xx.xx's password: 
Permission denied, please try again.
xxxxxxx@212.0.xx.xx's password: 
Permission denied, please try again.
xxxxxxx@212.0.xx.xx's password: 
Received disconnect from 212.0.xx.xx: 14: 
Mikrotik log:
14:49:49 ssh,info connection accepted from: 212.0.xx.xx:44533 
14:49:49 ssh,debug transport state: 0 --> 1 
14:49:49 ssh,debug kex algo: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-g
roup1-sha1 
14:49:49 ssh,debug host key algo: ssh-dss,ssh-rsa 
14:49:49 ssh,debug enc algo CS: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arc
four,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes
256-ctr 
14:49:49 ssh,debug enc algo SC: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arc
four,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes
256-ctr 
14:49:49 ssh,debug mac algo CS: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160
@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 
14:49:49 ssh,debug mac algo SC: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160
@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 
14:49:49 ssh,debug comp algo CS: none,zlib 
14:49:49 ssh,debug comp algo SC: none,zlib 
14:49:49 ssh,debug lang CS:  
14:49:49 ssh,debug lang SC:  
14:49:49 ssh,debug packet follows: 0 
14:49:49 ssh,debug agreed on: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1 
14:49:49 ssh,debug agreed on: aes128-cbc 
14:49:49 ssh,debug agreed on: aes128-cbc 
14:49:49 ssh,debug agreed on: hmac-md5 
14:49:49 ssh,debug agreed on: hmac-md5 
14:49:49 ssh,debug agreed on: none 
14:49:49 ssh,debug agreed on: none 
14:49:49 ssh,debug trying DSS file 
14:49:49 ssh,debug DSA key loaded 
14:49:49 ssh,debug trying PEM container.. 
14:49:49 ssh,debug DSA key loaded 
14:49:49 ssh,debug transport state: 1 --> 2 
14:49:49 ssh,debug new key A => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug b711 b3eb 273a f7dd e902 4dc8 6745 ecd5 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 
14:49:49 ssh,debug new key B => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 783c bae6 ea29 9718 457a 758a 3395 bf41 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 
14:49:49 ssh,debug new key C => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 0921 c650 21e0 8c85 c767 e761 fffa be57 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 
14:49:49 ssh,debug new key D => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug e1dc a21f bee8 7c78 16a9 39fa 0be2 0cb3 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 
14:49:49 ssh,debug new key E => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 4ad5 50fe d907 2a00 1d21 f93e 3b8a 8abe 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 
14:49:49 ssh,debug new key F => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 4239 3eb9 2561 9663 718b d747 ed81 0b30 
14:49:49 ssh,debug 
14:49:49 ssh,debug authorization service requested 
14:49:49 ssh,debug auth req: xxxxxx ssh-connection none 
14:49:49 ssh,debug getting user password for: xxxxxxx 
14:49:49 ssh,debug next auth methods: publickey,password 
14:49:49 ssh,debug auth req: xxxxxxx ssh-connection publickey 
14:49:49 ssh,debug auth retry: 1 
14:49:49 ssh,debug getting user password for: xxxxx 
14:49:49 ssh,debug next auth methods: password 
14:49:50 ssh,debug auth req: xxxxxxxx ssh-connection password 
14:49:50 ssh,debug auth retry: 2 
14:49:50 ssh,debug getting user password for: xxxxxx 
14:49:50 ssh,debug auth password failed: invalid user name or password (6) 
14:49:50 ssh,debug next auth methods: password 
14:49:50 ssh,debug auth req: xxxxxxx ssh-connection password 
14:49:50 ssh,debug auth retry: 4 
14:49:50 ssh,debug getting user password for: xxxxxxxx 
14:49:50 ssh,debug auth password failed: invalid user name or password (6) 
14:49:50 ssh,debug next auth methods: password 
14:49:50 ssh,debug auth req: xxxxxxx ssh-connection password 
14:49:50 ssh,debug auth retry: 6 
14:49:50 ssh,debug code 0x0300000e closing.. 
14:49:50 ssh,debug closing port 0 
Now i try to do the same command, with the same key and the same user from another machine:
$ ssh -i .ssh/xxxxxxx_id_dsa xxxxxxx@212.0.xx.xx 'export'
failure: std failure: timeout (13)
before timeout it freezes for a long time...

Mikrotik logs:
14:56:49 ssh,info connection accepted from: 212.0.xx.xx:25564 
14:56:49 ssh,debug transport state: 0 --> 1 
14:56:50 ssh,debug kex algo: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman
-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 
14:56:50 ssh,debug host key algo: ssh-dss,ssh-rsa 
14:56:50 ssh,debug enc algo CS: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arc
four128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se,aes
128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr 
14:56:50 ssh,debug enc algo SC: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arc
four128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se,aes
128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr 
14:56:50 ssh,debug mac algo CS: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,umac-64@openssh.com,hmac-ripe
md160,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 
14:56:50 ssh,debug mac algo SC: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,umac-64@openssh.com,hmac-ripe
md160,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 
14:56:50 ssh,debug comp algo CS: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib 
14:56:50 ssh,debug comp algo SC: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib 
14:56:50 ssh,debug lang CS:  
14:56:50 ssh,debug lang SC:  
14:56:50 ssh,debug packet follows: 0 
14:56:50 ssh,debug agreed on: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256 
14:56:50 ssh,debug agreed on: aes128-cbc 
14:56:50 ssh,debug agreed on: aes128-cbc 
14:56:50 ssh,debug agreed on: hmac-md5 
14:56:50 ssh,debug agreed on: hmac-md5 
14:56:50 ssh,debug agreed on: none 
14:56:50 ssh,debug agreed on: none 
14:56:50 ssh,debug trying DSS file 
14:56:50 ssh,debug DSA key loaded 
14:56:50 ssh,debug trying PEM container.. 
14:56:50 ssh,debug DSA key loaded 
14:56:50 ssh,debug transport state: 1 --> 2 
14:56:50 ssh,debug new key A => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 9534 5619 1d95 927d ea3e 2c79 b32d 9f13 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 
14:56:50 ssh,debug new key B => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug ff94 1495 bccf 5495 d06f 1642 b752 e6d1 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 
14:56:50 ssh,debug new key C => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 6e2d 3948 e323 10f4 ef92 f926 bdc3 d7fd 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 
14:56:50 ssh,debug new key D => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 0d30 84bb 3cfe 0623 12d6 a960 e259 686d 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 
14:56:50 ssh,debug new key E => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 2bad 9718 e353 30e5 fbf5 afe1 544f 08ab 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 
14:56:50 ssh,debug new key F => offset:0 [0x0] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug => size:16 [0x10] 
14:56:50 ssh,debug b64b 2b2e b78a 5fb4 cb3c c041 531f 4d37 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 
14:56:50 ssh,debug authorization service requested 
14:56:50 ssh,debug auth req: xxxxxxxx ssh-connection none 
14:56:50 ssh,debug getting user password for: xxxxxxx 
14:56:50 ssh,debug next auth methods: publickey,password 
14:56:50 ssh,debug auth req: xxxxxxxx ssh-connection publickey 
14:56:50 ssh,debug auth retry: 1 
14:56:50 ssh,debug getting user password for: xxxxxxx 
14:56:50 ssh,debug auth req: xxxxxxxx ssh-connection publickey 
14:56:50 ssh,debug auth retry: 2 
14:56:50 ssh,debug getting user password for: xxxxxxx 
14:56:50 ssh,info publickey accepted for user: xxxxxxx 
14:56:50 ssh,debug getting user password for: xxxxxxx 
14:56:50 ssh,info user xxxxxxx authorized 
14:56:50 ssh,debug transport state: 2 --> 3 
14:56:50 ssh,debug opening channel 0:0 200000,8000 
14:56:50 ssh,error unimplemented: 80 in 4000200 
14:56:50 ssh,debug chan req: exec 1 
14:56:50 ssh,debug cmd: export 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 
14:56:50 system,info,account user xxxxx logged in from 212.0.xx.xx via ssh 
14:56:50 ssh,debug export 
14:56:50 ssh,debug 
14:56:50 ssh,debug cmdExec 
14:56:50 ssh,debug loop=0x7fbcbf94 
PS: BTW, console crash will now be a normal situation? Sorry for offtopic, it is not such critical as ssh for us.
14:42:07 ssh,info connection accepted from: 212.0.xx.xx:36596 
14:42:07 ssh,info publickey accepted for user: xxxxxx
14:42:07 ssh,info user xxxxxx authorized 
14:42:07 ssh,error unimplemented: 80 in 4000200 
14:42:07 system,info,account user xxxxxx logged in from 212.0.xx.xx via ssh 

admin@MikroTik-21-1 > 
Console has crashed; please log in again.
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:32 am

1. Logitech wireless USB keybord do not work. (I've tried two different keyboards)
2. Does not show host IP if host is inaccessible
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:34 am

what makes you think it should work? wireless keyboards need some sort of driver for the transmitter dongle
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:14 pm

what makes you think it should work? wireless keyboards need some sort of driver for the transmitter dongle
It can be very useful for x86 platforms.
 
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:28 pm

what makes you think it should work? wireless keyboards need some sort of driver for the transmitter dongle
It can be very useful for x86 platforms.
:shock: First implement Soundblaster-Driver. I want a quadrophonic Star-Trek sound
when wlan thruput crosses Lightspeed (100Mbit). :)
 
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:37 pm

:shock: First implement Soundblaster-Driver. I want a quadrophonic Star-Trek sound
when wlan thruput crosses Lightspeed (100Mbit). :)
What so funny? 60-70% of keyboards and mouses use wireless. Sometimes it just small USB stick and keyboard/mouse.
Once againe - it's very useful.
 
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:43 pm

no matter how small that thing is, it needs driver.
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:07 pm

no matter how small that thing is, it needs driver.
OK, I get it . :wink:
It's just a question - Are you going to support it?
Do you think it's can be useful?
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:08 pm

sorry, we have no plans to add wireless keyboard drivers. there is just too many wireless keyboards, and usb keyboards are much cheaper and generally available anywhere.
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Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:00 pm

a wireless keyboard does not need a driver. it should look just like any other keyboard. how to you think you can get into bios - use dos, linux, etc. its just another ps2 or usb keyboard. if it requires a driver its a POS.
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:05 am

normis, could you please answer something to me about ssh?
i'm afraid, it may be not the bug, but some misconfiguration on our side.
 
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:59 am

:shock: First implement Soundblaster-Driver. I want a quadrophonic Star-Trek sound
when wlan thruput crosses Lightspeed (100Mbit). :)
What so funny? 60-70% of keyboards and mouses use wireless. Sometimes it just small USB stick and keyboard/mouse.
Once againe - it's very useful.
Very useful for people snarfing your passwords over the airwaves.

Wireless keyboards and mice have no business in IT environments.

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about SSH, please email this to support
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:53 pm

I upgraded a 450g to 5.0beta2.
Then downgraded to 4.8 and the ppp; dhcp package are missing and it won't reboot for downgrade from inside winbox now.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:06 pm

*) dhcp server - fixed possible inactive dhcp server in case of many
dhcp leases with address-pool enabled;
How many leases is "many"?
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:09 pm

ROS 5.0beta2 bugs and confuses met
1. Manual --> PDF version not response to download or load refman2.9.pdf
where did you see a PDF link in RouterOS?

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Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:11 pm

Maybe finally need to upgrade :)?
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Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:03 pm

sorry, I tested it with brand new routerboard, but maybe winbox was old
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:08 pm

BTW, any ETA for beta3?
 
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:10 pm

beta 3 is expected this week, if no showstopper issue is discovered.
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Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:20 pm

OoOOoo a new beta soon :)

Sorry I am a bit late with this comment below.
:shock: First implement Soundblaster-Driver. I want a quadrophonic Star-Trek sound
when wlan thruput crosses Lightspeed (100Mbit). :)
Wow... Quadraphonic. A Quad Soundblaster driver should be standard in all versions. Make sure its in the next Beta release. This is critical..
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:08 pm

OoOOoo a new beta soon :)

Sorry I am a bit late with this comment below.
:shock: First implement Soundblaster-Driver. I want a quadrophonic Star-Trek sound
when wlan thruput crosses Lightspeed (100Mbit). :)
Wow... Quadraphonic. A Quad Soundblaster driver should be standard in all versions. Make sure its in the next Beta release. This is critical..

Also, if there is any left over time after the soundblaster feature maybe fix the issue with the obscure, little used Ubiquiti SR71-15 card.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:46 am

Maybe finally need to upgrade :)?
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I have the same situation with manual home page on my ROS 4.x & Winbox 2.2.16.
Then I push "Manual" button , I always forwarded to "http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/2.9/"

What I should to upgrade?
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:53 am

not v4.x but better v4.10 as it was changed during one of the last updates
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Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:04 pm

yeah, 'Manual' link depends on ROS version, not WinBox version
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:50 am

A common misconception is that Winbox has a version at all. Actually not, all Winbox files are loaded from the RouterOS device (Loading plugins...). The loader might change versions from time to time, but it only affects the loader (where you enter the IP or MAC).
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Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:14 pm

normis was right - routerboard was upgraded to 4.10 and Manual link works fine.
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:24 pm

*) added support for hardware watchdog on RB1000 & RB800;
Does this mean versions 3.x and 4.x do not have support for the hardware watchdog on the RB1000?
 
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Re: MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta2 released!

Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:43 am

Some more info on ssh problem, which i posted above.

Using ssh dsa-key i tried to do export:
$ ssh -i .ssh/xxxxxx_id_dsa xxxxxx@212.0.xx.xx 'export'
xxxxxxx@212.0.xx.xx's password: 
Permission denied, please try again.
xxxxxxx@212.0.xx.xx's password: 
Permission denied, please try again.
xxxxxxx@212.0.xx.xx's password: 
Received disconnect from 212.0.xx.xx: 14: 
I had the same problem after upgrading to 5.0rc8. I checked with
/user ssh-keys print
and found that no keys where listed

What I did was copy the pub file to the router from another host and import it:
  scp id_dsa.pub admin@router:.
  ssh admin@router
  /user ssh-keys import file=id_dsa.pub user=admin
  /user ssh-keys print

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