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Performance with wireless-test vs 2.8.28

Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:05 am

I'm not sure if this is a fluke but everytime I've done testing with the new wireless-test package, I get TCP/UDP like these:

5mhz: 5Mbps/7Mbps
10mhz: 15Mbps/18Mbps
20mhz (standard): 26Mbps/37Mbps
40mhz (turbo): 27Mbps/52Mbps

I'm guessing I'm maxxing out the same-unit bandwidth test (WRAP boards) on turbo, I haven't had a chance to really get a test done that's using other boards. I have a couple RB 512's coming in next week I want to try it with, but that's some awesome throughput for a WRAP board - although I haven't test like this since 2.8.28... Are these normal sounding numbers, or more because of 2.9 than the new package?
 
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:13 am

20mhz (standard): 26Mbps/37Mbps
This is faster than 2.8.28 on WRAP from my experiences...very nice :)
 
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Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:51 am

I tried using 2.9.8 with the standard wireless (not wireless-test), on a similar config, both WRAP boards, except at a distance of about 3.5 miles. I was able to get about 18Mbps TCP, 25-28Mbps UDP, with NStreme enabled. It's an active, important backhaul, so I'm not willing to go to wireless-test yet, but whatever they did in Wireless-Test, it is a lot more efficient than the standard 2.9.x wireless.
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:06 pm

Can you give me a quick outline as to how you install MT on a WRAP board?
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:02 pm

Some simple steps will do, but there ARE some caveats ;)

- Insert the CF card into a card reader in your Windows PC.
- Install MikroTik RouterOS onto that CF card using the netinstall program.
- DO INCLUDE the routerboard package! (Otherwise RouterOS will NOT really reboot later if you issue a reboot command!)
- Put the CF card into the WRAP board, boot up. After RouterOS finished installing itself it is trying to reboot - but won't (!) succeed this first time. You have to manually reboot by removing power to the WRAP board for some seconds here.
- After that you have a running RouterOS install on the WRAP board.

Most people telling they couldn't get RouterOS running on a WRAP board tend to have problems with the serial port settings. There are two "things" taking control over the serial port on a WRAP board when booting:
1. The WRAP BIOS during the first boot stage. This has a default baud rate of 38.400 bit/s.
2. The RouterOS serial console (after RouterOS has booted). This has a default baud rate of 9.600 bit/s.

So you either have to
- switch baud rate in your terminal program at the right time or
- make both parts use the same baud rate (more sensible).

You can change the serial port baud rate in RouterOS, but when issuing a "system reset" command (thereby erasing all config in it), it's revert to 9.600 bit/s.
So my suggestion is to set the baud rate of the WRAP BIOS to 9.600 bit/s, too. If you only use the serial console for first config steps (activating interfaces, adding ip addresses) and do the rest via ssh/WinBox, this won't hurt much...

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PS: Yes, I know - this should go into the Wiki... If time permits...
 
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Re: Performance with wireless-test vs 2.8.28

Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:09 pm

I'm not sure if this is a fluke but everytime I've done testing with the new wireless-test package, I get TCP/UDP like these:

5mhz: 5Mbps/7Mbps
10mhz: 15Mbps/18Mbps
20mhz (standard): 26Mbps/37Mbps
40mhz (turbo): 27Mbps/52Mbps

I'm guessing I'm maxxing out the same-unit bandwidth test (WRAP boards) on turbo, I haven't had a chance to really get a test done that's using other boards. I have a couple RB 512's coming in next week I want to try it with, but that's some awesome throughput for a WRAP board - although I haven't test like this since 2.8.28... Are these normal sounding numbers, or more because of 2.9 than the new package?
Are these with or without N-Streme?
 
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:10 am

Those #'s were very similar with and without NStreme. I posted another one with both sets of #'s on the Wireless forum. I have a set of RB512's now that I'm baselining with the 2.9.8 regular package first, and in a few days I'm going to run external speed tests on it.
 
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:07 pm

Some simple steps will do, but there ARE some caveats ;)
Have you tried this process with any of the 2.9 releases? I cannot get past "Starting services..." when installing 2.9.10 on a WRAP but with 2.8.28 there are no problems at all. I am woundering if it is to do with the brand of flash card (biwin) but unfortunately I have no other brands here to try.
 
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:57 pm

Those #'s were very similar with and without NStreme. I posted another one with both sets of #'s on the Wireless forum. I have a set of RB512's now that I'm baselining with the 2.9.8 regular package first, and in a few days I'm going to run external speed tests on it.
Have you had a chance to run those tests? I'm working on deploying RB5xx based gear so I can do N-Streme.
 
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:03 pm

Last time I did this with 2.9.10 only some hours ago. This is on a WRAP.2C (the smaller one, 1 ether, 2 MiniPCI.
Everything works normally and as I described (if you take the required manual reboot during install as normal, that is)...

Best regards,
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:15 pm

Also using 2C and following your instructions (including the manual reboot) but no joy. I'm pretty sure it's the hyperstone flash card to be honest :(
 
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 3:10 am

When will be added support in winbox for the wireless-test package ??
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:08 pm

When will be added support in winbox for the wireless-test package ??
Never. The package just becomes 'wireless' without '-test' after some time.
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:45 pm

Never. The package just becomes 'wireless' without '-test' after some time.
Yes... :P It becomes a regular package
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Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:44 pm

Last time I did this with 2.9.10 only some hours ago. This is on a WRAP.2C (the smaller one, 1 ether, 2 MiniPCI.
Everything works normally and as I described (if you take the required manual reboot during install as normal, that is)...
FYI The problem I was having trying to run 2.9.10 on a WRAP.2C was some how related to the console cable I was using. Tried a different cable and worked fine. swapped cable back and again could not get a login prompt.

I am seeing similar fast speeds on the WRAP platform. Is there are technical reason why there is such an improvement? I heard there was a letency issue with the old driver that was resolved in this one. Is that the reason for the improvement?
 
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Re: Performance with wireless-test vs 2.8.28

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:17 pm

I have a couple RB 512's coming in next week I want to try it with, but that's some awesome throughput for a WRAP board
Did you test this with the RB512's? If so, could you post your results?

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