http://mum.mikrotik.com

Europe MUM 2012 will take place in Warsaw, Poland, March 15-16.

The following training classes will take place before the MUM (separate registration and price). Training will be organized by our official Training Partners. More info on our training site.

MTCNA (English)- router.lv (Andis Arins)
MTCWE (English)- Nest Wireless (Ron Touw)
MTCRE (English)- MD Brazil (Wardner Maia)
MTCTCE (English)- SysData&Citraweb (Jaromir Cihak & Valens Riyadi)
MTCUME (English) - Grifonline (Lorenzo Busatti)
MTCINE (English) -MikroTik (Maris Bulans)
Train-the-Trainer (English)- MikroTik (Janis Megis)
MTCNA (Polish) -Technologic (Pawel Cieplinski)
MTCRE (German) - FMS (Sebastian Inacker)

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yahooo! free access to Aquapark!

yahooo! free access to Aquapark!

make a presentation this time maybe?

yahooo! free access to Aquapark!

make a presentation this time maybe?

sorry, still don't have a topic

Pavel wants to make a presentation of the aquapark.

normis, it's possible to get a guide to go/return to the center from/to the hotel. It's at 15km of the city center.. I'm thinking on take a hotel in the center and go each morning to the hotel. Do you have this info from the hotel staff?


thanks.

Right next to the conference are a few hotels for 100PLN a day (veeeery cheap) and right next to it is also a train station which goes to the city. Google maps power.

Looks like the train goes every 20 minutes and takes around 30 minutes to travel:

Awesome!

Thanks!

See you in Warsaw, Martin!

Lorenzo

Sure!

I saw your training ; )

Maybe I will make presentation? ;)

I have updated the MUM page with alternative hotels in the area, and with the train details

Welcome cocktail will be held the evening before MUM (March 14, from 6.00PM)

Damn. Flight doesn't land until 1900 so it'll be at least 2030 by the time I get to the hotel.

No problem, Chupaka and me will pick up your beer. Look for us when you arrive. We will wear a Mikrotik T-shirt, but I don't know the colour right now.

Like other 700ppl wearing Mikrotik shirt? Nice hint!

Presentation saved. Let's hope that will get selected ;)

No problem, Chupaka and me will pick up your beer. Look for us when you arrive. We will wear a Mikrotik T-shirt, but I don't know the colour right now.

Nice idea, but do you really think that NAB will get that beer after it is in your hands for more than a few minutes?!

See you at the MUM, I would buy you a beer, but I heard that some company is giving them away free!

Nest! I want your free beer too! : D!

Right next to the conference are a few hotels for 100PLN a day (veeeery cheap) and right next to it is also a train station which goes to the city. Google maps power.

Looks like the train goes every 20 minutes and takes around 30 minutes to travel:

http://f.cl.ly/items/1e1d2o3H1h2l0W281R ... 5%20PM.png

From Warszawa Srodmiescie (just a few steps from Central Station) you have direct train connections to Ozarow.

You can also check connection on http://warszawa.jakdojade.pl/?locale=en - including public transport (e.g. from airport).

From Warszawa Srodmiescie (just a few steps from Central Station) you have direct train connections to Ozarow.

I thought the "Centralna" was also a direct train, no?

Look for us when you arrive. We will wear a Mikrotik T-shirt, but I don't know the colour right now.

haha, I doubt my hairstyle will be changed until MUM xD

He will find you too easy!

From Warszawa Srodmiescie (just a few steps from Central Station) you have direct train connections to Ozarow.

I thought the "Centralna" was also a direct train, no?

Nope, on your screen there is 1 "przes." which means change (try to change language to En on train site). From Centralna, the system suggest you to change the train on Warszawa Zachodnia (click: 'more details of selected connections' / 'Pokaz szczegolowo wybrane polaczenia' [black button on bottom, left side )

Centralna Station is more for long distance connections, and Srodmiescie is for regional connections. However, Srodmiescie and Centralna are almost the same station - you can walk from Centralna platforms to Srodmiescie platform without leaving underground corridors.


http://wikimapia.org/#lat=52.2287326&lo ... 17&l=0&m=b
but be aware: there is WKD Warszawa Srodmiescie (on West) and PKP Warszawa Srodmiescie (on East). Use the second one. From WKD you won't get to the Ozarow Mazowiecki.

Thanks! I also updated the MUM site with "Warszawa Srodmiescie"

Dear All,

Any one know how to get the formal invitation (from host in Poland,) for this MuM, registered by local authorities (official invitation) due to get a permit visa in my country.
Thanks.

I'm coming to this Europe MUM, it's a long way so I will be making sure I see a bit more of the city than I have on previous MUM trips.

If anyone is keen for some sight seeing after the MUM I am staying until the 20th and it's always better to have an adventure with more people!

nz, we will stay a week. It depends on the flights.. But usually we go 1 day before the training and leave one day after the mum. But.. During the training and mum we are visiting all the citys! Don't care, a lot of nice people in the Mum! See you there!

I'm coming to this Europe MUM, it's a long way so I will be making sure I see a bit more of the city than I have on previous MUM trips.

If anyone is keen for some sight seeing after the MUM I am staying until the 20th and it's always better to have an adventure with more people!

If you have a few extra days, you can go to Poznan, Krakow (if you've never been there) or to Gdansk. Warsaw itself is not the star-attraction of Poland in my opinion.

Dear All,

Any one know how to get the formal invitation (from host in Poland,) for this MuM, registered by local authorities (official invitation) due to get a permit visa in my country.
Thanks.

according to your profile, your country is behind firewall - it won't pass any invitations

here in Belarus, I just book the hotel and buy train/plane tickets - that was enough for visas in Czech'09/Hungary'11 embassy (just printed booking page was enough, at least for Czech) and Poland'10 (I had to receive booking confirmation from hotel by fax; yes that was virtual fax, that I then printed )

Dear All,

Any one know how to get the formal invitation (from host in Poland,) for this MuM, registered by local authorities (official invitation) due to get a permit visa in my country.
Thanks.

according to your profile, your country is behind firewall - it won't pass any invitations

here in Belarus, I just book the hotel and buy train/plane tickets - that was enough for visas in Czech'09/Hungary'11 embassy (just printed booking page was enough, at least for Czech) and Poland'10 (I had to receive booking confirmation from hotel by fax; yes that was virtual fax, that I then printed )

Thanks Chupaka, I had confirmed with Poland embassy in my country (Indonesia) & you are true, invitation letter needed if only in business visa. I also had book the plane & hotel with credit card and print it as conpleted document visa request.
Hope that will be approved.
See u there

Anyone else having trouble sending email to the hotel ?

I've tried from several different places and they don't seem to receive the emails.


Nick.

Nick

They are getting my emails, just not answering them very fast! They are VERY slow to respond. I have waited already two weeks, still have not got a price from them for the training room! I managed to get a very sincerely written apology at one point and a promise to get back to me quickly. but..... Zzzzzzzzz

I'm coming to this Europe MUM, it's a long way so I will be making sure I see a bit more of the city than I have on previous MUM trips.

If anyone is keen for some sight seeing after the MUM I am staying until the 20th and it's always better to have an adventure with more people!

If you have a few extra days, you can go to Poznan, Krakow (if you've never been there) or to Gdansk. Warsaw itself is not the star-attraction of Poland in my opinion.

Thanks for the great suggestions Normunds, I have been all over Asia but never to Europe so it will all be new to me.

I'm coming to this Europe MUM, it's a long way so I will be making sure I see a bit more of the city than I have on previous MUM trips.

If anyone is keen for some sight seeing after the MUM I am staying until the 20th and it's always better to have an adventure with more people!

If you have a few extra days, you can go to Poznan, Krakow (if you've never been there) or to Gdansk. Warsaw itself is not the star-attraction of Poland in my opinion.

Thanks for the great suggestions Normunds, I have been all over Asia but never to Europe so it will all be new to me.

That's true. However trip to Gdansk can be a veeeeery long - over 6 hours - you can go a lot of faster to Krakow or Poznan or even Berlin via train. Warsaw in March 2012 won't have highway
However, you can go from Warsaw to Gdansk or Wroclaw by plane, with very attractive prices -> http://www.oltjetair.com (or national operator - LOT.com ). You can also try cheap flights with wizzair to other European cities.

And two things about getting to Ozarow: this is suburbs of Warsaw, so the only way to get there is the regional train (Koleje Mazowieckie - green/white/yellow painting) or Taxi. Be aware of "Przewoz osob" (unlicensed taxi's - usually marked by yellow-black chessboard) - some of those are not fair - you can be charged over 10x more than taxi.

As i mentioned above: you can check local connections on jakdojade.pl (you can switch to english version).

We have published an extensive travel guide on the MUM site now, based on actual experience there, I hope you all find it useful:

http://mum.mikrotik.com/2012/PL/accomodation

Couple of things...

1 - I land Warsaw at 1910 on the 14th. Is there anybody landing about then who wants to share a taxi?

2 - I'm going to spend the Saturday having a looksee around Warsaw (specifically the Gestapo HQ museum and probably then a wander around the shops), but if somebody wants to meet up on Saturday evening for beers/food, I'm up for that.

specifically the Gestapo HQ museum

There are times when I think I should be worried about you Nick.

Hi,

Below is a link to Tourist Portal of Warsaw, hope you find it useful:
http://www.warsawtour.pl/en
If you plan to stay in Poland for few days visit Krakow city (http://www.krakow.pl/english/)
and Wieliczka Salt Mine (http://www.kopalnia.pl).
As Normis wrote earlier Gdansk and Poznan are also worth visiting.

Regards,

visit Krakow city (http://www.krakow.pl/english/)
and Wieliczka Salt Mine (http://www.kopalnia.pl).

I completely agree! Both excellent locations to visit. Despite being many hundred feet below the surface, inside this salt mine my phone signal was still 100%!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35916008@N ... 858340471/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35916008@N ... 858340471/

what is THAT ?

We have published an extensive travel guide on the MUM site now

Excellent. Thank you. Just out of interest, what does

enter at your own risk

mean in the sentence:

There are also couple of bars nearby (enter at your own risk).

1 - We haven't checked them,
2 - This area is known for violence/prostitution/crimes etc., or
3 - These are nasty bars and we wouldn't recommend you set foot in them without your personal army?

we did check them, but only once, and can't guarantee what kind of people frequent them at other days no special reason apart that it's a cheap bar in a quiet suburb

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35916008@N ... 858340471/

what is THAT ?

A photo of my mobile phone while I was a few hundred feet below the surface inside the Salt Mines with full signal and connected to phone network! Of course, there are MT staff who take some much more interesting photos while at MUM

The following training classes will take place before the MUM (separate registration and price).

MTCWE (English)- Nest Wireless (Ron Touw)

Really looking forward to the MTCWE http://www.nestwireless.co.uk/ Ron !

Nick

Really looking forward to the MTCWE http://www.nestwireless.co.uk/ Ron !
Nick

The things you'll try to get a discount! Thanks anyway.

I want to request for the tshirt design



I thing the brown color has never been used before

Pink one xD

I paid for the training right now with Maia x)

pink ?????

OK, let's join in with the game!
Colours used so far that I know...


unused colours (so far as I know)?

Then of course, Mikrotik can also always change the colour of the writing colour, white, black, gold, whatever! Or change the supplier they buy from. So I think I am not going to start any lottery on what the new T Shirts are going to look like! Just go to MUM and enjoy meeting old friends and new

Edited as a result of feedback

unused colours (so far as I know)?

This has been used in Wroklaw 2 Years ago

two colors you missed:
http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/US11/ ... 2.jpg.html

http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/EG07/ ... 4.jpg.html
(this is not yellow, it's pale green)

two colors you missed:
http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/US11/ ... 2.jpg.html

I discounted this one as it did not appear to me to be from Mikrotik. I have included it in the "Mikrotik MUM T Shirt Lotto colour chart"!

http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/EG07/ ... 4.jpg.html
(this is not yellow, it's pale green)

I am not able to find any Fruit of the Loom shirt made in this colour. You sure they didn't get washed at the wrong temperature before handing them out?

The stupid ideas I get myself dragged into!

no no, it's a real mum shirt: http://mum.mikrotik.com/gallery/v/US11/ ... 5.jpg.html

Fruit of the Loom

eh? each MUM gets their shirts made elsewhere.

Re: Fruit of the Loom "eh? each MUM gets their shirts made elsewhere."
Because when I looked at T shirts I had from previous MUMs, they were all from that supplier! But I understand that maybe like bad capacitors, you got a bad lot and switched suppliers.

This year I will be at: MTCRE (English)- MD Brazil (Wardner Maia). ; D!

Can't currently register for the MuM

Error is:
Currently we could not check your VAT validity due to technical reasons with EU VIES VAT validation service. Please try again later.

We noticed that VIES had a problem yesterday. Looks like they broke it.

Any chance we can get past this ?

Nick

Can't currently register for the MuM

Error is:
Currently we could not check your VAT validity due to technical reasons with EU VIES VAT validation service. Please try again later.

We noticed that VIES had a problem yesterday. Looks like they broke it.

Any chance we can get past this ?

Nick

we have contacted VIES and they are working on it. This is global VIES DB issue.

the only workaround is to register for free, and before that - remove the VAT number from your mikrotik.com account. after registering, put the number back, so that licenses don't get charged for VAt.

another workaround is to use option B when registering for MUM (not logging in).

so register now, and upgrade to paid later ?

PayPal redirection is not working either.

PayPal redirection is not working either.

works fine if you are not in the EU. as EU VAT check is down, so no paid registration is working, including paypal. use free registration and upgrade later.

I'm ready to drink a beer on the mazurkas Bar

See you in warsaw

João

I've now arrived and can report some potentially useful info...

When you come into the foyer of the Airport on your way to outside, you will be approached by a large number of taxi drivers asking for your business. I was warned that you can't guarantee these are genuine licensed and insured taxi drivers. So I politely refused and got one from the rank outside. There were a long line of taxis and as one leaves plenty more arrive so there does not seem to be any need to pre-book.

The taxi cost to the Hotel was 77.60PLN (about 19 Euro). So if a few of you share, you could even just pay a few euro each. Why bother with trains and buses at that price?

The driver said he understood English very well, but when I gave him the name of the hotel, he said he had never heard of it! I then gave him the whole postal address, to which he replied "ah... is not in Warsaw, is outside Warsaw, OK, I take..." So be aware that you can't guarantee that just stating the Hotel name will get you a driver that has heard of it!

Anyway, the journey took about 30 minutes from the Airport and the hotel looks very good quality so far. Full RECCE tomorrow!

TV channels are all Polish and a couple of German channels (oh and a CNBC channel with no audio). Looks like I shall be relying on my private VPN server with a UK IP and watching the BBC on the internet then.

The internet is provided by multiple stand alone APs around the Hotel, each one with a different SSID. So as you walk around, you have to add each SSID into your phone. Someone needs to explain to them how to manage an indoors wireless network properly

Speed? With a quiet very empty hotel... I'm getting, wait for this... 2MB/s. I really hope this is due to a very clever PCQ based bandwidth sharing system as when it gets to nearly 1000 geeks all trying to get the internet at the same time, this internet feed is going to fall over!

If any other people are here already - want to meet?

Hi

Some useful informations:

In the back side of the Mazurkas has a Train Station, and i used today to go visit Warsaw.

First step: buy a ticket on a old building near the train station before you pass to the middle side, there has a stairs to pass the train lines...

The ticket for 2 ways, cost ~8zl and the trip was really nice, and take +/- 20min.

Destination: Dworzec Centralny or Warszawa Centralna (Warsaw Central)

To come back to the Mazurkas Hotel is what i call a really good adventure...

First you need to enter on the right Train , there a place in middle of the trip called (Warszawa Zachodnia Station) that have many connections to other lines , if you enter on a worng train go back to that station.

You need to get a train for that directions
Blonie
Sochaczew
Lowicz Glowny
Kutno
Plock

But don´t forget to get out of the train on Ozarow Mazowiecki.

See you on Warsaw
João

I've now arrived and can report some potentially useful info...

But what we all really want to know is... What is the water park like?

See you late Wednesday.

I've now arrived and can report some potentially useful info...

But what we all really want to know is... What is the water park like?

See you late Wednesday.

In the reception they said that is a simple pool at 300 meters of the hotel.

I've now arrived and can report some potentially useful info...

But what we all really want to know is... What is the water park like?

See you late Wednesday.

In the reception they said that is a simple pool at 300 meters of the hotel.

not only pool- there is also water slides, jakuzzi etc.- go and check it out! Ask for voucher at reception. Tip- towels are not provided, so take ones from hotel room!

Also, from tomorrow 18.00 there will be bar opened at Mazurek room (floor -1) with pool table, darts, table soccer etc. See you there!

not only pool- there is also water slides, jakuzzi etc.- go and check it out! Ask for voucher at reception. Tip- towels are not provided, so take ones from hotel room!

Also, from tomorrow 18.00 there will be bar opened at Mazurek room (floor -1) with pool table, darts, table soccer etc. See you there!

The aquapark it´s only a poll, the water slides are closed....

See you on the bar

João

where's online translation from the meet'n'greet? =) I'll drink a beer with you at least virtually

and for those who really can't wait any longer to find out the colour of the shirts... It's like this one


There are two types of shirt, one with routerboard, one with Mikrotik logos. If you are really lucky, you might even be able to get both!

And of course you'll all be wondering.... the free Routerboard? RB751G AND the 5GHz Groove!

http://tiktube.com/?live=live - here you are

aaaaa!!! who switched off the camera?..

did I guess correctly?..

Chupaka, your guess is absolutely correct!

Omg, Sergejs! it's first time over the last three years when I had a chance to shake my counrtyman's hand in MT, and I'm absent on the MUM %-(

I hope Normis will assure recording of the MUM presentations in the morning, so I can see them after my work ))

Please check the microphone audio this time. At the Vegas MUM, it seemed as if the audio was coming from a distant microphone and was difficult to understand. PLEASE...

Thanks,

-tp

also, maybe there's some chance to increase the resolution of the camera? now it's impossible to see small texts on the slides...

Hi,
Can you turn up the camera, it view only the half of the projector screen.
thanks
ron

Hi,
Can you turn up the camera, it view only the half of the projector screen.
thanks
ron

done!

Camera view is fixed, slides are clearly visible.

There is repeatly some noise in live presentation by web, is possible correct it?

And i have a little idea. It should be good add agenda list below video on tiktube for opening single page with video and agenda

Hey, thank you for awesome MUM and gifts
will it be possible to see slides that were used for presentations any where online ?
or maby videos?

... I wonder if I would be still possible to get T-shirts with MUM Poland 2012?

... I wonder if I would be still possible to get T-shirts with MUM Poland 2012?

I'm interested too.

maybe some have been left unneeded

I'm back home safe and sound after a great few days away.

I would like to thank Mikrotik for putting together a great conference with some interesting and informative presentations. I would also like to thank Mikrotik for the two free routers.

I had a great time, met some nice people, renewed acquaintances and got to see a little more of Poland.

Thank you again.

Thanks, Nick!

No T-shirts were left, we had a big crowd. Videos of presentations will be on the site in the end of the week, as will the PDF files.

Hi everybody,
I've really enjoyed time spent in Poland MUM. Every single day was a surprise. Especially the first 3 days (for the Training The Trainer course)...
I'm very happy to have meet Normis and the other guys (Janis and Sergejs in primis).

Is there some way to see most of the pictures taken from Janis? In the picture gallery there are only 29 pictures...

Thanks in advance!!

PS: Normis, can you please add my user to the trainers topic? Thanks!

Janis will add his pictures later this week, I will also have some more pictures.

To come back to the Mazurkas Hotel is what i call a really good adventure...

I printed out your instructions and I'm really glad I did - It seems that the timetables in Warsaw don't show the stations the train stops at, just their final destinations. This means you have to have intimate knowledge of the transport system before you can use it effectively. Ah well, I found a train to Lowicz Glowny and it did stop at the correct station.

As you said, a good adventure!!

Thank you for the advice!