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Open Flow

Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:28 am

Greetings,

Was just reading the news the other day and came across a few new things with Open Flow. I know this was mentioned somewhere here before, but cannot locate the post. Thinking it may be a good time to start thinking about adding this capability. Here are a bunch of articles and information about it.

Main Web Site
http://www.openflow.org/
http://twitter.com/#!/openflow

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenFlow

Going With the Flow: Google’s Secret Switch to the Next Wave of Networking
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/20 ... ogle/all/1

Open Networking Summit, Day 2
http://blogs.cisco.com/tag/openflow/

Open Networking Foundation
https://www.opennetworking.org/

Next-Gen Network Drumbeats: Going With the OpenFlow
http://www.wired.com/cloudline/2012/04/openflow/

How OpenFlow and SDNs can solve consumers’ broadband woes
http://gigaom.com/broadband/how-openflo ... band-woes/

Mininet: rapid prototyping for software defined networks
http://yuba.stanford.edu/foswiki/bin/vi ... ow/Mininet

Open Flow Hub
http://www.openflowhub.org/display/Home/OpenFlowHub

OpenFlow Nascent But Making Solid Progress
http://www.networkcomputing.com/next-ge ... /232602387

OpenFlow/Software-Defined Networking (SDN)
http://opennetsummit.org/why.html

Juniper Networks Delivers OpenFlow Application to Enable Network Programmability & Flexibility for Customers
http://newsroom.juniper.net/press-relea ... pr-0813497

The Big Switch to OpenFlow
http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2012041700341OSNT

IBM and NEC Team Up to Enable Industry Innovators Tervela and Selerity to Transform their Networks with OpenFlow
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/press ... /36566.wss

Just some interesting info/sw
http://www.rob-sherwood.net/

RouteFlow Project
http://sites.google.com/site/routeflow/

OpenFlow: Does It Matter?
http://www.nojitter.com/post/232700128/ ... -it-matter
 
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Re: Open Flow

Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:43 am

Lots of people reading and no comments. I see this as a very useful traffic engineering tool.
 
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Re: Open Flow

Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:33 pm

I think fine-grained traffic engineering is only one potential application.

A number of use cases and value propositions have been discussed last week in ONS:
See sample discussions: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/80376

May be the most eye-opening announcement for the networking community is Google unveiling that 100% of their inter-datacenter backbone traffic is running in an OpenFlow-based architecture with Quagga routing engines running in external controller servers:
http://www.convergedigest.com/Bandwidth ... p?ID=35604
http://www.networkworld.com/community/b ... ing-part-1

That it is, OpenFlow/SDN can potentially simplify router designs and enable new distributed control planes (and distributed routers) merging together the flexibility and user control of open-source routing/control stacks and the line-rate performance of HW devices.
 
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Re: Open Flow

Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:37 pm

Thought there would be more response to this. More and more hardware vendors are adding these features to their switches and routers. Don't think we should sit by the sidelines as this new infrastructure management is being adopted by all the big guys.
 
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Re: Open Flow

Sun May 27, 2012 11:09 pm

I made this same request long ago. See thread: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=48942

Good luck. =/
 
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Re: Open Flow

Tue May 29, 2012 3:21 am

I know, seen your post before. Things have moved along quite quickly since then with manufacturers adopting the standard. Looks really interesting, interesting enough for Google to adopt using it.
 
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Re: Open Flow

Wed May 30, 2012 1:30 am

I'm just not seeing MikroTik implementing this. It doesn't seem likely. Why? Remember how long it took them to put together a mature v6 stack? Yep. Don't get me wrong, I really like the idea of separating control and forwarding planes - makes for much more modularity and control. The best bet for MK would be to implement them in separate products. A cheap, fast, dumb forwarding plane; and separate software suite for control plane. In other words - OpenFlow-only hardware. It's making me drool just thinking about it.

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Re: Open Flow

Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:55 am

Actually the way of putting services onto a providers OR datacenter network will be done with OpenFlow or similar technology in the future. This is 100% the future and everyone is behind this.

MikroTik are too often criticized for the quality of the software, even if it is not perfect - it is still a miracle for this world so it still has huge value (higher than you expect).

If MikroTik were to invest in OpenFlow that would need to happen by means of recruiting crazy-good software engineers that work in a very organized and efficient way that allows for 100% perfect software (with no bugs) to be delivered to market extremely fast.

An SDN is defined to allow "Apps" to run ontop of it that would allow us to put, for example, experimental protocols and basically - everything that you can imagine - on the network, without interfering with customers traffic (other "Apps" on the network).

So it's a new game of who can deliver the better software. But at the same time - the most software is in the controller so you can test your new release on production networks without in theory interfering with current customers traffic or at least being able to revert to working forwarding tables in a split second.

The hardware can be - the current chips and of course new optimized ones that would have better performance.

There are videos on YouTube that will help with getting familiar with what SDN is about.

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Re: Open Flow

Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:47 am

I really hope that this post is read by somebody from marketing.
In every business (so also Mikrotik ) it's all about money, so for this subject to gain weight I'll try to explain in this terms.

Please try to visit:
http://www.youtube.com/user/stanfordope ... sults_main
and you will see many reasons to move to Openflow. Please watch with more attention what can be done in wireless.

1) It's becoming very clear that SDN is what is needed to some big projects, something like covering a city with wireless in a TOTALLY controllable way.
A search for products with this features will found only UBNT devices with modified software. If this is to continue, guess with what will such networks be implemented (big number of wireless devices , so big money ).

2) I guess that I see some movement in becoming a more professional company with the introduction of new product like CCR1036. For me it's becoming very clear that this attribute will have to include SDN enabled products like Openflow.
NOT Moving in this direction is a step behind !!!

I'm very passionate about this, and I love Mikrotik products the way they served me until now, but I have to see the near future for my business (ISP) and this with SDN enabled products.
 
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Re: Open Flow

Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:50 am

Let's say if MikroTik provide a 110% excellent SDN solution utilising only MikroTik hardware, then everyone will be happy about the existence of this technology and will be even happier to buy a good thing for a good price and not even look at everything else.

The difference with the big corporate players is price and target "audience". They rely on their relationships with other huge companies and MikroTik have THE PEOPLE.
 
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Re: Open Flow

Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:48 pm

Hi *,

I beleive the implementation of Openflow on devices such as the http://www.msdist.co.uk/product_MikroTi ... 1LS-IN.php would open up the road for implementation of a diverese set of new applications
such as protypes of metro ethernet OAM etc.

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Re: Open Flow

Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:09 pm

Anybody who wants to test this, should sign up for "Development testing". Email support to get access
 
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Re: Open Flow

Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:00 pm

We have created an experimental OpenFlow module based on openWRT for Mikrotik routers (named MikrOF). Specifically, the module was created to run on routerboard RB433AH (with wireless support). Then, such device is converted into an OF-enabled switch. We have created an image for downloading and testing. More information please visit: http://www.dcomp.sor.ufscar.br/grew/OF_Mikrotik.html.
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Re: Open Flow

Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:15 am

If we now get openflow 1.3 https://www.opennetworking.org/images/s ... v1.3.1.pdf support within Mikrotik, that would be awesome!

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