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RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:11 pm
by normis
What's new in 5.17 (2012-May-28 12:34):

*) files - fixed problem when directories disappeared after reboot on usb or sd flash;
*) webfig - make QuickSet scan list work in Firefox v12;
*) webfig - fixed problem in QuickSet when changing country or channel-width in AP
mode would enable NV2 protocol;
*) webfig - fixed skins when hiding first tab may make other tabs inaccessible;
*) winbox - fixed packet raw data view in packet sniffer;
*) winbox - fixed problem when router could be DoS attacked through winbox port;
*) ports - add option "/port firmware ignore-directip-modem"
which will ignore modems ip interface
and modem's serial ports will be made accessible to users;
*) ipv6 pool - allow pools with prefix equal to prefix length;
*) ping times improved on Nv2 high data rate wireless links;
*) tool email - added starttls option;
*) snmp - allow multiple ip ranges for each community;
*) serial console - added channel support;
http://www.mikrotik.com/download

For RB1xx and RB5xx users (Old MIPS-LE devices): Before upgrading RouterBOARD 1xx or 5xx series devices (MIPS-LE) to version >=5.17, please upgrade your RouterBOOT firmware by uploading one of the following files to your corresponding device, and issuing command "/system routerboard upgrade".
RB1xx: http://download2.mikrotik.com/adm5120-2.18.fwf, RB5xx: http://download2.mikrotik.com/rc32434-2.18.fwf

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:49 pm
by reza.mnp
When IDS/IPS modules (snort , psad ,fwsnort or ..) will be added to ROS?

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 2:53 pm
by normis
When IDS/IPS modules (snort , psad ,fwsnort or ..) will be added to ROS?
Thanks for the suggestion. Currently we have no plans to add them to RouterOS v5, can you clarify what features are most important to you, and give some usage examples?

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:47 pm
by cbrown
Any news on Ticket#2012030866000601? I don't know if it is related to the RouterOS version or not.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:57 pm
by normis
Any news on Ticket#2012030866000601? I don't know if it is related to the RouterOS version or not.
sorry about not following up, we replied to your ticket. issue was in branding maker, and did not come from RouterOS

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:15 pm
by reza.mnp
with currently filter rule in ROS can detect and prevent some of attack like DOS and DDOS
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54607

i suggest add new future for detect and prevent malware and suspicious traffic and ... with pattern like snort database.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:53 pm
by slech
Ticket#2012052166000431 ?
Email Notification about new version ?

Thanks.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:58 pm
by slech
When IDS/IPS modules (snort , psad ,fwsnort or ..) will be added to ROS?
Just as an FYI - recently on the unofficial IRC channel a Vyatta developer mentioned that IPS (i.e. snort) will be deprecated in the upcoming VC6.4 release and removed in the following release.
IDS was removed from Vyatta.

Optional IDS package in Mikrotik will be very good.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:53 pm
by wirelesswaves
PLEASE EXPLAIN PROCESS CLEARER


"For RB1xx and RB5xx users (Old MIPS-LE devices): Before upgrading RouterBOARD 1xx or 5xx series devices (MIPS-LE) to version >=5.17, please upgrade your RouterBOOT firmware by uploading one of the following files to your corresponding device, and issuing command "/system routerboard upgrade".
RB1xx: http://download2.mikrotik.com/adm5120-2.18.fwf, RB5xx: http://download2.mikrotik.com/rc32434-2.18.fwf"

I put file in "filelist" directory, and then from terminal session do upgrade and reboot.

But the file remains in filelist and a "sys routerbpard pr" shows the original bootloader!

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:41 pm
by avantwireless
About le board firmware upgrade. I just checked a system running 5.16 and it's already running a 2.18 version of the firmware... Are we good to go or is there another revision that needs to be loaded and shouldn't it be 2.19?

Thanks...

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:56 pm
by normis
About le board firmware upgrade. I just checked a system running 5.16 and it's already running a 2.18 version of the firmware... Are we good to go or is there another revision that needs to be loaded and shouldn't it be 2.19?

Thanks...
Yes, you are good to go. The notice is meant for devices, which are running 2.8 or older RouterBOOT
I put file in "filelist" directory, and then from terminal session do upgrade and reboot.
But the file remains in filelist and a "sys routerbpard pr" shows the original bootloader!
When you upload the FWF file, put it in the root level, not in a directory. Type "/system routerboard print" before upgrade command, and check if the current firmware and "upgrade firmware" are different. If yes - the file was detected correctly, and you can proceed with upgrade command.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:45 pm
by MrYan
What's new in 5.17 (2012-May-28 12:34):
*) tool email - added starttls option;
Doesn't appear to be a checkbox in Winbox for the email STARTTLS option though it is in the command line.


Matt.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 12:34 am
by c0d3rSh3ll
I am testing my wireless signal, and I have a difference between 5.16 and 5.17.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 7:55 am
by normis
c0d3rSh3ll, -22dBm signal is much too strong, you could be seeing problems. Try to decrease signal to around -55dBm, and the link will improve. One dBm signal change is very insignificant, it could be caused by change in atmospheric conditions, or other factor.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:34 am
by pateutz
Hi all,

i have tested the issue " *) files - fixed problem when directories disappeared after reboot on usb or sd flash;" and it's really fixed.

Testing :
One HDD - 250GB ( defined as disks and shared using SMB) attached to the USB port of an RB751U-2HnD.
I have created an directory then copied an file inside that directory (using both protocols smb and ftp).
Restarted the router and the file remains where i have copied (using both protocols smb and ftp).

Thank you team great work.

Best Regards,

Daniel

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 12:10 pm
by elgo
What's new in 5.17 (2012-May-28 12:34):

*) tool email - added starttls option;
Hourrayh!!
1 year to implement this (at least, I had no routerOS device before...)
I cant't wait 2013-2014 so we could end up seeing FQDN as smtp "server" option. Oh yeah.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:15 pm
by honzam
About le board firmware upgrade. I just checked a system running 5.16 and it's already running a 2.18 version of the firmware... Are we good to go or is there another revision that needs to be loaded and shouldn't it be 2.19?

Thanks...
Yes, you are good to go. The notice is meant for devices, which are running 2.8 or older RouterBOOT
I think that RouterBOOT 2.18 is the last for MIPSle. 2.19 for MIPSle never goes out?
Can we uninstall the package Routerboard to free more memory?
Thanks

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:50 pm
by c0d3rSh3ll
c0d3rSh3ll, -22dBm signal is much too strong, you could be seeing problems. Try to decrease signal to around -55dBm, and the link will improve. One dBm signal change is very insignificant, it could be caused by change in atmospheric conditions, or other factor.


but the ccq is 28% in 5.17 and ccq is 82% in 5.16

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 11:51 pm
by Chupaka
c0d3rSh3ll, -22dBm signal is much too strong, you could be seeing problems. Try to decrease signal to around -55dBm, and the link will improve. One dBm signal change is very insignificant, it could be caused by change in atmospheric conditions, or other factor.
but the ccq is 28% in 5.17 and ccq is 82% in 5.16
but decrease signal strength and look at CCQ

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:44 am
by JorgeAmaral
What's new in 5.17 (2012-May-28 12:34):

*) tool email - added starttls option;
Hourrayh!!
1 year to implement this (at least, I had no routerOS device before...)
I cant't wait 2013-2014 so we could end up seeing FQDN as smtp "server" option. Oh yeah.
/tool e-mail send server=[:resolve smtp.gmail.com] ...

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:33 am
by taglio
*) ping times improved on Nv2 high data rate wireless links;

I've got a test link to try new thinks.

Signal is 70/70 TX/RX in the two chains. Radios are ubiquiti SR71-15. And the antennas are the wonderful Jirous JRC24 DUPLEX. Distance is ~15km. If you want more details i can give you radio mobile profile of the net.

Is a transparent link using WDS where i have got a couple of VLAN upon it.

NV2 in version <= 5.16 was TOTALLY unstable. latency and jitter simply do the link unusable.

With Nstreme enabled WITHOUT frame policy and whit polling i've got 100mbps send/receive and 50/50 both. Ping, latency and jitter is simply wonderful (1ms or 2).

I've upgraded to 5.17 to try the quoted feature. Now NV2 is true that it work better, also bandwidth test is more stable and powerful, i've got 130mbps send or receive and 65 both side. BUT this is the result of ping (BETTER THAN OTHERS VERSIONS):

X.X.X.233 56 64 4ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 10ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 34ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 27ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 26ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 10ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 9ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 10ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 25ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 8ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 4ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 23ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 19ms

Ok guys. With those results NV2 cannot be used in production environment. For me, and for anyone with a little bit of head, jitter and latency ARE MORE important than bandwidth.

Only to remark the difference with nstreme, this is the result:

X.X.X.233 56 64 1ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 1ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 1ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 1ms
X.X.X.233 56 64 1ms
sent=5 received=5 packet-loss=0% min-rtt=1ms avg-rtt=1ms max-rtt=1ms

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:05 am
by ojsa
Strange thing with "voucher generation" and "reports" under user manager. Downgraded to 5.16 solved the problem.

It seems that the report url is something like "http://192.168.31.254/userman?serviceId=UMT.Report" on 5.16 and working, but if I remember correct on 5.17 its more like "http://192.168.31.254/user?serviceId=UMT.Report", the same goes for the "voucher generation"

Running on RB751G, can make a support file AFTER my MTCUME exam today ;-)

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:03 pm
by karina
Just installed 5.17 into my 750G. got 100% CPU usage. Checked Resources and My CPU clock speed has dropped to 100mhz ???????

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:27 pm
by mxmxmxmxmx
I have issue with graphing tool in winbox only with resources. RB433AH 5.17.
Interface graphing in winbox is OK. On www everything is OK. Every resource in winbox is 1px high.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:01 pm
by karina
ok after reading a few posts, i have reset the cpu back to 680mhz and all is fine again.

One to watch there. Somehow the upgrade to 5.17 reset the CPU back to 100mhz RB750G was on 5.3

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:04 pm
by Chupaka
I have issue with graphing tool in winbox only with resources. RB433AH 5.17.
Interface graphing in winbox is OK. On www everything is OK. Every resource in winbox is 1px high.
CPU graphing is broken since at least v3
I don't know why they don't fix it :)

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:35 am
by NetworkPro
:lol: yeah I know right, Funny.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:46 pm
by jandafields
Aren't these "version release" posts normally stickied? It still shows 5.16 at the top of the forum.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:00 am
by daviddem
*) files - fixed problem when directories disappeared after reboot on usb or sd flash
good stuff, hopefully this fixes the disappearing micro-sd cards: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=46144, will give it a go.

I sent a detailed bug report about this problem a few months back, but other users had been complaining about it for a long time.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:27 pm
by elgo
I cant't wait 2013-2014 so we could end up seeing FQDN as smtp "server" option. Oh yeah.
/tool e-mail send server=[:resolve smtp.gmail.com] ...
Totally irrelevant and useless.
Unless you think people usually fills this field with a random IP address for fun? :shock:

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:52 am
by sergejs
mxmxmxmxmx, thank you very much for the report, we will try to fix the problem in the next RouterOS version.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:26 am
by WirelessRudy
What happened with e-mail notification of new versions? It's only its mentioned in another post that I became aware this new version is out... its the 6th of June now.... :(

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:38 am
by WirelessRudy
*) ping times improved on Nv2 high data rate wireless links;
What is exactly done to improve the ping times? A bit more technical background on what has actually done by technicians would be helpful to understand how and when this help ping times and if I really need this upgrade.

Does it mean the link as a whole is improved? Or is icmp protocol filtered and given high priority?
ping is only a package, so if ping is improved are other packages traffic improved too? If only ping is improved than that's useless. Ping is used to see how a link performs. If ping now is stable where the rest of the link still would suffer latency and jitter the tool is useless and I see no reason for this improvement if only gimmick.
Please an explanation.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:54 am
by uldis
*) ping times improved on Nv2 high data rate wireless links;
What is exactly done to improve the ping times? A bit more technical background on what has actually done by technicians would be helpful to understand how and when this help ping times and if I really need this upgrade.

Does it mean the link as a whole is improved? Or is icmp protocol filtered and given high priority?
ping is only a package, so if ping is improved are other packages traffic improved too? If only ping is improved than that's useless. Ping is used to see how a link performs. If ping now is stable where the rest of the link still would suffer latency and jitter the tool is useless and I see no reason for this improvement if only gimmick.
Please an explanation.
The Nv2 rate tx algorithm has been tuned to support better ping times.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:24 am
by karlos
The Nv2 rate tx algorithm has been tuned to support better ping times.
I agree, the ping time are better on interfaces with some moderate traffic. But still very big jitter, when with very low or no traffic. But this is the problem with waiting for some data to send just one big packet istead of few smaller.
I can also agree to improovments on stabilising transfer rates and speeds. It does not improove the maximum trafer rate too much, but it seems to be more stable, so more predictable version to version.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:21 am
by ohara
*) ping times improved on Nv2 high data rate wireless links;
In ptmp is it essential to upgrade both AP and stations to 5.17 to take full advantage of the benefit? Or is it enough to upgrade either AP or CPE only?

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:32 am
by WirelessRudy
*) ping times improved on Nv2 high data rate wireless links;
What is exactly done to improve the ping times? A bit more technical background on what has actually done by technicians would be helpful to understand how and when this help ping times and if I really need this upgrade.

Does it mean the link as a whole is improved? Or is icmp protocol filtered and given high priority?
ping is only a package, so if ping is improved are other packages traffic improved too? If only ping is improved than that's useless. Ping is used to see how a link performs. If ping now is stable where the rest of the link still would suffer latency and jitter the tool is useless and I see no reason for this improvement if only gimmick.
Please an explanation.
The Nv2 rate tx algorithm has been tuned to support better ping times.
I hope this means this helps latency and jitter as a whole. Ping is only a measurement tool.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:14 pm
by petrn
When IDS/IPS modules (snort , psad ,fwsnort or ..) will be added to ROS?
Just as an FYI - recently on the unofficial IRC channel a Vyatta developer mentioned that IPS (i.e. snort) will be deprecated in the upcoming VC6.4 release and removed in the following release.
IDS was removed from Vyatta.

Optional IDS package in Mikrotik will be very good.
Vyatta FAQ states reason:
http://www.vyatta.com/files/pdfs/Vyatta ... _Final.pdf - performance, stability and need for frequent updates, IPS/IDS requires quite a lot CPU/memory so i can imagine to have it on new 36-core routerboard platform, but definately not on current boards. And if you need to run RouterOS on x86, then another box running just IPS/IDS is better idea.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:38 am
by omidkosari
What happened to following ticket
[Ticket#2012033166000201] remote-ipv6-prefix-pool problem with pppoe
Nobody replies in mikrotik support . good time for sleep :lol:

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:41 am
by weber
Added a new static DNS entry and it appeared as regexp.
Why is it? As you can see the old ones are not regexp.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:40 pm
by sergejs
weber, please post your /ip dns export compact.

omidkosari, I will check what is wrong with your ticked and why you didn't get reply.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:55 pm
by weber
sergejs, it is strange but it's ok now. Probably, webfig/browser cache issue...

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:21 pm
by omidkosari
omidkosari, I will check what is wrong with your ticked and why you didn't get reply.
Thanks . Still waiting :wink:

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:23 pm
by synnest
had no problems with 5.17 on 700-series but also tried it on a rb493 - it totally screwed switch setup, also wan throughput went almost to 0, downgrading to 5.16 solved the problem, now I'm afraid to use it on 493 series (and I have a lot of them)

edit: switch setup was - eth3-eth8 - masterport eth2, eth2 in bridge1, vlan id=2 on bridge1, eth9 in bridge2, ros5.17 didn't allow eth2 in bridge1 and disabled it, after removing masterport from eth3-eth8 and adding eth2-eth8 to bridge1 wan throughput went to 0

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:51 am
by mxmxmxmxmx
I have issue with graphing tool in winbox only with resources. RB433AH 5.17.
Interface graphing in winbox is OK. On www everything is OK. Every resource in winbox is 1px high.
Which version fixed it?!

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:18 pm
by sergejs
v6.x has fix for the problem.
5.23 version will have fix for Winbox graphs menu.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:32 pm
by mxmxmxmxmx
:) I've asked which version fixED it, because it is already working on 5.22!! :)

Edit: 5.21 doesn't work; 5.22>>works fine, so i've got my answer.

Re: RouterOS v5.17 released

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:32 pm
by sergejs
So it means 5.22 fixed it.