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Newsletter 41: NEW PRODUCTS!

Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:56 pm

The new PDF is here, with lots of great news

- RB2011 with wireless and touchscreen LCD!
- MikroTik youtube channel
- $99 rackmount
- MUM in Russia
- Academy in Indonesia
- RouterOS v5.20 released
- RB44Ge Ethernet card
- New PoE out functionmality


Download the newsletter: http://download2.mikrotik.com/news-41.pdf
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Re: Newsletter 41 NEW PRODUCTS!

Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:20 pm

RB44Ge - ho ho ho ))
Thats why you dont whant include normal driver for intel ethernet )))

Ok, some questions - can we turn on or of TCP\UDP offloading ?
how many RX-TX queue per port support atheros chip ?
atheros 8131 support Vlan tag offload ?
can we manually change coalescing parameters ?
can we set manually RX\TX ring buffer for each port ??
 
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Re: Newsletter 41 NEW PRODUCTS!

Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:00 pm

Some more info about RB44Ge is here: http://routerboard.com/RB44Ge (see PDF file on the left)
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:35 pm

Normis, why couldn't the new RB2011U with more memory and CPU speed? I would be willing to pay for some more money. It seems that Mikrotik is obsessed with having low prices, which is good, but at the same time it would be great to have more power.
 
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:00 pm

just overclock to 750mhz
 
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Re: Newsletter 41 NEW PRODUCTS!

Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:10 pm

Normis, why couldn't the new RB2011U with more memory and CPU speed? I would be willing to pay for some more money. It seems that Mikrotik is obsessed with having low prices, which is good, but at the same time it would be great to have more power.
We have also more expensive and higher power products. Actually I think we have products for every price range. If you can't find what you need, let us know what product you would want, and we will think how to make it.
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:31 pm

Normis, why couldn't the new RB2011U with more memory and CPU speed? I would be willing to pay for some more money. It seems that Mikrotik is obsessed with having low prices, which is good, but at the same time it would be great to have more power.
We have also more expensive and higher power products. Actually I think we have products for every price range. If you can't find what you need, let us know what product you would want, and we will think how to make it.
Well in that case :) we need to talk over the phone because I always have great ideas lol. Also if you are to by the baseboard RB2011UAS-2HND without the case, can you add your own custom LCD panel or ? Don't care about the touch screen in particular.
 
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Re: Newsletter 41 NEW PRODUCTS!

Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:39 pm

normis:

in the routerboarg webpage not sell the case indor for rb2011UAS-2HnD

rj45 serial port like cisco ??
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:26 pm

RB44Ge is just 4x Atheros PCI chipsets with a PCI to PCIe bridge chip :(
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:28 pm

I'll order the RB44Ge and RB2011L-RM tomorrow :-)

Are there any plans/a date for RB2011LS-RM (rackmount with SFP)??


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Re: Newsletter 41 NEW PRODUCTS!

Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:19 pm

This is great news!
I will order RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN as soon as it is available at my local distributor.
 
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:19 pm

RB44Ge is just 4x Atheros PCI chipsets with a PCI to PCIe bridge chip :(
It's 4x Atheros PCIe Ethernet, consumer grade, controllers connected to PCIe switch chip:

http://www.plxtech.com/download/file/575

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Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:55 pm

I dont understand why Mikrotik have put a micro-USB port on the RB2011UAS-2HnD.

The PCB has the provision for a real USB port, its just one more ugly adapter hanging out the front, and micro-usb is no where near as mechanically secure as full sized USB

The LCD screen look like an after-thought, having it on the top just means it will get scratched from items being placed on top. Great idea, but a 1U case with it on the front. Or a nice stand up case like the Thomson tg589 has with LCD on the front, ports on the back would be fantastic.

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Good to hear RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN is available. Started to search and purchase :D
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:55 pm

I dont understand why Mikrotik have put a micro-USB port on the RB2011UAS-2HnD.

The PCB has the provision for a real USB port, its just one more ugly adapter hanging out the front, and micro-usb is no where near as mechanically secure as full sized USB

The LCD screen look like an after-thought, having it on the top just means it will get scratched from items being placed on top. Great idea, but a 1U case with it on the front. Or a nice stand up case like the Thomson tg589 has with LCD on the front, ports on the back would be fantastic.

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On the positive side, Serial via RJ45, with Cisco pinout, FINALLY!
The Rackmount version with wireless and the LCD is still coming. Hopefully the wait will not be too long, but I do agree with you on the USB part.
 
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Re: Newsletter 41 NEW PRODUCTS!

Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:55 pm

I would love pay a bit more for the RB2011UAS-2HnD to have both 2GHz/5GHz option or even with a minipci slot for later expansion.
 
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I would love pay a bit more for the RB2011UAS-2HnD to have both 2GHz/5GHz option or even with a minipci slot for later expansion.
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Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:31 pm

I will get one RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN I think its awesome! Yeah ! I wish it had a proper USB port to plug in 3g dongles, wimax dongles, usb Wi-Fi dongles, usb ethernet, usb hubs, usb storage, usb to serial so on

p.s what if I plugged in an USB otg cable into that port, will that give us a proper usb host port ?
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Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:45 pm

it is proper USB port, just different form factor.
 
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Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:11 pm

Excellent. I have a USB OTG cable prepared.

And if a USB device does not work, can we help for it to be supported by sending a supout file while it is plugged in ?
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Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:16 pm

yes, just like with any USB RouterBOARD model
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sample on my desk did work with USB flash plugged into microUSB-to-USB cable.
 
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Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:28 pm

Optimally support for this Wimax "biscuit"?? http://max-telecom.aksesoari.laptopi.no ... x-telecom/ via USB cale (apparently can be connected via USB).

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http://www.infomark.co.kr/html_eng/product/c600w.php

In this case we will have (if we put in some config and scripts)
- seamless failover and loadbalancig with cable at home
- take the biscuit with us when we go out and share with friends

Same goes for any such 3g solutions - optimal are not the USB dongles but the Wi-Fi sharing portable "CPE"s.

This request includes smartphones with USB tethering.
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Re: Newsletter 41 NEW PRODUCTS!

Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:40 pm

it is proper USB port, just different form factor.
It is a less common form factor that requires a cable, rather than allowing direct connection, for most USB devices. Given the size of the case, the argument for using the less-common connector is not very strong.
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Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:42 pm

nice router!!!! why UGLY RED!?!?!?!?!
 
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Hmmm. I have been thinking about it and I believe I know why they did what they did. If you look at the shape of their cute little 2011 wall mount frame, then you will notice that they couldn't adequately allow for all sizes of USB devices, which is why they put the mini usb extension cable. I foresee using some double sided tape with a 3G modem for installation.

Also, the placement of the LCD makes sense too if you think of it being wall mounted on the cute lil frame. This way the LCD will actually be facing forward. Hey NZ Monkey, put an ipod screen protector on the LCD :P

The first thing I though when I saw the screen was "Can I play pong or whack a mole on this." The second thing I thought was can I put trolly messages on the screen ;)
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nice router!!!! why UGLY RED!?!?!?!?!
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nice router!!!! why UGLY RED!?!?!?!?!
Because Mikrotik ;)
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Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:57 am

It is a less common form factor that requires a cable, rather than allowing direct connection, for most USB devices. Given the size of the case, the argument for using the less-common connector is not very strong.
at least in Europe these cables are easy to come by, as every phone have one packaged with it (as per regulation)
 
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Every phone packaged with this cable?

We are speaking of the OTG , correct ?

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In Bulgaria we buy them for 1-2 euro (1 BGN - 2.5 BGN). They were 4-5 euro until devices became widespread and resellers changed their profit strategy.

It is an inconvenience to have to go to the resellers for this small thing - the trip and time will cost more than 10 euro for sure, if you count the time - the cost may get INSANE.

They are cheap/noname but from what I've seen - reliable enough.

We need this connection to be very physically (and otherwise) stable not to unplug or wiggle by themselves even if something is hanging on the cable itself.

But we don't want to ugly-fi our installation with hanging usb devices.

I suggest MikroTik to manufacture these with really high control for quality and make them for long-life and supply these cables in the box with the router.

Something about the convenience must be done. We can't have things just hanging out of the router. Some sort of mount for 3g dongles should be made available.

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Every phone packaged with this cable?

We are speaking of the OTG , correct ?

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In Bulgaria we buy them for 1-2 euro (1 BGN - 2.5 BGN). They were 4-5 euro until devices became widespread and resellers changed their profit strategy.

It is an inconvenience to have to go to the resellers for this small thing - the trip and time will cost more than 10 euro for sure, if you count the time - the cost may get INSANE.

They are cheap/noname but from what I've seen - reliable enough.

We need this connection to be very physically (and otherwise) stable not to unplug or wiggle by themselves even if something is hanging on the cable itself.

But we don't want to ugly-fi our installation with hanging usb devices.

I suggest MikroTik to manufacture these with really high control for quality and make them for long-life and supply these cables in the box with the router.

Something about the convenience must be done. We can't have things just hanging out of the router. Some sort of mount for 3g dongles should be made available.

Thank you.
It appears they come with the cable...at least that's what the newsletter leads me to believe "micro-USB port with adapter cable for
3G/LTE dongle + USB drive"
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Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:32 pm

It appears they come with the cable...at least that's what the newsletter leads me to believe "micro-USB port with adapter cable for 3G/LTE dongle + USB drive"
My point isn't about availability or cost, but about reliability and necessity. My experience with micro-USB connectors is that they are not very rugged, which means it is easy for them to become damaged or accidentally disconnected. Looking at the image on RouterBoard.com, it looks like there would have been room for a full-sized USB Type-A port (vertically), or at least a Type-B, both of which are much more secure--and in the case of Type-A, would not require a cable for most USB peripherals.
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Fair enough.
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There were specific reasons to use this type of cable, but currently we didn't manage to implement them.
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We have also more expensive and higher power products. Actually I think we have products for every price range. If you can't find what you need, let us know what product you would want, and we will think how to make it.
Rackmount RB2011 with SFP would be awesome.

Or a simple half rack style bracket for RB2011LS-IN.


We are deploying the RB2011LS-IN to business and datacentre fibre customers instead of buying media converters, it makes a really nice CPE / endpoint for this, and the only thing missing is a rack mount bracket.
 
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We have also more expensive and higher power products. Actually I think we have products for every price range. If you can't find what you need, let us know what product you would want, and we will think how to make it.
Rackmount RB2011 with SFP would be awesome.

Or a simple half rack style bracket for RB2011LS-IN.


We are deploying the RB2011LS-IN to business and datacentre fibre customers instead of buying media converters, it makes a really nice CPE / endpoint for this, and the only thing missing is a rack mount bracket.
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Or a simple half rack style bracket for RB2011LS-IN.
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Ugh spammer.

Rackmount 2011 would be a godsend.I'm busy moving my p2p wireless clients over to fiber as their primary link and that would be an absolute lifesaver.
 
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Do Mikrotik have any low cost RouterBoard which have at least two SFP?.
 
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Normis, why couldn't the new RB2011U with more memory and CPU speed? I would be willing to pay for some more money. It seems that Mikrotik is obsessed with having low prices, which is good, but at the same time it would be great to have more power.
We have also more expensive and higher power products. Actually I think we have products for every price range. If you can't find what you need, let us know what product you would want, and we will think how to make it.
A product with less power. Not the blasting 1W + stuff which Mikrotik is heading towards. But with high TX/RX sensitivity and Metal shields and high gain antennas, surge protection.
The SXT and Grooves were a good start but that much power makes it good only for CPE. I am sure it is going to affect when used as AP with all the power u have added on. I would still wish to see a SXT with decent 400mW 25 dbi antenna, metal shield enclosure and higher TX/RX sensitivity
 
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I would still wish to see a SXT with decent 400mW 25 dbi antenna, metal shield enclosure and higher TX/RX sensitivity
Me too.
 
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I would still wish to see a SXT with decent 400mW 25 dbi antenna, metal shield enclosure and higher TX/RX sensitivity
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I would still wish to see a SXT with decent 400mW 25 dbi antenna, metal shield enclosure and higher TX/RX sensitivity
Me too.
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I'm very excited about RB2011!

I would like to +1 for the full size USB-A host port. Perhaps put the full size port in the rackmount case?

I would also like to see a variant with the SFP and USB but without wireless (RB2011ULS?) as these would make excellent managed broadband CPE routers.

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Do Mikrotik have any low cost RouterBoard which have at least two SFP?.
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Do Mikrotik have any low cost RouterBoard which have at least two SFP?.
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please give some examples how you would use it ? is it for home users? why two SFP ?
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For RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN and RB2011LS-IN yes
but if u come out with new ver. of RB2011L-RM its nice to have 2 SFP
 
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please give some examples how you would use it ? is it for home users? why two SFP ?
Probably not for home users but we have a client location that has three buildings. The fiber is running from a central building to the two outlying buildings. It would be great to have in the central building.
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