Actually, it is possible. I have situation with my ISP that they somehow managed to partialy block traffic from users behind local routers. Users without routers can use connections without limits.i don't think that this is possible, because router does not know what happens behind a pc - in the customers local network.
I can think of a way to detect if the PC is doing it but cannot think of a way how to actually block it and only allow the main pc to connect unless you block the whole thing...i don't think that this is possible, because router does not know what happens behind a pc - in the customers local network.
No, but my water company does say that I cannot run a pipe to my neighbour's house so that they do not have to pay their water bill.But sharing an internet conenction shouldn't be prohibited. Does your water supplier company tell you: you shouldnt let your friends drink your water. You should't water the garden Outside your home, only if it's inside. That's lame.
All ISPs here in the UK prohibit use of the service outside the customers property same as the water company, the electric company, the gas company etc.What about those cases when a customer is splitting his conenction with his family in the next room? Prohibit those? No big ISP does this. ...
Of course but unless your solution learns to differentiate between two different users and one user using two computers, it would be doing something it shouldn't.No, but my water company does say that I cannot run a pipe to my neighbour's house so that they do not have to pay their water bill.
Of course, but they detect these scenarios when they notice higher than usual usage and send a guy out to investigate.All ISPs here in the UK prohibit use of the service outside the customers property same as the water company, the electric company, the gas company etc.
But that could easily be for different reasons than you think. It could be the modem, it could be for administrative purposes. They obviously knew that people could just get a router and overcome this. It might even be a requirement of the software in the cable modems or a an attempt to control DHCP access. DHCP is extremely vulnerable to DoS or dysfunctional software.One particularly lame "big" cable ISP here used to require you to register a MAC address with them, one MAC address only. Big <> Clever
My example is not universal sorry. Not very right too.No, but my water company does say that I cannot run a pipe to my neighbour's house so that they do not have to pay their water bill.But sharing an internet conenction shouldn't be prohibited. Does your water supplier company tell you: you shouldnt let your friends drink your water. You should't water the garden Outside your home, only if it's inside. That's lame.
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My example is not universal sorry. Not very right too.No, but my water company does say that I cannot run a pipe to my neighbour's house so that they do not have to pay their water bill.But sharing an internet conenction shouldn't be prohibited. Does your water supplier company tell you: you shouldnt let your friends drink your water. You should't water the garden Outside your home, only if it's inside. That's lame.
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The biggest telecom here - for normal internet service, just does not help the user share his connection and does not care what happenes after their modem. But will help the user if the user pays for that kind of service where it sais it's for multiple computers. How about that? It's cool IMO. We respect them for this.
If an ISP limits connection sharing or in some other way their connection is less than it should be, automatically they become hated and people want to do them harm.
Hey, don't piss off the customers right ? Keep'em happy.
Your "business" plans are your "business" plans.okej, let's not discuss why should we detect sharing blablabla, but HOW TO DETECT SHARING. Somebody said that every Linux can "regenerate" TTL meaning that TTL will not be lowered and sharing will not be detected. Let me assure you nobody sharing his/her connection will think of this from the first moment on - and we are able to catch him. Also, many simple routers/proxies sold these days do not have the possibility of manipulating TTL.
Once again, don't discuss why sharing should be/shouldn't be. I am pretty much interested in HOW sharing could be detected in Mikrotik using TTL stuff. I didn't find anything like this in firewall, mangling etc.
This is right what we are doing. Users have to "prepay" the wished ammount of data to download. We DO NOT charge for upload. It is free at all, to allow users to use P2P software. 0.5% user DO upload much, much more that they download, but hey.... overall bandwidth consumption is always much higher id download than upload. So, who cares...One solution to this is to bill the user based on usage and not give them unlimited transfer.
So what about mac (osx and pre osx), linux, openbsd, netbsd, ancient windows versions?I feel you are not based on competitive markets - in my country, nobody would even think about placing download/upload ratios, prepaid VOLUME of megabytes/gigabytes etc. Company like this would not exist for two months here.
so, I decided to abandon following this thread with "no solution is and will be here". BTW, what we did is we are going to sniffer traffic for some minutes at random intervals throughout a day, save it to file and inspect this file with automated tools. In twenty minutes, we are able to find out standard values for TTL coming from Windows and he are just trying to watch values different than this values. Bit of manual work is involved.