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Winbox 3 beta

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:25 pm
by normis
We have released a new Winbox version with many long requested features. Currently the new Winbox is still in Beta, but it works very well, and can be used alongside the old Winbox, without disturbing the operation of the router, or the old Winbox. You can download it on the mikrotik.com download page

Some of the highlights in Winbox 3:

http://download2.mikrotik.com/routeros/ ... winbox.exe

• Group saved routers and keep big lists of them
• Sort by IP address, MAC, version etc.
• Filter and search in Saved or Neighbors
• Ability to keep Loader open when connecting
• Winbox can now self-upgrade
• If connection is lost, it will offer to reconnect later
• Log can be sorted, and now has columns

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:39 pm
by joegoldman
I would like to report when using the new Winbox beta in WINE on Ubuntu (12.04 LTS currently), it successfully loads my previous saved routers, but trying to add a group to the router makes it disappear from the list, cant find it with filters or anything.

When closing and re-opening, the missing routers are back, but without a group.

Would be great to have a dedicated Linux client, but thats a discussion for another day I fear ;)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:41 pm
by normis
I would like to report when using the new Winbox beta in WINE on Ubuntu (12.04 LTS currently), it successfully loads my previous saved routers, but trying to add a group to the router makes it disappear from the list, cant find it with filters or anything.

When closing and re-opening, the missing routers are back, but without a group.

Would be great to have a dedicated Linux client, but thats a discussion for another day I fear ;)
Wine in MacOS has no such issue, I can add devices in groups, and search by them. Maybe Wine version issue?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:48 pm
by joegoldman
Maybe. I'm due to upgrade to 14.04 LTS soon and will be doing fresh installs of a lot of things, will report if the issue persists.

I found that if I hit SAVE twice, it still dissapears items from the menu, but after closing and returning it persists groups etc. So it's workable.

One feature request for next beta: In 'Neighbors' I see it groups routers by MAC address with big inline headings. I think it would be good to be able to do the same with the GROUP setting in the Managed tab so instead of:
router1    admin    SITE1
router2    admin    SITE1
router1    admin    SITE2
router2    admin    SITE2
router3    admin    SITE2
router1    admin    SITE3
router2    admin    SITE3
it could be:
-----SITE1------
router1    admin    SITE1
router2    admin    SITE1
-----SITE2------
router1    admin    SITE2
router2    admin    SITE2
router3    admin    SITE2
-----SITE3------
router1    admin    SITE3
router2    admin    SITE3
if that makes sense.

Just an idea to have bigger visible grouping.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:35 pm
by MrBarakat
yeahhh its really amazing
thanks Mikrotik

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:43 pm
by marizo
Thanks for new version!
+ for reconnect option after connection lost.

My thoughts after few minute test- some visual improvements would be excellent:
tab windows opens in inconvenient default sizes and positions, some parts not visible (my PC resolution 1280x768)(example attached)
and windows taskbar icon is blurry (v2.2.18- clear)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:58 pm
by tomaskir
[Ticket#2014071866000868]

7 issues / missing features in Winbox3 beta2.

Normis, if you have time, please have a look at it.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:03 pm
by normis
[Ticket#2014071866000868]

7 issues / missing features in Winbox3 beta2.

Normis, if you have time, please have a look at it.
strange but my log does autoscroll once you have scrolled to the bottom ...

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:14 pm
by ojsa
Export function should export the group that is selected. This way I could export all routers for a customer and send it over.

Seems to export everything as it is now.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:17 pm
by tomaskir
[Ticket#2014071866000868]

7 issues / missing features in Winbox3 beta2.

Normis, if you have time, please have a look at it.
strange but my log does autoscroll once you have scrolled to the bottom ...
Here is how I'm trying it:

Open log Window > Scroll to the bottom [due to starting scroll being on top]
Open New Terminal > log already doesnt auto-scroll
Type ":log warn test" into terminal > log still doesnt auto-scroll

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:24 pm
by normis
[Ticket#2014071866000868]

7 issues / missing features in Winbox3 beta2.

Normis, if you have time, please have a look at it.
strange but my log does autoscroll once you have scrolled to the bottom ...
Here is how I'm trying it:

Open log Window > Scroll to the bottom [due to starting scroll being on top]
Open New Terminal > log already doesnt auto-scroll
Type ":log warn test" into terminal > log still doesnt auto-scroll
tried the same steps, it does scroll down automatically when new command pasted in terminal. must be some specific thing in windows or else. I have MacOS with Wine and Winbox 3 beta 2

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:38 pm
by tomaskir
tried the same steps, it does scroll down automatically when new command pasted in terminal. must be some specific thing in windows or else. I have MacOS with Wine and Winbox 3 beta 2
What is your sorting order in Log? Newest on top or newest on bottom?
My newest are on bottom, and I have to manually scrolled all the way down every time.

I have tested with:
Windows 7 SP1 x64, Winbox 3 beta2
Kali Linux x64, x86 Wine, Winbox 3 beta2

Both show the issue.

WinBox v3.2

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:11 pm
by w0lt
When I select "Profile", the program crashes..... :cry:

Re: WinBox v3.2

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:16 pm
by marizo
The same - Tools/Profile simply closes winbox without any warning!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:49 pm
by CyberTod
The window position can not be remembered between sessions. Or at least I can't make it work. I am using the Exit button, not 'X'.
And the autoscrolling that I've mentioned in another topic is not working properly. Yes it does work when you scroll down, but only if the buffer is full with lines otherwise it does not.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:50 pm
by normis
The window position can not be remembered between sessions. Or at least I can't make it work. I am using the Exit button, not 'X'.
And the autoscrolling that I've mentioned in another topic is not working properly. Yes it does work when you scroll down, but only if the buffer is full with lines otherwise it does not.
Nice tip! Now we can fix the bug, thanks for info about the buffer

Winbox 3b2 issues

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:08 pm
by Shiro
Was suprised seeing this new Winbox on the Website and i played a bit around with it, my discovery so far..

Winbox not saving sessions, after moving around several windows to my liking and restarting winbox, everything is gone, i loved that feature on the old Winbox, the checkbox "Load previous Session" was enabled.

Editing entrys is little bit buggy, after editing an entry and pressing save, sometimes some or all other entrys disappear, pressing save again sometimes help, restarting Winbox bring back all entrys.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:15 pm
by noyo
In my work group on deban 7.6 (wine-1.4.1), but sometimes Winbox can close in August alone.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:17 pm
by angboontiong
it cannot scan the device?
old version can.

Re: WinBox v3.2

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:34 pm
by Shiro
When I select "Profile", the program crashes..... :cry:
Same issue here on Windows + MacOS with Crossover/Wine.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:41 pm
by jarda
So far found cons:
- Tools - profile closes the window.
- Windows layout is not stored - openning with "load previous session" does not work (sure I pressed "exit" button before).
- The starting on top of the log should be changed in order to behave in the same manner as version 2.
- Trying the version 3.0b2 I lost the saved sessions - layouts that till now worked with version 2.
- Windows cannot be shrinked - lowered the height (e.g. "interfaces" window cannot be shrinked to display less lines).

And pros:
- Opening in new window is cool!
- Reconnect window is cool, but "more..." button is misleading, I expected more options but I lost possibility to reconnect... Does it have timeout when the reconnect window automatically closes?
- And reconnect works! Wow!

Looks promising, go on!

And please, do not forget the Dude :-).

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:36 pm
by bajodel
I would love the possibility to create a 'master default' setting ..where,e.g., relevant (custom) firewall columns are already and ever showed!!
..and many others possible usefull customizations on many other forms.. simply with a better/custom default (as I'm used to with putty ..for example)

current default for firewall columns is the most evident cause of my insomnia :D

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:44 am
by joegoldman
I would like to report similar to Tools->Profile, opening quickset then using [x] on the quickset internal window is causing my winbox to crash.
I would love the possibility to create a 'master default' setting ..where,e.g., relevant (custom) firewall columns are already and ever showed!!
This +1! I understand it could be difficult given different feature sets of different routers but I would love it.
Export function should export the group that is selected. This way I could export all routers for a customer and send it over.
This ALSO +1!

The Grouping is where a lot of the focus should be makes things so much easier when you have nearly 100 routers.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:57 am
by xcom
Thanks for the update.
Keep up the good work!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:21 am
by docmarius
I would really like an global option for "Inline comments" (like "Hide passwords")... Even inline comments checked by default in all tables.
The comments on their own line disrupting all the nice tables are annoying.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:31 am
by joegoldman
I would really like an global option for "Inline comments" (like "Hide passwords")... Even inline comments checked by default in all tables.
The comments on their own line disrupting all the nice tables are annoying.
Yes and no - I like a mix so definitely shouldn't remove the ability for certain tables to have certain options.
The comments can make good 'Headings' in the sense of say a Firewall, you might have 2-10 rules per 'goal' you are achieving, placing a comment on the top of the block of rules gives a nice heading and separates the rules out.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:53 am
by bajodel
The comments can make good 'Headings' in the sense of say a Firewall, you might have 2-10 rules per 'goal' you are achieving, placing a comment on the top of the block of rules gives a nice heading and separates the rules out.
Absolutely agree!!
Firewall rules without proper comments and 'separate sections(*)' would make me crazy :shock:

(*) I'm used to create a <dummy> chain with dummy rules (always disabled) to store comments, in this way I can move them easily and even create section separators with a dummy rule with full row comment like ";; =====[ my_label ]============================================"

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:02 pm
by docmarius
That's why I have suggested a global checkbox which could be disabled or enabled.
Leave it unchecked and have it as before...

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:21 pm
by coolex
Hi Normis,
great work with Winbox 3 :-)

I have one issue:
I had open few windows of winbox and I was upgrading RBs,
and sometimes some RB start reconnecting but after login winbox crash without any message (close).


I have Win7 with last updates.

With regards,
Kuba

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:27 pm
by Petzl
using wine sometimes it also stops responding ...

and it juist Quited when i did a wifi scan ...

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:46 pm
by Shiro
UI bug in Winbox 3.0b2 with IPSec Policys. Winbox show wrong priority, real value is 0, -1 is shown and no value is accepted, can't save this policy.
winbox_policy.png

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:53 pm
by Shiro
I would really like an global option for "Inline comments" (like "Hide passwords")... Even inline comments checked by default in all tables.
The comments on their own line disrupting all the nice tables are annoying.
funny, i had the same tought today, love to see this in winbox.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:04 pm
by yuridee
Using Wine to open winbox I would really like to have "Save as.." in Files
(files are can be "dragged" between winboxes though)

+1 for Global Inline comments

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:28 pm
by Petzl
Just a reminder :

if you use wine + winbox you also need to define a default gateway if you use a fixed IP config ... if not scanning for neighbors will not work !

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:56 pm
by nz_monkey
Another +1 for Global in line comments.

Oh and great work on WinBox 3 :)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:12 am
by hel
Please, make login window to be resizeable to a bit smaller height. Its height is really big.

Also I think that Note and Group text boxes isn't necessary on the main login window here. They can be entered in a dialog boxes while saving, that way you can implement an Edit button if needed. Login window will be more clear then. Just IMHO.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:30 am
by rodolfo
Good work!!!
I still wait for:
- an alphabetical order of column in show_columns: for some list it is harder to find wath I want (i.e. ip firewall, interfaces ethernet, ...)
- a smarter default column selection (i.e. the size in partitions, the tunnel id in eoip, ...)

Thanks.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:41 pm
by mars
when using the new winbox and afterwards using the old 1 and the dude it shows a blank window with interfaces and wireless not showing

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:33 pm
by Rowan
Request- To pull up a no frills terminal window from winbox.

Justify- I've been teaching myself RouterOS for a couple of years now and often open up two instances of Winbox. One for terminal and one to see changes.

Result- Fewer input strokes to reach terminal through Winbox.

Many apologies if I've missed something or this has been dealt with!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:44 pm
by boen_robot
Request- To pull up a no frills terminal window from winbox.

Justify- I've been teaching myself RouterOS for a couple of years now and often open up two instances of Winbox. One for terminal and one to see changes.

Result- Fewer input strokes to reach terminal through Winbox.

Many apologies if I've missed something or this has been dealt with!
I don't get it...

When you click "New Terminal" in Winbox, there's a separate window for terminal being opened, and at the same time, you can still open up Winbox windows, and do whatever it is you want. So you should be able to see it all in the same Winbox instance.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:07 am
by macsrwe
Just installed Winbox 3. Two comments:

When I launch it, even if I do nothing else with it, it eats up one entire CPU until I quit it. It does what I ask it to, but my fans rev all the way up and it acts like it's mining bitcoins in the background. I'm running it on a Mac under Parallels, as I have always run winbox. I'm assuming this is the new "neighbors" function, set a little too aggressively?

I'm a little disappointed in the implementation chosen for the groups feature. I had envisioned a folder setup, so that when collapsed all my choices would fit on one screen without scrolling, and I could just "drill down" to the router I wanted, again with a minimum of scrolling. Now either I still have to scroll, or I have to click a pulldown, click a box, type a group expression, and click a filter button, which is a lot more busy work. Plus, you have to click in the router area (select a router you don't really want) at least once to activate scroll-wheel scroll, which may be a limitation of Windows (on the Mac, you get used to being able to wheel-scroll wherever the mouse is hovering, and I get caught short every time this fails to happen).

Groups as they are implemented are actually even more usable if you treat them as keywords. I can name a device's "group" with its location, tower, and AP/CPE/or other function, then pull up all the units on a tower, all the units in a town, all the CPEs, and so on. So it's still a good feature, and if you ever wanted to add the folder thing on top of it, they wouldn't get in each other's way.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:17 am
by 23q
Tools - Profile -- disconnect
Load Previous Session - not work!
User Columns - not save!

rb-751

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:41 am
by ropix
Anyone has same problem with me?
When I use winbox 3, And router run BGP with full routing table, I cant use filter in IP>Route

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:08 pm
by paolopoz
Bugs in Winbox 3:

I have a list of devices automatically imported from previous Winbox version. When trying to modify one of these entries by adding to them a group name, those items disappear from the list. Even selecting the specific group in the dropdown menu does not help. It is necessary to close Winbox and reopen it to see those entries show up again.

Adding groups to devices and then using again Winbox 2 will make all the groups disappear from the devices. I understand that this could be a behaviour of Winbox 2 which removes unknown fields from device entries. Maybe it should be stated on the known issues.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:43 pm
by rdhw
All display settings are lost between closing Winbox 3, and starting a new Winbox 3 session to the same device, regardless of the setting of "Load previous session".

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:44 pm
by normis
Thanks, all mentioned bugs submitted to be fixed

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:45 pm
by macsrwe
I launched winbox 3 today and almost had a heart attack. Of about 100 predefined sites, all had disappeared but about a dozen.

Turns out, if you leave the Neighbors tab selected in winbox when you exit, when it comes back up it is still in the Neighbors tab -- then when you switch to the Managed tab, only some of your defined sites are displayed.

If you quit and then relaunch winbox with the Managed tab active, all your sites show up fine.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:10 am
by cypa
I would like to report when using the new Winbox beta in WINE on Ubuntu (12.04 LTS currently), it successfully loads my previous saved routers, but trying to add a group to the router makes it disappear from the list, cant find it with filters or anything.

When closing and re-opening, the missing routers are back, but without a group.

Would be great to have a dedicated Linux client, but thats a discussion for another day I fear ;)
same problem for Ubuntu 14.04

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:15 am
by cypa
Why there is not crypto-key auth option like in SSH?

On my netbook with 1024x600 res submenu of System too long, last item Users is not visible.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:53 am
by cypa
Please, add caption with name/ID of the router to upper panel (where Uptime, Memory, Time, Date and CPU already). I need to see name when winbox.exe is in fullscreen mode on my netbook!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:03 am
by cypa
and finally, why, the heck, there is no native linux winbox version? Is it a big deal to switch to multiplatform toolkit?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:25 am
by normis
Webfig works in all OS

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:55 pm
by jarda
Please, think about possibility to add option to open another winbox session directly from IP/neighbors list connecting to selected item from the list.

Of course, these devices could be in different networks with no route from the winbox running computer, but the main winbox client (the one I have neighbors list opned) could provide the connectivity for newly invoked winbox session (something like tunnel) that would appear like the first ROS device is connecting to the second ROS device within its accessibility range.

It is something like telneting from one ROS device to another, just not via telnet but via winbox.

Hope I explained it well, otherwise I am openend to your questions in order to clarify what I meant.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:12 pm
by Petzl
and finally, why, the heck, there is no native linux winbox version? Is it a big deal to switch to multiplatform toolkit?
Winbox works perfect under Wine ....

I like to have a option to add a confirmation message to "Remove" and "Disable" , using keystrokes its now to easy to do something wrong ...

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:53 am
by pfb
I am unable to use this in Win7 x64.
The window opens with a list of previously saved devices, but nothing appears in the top panel.

In Linux it is better, but I see the same issues others have mentioned with new devices not saving until winbox is restarted.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:49 am
by pppixel
Hi,

Guys, when I run winbox shows me this window and all controls are gone

Image

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:11 am
by normis
That fourth button in the corner, with two arrows, I bet it is the one causing this issue. Uninstall or disable.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:39 am
by pppixel
OK i will try, but the button is from TeamViewer
You were right disable the fast connection in teamviewer helped

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:17 pm
by Rudios
At first I find winbox 3 very neat.

Nevertheless I have found some things I do not really like.

When there are multiple windows open inside the session these can be closed by hitting Esc (except terminal, but I don't mind)
But when all windows are closed the next hit of Esc will close the complete session. I do not like that behavior.
If you want to quickly close all windows, you have to watch out you won't hit it to many times.

Another thing is when a connection is being made and cancel is clicked, winbox is closed completely.
It would be better to end up in the list again.
Now if you have clicked the wrong device and click cancel, winbox is closed and has be started again.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:28 pm
by normis
At first I find winbox 3 very neat.

Nevertheless I have found some things I do not really like.

When there are multiple windows open inside the session these can be closed by hitting Esc (except terminal, but I don't mind)
But when all windows are closed the next hit of Esc will close the complete session. I do not like that behavior.
If you want to quickly close all windows, you have to watch out you won't hit it to many times.

Another thing is when a connection is being made and cancel is clicked, winbox is closed completely.
It would be better to end up in the list again.
Now if you have clicked the wrong device and click cancel, winbox is closed and has be started again.
Thanks for the "esc" report, we can repeat the issue.
About cancel button it was reported earlier, and also has been accepted as bug.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:44 pm
by Rudios
At first I find winbox 3 very neat.

Nevertheless I have found some things I do not really like.

When there are multiple windows open inside the session these can be closed by hitting Esc (except terminal, but I don't mind)
But when all windows are closed the next hit of Esc will close the complete session. I do not like that behavior.
If you want to quickly close all windows, you have to watch out you won't hit it to many times.

Another thing is when a connection is being made and cancel is clicked, winbox is closed completely.
It would be better to end up in the list again.
Now if you have clicked the wrong device and click cancel, winbox is closed and has be started again.
Thanks for the "esc" report, we can repeat the issue.
About cancel button it was reported earlier, and also has been accepted as bug.
Normis,

Thank you for your answer!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:49 pm
by Rudios
Another thing I noticed, which I have also seen in version 2 is the inconsistency in showing the CPU/RAM etc in the upper bar.
When these views are enabled, they are not always shown again when a new connection is made.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:59 am
by aoakeley
I keep accidentally deleting saved devices from the list.

Background:
In the previous version you could click in the list and press a letter on the keyboard e.g. "b" to goto "Bobs Building" This does not work any more.

Issue:
If I press "r" to go to "Robs Rowing" it deletes whatever item I have selected at the time.

I know this is just making the logon screen consistent with what the keyboard keys do everywhere else, but it keeps catching me out and I keep deleting entries from my list.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:40 pm
by SiB
Problem in WinBox 2 and 3 when is Maximized.

In firewall I click on drop-down list of chains and the window list go to strong into right, out of screen.
Screen-shot in attachment.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:04 pm
by freemannnn
i would like to save the windows position and sizes after rebooting of the router (disconnected) so you dont have to fix them again the way you like

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:05 am
by SiB
i would like to save the windows position and sizes after rebooting of the router (disconnected) so you dont have to fix them again the way you like
+1, When I open connection by WinBox, move to other monitor, close it or reboot MTK then next connection is open on my primary monitor.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:11 pm
by benesm1
Hello,
I came by two bugs, one ugly, one particularly nasty:
1) In the VRRP tab there are symbols "RB" on the running master, backups are empty. The expected behaviour is RM on running master and B on backups. Somebody here posted a similar bug report concerning webfig.
2) The nasty bug manifests itself, when you try to add for example a new FORWARD rule in the firewall. I was configuring a jump rule, with a dst address list as a decision parameter. The expected behaviour was that only those packets with dst address on that list will be processed by this rule, but in fact all packets fell in indiscriminately. Needles to say, total havoc in my network ensued.

I would strongly discourage anyone from using this beta Winbox on production boxes. This particular version 3.0b2 should have been marked as a deep alpha instead.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:26 pm
by Chupaka
2) The nasty bug manifests itself, when you try to add for example a new FORWARD rule in the firewall. I was configuring a jump rule, with a dst address list as a decision parameter. The expected behaviour was that only those packets with dst address on that list will be processed by this rule, but in fact all packets fell in indiscriminately. Needles to say, total havoc in my network ensued.
any details, please?.. WinBox only adds rules, rules are processed by RouterOS, which is not changed...

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:35 pm
by benesm1
As I say - I connected to a router (CCR1036-12G-4S running a v6.7 ROS) via Winbox 3.0b2. I then proceeded to "IP"->"Firewall", I then clicked the "+" to add a new rule (a forward rule in my case). I left everything blank in the "General" tab, except the "In. Interface", which I set to our upstream iface. Then I proceeded to the "Advanced" tab, where I selected a (non-empty) Dst. Address list. Finally I chose "jump" in the Action field and filled in the "Jump Target". The rest of the story you already know...

Needles to say, the old Winbox works as expected.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:37 pm
by kraic
it's OK.. But for me it would be better if "Save button" and "Connect button" switch places.. what rest of you think ?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:57 pm
by wrobli
When open manual and I need close windows troubleshooting close winbox

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:07 am
by dtoffo
A suggestion: can you add the facility to save "view" settings, like a template of columns ?
for example: i add every time src-address-list and dst-address-list as I use them pretty always. I would like to customize this and other colums list and save a template to use instead of finding every time the defaults and have to customize.
would be great to set the columns I like (for me is specially in firewall and routing pages) and save it to reapply when I open a new router, or even have it defined for each and every router I open.

And another one: when I select columns would be great to have the possibility to select more than one at the time. It could be done with checkboxes where there is the checkmark, or with a specific table...

It's a great tool and your products are great, but I have to add many columns every time, it's time wasting and noisy.

Thanks for your work

D.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:18 am
by normis
As I say - I connected to a router (CCR1036-12G-4S running a v6.7 ROS) via Winbox 3.0b2. I then proceeded to "IP"->"Firewall", I then clicked the "+" to add a new rule (a forward rule in my case). I left everything blank in the "General" tab, except the "In. Interface", which I set to our upstream iface. Then I proceeded to the "Advanced" tab, where I selected a (non-empty) Dst. Address list. Finally I chose "jump" in the Action field and filled in the "Jump Target". The rest of the story you already know...

Needles to say, the old Winbox works as expected.
when you add the "nasty" rule, please open the terminal and make a "print detailed" command in the firewall menu. Just to see what Winbox added wrong

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:59 am
by benesm1
Hello,
unfortunately I was unable to reproduce the issue. The router underwent several reboots in course of my attempts to diagnose the VRRP issues. It must have been some race condition, because today the new Winbox works as expected... :?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:22 am
by AnRkey
I found a bug in Winbox 3 beta 2. :shock:

To reproduce,

1: While running Windows 7 SP1
2: Open Winbox 3 beta 2
3: Switch to the neighbors tab
winbox-screenshot-2.png
4: Click refresh a few times, the list fails to populate sometimes.
winbox-screenshot-1.png
5: To fix the issue, Winbox must be restarted.

R

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:43 am
by Numenori
Where can i found winbox 2? There is no link on download page, only to winbox 3 beta.
I dont want to be your beta-tester, just need to do my job.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:05 am
by normis
Where can i found winbox 2? There is no link on download page, only to winbox 3 beta.
I dont want to be your beta-tester, just need to do my job.
Winbox 2 is included in RouterOS. You don't need to download it. Just open your IP address in the webbrowser, like always. Winbox link is there.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:32 am
by dtoffo
Winbox 3 beta has some ugly bugs: really is not ready for use.
I expected the main changes only il launcher, considering that plugins are downloaded from the device.

Why new features break consolidated ones?

VRRP: winbox says an interface is backup, in console or winbox2 I can see it is master
admin@00_0C_29_97_24_AE (ROS-L) - WinBox v6.15 on x86 (x86)_2014-07-31_07-13-57.png
IPSEC: in winbox3 you can't touch a policy: every time there is an error because priority goes to value "-1" (in console or winbox2 is "0") and the error is even more confusing, complaining every time for a value out of range where range includes all my tries.
admin@00_0C_29_97_24_AE (ROS-L) - WinBox v6.15 on x86 (x86)_2014-07-31_07-17-57.png
D.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:51 am
by normis
dtoffo, these were reported above, and I already sait we are fixing them. thanks

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:22 am
by CyberTod
The bug "session settings are not remembered" is only valid for routeros v6. I just opened a board with routeros v5 and the last session was remembered correctly.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:32 pm
by macgaiver
FYI - time to press "Check for update" button!!!
as far as i can see Winbox 3.0beta3 is out

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:37 pm
by normis
Don't get your hopes up, this is a minor release.

Winbox still can't save window state, and some other of the reported issues are not fixed.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:59 pm
by marizo
v3.0b3 bugs:
winbox sometimes closes, when closing Quick Set by pressing Esc.
winbox always closes, when do the sequence: open Quick Set - close by Esc - open Quick Set
winbox always closes, when closing Manual by Esc.

upd:
winbox 3 loses group settings after opening winbox v2. so it's difficult to use both v2 and v3 alternatively.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:10 pm
by joegoldman
Thanks SO MUCH for implementing the show categories for grouping by group :D

Makes it so much better to organise heaps of routers.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:38 pm
by avantwireless
Webfig works in all OS

Ok so how in webfig do you "find" a routeros box with unknown or reset IP? Either that or fix winbox under linux so that the search for mac routerOS feature works under wine. At one time it did but it's not consistent enough like it would be with a native linux version.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:21 pm
by rextended
...how in webfig do you "find" a routeros box with unknown or reset IP?...
Inside another webfig on anoter RouterBOARD.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:25 pm
by macsrwe
tried the same steps, it does scroll down automatically when new command pasted in terminal. must be some specific thing in windows or else. I have MacOS with Wine and Winbox 3 beta 2
What is your sorting order in Log? Newest on top or newest on bottom?
My newest are on bottom, and I have to manually scrolled all the way down every time.
Ditto. Went nuts recently trying to see why CPE would not register to AP, in neighborhood with many unrelated APs. Log consistently appended off the bottom of the screen and needed to be manually scrolled. Could NOT get log to "scroll itself up" by moving scroll box to the very bottom. Worse, even though log was appending off the bottom of the screen, if you manually scrolled back to a specific spot in the log to read it, those lines would not stay still, but would move around as the log grew. Looked for the "Freeze" button to stop this behavior, and it is no longer in the beta winbox!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:29 pm
by macsrwe
I repeatedly see a behavior where winbox beta says "Logging in," flashes up the large work window, and then the window immediately disappears.

I do wish "export" and "import" were somewhere else out of the way, like in the upper right-hand corner, suitable for a rarely-used control. I keep hitting them when I mean to hit "managed" or "neighbors."

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:43 am
by joegoldman
Webfig works in all OS

Ok so how in webfig do you "find" a routeros box with unknown or reset IP? Either that or fix winbox under linux so that the search for mac routerOS feature works under wine. At one time it did but it's not consistent enough like it would be with a native linux version.
Latest version of Winbox2 + Both Winbox3beta2 and beta3 both work fine under my Ubuntu 12.04.4 desktop running WINE

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:06 am
by macsrwe
If you drag and drop a file from the Windows file system onto a routerboard, winbox 3 never closes the file on the Windows side. This causes Windows to complain that you can't edit the file because "somebody else" has it open. If you try to delete the file, winbox 3 will be identified as the culprit. You have to quit winbox to be able to edit or delete the file.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:50 am
by 23q
better picture :lol:

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:52 am
by kikikaka
just tried Winbox v3.0beta3. It crashes after clicking the "Connect" button to login.

Before that, V3 beta2 works fine, at least can use.
Environment: Win7 Ultimate 64 bit, RB2011UAS-2HnD with 6.18

====
Windows popup "winbox.exe has stopped working" with following details...

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: winbox.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 53db57a7
Fault Module Name: StackHash_d404
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.18247
Fault Module Timestamp: 521ea8e7
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: 000ce753
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: d404
Additional Information 2: d404de6998512d67888464546cbd239b
Additional Information 3: 0778
Additional Information 4: 0778d189325617d8f631da4129a41ed3

Read our privacy statement online:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid= ... cid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt

Re: WinBox v3.2

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:46 am
by Toiletbowl
When I select "Profile", the program crashes..... :cry:
i confirm this crashes everytime.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:04 pm
by Clauu
I have the same problem as @kikikaka, same behavior with the same environment and winbox version
Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH
  Application Name:	winbox.exe
  Application Version:	0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:	53db57a7
  Fault Module Name:	StackHash_d4cb
  Fault Module Version:	6.1.7601.18247
  Fault Module Timestamp:	521ea8e7
  Exception Code:	c0000374
  Exception Offset:	000ce753
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
  Locale ID:	1033
  Additional Information 1:	d4cb
  Additional Information 2:	d4cb659affa21e9adb7cb973ef65a5e6
  Additional Information 3:	0f84
  Additional Information 4:	0f8498f24c7bac944d9a377037ef0d07
Also since this is a beta release, where we can find the old stable release? You have removed it from download although there is no other stable release.. :|

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:19 pm
by Rudios
I have the same problem as @kikikaka, same behavior with the same environment and winbox version
Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH
  Application Name:	winbox.exe
  Application Version:	0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:	53db57a7
  Fault Module Name:	StackHash_d4cb
  Fault Module Version:	6.1.7601.18247
  Fault Module Timestamp:	521ea8e7
  Exception Code:	c0000374
  Exception Offset:	000ce753
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
  Locale ID:	1033
  Additional Information 1:	d4cb
  Additional Information 2:	d4cb659affa21e9adb7cb973ef65a5e6
  Additional Information 3:	0f84
  Additional Information 4:	0f8498f24c7bac944d9a377037ef0d07
Also since this is a beta release, where we can find the old stable release? You have removed it from download although there is no other stable release.. :|
Like normis said before. The old version 2 can be retrieved from the routerboard itself. Go to the ip via webbrowser and download the exe file

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:31 am
by nicomalun
Nice !! :-)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:26 am
by honnnza
Hi, please maybe there is a problem with adding a new policy in IPSEC - Only in WinBox 3

It is not posible to add new policy in WinBox 3, in old version it is OK.

In WinBox version 3, inputbox "priority" is still in red
Message:
"Error in Priority - Integer in range [0;-1] expected!"


RB12000 6.15

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:29 am
by normis
Hi, please maybe there is a problem with adding a new policy in IPSEC - Only in WinBox 3

It is not posible to add new policy in WinBox 3, in old version it is OK.

In WinBox version 3, inputbox "priority" is still in red
Message:
"Error in Priority - Integer in range [0;-1] expected!"


RB12000 6.15
There are some 3 or 4 reports with this problem already on the forum :) It is fixed in Winbox 3beta2, please upgrade winbox, in the loader push "check for updates"

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:30 pm
by renatoornelas
IP -> Routes filters not working properly

It doesn't show Dst Address on the filter list (only shows if you list all routes)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:03 pm
by kowal
Hi,

After uprgade to beta3 log is again unsorted, like in winbox v2. Is it normal?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:07 pm
by normis
Thanks, most likely a bug

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:11 pm
by CyberTod
v3.0beta3 does not work at all on my pc.
At least on boards with v6 installed - I click connect, it says Logging in, Downloading plugins and then nothing happens - no error message, no winbox window, it just closes.
Tested to open a board with routeros v5 - works normally.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:38 pm
by Rudios
v3.0beta3 does not work at all on my pc.
At least on boards with v6 installed - I click connect, it says Logging in, Downloading plugins and then nothing happens - no error message, no winbox window, it just closes.
Tested to open a board with routeros v5 - works normally.
What kind of Routerboards are you using. I have multiple mipsbe based devices and all are connecting normally with Router OS 6.5 installed.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:45 pm
by CyberTod
Almost everything with mipsbe from v6.7 to v6.18

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:07 pm
by joegoldman
I can log in to mipsbe devices with Beta3 running 6.1, 6.15 and 6.18 (all i have to test straight away).

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:32 pm
by noyo
As you are able, it adds a tab in winboxie recently used hosts, alongside neighbors.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:44 pm
by Bi2rb0
After connect, click "Quick Set" and "Cancel" and again "Quick Set" - winbox window just closes.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:25 am
by leoservices
suggestion

when viewing log, having the option to clear the screen of log; filter and locate.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:54 pm
by engiman
v3.0beta3 does not work at all on my pc.
At least on boards with v6 installed - I click connect, it says Logging in, Downloading plugins and then nothing happens - no error message, no winbox window, it just closes.
Tested to open a board with routeros v5 - works normally.

Same happens on my Vista 32bit, the only difference is, "microsoft checking solution" message.
On win7 64bit beta3 works.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:36 pm
by rdhw
After entering the address and password, I click on "Connect" and Winbox3.0b3 crashes:
Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH
  Application Name:	winbox-v3b3.exe
  Application Version:	0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:	53db57a7
  Fault Module Name:	StackHash_40f7
  Fault Module Version:	6.1.7601.22436
  Fault Module Timestamp:	521eaab0
  Exception Code:	c0000374
  Exception Offset:	000c38b7
  OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Locale ID:	2057
  Additional Information 1:	40f7
  Additional Information 2:	40f747f593c2caee3c98249ed7d2893d
  Additional Information 3:	b30a
  Additional Information 4:	b30ae56845734d06ccd6c69d4d7d3dd4

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:06 pm
by macsrwe
The design of having the naked letter "r" remove entries is awful human engineering. Click (but miss) the password field, start typing a password with an "r" in it, and you (silently) delete whatever entry was chosen before you realize it -- and there is no undo!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:19 pm
by macsrwe
In the old Winbox, if I clicked "make supout.rif" and named the supout x, I'm pretty sure it would make a file named x.rif. The beta Winbox just makes a file named x.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:41 pm
by macsrwe
When drag-and-drop copying files to a router via Winbox, the old WInbox used to let you access the main window during the copy (to check Files, Queues, resize the window, or whatever). The new Winbox just gives you an error beep if you try to click anywhere on the main window while the copying dialog window is live.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:48 am
by BartoszP
Hi,

When I use WinBox3b3 then sometimes I can not access second level menu eg. System/Clock.
The just popped up submenu does not take focus on itself. When I activate first level action
eg. Log then submenus work again.

It is not constant behavior. It happens from time to time.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:06 pm
by Charos
Winbox 3 beta3, Win7 x64: A bug when using TeamViewer 9. (same issue which pppixel posted about on page 2)

Winbox interface with TeamViewer running:
Image

Winbox interface without TeamViewer running:
Image

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:13 pm
by normis
This is not a Winbox bug specifically, Teamviewer ruins all kinds of applications. Just don't use that Quick launch button

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:20 pm
by shadowskippie
found a bug with similar graphics issues to the one above.

If i modify the name of winbox i get that graphical issue. fix the name and i fix the graphics

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:50 pm
by Guille
Hello, this surely are not bugs, but are things that made easy to work with the previous version.
I don't save passwords and when I double-click a device in the list winbox automatically tries to connect without asking a password nor setting focus on password text box. The previous version did.
Ahother one, when I had too much child windows I keep pressed ctrl+f4 and all child windows closed except the main. Now the main windows closes too. I think it should close with alt+f4 not ctrl+f4.
And last, when a double-click an input box, address password... anything, it doesn't select the text.
Thanks in advance. These are small things but makes you able to work faster.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:30 pm
by brossler
Hello,
new version is great, but there is tiny "bug".
When I sort managed routers by Address, it sorts it not by value but as string, e.g.:

172.16.1.10
172.16.1.11
172.16.1.2
172.16.1.3

It should sort like this:

172.16.1.2
172.16.1.3
172.16.1.10
172.16.1.11

Thanks

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:04 pm
by BartoszP
It is ASCII-order used from ages in sorting.
"1" < "11" < "2" < "22" < "23" < "A" < "a" ......

Next problem could be order of
172.16.16.0/24
172.16.16.0/16
which one is "less" ?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:46 pm
by Chupaka
Next problem could be order of
172.16.16.0/24
172.16.16.0/16
which one is "less" ?
he says about router IPs. you cannot have 172.16.16.0/24 as host address ;)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:54 pm
by macsrwe
It is ASCII-order used from ages in sorting.
"1" < "11" < "2" < "22" < "23" < "A" < "a" ......
Of course it is, but it is an inappropriate choice of sort to use in this context. Sorting that way helps no one, and just makes other people's jobs harder.
Next problem could be order of
172.16.16.0/24
172.16.16.0/16
which one is "less" ?
/IP route display has no problem figuring that out, use the same algorithm.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:19 am
by Sob
While you're at it, can you please fix the long-standing bug with non-working clipboard shortcuts?

There are two sets of them in Windows:
(a) well-known Ctrl+X/C/V
(b) less known Shift+Del (cut), Ctrl+Ins (copy) and Shift+Ins (paste)

Many people may not even know about the second, but they do exist and in fact worked in every single program I've ever used so far. Just try it, if you don't believe me. :) In every Windows from 3.1 to 8.1, in every program, it works just fine. The only exception are newer WinBox versions (since ROS 4.x I think). I'm sure that in WinBox it's not left out intentionally, it's most likely just result of implementing own edit controls (it worked in old versions, where standard edits were used) and nobody at MikroTik using (b) shortcuts.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:30 pm
by gnuttisch
I would love the feature to backup all the routers that are managed by winbox in one click :)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:22 pm
by macsrwe
Suggestion: Winbox currently does not display or handle changes to the POE configuration value ether1‑poe‑in‑long‑cable. Winbox knows to display POE-out ports with an additional POE panel showing status, power consumption, etc.—it should also have a POE panel for the POE-in port of a POE-out Routerboard that shows the “long cable” setting. This will also help clarify that this setting applies to the cable length on the POE-in port instead of the POE-out ports.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:07 pm
by slech
Hello!
Thank you so much for new WinBox version!

Please make possibility to work as portable app. This will help us to create a crypted(axcrypt) portable usb flash drive with our data. Maybe like utorrent with settings.dat.

Thank you!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:41 pm
by mortar8
Hello. My observations :
- Winbox3 has a tendency to eat all CPU it can. Right after it is started. Stops when minimized. In fact, CPU consumption is dependant on window size.
- Please add an option to disable the leading rows for each new letter. For lists with a few hosts it actually hurts visibility.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:49 pm
by Zdenekhb
Below the search field set as the primary note. Most searches by notes than by IP addresses

-ZS

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:55 am
by Ham
As mentioned by a few people, Tools => Profile crashes winbox

Crashes with all versions of ROS, v4, v5, v6 and winbox Beta

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:53 am
by slech
Ham
Tools --> Profile = all is ok!

ROS = 6.18
OS = Win XP Home x32.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:37 pm
by sovaby
Winbox 3 from wine linux
log window
Image

Old Winbox
log window You can not change the width of the field
Image

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:40 pm
by normis
Yes, log column adjustment is a new feature of winbox3. it was never there in winbox 2

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:25 pm
by sovaby
cyrillic not working in the new version in this window. red circled
In the old version of the English month New What?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:22 pm
by BartoszP
Winbox 3 does not save "Inline comments" settings between sessions. Winbox 2 does.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:02 am
by joegoldman
I'd like to post a feature request for Winbox 3 - have an option (like the hide passwords option) for confirm disable/delete of items with a confirmation dialog.

I was working on something and accidentally moved focus back to winbox and hit delete - there goes one of my main transit link VLAN's had to add back in. Got me thinking it'd be nice to have an option to set it to force a confirmation on disable/delete. I can see how this could get annoying which is why I'm also suggesting it be able to be turned off.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:34 am
by nz_monkey
I'd like to post a feature request for Winbox 3 - have an option (like the hide passwords option) for confirm disable/delete of items with a confirmation dialog.

I was working on something and accidentally moved focus back to winbox and hit delete - there goes one of my main transit link VLAN's had to add back in. Got me thinking it'd be nice to have an option to set it to force a confirmation on disable/delete. I can see how this could get annoying which is why I'm also suggesting it be able to be turned off.
I too have had similar problems, usually accidentally changing route-filter or firewall-filter policy orders when using a trackpad on a laptop. I solved this by making WinBox access Read Only, forcing all changes to be done from the CLI.

This also makes you think a little more before making changes :)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:42 am
by macsrwe
I'd like to post a feature request for Winbox 3 - have an option (like the hide passwords option) for confirm disable/delete of items with a confirmation dialog.

I was working on something and accidentally moved focus back to winbox and hit delete - there goes one of my main transit link VLAN's had to add back in. Got me thinking it'd be nice to have an option to set it to force a confirmation on disable/delete. I can see how this could get annoying which is why I'm also suggesting it be able to be turned off.
I too have had similar problems, usually accidentally changing route-filter or firewall-filter policy orders when using a trackpad on a laptop. I solved this by making WinBox access Read Only, forcing all changes to be done from the CLI.

This also makes you think a little more before making changes :)
The original proposal is ambiguous. If you are in the window where you are talking to a router, you should be able to undo an accidental delete or disable with the counterclockwise arrow button in the upper left. If you are in the initial "list of hosts" window, indeed there is no undo capability there (and maybe should be), but then the mention of "disabling" something doesn't make sense.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:14 am
by nz_monkey

The original proposal is ambiguous. If you are in the window where you are talking to a router, you should be able to undo an accidental delete or disable with the counterclockwise arrow button in the upper left. If you are in the initial "list of hosts" window, indeed there is no undo capability there (and maybe should be), but then the mention of "disabling" something doesn't make sense.
Agreed, this works most of the time. Apart from when you don't have safe mode on, then accidentally delete an interface and cannot get on the router, or move a route filter and stop advertising the management IP's range to the internet.

The Revert button and "Safe Mode" protect the user from the majority of mistakes.

I would be more interested in seeing RouterOS "version" the changes and allow you to "roll-back" to a change point, like JunOS.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:03 am
by joegoldman

I would be more interested in seeing RouterOS "version" the changes and allow you to "roll-back" to a change point, like JunOS.
This is kind of achieved with partitioning - I tend to copy running config to next partition when I am happy that its stable, so I always have a stable config to go back to (same with ROS version). This works better on the bigger routers that have more space - for instance, on the CCR i run 3 partitions so I can have stable ROS/Config, Upgraded ROS and upgraded config, so I should at the least always have a rollback to a version and config that I know to be stable :).

Either way I see an optional confirmation on delete/disable as not too hard of a thing to implement, especially while its still in beta :)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:17 pm
by mortar8
Hello. My observations :
- Winbox3 has a tendency to eat all CPU it can. Right after it is started. Stops when minimized. In fact, CPU consumption is dependant on window size.
- Please add an option to disable the leading rows for each new letter. For lists with a few hosts it actually hurts visibility.
Add to that, on random ocassions some hosts get missing from the list. Restart Winbox3 and they are back.
I'm sorry to say that I am falling back to old winbox. Winbox 3 offers no big advantages over previous version while introducing some annoying things.
You shouldn't post this version as a default download. It's not ready.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:17 am
by BartoszP
WinBox3 should automatically connect to selected host after double-click only when "Keep password" is selected for that host to prevent unsuccessful logins with empty passwords

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:22 am
by Zorro
no chances to have ports lists, like we're already have adress-lists ? ability to have protocols lists(to elegantly/compact white/black-list and manage them across network)would be welcomed too, but not as much necesity as previous request.
and add not only "src MAC" for filters, but also "dst MAC", probably ?

Winbox 3 OSx

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:57 pm
by mdmimoso
Good Afternoon

Why not a Winbox App for Mac Users?

Thanks

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:29 pm
by rextended
Because professional WISP do not use any apple device.

Re: Winbox 3 OSx

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:30 pm
by Zorro
Good Afternoon

Why not a Winbox App for Mac Users?

Thanks
for Mac there a would be made MacBox, probably.
and/or WinBox in fully cross-platform shape, like writenn over Qt libs or Vxwidgets.
Because professional WISP do not use any apple device.
proffestionals not use Mac at all.
thats major credo, major development/design emphasis and major taget consumers category of Apple for decades.

p.s.
but talking seriously, making WinBox available across All platforms, like xBSD, Android, Linux, "MacOS", BeOS, WinMobile would be nice and very helpful. and woul benefit MT in long-term, but demand HR resources&time, MT may lack, sadly.
technically there was some folks(two if i was remember right?), showing mild interest about creating tablets-oriented["metro"-styled] alternative working over API for Android, two years ago, but development even not started, sadly.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:16 am
by negge
v3.0beta3 does not work at all on my pc.
At least on boards with v6 installed - I click connect, it says Logging in, Downloading plugins and then nothing happens - no error message, no winbox window, it just closes.
Tested to open a board with routeros v5 - works normally.
I have the exact same problem. Using beta 3 on Windows 7 64-bit to connect to an RB433. This makes the new Winbox version unusable for now.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:32 pm
by thasser
v3.0beta3 does not work at all on my pc.
At least on boards with v6 installed - I click connect, it says Logging in, Downloading plugins and then nothing happens - no error message, no winbox window, it just closes.
Tested to open a board with routeros v5 - works normally.
I have the exact same problem. Using beta 3 on Windows 7 64-bit to connect to an RB433. This makes the new Winbox version unusable for now.
Same problem here as well.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:22 pm
by zyzelis
Same problem.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:56 am
by tyoma53
the same with rb951-2n on win7 32bit.
strange that mikrotik didn't leave alternative link to old winbox

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:37 am
by jayd2k
All display settings are lost between closing Winbox 3, and starting a new Winbox 3 session to the same device, regardless of the setting of "Load previous session".
Any estimate when this one's going to be fixed? The same issue persists with version 3.0beta3. Thanks.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:13 pm
by wa4zlw
beta 3 doesnt work for me either on W&-64bit doesn't matter what boxes I have on the other side just doesnt come up

leon

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:34 pm
by wa4zlw
when i click on a router to connect, the app crashes

can not paste screenshot in for some reason my laptop is not capturing it

winboxv3beta.exe has stopped working

Check online for a solution and close program
Close the program

was able to get this from the dialog box:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: winboxv3beta.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 53db57a7
Fault Module Name: StackHash_2794
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.18247
Fault Module Timestamp: 521ea8e7
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: 000ce753
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 2794
Additional Information 2: 279499d77f3ea845850e0c6e10050ba8
Additional Information 3: 93f4
Additional Information 4: 93f4fb4e5f7aed69f212f63608a17fe5

Read our privacy statement online:
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C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:35 am
by macsrwe
I believe the following is a new bug in beta 3.

If I sort the site list by address, then quit Winbox, when I relaunch WInbox around a quarter of the Group entries show up blank. If I sort by Group, they sort as blank. If I leave them sorted by Group, then quit and relaunch Winbox, all the Group contents show up again.

This is similar to the (still unfixed) issue in which if you quit Winbox when in the Neighbors tab, when you relaunch Winbox and go to the Managed tab, most of your sites have simply disappeared, and you have to relaunch Winbox again to get them back. This one hits me every day.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:18 pm
by joegoldman
My winbox 2 is constantly overwriting and removing ALL group info from winbox 3 beta.

It would be nice to have in winbox a 'load configuration file' or 'choose config file' so you could potentially have multiple, 1 for 1 network, 1 for the other etc.

Or at the least - while this is on beta, create a separate winboxbeta.cfg, and on first load if winboxbeta.cfg doesnt exist copy details from winbox.cfg but keep them separate.

I'm loving the sort by group, would be good if the Group heading when 'show categories' is set, could be collapsable as well, so you can just have all closed except for the group your interested in.

Just a few ideas =)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:44 am
by Zorro
beta 3 doesnt work for me either on W&-64bit doesn't matter what boxes I have on the other side just doesnt come up

leon
worked fine on my Win8.1up and Win7 sp x64 boxes. just in case of something specific - try update ACT from MS sites or use "compatibility" tab on WinBox binaries, as desperate/temporal measure.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:36 am
by joegoldman
I'd also like to report that when I was on an OmniTik - I was specifically looking at the Wireless Registration table but when a client registers it crashed my Winbox. Unfortunately I can't get meaningful stack traces as I am running in WINE on Ubuntu. Not sure if it happens with other wireless AP routers, I will have to test.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:43 pm
by ProfHawking
I also have the "Crash when connecting" issue with Winbox Beta3. Beta2 works fine. I'm running Windows 8 x64, reasonably fresh build.

Winbox loads fine to the point where it's connecting to the router, seems to download plugins etc and tries to log in, then it quits and you get the "winxbox.exe has stopped working" dialog.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: winbox.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 53db57a7
Fault Module Name: StackHash_698a
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.18247
Fault Module Timestamp: 521ea8e7
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: 000ce753
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 698a
Additional Information 2: 698a2fe26df62048442b6533d223699a
Additional Information 3: 4166
Additional Information 4: 4166c4e4c0624d7078e809242961e1ca



PS: Running as Administrator, or using compatability options seems to make no difference.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:23 am
by iqt
I have to check the Open In New Window box, otherwise Winbox v3.0beta3 crashes after pressing the Connect button (Windows 7 SP1).

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:48 am
by ProfHawking
I have to check the Open In New Window box, otherwise Winbox v3.0beta3 crashes after pressing the Connect button (Windows 7 SP1).
Confirmed, this also works for me. Cheers!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:37 am
by macsrwe
Since beta 3, the Group function is just flaky.

When launched in Managed mode, sometimes all the Group fields are populated (I have a Group defined for every unit), and sometimes some (maybe 10-20%) show as blank. If you sort them, the ones that appear blank will all sort first. Yet if you single-click on one of them, the five top fields (Connect to .. Group) all come up properly, including the correct Group.

When launched in Managed mode, and I add a new router with a non-blank group, the router always appears in the list with a blank group. The group of the new router will not appear until I quit and relaunch, and that's assuming I don't encounter one of those launches where 10-20% of the groups show as blank.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:39 pm
by kobuki
After the announcement that 6.20 will only work with Winbox3, I started testing it a bit. I'm using Windows 7 SP1 x64 and have found that it can only save 5.x window sessions (it might save them but definitely can't load them). 6.x sessions are always started with a blank window, regardless of the state of the "Load Previous Session" switch. Please fix this before mandating the use of Winbox3 for newer ROS versions.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:23 am
by noyo
winbox.png

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:43 pm
by timberwolf
Noyo, why is a changed button location a bug?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:46 pm
by normis
We suggest to read the label of any buttons that you intend to push. This will get you out of most trouble in life.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:52 pm
by noyo
For me this is a problem, because I am a visual learner and almost clear the wlan on the mast :?
This change is very cumbersome, because of that you can clear the wlan1.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:42 pm
by mrcontego
Nice upgrade.

Bug to report - when using a laptop with a dock and external monitor and have Winbox running on the monitor, if you later try to operate winbox, it "opens" on the missing display. there is no option to move the window back to the main display - haven't found a standard windows option / keypress that will return it to the display.

Thanks.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:50 pm
by wa4zlw
Hey Normis...As I, and others, have mentioned this V3 version is a show stopper since it crashes on W7. What are you guys doing to fix this. I also agree not to hold us hostage on buggy software.

Thanks leon

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:10 pm
by tyoma53
solution was already there. thanks for this.
I have to check the Open In New Window box, otherwise Winbox v3.0beta3 crashes after pressing the Connect button (Windows 7 SP1).

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:33 am
by macsrwe
When running bandwidth test in Winbox 3, the little box at the bottom that shows TX and RX is very undependable. If you run a TX test, collect some data, then run an RX test, the RX graph lines start from the left hand side of the existing TX graph lines, and the box at the bottom reports nothing except the old TX figure, until the RX graph lines reach the right hand edge, then suddenly the box reports RX figures. Overall, the test runs properly, but the box does not report it properly.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:49 am
by Zorro
btw is ANY chance to make WinBox portable(eg: re-write it over Qt or Vx? ) in future?
ie available not only as Windows binary but on all Desktop and probably mobile plaforms at-once.
in WinBox 4, 5, maybe ? :-"|

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:13 pm
by JJX
Winbox version: 3.beta3
Windows 7 SP1 x64
Mikrotik version 6.19

One more bug:

- Connecto to a mt
- Press QuickSet
-Press Cancel
- Winbox crash! If does not crash, press again QuickSet. It will crash all the times
After the announcement that 6.20 will only work with Winbox3, I started testing it a bit. I'm using Windows 7 SP1 x64 and have found that it can only save 5.x window sessions (it might save them but definitely can't load them). 6.x sessions are always started with a blank window, regardless of the state of the "Load Previous Session" switch. Please fix this before mandating the use of Winbox3 for newer ROS versions.
I think its too early as winbox v3 is still too buggy!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:33 am
by joegoldman
btw is ANY chance to make WinBox portable(eg: re-write it over Qt or Vx? ) in future?
ie available not only as Windows binary but on all Desktop and probably mobile plaforms at-once.
in WinBox 4, 5, maybe ? :-"|
Their cross platform solution is Webfig - so it is unlikely.

For mobile devices - you have the API to make clients with. I'd imagine full Winbox functionality wouldn't be used too much on iOS/Android, more so just to monitor and grab stats which can be done via API.

Also - winbox appears to run quite OK in WINE on *nix and OSX. I use Ubuntu exclusively and run both winbox and winbox beta no problems.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:04 am
by macsrwe
I'd imagine full Winbox functionality wouldn't be used too much on iOS/Android, more so just to monitor and grab stats which can be done via API.
When I'm up on a roof or a tower trying to repair a node that isn't communicating, and need to see what a remote tower is seeing as I try to reconnect, I'd be extremely happy to have Winbox on my iPhone or iPad. Instead, I have to use webfig, which is extremely awkward and ponderous on a small screen.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:58 pm
by JJX
"Escape" is not closing the windows in the new version

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:05 am
by joegoldman
I'd imagine full Winbox functionality wouldn't be used too much on iOS/Android, more so just to monitor and grab stats which can be done via API.
When I'm up on a roof or a tower trying to repair a node that isn't communicating, and need to see what a remote tower is seeing as I try to reconnect, I'd be extremely happy to have Winbox on my iPhone or iPad. Instead, I have to use webfig, which is extremely awkward and ponderous on a small screen.
What functionality does Winbox have that a mobile optimised app using the API couldn't do?

Keeping in mind - due to the locked down nature of mobile OS's, even with a proper 'winbox' client from MTik, MAC discovery/connection would probably be unavailable?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:33 am
by macsrwe
What functionality does Winbox have that a mobile optimised app using the API couldn't do?
That's not a very interesting question unless you have one to suggest, and I don't know of any. My point is that I need to do more than just "monitor and collect stats." I also need to control and reconfigure.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:14 am
by MostafaAta
I have a problem with this version, this version don't save session for me.
Is it normal or there is an error on my PC.

Router board : rb951ui -2Hnd
Router board version : 6.16
My OS : Win 8.1 pro x64

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:10 am
by littlebill
add WOL to GUI, also add the ability to change mac for interface in winbox as well!!!!

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:29 am
by macsrwe
Is there any estimate of when the next beta will be available where we will see some of the bigger problems fixed? Having to relaunch Winbox to get my entire router list back, and having to re-open the windows I purposely left open on every connection I access is getting very tedious. Thanks.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:57 am
by tholderbaum
There is a bug that i cannot stand

When using winbox version 3, it will not let me copy and paste anything via either CTRL+V or right-click to paste.

I run about 30 mikrotiks all over Florida and each one has at least 2 separate admin accounts, each with 24 character randomly generated password which I keep in our password database for the rest of my team. My policy states that passwords cannot be cached on any local computer, or stored in an unencrypted format.

SO what we need to do is look up the username and password combination in our Password Database, and then copy these credentials to the Winbox interface, and then log in. But in version3 we cannot do that.

Another use case, In setting up passwords on a new Mikrotik, we use our password generator to generate random 24 - 36 character passwords for admin credentials. Basically, we don't reuse passwords anywhere and the minimum credentials are randomly generated and at least 24 characters long. SO what we want to do is generate the password in our password system, and then copy it to Winbox when we create the credential to prevent miskeying the new password. This works in version 2.x but not in 3.

The final use case is that we have a lab where we develop requested rules for clients. When they ask for a new function or config change, we write the rules in our demo equipment, and then we export the command using the export function to get the code for that rule. Then we login to their Mikrotik and apply it in a terminal window. (We sell a Mikrotik Management service where we manage and maintain their firewalls.) Again this works in version 2.x but not in 3.

Essentially, copy and paste simply does not work for us in Version 3 at all.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:33 am
by garlicbulb
Log window enhancements gone in B3.

If I start Winbox3B2 and connect to a router, the log window allows resizing the columns. If I start Winbox3B3 and connect to the same route, the log window does not allow resizing columns.

The B2 log window has filtering and the B3 log window has a freeze button (save as Winbox2).

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:05 pm
by Abdock
Trying winbox 3, and i cannot seem to save sessions, i have tried all, do not load and then exit, it would just load blank, anybody else with same issues ?

thanks,

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:02 am
by macsrwe
Trying winbox 3, and i cannot seem to save sessions, i have tried all, do not load and then exit, it would just load blank, anybody else with same issues ?
Many people have already encountered and reported this.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:04 am
by matugm
Some bugs I found on winbox 3 beta 3:

- Some windows don't autorefresh: for example 'Firewall > Address List' and 'Wireless Tables > Registration'
- I get random crashes that don't seem to be connected to a specific action.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:08 am
by littlebill
i have tried 4 computers on beta 3.3 non work. it shows logging in, and that was it??

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:38 am
by Abdock
I was going to try and shift to ver 3, and made all the groups, all looked nice, till i accidentally fired up ver 2, and all groups were lost !

the only session which was saved was with a router running x86 5.26, all the other i just cannot save session. I hope it does not become mandatory on Router OS next release.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:37 pm
by macsrwe
I was going to try and shift to ver 3, and made all the groups, all looked nice, till i accidentally fired up ver 2, and all groups were lost !
Yup. Export your router list to a file regularly to protect against loss in case you should ever again fire up v2 by mistake. :-(

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:22 am
by ouss89
it cannot scan the device?
old version can.

you can press neighbours so it shows the devices

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:20 am
by pukkita
This is not to report a bug but a feature I didn't expect!

Just noticed that under Os X (winebottled) drag n drop is working from finder to Winbox (not from Winbox to finder) but most useful: from winbox window to other winbox window (between routers! great!!)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:30 am
by smarag
feature a address book in cloud service for sync with username & password

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:18 pm
by wrobli
When new version avalible?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:51 pm
by rmmccann
feature a address book in cloud service for sync with username & password
I wouldn't want my router logins sync'd with the cloud, but the ability to save to a central location would be nice.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:42 am
by scampbell
I'd imagine full Winbox functionality wouldn't be used too much on iOS/Android, more so just to monitor and grab stats which can be done via API.
When I'm up on a roof or a tower trying to repair a node that isn't communicating, and need to see what a remote tower is seeing as I try to reconnect, I'd be extremely happy to have Winbox on my iPhone or iPad. Instead, I have to use webfig, which is extremely awkward and ponderous on a small screen.
What functionality does Winbox have that a mobile optimised app using the API couldn't do?

Keeping in mind - due to the locked down nature of mobile OS's, even with a proper 'winbox' client from MTik, MAC discovery/connection would probably be unavailable?
My mobile (Android and MAC) happily discovers Sonos or Google Chromecast devices on layer 2 - why not Mikrotik ? :D

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:00 pm
by conecting
probably found a bug.
imidiatlly after login thru Winbox v3.0beta3 and hit quick set and than just hit OK button after this winbox freeze or just close itself.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:31 pm
by ricky011
here also, win7, if I don't use "open in new window" winbox craches after "connect"...

bad software :D

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:17 pm
by JJX
So many bugs/problems and still no new version...

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:00 pm
by Athan
So many bugs/problems and still no new version...
That's what I wondering too! We're stuck in buggy beta 3 :?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:47 am
by gnulab
Hitting SAVE does not save the routers addresses.

I'm using Windows 7 64 bit, with Winbox v3.0 beta 3.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:57 pm
by zilaev
i made export saved my host in WinBox v3.
And When i opened exported files by notepad, i saw that the saved password for router doesn't encrypted.
it's very big hole in security.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:39 pm
by jarda
It's the same in v2 also as I saw some years ago.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:17 pm
by Chupaka
i made export saved my host in WinBox v3.
And When i opened exported files by notepad, i saw that the saved password for router doesn't encrypted.
it's very big hole in security.
export or backup?

to protect export, use "export hide-sensitive=yes" command

to protect backups, use backup encryption (available in last versions)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:44 am
by elgrandiegote
No news about winbox 3 ?, stay in beta 3 ?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:09 pm
by 2400baud
There's no longer a pointer to Winbox 2 from http://www.mikrotik.com/download
I inadvertently grabbed this as I was setting up a solution involving some Mikrotiks.
This seems more like an 'alpha' release than a late beta -- crashy, doesn't save sessions, etc.
NOT GOOD.

I'd strongly encourage Mikrotik to reinstate the Winbox 2 link.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:02 pm
by jarda
Winbox 2 is downloadable from any mikrotik device Web page.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:28 am
by jecartas
I am unable to use this in Win7 x64.
The window opens with a list of previously saved devices, but nothing appears in the top panel.

In Linux it is better, but I see the same issues others have mentioned with new devices not saving until winbox is restarted.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:03 am
by Aaron315
I am also now experiencing the issue with Winbox3 Beta 3 where in on Windows 7 64 machines I see the list of discovered decives, but no form fields. This just started int he last few days, and affects more than one machine. No changes on machines save for the last round of Windows Updates.

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Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:09 pm
by lemosh
У меня Winbox beta3. Открываю PING, когда нажимаю на окне PING кнопку CLOSE закрывается полностью Winbox

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:29 am
by jaytcsd
In 1280 x 768 mode I can't see any fields below lifetime in the IPsec / peer window, the 3 missing fields do show up in 1280 x 1024.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:23 am
by svetozar
Can't set CIDR notated network address into src.address field (ip > routes > rules).

192.168.1.0/30 - okay
192.168.1.10/30 - not okay
192.168.1.20/30 - okay
192.168.1.30/30 - not okay
192.168.1.40/30 - okay
192.168.1.50/30 - not okay
192.168.1.56/30 - okay

Is it normal behavior?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:04 pm
by skillful
Yes, it is normal behaviour.

You must use the network address not node IP address.

Take for example, the node IP address 192.168.1.10/30. The network address is 192.168.1.8, broadcast address is 192.168.1.11 while the two nodes IP addresses are 192.168.1.9 and 192.168.1.10. In order to represent the range of IP addresses from 192.168.1.8 - 192.168.1.11, the CIDR notation is 192.168.1.8/30.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:10 pm
by svetozar
Yes, it is normal behaviour.

You must use the network address not node IP address.

Take for example, the node IP address 192.168.1.10/30. The network address is 192.168.1.8, broadcast address is 192.168.1.11 while the two nodes IP addresses are 192.168.1.9 and 192.168.1.10. In order to represent the range of IP addresses from 192.168.1.8 - 192.168.1.11, the CIDR notation is 192.168.1.8/30.
thanks, got it, this is cidr network not node src.addr

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:36 pm
by Buzz
great work

is there anyway to add inline comment to active tab in hotspot ?? (show comments column in active tab)
i think it will be a good idea , because in my network users authenticate with their mac address , and i want to know the names (comment) of the active users from the same tab (active tab) without going to users tab

by the way in hosts there is inline comment , but is shows nothing in comment column

thank you in advance

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:44 pm
by Buzz
in hosts comment column get comments from ip bindings not from users , but in active we need to show comments from users tab not from ip bindings

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:19 pm
by boskarin
Hi,

where can i download Winbox ver.2?


I'm not satisfied with v3beta3.

It doesn't remember last session, and my list of managed sites is not full (when i open winbox in neighbors tab)

-Open winbox
-Click on neighbors tab
-Close winbox
-Open winbox again (now winbox opens in neighbors tab)
-Click on Managed tab (and managed list is not full. I see only about 20 saved sites of obout 100)

-To resolve this issue i need to close winbox when managed tab is open and run winbox again (then the managed sites tab is full)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:00 pm
by jarda
You can download it from whatever routeros device. See its homepage.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:08 pm
by boskarin
You can download it from whatever routeros device. See its homepage.
Thank You, didn.t know that. I don't use webfig

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:56 am
by jarda
It has nothing with webfig. It's just file download, nothing more. Glad I helped you.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:09 am
by ebreyit
I am also now experiencing the issue with Winbox3 Beta 3 where in on Windows 7 64 machines I see the list of discovered decives, but no form fields. This just started int he last few days, and affects more than one machine. No changes on machines save for the last round of Windows Updates.

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I see from the top bar of the Winbox window that you have TeamViewer installed.

Click the double headed arrow (top right of the application window) and select disable this feature and Winbox 3b3 will work as expected. Took me a while to figure that one out.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:17 am
by macsrwe
So is this project officially dead, or in a coma, or what? There is a long list of known bugs, many reported by multiple people, and no new version for over four months. I continued to use V3 in anticipation of some of the biggest problems being addressed in a timely update, but I am about ready to drop back to V2 because even without the functions, it is a superior interface to how the beta behaves currently.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:58 am
by Aaron315
I am also now experiencing the issue with Winbox3 Beta 3 where in on Windows 7 64 machines I see the list of discovered decives, but no form fields. This just started int he last few days, and affects more than one machine. No changes on machines save for the last round of Windows Updates.

Image

I see from the top bar of the Winbox window that you have TeamViewer installed.

Click the double headed arrow (top right of the application window) and select disable this feature and Winbox 3b3 will work as expected. Took me a while to figure that one out.

Disabling team viewer integration for windox 3b3 fixed my issue. Thank you!!

Happy New Year.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:59 pm
by macsrwe
i made export saved my host in WinBox v3.
And When i opened exported files by notepad, i saw that the saved password for router doesn't encrypted.
it's very big hole in security.
export or backup?

to protect export, use "export hide-sensitive=yes" command

to protect backups, use backup encryption (available in last versions)
I suspect he's referring to exporting the winbox database itself, not exporting on his MikroTik.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:03 pm
by ebreyit
Differences in Winbox.

In case you haven't noticed yet Winbox 3b3 isn't showing all of the new features added in the latest ROS, but they are visible in The older Winbox.

In the link below you can see two screen shots I've sent to Mikrotik support (Ticket#2015010966000616) showing bits like Cap Naming Format that are missing in Winbox 3b3 but do show up AND work in The older Winbox.



http://1drv.ms/1yKOJHf

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:38 am
by Monkeyrider
Ok so i just pulled a RB1100AHX2 out of the box and Winbox crashes every time. This also happens when i try yo connect to another Mikrotik i have in use. but it works just fine on the 50 or so other Mikrotik devices i connect to.

I am running the Latest Winbox 3.0 Beta3 and the RB1100AHX2 has 6.19 out of the box. the other device is a RB450G and has 6.5 on it. i added the system resource print below. any thoughts or help on this will be GREATLY appreciated!!!


uptime: 6w5d4h7m43s
version: 6.5
build-time: Oct/16/2013 15:32:33
free-memory: 196.0MiB
total-memory: 256.0MiB
cpu: MIPS 24Kc V7.4
cpu-count: 1
cpu-frequency: 680MHz
cpu-load: 2%
free-hdd-space: 492.5MiB
total-hdd-space: 511.8MiB
write-sect-since-reboot: 68
write-sect-total: 379
bad-blocks: 0%
architecture-name: mipsbe
board-name: RB450G
platform: MikroTik

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:19 pm
by ebreyit
Differences in Winbox.

In case you haven't noticed yet Winbox 3b3 isn't showing all of the new features added in the latest ROS, but they are visible in The older Winbox.

In the link below you can see two screen shots I've sent to Mikrotik support (Ticket#2015010966000616) showing bits like Cap Naming Format that are missing in Winbox 3b3 but do show up AND work in The older Winbox.



http://1drv.ms/1yKOJHf
Under CAPsMAN > Interfaces > Manager
Package Path and upgrade policy is also missing in Winbox 3b3 but present in the older winbox

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:23 pm
by normis
we have a ton of great new features for Winbox 3, we will be releasing a new beta shortly

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:50 pm
by jarda
Hope you are sure that it is capable to be working at least like v2. Otherwise take your time for testing and debugging.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:03 pm
by w0lt
Hope you are sure that it is capable to be working at least like v2. Otherwise take your time for testing and debugging.
I whole heartedly agree !!! :)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:15 pm
by noyo
When a new version winbox?
Because I've got used to v3, but there are errors that are stressful.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:30 pm
by chechito
i try winbox 3 beta 3 for 15 minutes and rolling back to version2 intermediately because:

2 crashes
not loading previous session

its better to wait on version 2

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:15 am
by bajodel
Hope you are sure that it is capable to be working at least like v2. Otherwise take your time for testing and debugging.
amen :D

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:31 am
by normis
We are already on beta12, so progress is going fast. It is much more stable than v2 ever was

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:37 am
by BartoszP
So share with us...let us test it. Beta 3 is so annoying.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:22 pm
by tomaskir
We are already on beta12, so progress is going fast. It is much more stable than v2 ever was
So PLEASE PLEASE release that beta version?

Why keep us on beta3 which has many issues?

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:31 pm
by normis
We expect a RC1 today

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:47 am
by mcdebugger
We expect a RC1 today
Good news. Waiting for new beta :)
Also wanted to note that beta3 works fine for me and I switched to Winbox 3 since beta 2 using it till now. Using it on Windows XP and under Wine on Gentoo Linux.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:32 am
by BartoszP
Win XP is dead :D but for most of us more than usable however it is not the whole world.
Winbox + newer Windows is not perfect couple.

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:24 pm
by Mendesvel
Anyone noticed a strange behavior if you configure vrrp trough winbox 3.0 beta3?

we had to switch to the old winbox(2) to configure a stable vrrp...

Normis is the winbox RC1 expected today?

ty

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:25 pm
by normis
We found a minor bug and will fix it before building RC1. Hopefully within a few hours. There are so many exciting new features, I am sure all of you will love it :)

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:30 pm
by Mendesvel
We found a minor bug and will fix it before building RC1. Hopefully within a few hours. There are so many exciting new features, I am sure all of you will love it :)
Normis... now you made me laugh (in a good sense), i will be excited when i see a stable RouterOS x64 (no leaks, no kernel panic, no watchdog rebooting , stable software,etc...) running on my CCR's.. ;)

That is one i am sure all would love :)

Just a nice example on 2x CCR1009 with SFP+

Since we upgrade to 6.25 Bandwith test didin't work anymore... completely broken... (yes i've tested 6.26rc4 with fresh install)

Rolled back to 6.10 and the bandwith test via cli gives this perl....

back 2 back

status: running
duration: 4m30s
tx-current: 12.3Tbps <---------------------
tx-10-second-average: 1232.2Gbps
tx-total-average: 3.2Gbps
rx-current: 9.9Gbps
rx-10-second-average: 9.9Gbps
rx-total-average: 9.6Gbps
lost-packets: 9649
random-data: no
direction: both

tx-current: 12.3Tbps ??

Lol nice... can't you break anything more? like... telnet is working! can you please break it on 6.27? thanks

Note: Bandwith test on 6.14 looks better via cli...

status: running
duration: 1m48s
tx-current: 9.5Gbps
tx-10-second-average: 9.6Gbps
tx-total-average: 8.2Gbps
rx-current: 9.9Gbps
rx-10-second-average: 9.9Gbps
rx-total-average: 8.4Gbps
lost-packets: 5337
random-data: no
direction: both

Re: Winbox 3

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:45 am
by macsrwe
We found a minor bug and will fix it before building RC1. Hopefully within a few hours. There are so many exciting new features, I am sure all of you will love it :)
I have been checking the "Check Updates" button for three days waiting for the update and it doesn't show up. Finally I suspected the button was not working, and found the update on the download page. So be aware that the button does not work.

Re: Winbox 3 beta

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:20 am
by normis
It's possible it didn't work in beta3, but we will check what could be wrong there

Re: Winbox 3 beta

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:16 am
by shura
Hi! I've tried to use the new 3.0rc1 and I found that it did nothing when I pressing Enter while the focus is at any field like "Connect to:" or "Password:" (I'm used to type a password then press Enter key to get connected). I found that it is possible to connect only by mouse click on "Connect" button. I've tried few times. While I'm typing this message, I tried again, and, a miracle, now it works! Hmm... Fantastic bug report reaction time! :)

Re: Winbox 3 beta

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:17 am
by macsrwe
Today I tried using the multiple open feature. When I clicked connect all, it opened one router, another copy of the directory window, the second router, a third copy of the directory window, then the third router. Surely that can't be intended operation.

Also the newsletter says something about a global in-line comment option. I haven't been able to find anything that looks like that.

Re: Winbox 3 beta

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:54 am
by normis