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New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:54 pm
by andriys
Hi guys! New forum theme is nice.
Though, I have several comments/questions.
  1. About the new look of the list of topics. Topic captions are of the same font and almost the same color as the following line containing author and topic creation date, which makes looking through the list of topics more difficult then it is used to be. Please make topic captions brighter/more standing out.
  2. Where is the ROS code syntax highlighting gone?
  3. What happened to karma?
Also (not related to the new forum theme) since you've created a separate forum for announcements, can you please stop sticking topics like "6.22 released!" to multiple forums at once, because this makes some forum functions like links to the first unread post in a topic misbehave badly.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:06 pm
by BartoszP
A. Fonts make forum long...it means too many pages to scroll...especially with wide screens.
B. Too light colors = "where is the light gray link on dark white background ?"
C. Real admins use keayboard on real computers, not tablets :-) so please make smaller icons.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:37 pm
by tomaskir
Agree about all the above - I really dont like this too light and too bright color scheme.

Also:
1) "View unread posts" functionality is gone.
2) All "View x posts" buttons now require one more click. Before they were right at the top.
This is not much, but its an extra click, wait for manu to appear, click again every single time... just wasting time.
3) With this color scheme, everything seriously blends together...
4) The link between a post and a user's signature is too thin - not visible enough.
5) ADD KARMA BACK!

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:03 pm
by nickshore
Please can we have the old theme back !

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:39 pm
by boen_robot
The "View unread posts" is not gone - it's at the "Forum" menu on top, renamed to "View new posts" ("unread" is implied).

I don't mind the color scheme, but the "big"-ness of the fonts and boxes is a little off putting indeed. I like Windows 8.1's start menu, but even I don't spend most of my time on it, so...

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:46 pm
by tomaskir
The "View unread posts" is not gone - it's at the "Forum" menu on top, renamed to "View new posts" ("unread" is implied).
It is gone.
"View unread posts" and "View new posts" are 2 totally different functions.
"unread" is NOT implied, as "View new posts" shows posts already red.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:58 pm
by boen_robot
The "View unread posts" is not gone - it's at the "Forum" menu on top, renamed to "View new posts" ("unread" is implied).
It is gone.
"View unread posts" and "View new posts" are 2 totally different functions.
"unread" is NOT implied, as "View new posts" shows posts already red.
Ah. I see what you mean. Yeah, they're shown being highlighted differently, but shown non the less indeed.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:04 pm
by Aveyer
I think this new look is great and was long overdue.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:47 pm
by Sob
Oh no, the plague got here too. :( Well, it sure does look modern, congratulations. Too bad "modern" these days means big, space-wasting, contrast-less, eye-burning, ... did I forget something? All in all, nothing positive.

Any chance you could offer an optional alternative look without all these shortcomings? Something like previous one?

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:52 pm
by CyberTod
+1 for View unread posts. It is the biggest problem for me right now.
Also as other mentioned all can be made smaller. Maybe an option to change font size or other visibility settings.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:36 pm
by jarda
Please, go back to old fashion look style for phpbb forum, or at least enable the users to set the style individually. This "new" style is wasting the screen space that was used much more effectively before.
And is awful.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:39 pm
by Caci99
Too much space wasted, among others big margins on the left and on the right.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:45 pm
by NAB
Not nice. Not at all nice.

My main bugbear is that posts take up too much space and it's difficult to see where one post ends and the next reply starts.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:50 pm
by NAB
The spacing's all wrong. The horizontal line shows the break between posts where everything's all crammed together and the arrowed area shows white space I didn't create which creates a false break between posts.

The whole thing's horribly clunky.
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Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:31 pm
by jarda
Did we also loose karma buttons and values?

I wonder why Mikrotik wastes time for making such unuseful things instead taking care of correcting the bugs in ROS.

Everything here is getting worse and worse... How to??

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:18 am
by tsouzar
I wonder why Mikrotik wastes time for making such unuseful things instead taking care of correcting the bugs in ROS.
Can't they work on more than one thing at once?

I enjoyed new forum look. Only problems is lack of contrast, color sheme which doesn't look like MikroTik.com (where is red and green?) and already reported missing karma module.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:04 am
by lambert
The "View unread posts" is not gone - it's at the "Forum" menu on top, renamed to "View new posts" ("unread" is implied).
It is gone.
"View unread posts" and "View new posts" are 2 totally different functions.
"unread" is NOT implied, as "View new posts" shows posts already red.
Ah. I see what you mean. Yeah, they're shown being highlighted differently, but shown non the less indeed.
Maybe bookmark:
http://forum.mikrotik.com/search.php?se ... nreadposts

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:10 am
by normis
I wonder why Mikrotik wastes time for making such unuseful things instead taking care of correcting the bugs in ROS.
Good news, we have a separate team of people that work on design and brochures, this will not slow down RouterOS development :)
  • spacing is corrected
  • readability of topic list improved
  • post body text visibility improved and signature/title made lighter
  • unread posts is back
  • contrast improved with new color scheme

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:32 am
by docmarius
I miss the "mark forums read" button on the board index page. It is there under the "forum" dropdown list, but I still miss it as a single click action.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:58 am
by jarda
I wonder why Mikrotik wastes time for making such unuseful things instead taking care of correcting the bugs in ROS.
You really think of us so little, that you believe designers are also fixing RouterOS bugs :) ?
No, normis, not at all. Even the people are not the same, the money paid for their output is the same. If you have money for such things why you do not have money to pay the good and experienced software development quality manager that will take care of your development process to ensure you are not breaking in subsequent release anything that was good in previous release? Why you spend money on the forum look and not on dude, for example?

Do you think that this change will bring new customers and rise your profit? Or how it should help you? I have not seen any reason for such change, so why you did so?

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:19 am
by NathanA
I think the new design is decent, especially with the new tweaks...the new blue is much better, thank you.

The only thing that I find kind of annoying and...corny is the "rubber band" effect that you see within the body of the page when you scroll back up to the top. In most browsers, it just looks kind of weird, and sometimes in Firefox it prevents me from scrolling all the way up to the top on my first try (don't know why, and sometimes is not reproducible). But it looks especially bad when you are browsing on Safari in OS X Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, or Yosemite, because Safari already has a rubber-banding effect that it applies, so you see it happen two times: once in the middle of the page (because of your code), and then at the same time with the whole page (because of Safari).

It wasn't a completely bad idea and it was worth a try, but it turns out in the end, after having tried it, that it doesn't look or work that well and doesn't really add much. My recommendation would be to get rid of it. Hopefully whoever spent the time that they did to make that effect work on this page won't be offended by my dislike of it. :)

-- Nathan

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:24 am
by normis
Guys, this is a theme. MikroTik employees did not spend any time with it. It's just the best we found. We will tweak it as much as we can, but don't think that RouterOS bugs were not fixed because we spent money on this :)

P.S.: weird scroll effects disabled

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:37 am
by tomaskir
  • spacing is corrected
  • readability of topic list improved
  • post body text visibility improved and signature/title made lighter
  • unread posts is back
  • contrast improved with new color scheme
Thank you, it is better now!

A few things however:
1) Additional clicks and waiting for a menu to appear are still present if clicking any of the "View x posts".
Before they were visible and clickable right away.
2) View your posts is located away from all other "View x posts" buttons.
Sometime I click the big FORUM button, wait for the list to appear and then realize I wanted to click "View your posts". (I guess that is just me not being used to the new layout.)
3) Karma is still gone :(
4) Sigs are now (in my oppinion) too washed out.
5) Divider lines between posts, between the sig, between the left-side user info space and the post, etc... are all too close in color to background color, those should be more prominent in my oppinion.

Other then these, the new color-scheme/layout is now much better.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:37 am
by honzam
And karma is where?

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:40 am
by NathanA
P.S.: weird scroll effects disabled
Yes they are! That feels much better. Thank you!

-- Nathan

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:49 am
by bajodel
topic subscription (status and request) ..only at bottom now, not good for me

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:08 am
by nz_monkey
The new look is great. It makes everything feel modern and clean.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:50 am
by mcdebugger
Wow! Fresh look! I like it, feels good :)

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:59 am
by duvi
The design is nice, but formerly it only took 1 click to "View unread posts" or "Mark forums read". Now it takes 1 click, 1 mouse movement and another click.
Seems not that big a deal, but slows done workflow much.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:20 pm
by jarda
Ok, ok. Someone likes, someone not. Someone is irritated by half of screen unused on the sides, someone not. I will stop talking against new scheme if you let me choose the old scheme in my preferences. Let all of us have what we like. Let us choose.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:12 pm
by BartoszP
Better...but...
- smaller fonts = shorter posts
- make posts' border more visible to trace their "flow" easier

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:10 pm
by normis
Jarda, what do you mean by unused screen? Make sure you are using a modern browser, and have tried to refresh the page. Sometimes cache can give strange results. here is mine:
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Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:30 pm
by SystemErrorMessage
The squares are too big for the text. I also prefer a darker theme. Also widescreen unfriendly.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:45 pm
by Caci99
I am using latest firefox, and here is the empty spaces left and right when in full screen

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:24 pm
by jarda
Exactly. To which version of firefox I should upgrade in order to get full screen view? :-)

No, I would not like to. I would like to be able to select prosilver theme as my default. Please, allow it.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:29 pm
by rmmccann
Absolutely hate the new format. As others have noted, the contrast is way off so it can be difficult at first glance to find where one post begins and another ends.

Also suffering from the lack of screen real estate usage on Chrome. Lots of wasted space that could be used for the topic and replies text.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:04 pm
by docmarius
Would it be such a problem to leave both themes available and let the user decide what he wants in his preferences?
phpBB allows this.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:06 pm
by jarda
That's what I am asking for.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:04 pm
by JanezFord
Would it be such a problem to leave both themes available and let the user decide what he wants in his preferences?
phpBB allows this.
I must agree ...

JF.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:44 am
by jebz
Some images are quite large. Can the images be set to resize to the width of the browser window? As a forum contributor I would try to resize an image before posting to increase the readability. But inline resizing would be good for the large images.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:54 am
by SystemErrorMessage
Switchable themes so those of us who view the forum on widescreens can at least see it properly. Full screen mode doesnt change content width.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:57 am
by javajox
I would prefer the older design, is it possible to switch the older theme ?

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:27 pm
by bax
I would prefer the older design, is it possible to switch the older theme ?
I also ... why not allow old theme users who want old style ?

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:05 am
by Clauu
I would prefer the older design, is it possible to switch the older theme ?
Me tooo.. please let us choose our desired style

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:29 pm
by plisken
Please can we have the old theme back !
Yes agree

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:31 am
by changeip
oh goodness, this is the worst theme ever. Takes me 3 times as long to read because its all big and bubbly. Please let us choose or just go back and fix it for everyone.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:05 am
by docmarius
I miss prosilver more and more...

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:35 am
by jarda
If you all want the same, why not to put the same singature like I have:

Please, allow users to select prosilver theme in their profiles. Let us choose!

into your profile / signature: http://forum.mikrotik.com/ucp.php?i=pro ... =signature ?

Lets join in this together. If the forum will be full of the same request, maybe things could change. Especially if we all know how easy it is...

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:36 am
by normis
If you all want the same, why not to put the same singature like I have:

Please, allow users to select prosilver theme in their profiles. Let us choose!

into your profile / signature: http://forum.mikrotik.com/ucp.php?i=pro ... =signature ?

Lets join in this together. If the forum will be full of the same request, maybe things could change. Especially if we all know how easy it is...
you can do this in the "user control panel" now

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:13 pm
by BartoszP
Normis....you are my hero now :D :D

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:23 pm
by docmarius
Thank you so much!

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:30 pm
by markom
Please let us choose our desired style. If someone like new design then go to facebook.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:35 pm
by normis
markom. please read a few posts earlier. you can already change the style yourself

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:51 pm
by tomaskir
Thank you, thank you!
subsilver2, welcome back.

Now im not neceserally against the new theme, just please improve it more. I think there have been enough coments in this whole thread to tell you what is wrong with it by now.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:21 pm
by andriys
Thank you so much!
Modern style is nice, but the old one is just much better!

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:02 pm
by bax
markom. please read a few posts earlier. you can already change the style yourself
Thanks Normis !

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:47 pm
by Sob
You won't believe what a crazy dream I had. I came to MikroTik forum and it had this strange flat style with washed out colors, so it was hard to tell where one thing ends and the other one begins. And everything was so huge, it felt like my monitor shrunk to old 14" CRT with 800x600 resolution. And the texts were kind of blurry and hard to read. What a nightmare! I'm so happy to be awake again. ;)

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:44 pm
by jarda
At last! Thank you very much.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:40 am
by roc-noc.com
Thanks Normis!

Subsilver forever!

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:25 pm
by bax
oh no again there is no prosilver theme :(

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:29 pm
by rmmccann
oh no again there is no prosilver theme :(
The color contrast on this theme is much better than the other one. I can live with this one.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:04 pm
by heislerb
Is it possible to have more definition on what is read and not read?

When click to read the unread part of a thread, I find it difficult to know if I have be redirected to the right spot. The heading is a little darker In the unread posts, but sometimes it is very hard to tell.

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:10 pm
by heislerb
I did not realize how bad the new form design was until I found out I could change my form style to SE Square.

Thanks!!!

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:36 am
by docmarius
For the sake of consistency, wouldn't a "Mark forums read" button on the main page above the forum list on the right side be appropriate?
At the moment, one needs to go to the Forum drop-down list for that, which is, let's say, different compared to the topic pages...

Re: New forum look & feel

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:15 pm
by heislerb
For the sake of consistency, wouldn't a "Mark forums read" button on the main page above the forum list on the right side be appropriate?
At the moment, one needs to go to the Forum drop-down list for that, which is, let's say, different compared to the topic pages...
I think SE Square style has what you are looking for.