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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:48 pm
by arsalansiddiqui
Please add support for:
1) multiple router-board cluster like environment
2) a button to clear logs
3) in detail debugging report for pppoe and radius
4) child/parent queue via freeradius example: 1mb-1 is parent and user1mb-1 and user1mb-2 is child then 1mb-2 is parent and user1mb-3 and user1mb-4 is child
5) make dns more stable
6) remove limit on dns
7) do some optimization on cpu load

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:06 pm
by Chupaka
Wrong topic, I believe. Feature requests are here: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=81674

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:58 pm
by mfr476
Another one time... When chupaca... When can we use ROS v7?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:00 pm
by mkx
Another one time... When chupaca... When can we use ROS v7?
We won't use ROS v7, ROS v7 will use us ...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:46 pm
by mfr476
have you finished ros v7 games or are you working on nv3?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:53 am
by espacioint
The real cuestion is..
Are u working?
Because this is something with more than 5 years of history...and no news..
I have migrated my network to mikrotik from ubiquity and im not so sure about this desicion.
I undertand the politic of low prices.. but you are going to low quality too...
I have no ptp right now with mikrotik (I removed all).
Im in the same direction with ptmp.. if u don't do nothing to improve it.
Finnaly u are going to sale only CCRs.

With Mimosa with same prices u can get a link (ptp) 4 times faster that netmetal..

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:34 am
by connorgoodwolf
I have migrated my network to mikrotik from ubiquity and im not so sure about this desicion.
Mikrotik is unfortunately now the Netware of networking products. Your decision to switch to Mikrotik was a mistake, they'll seriously lagging behind in standards, features and are still running an old linux kernel.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:59 am
by cmurrayis
Are we there yet?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:01 pm
by espacioint
I have migrated my network to mikrotik from ubiquity and im not so sure about this desicion.
Mikrotik is unfortunately now the Netware of networking products. Your decision to switch to Mikrotik was a mistake, they'll seriously lagging behind in standards, features and are still running an old linux kernel.
Unfortunately you are right.. It was a mistake, There are many people here in spain removing mikrotik devices and switching to ubiquiti, it is sad because i like mikrotik but I fell as they dont worry about they clients...
Im really disappointed.
I waste a lot of money on mikrotik and they dont worry about us...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:27 pm
by mistry7
Are we there yet?
Yes we Are, the Home-Brew Drivers they do, Are 50-70% behind real Performance in PTP and PtmP, new Features, not Seen , real issue with every new chipset (arm Nv2 issue for more than 12 Month), 4011 Turms of 5ghz, don’t work with more than 80 mhz, mu-Mimo (we possible See This when competiors have 802.11ax on market)

This Mikrotik Wireless, a dead-end

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:33 pm
by anuser
Are we there yet?
Yes we Are, the Home-Brew Drivers they do, Are 50-70% behind real Performance in PTP and PtmP, new Features, not Seen , real issue with every new chipset (arm Nv2 issue for more than 12 Month), 4011 Turms of 5ghz, don’t work with more than 80 mhz, mu-Mimo (we possible See This when competiors have 802.11ax on market)

This Mikrotik Wireless, a dead-end
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MikroTik actually released the updated 802.11ac drivers (without a fix for the 4011, though):
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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=145047&p=741741&hilit=wave#p741741
What is the current status of wave 2 features in Mikrotik wireless drivers?
Most of the features are implemented, but MU-MIMO is WIP
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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=145047&p=741741&hilit=wave#p742097
which featues are missing now? we already released the driver update in last betas.
160MHz works, like Reinis said, only MU-MIMO is not implemented as the only remaining Wave2 feature.
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viewtopic.php?f=21&t=149910#p741302
Version 6.46beta16 has been released.
*) wireless - improved 802.11ac stability for all ARM devices with wireless;
*) wireless - improved U-APSD (WMM Power Save) support for 802.11e;

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:54 pm
by pe1chl
Are we there yet?
Yes we Are, the Home-Brew Drivers they do, Are 50-70% behind real Performance in PTP and PtmP, new Features, not Seen , real issue with every new chipset (arm Nv2 issue for more than 12 Month), 4011 Turms of 5ghz, don’t work with more than 80 mhz, mu-Mimo (we possible See This when competiors have 802.11ax on market)

This Mikrotik Wireless, a dead-end
Oh but competitors (in the same price segment) have their problems as well... Fast roaming not working right, multicast filtering an all-or-nothing selection only, unusable "optimization" features that lock out a percentage of devices due to incompatibility, etc.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:48 pm
by mfr476
don't worry that ros7 will solve it. It will also end hunger in the world.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:04 pm
by mistry7
And here Comes 802.11ax embedded boards like Mikrotik Rb.....

https://compex.com.sg/shop/embedded-board/wpq872/

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:28 am
by mistry7
Are we there yet?
Yes we Are, the Home-Brew Drivers they do, Are 50-70% behind real Performance in PTP and PtmP, new Features, not Seen , real issue with every new chipset (arm Nv2 issue for more than 12 Month), 4011 Turms of 5ghz, don’t work with more than 80 mhz, mu-Mimo (we possible See This when competiors have 802.11ax on market)

This Mikrotik Wireless, a dead-end
Oh but competitors (in the same price segment) have their problems as well... Fast roaming not working right, multicast filtering an all-or-nothing selection only, unusable "optimization" features that lock out a percentage of devices due to incompatibility, etc.
shure, but other vendors have a way in the right direction, there HQ and LQ Products everything for the right Place
But we have no time to wait for Future releases to come up to competitors speed, and they are near to release next hardware step
and then the next MikroTik Driver disaster comes.
We have only a hand full p2P MikroTik links left, and if something not working probably, i don´t care anymore, we
just exchange the link with something other and double or tripple the speed.
We are lucky and used much of RF-Elements Dishes, so it is really easy to exchange hardware.

And take a look at this more then 12 month old post:

Wave 1 Missings:
- Output Power Managment
- Spectral Scan
- Channel sizes

Wave 2 Missings:
- no wave 2 features available

What’s about 802.11k, 802.11r and 802.11v, we need that in the EU for every Wireless Network in
Government Places / Meeting Rooms etc
There is so much missing.....
At this Moment MikroTik has only one future, selling low cost in mass to world regions, where this features are enough.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:10 pm
by Steveocee
Forget v7.

v8 Needs to be rounded on. Use off the shelf drivers, get it out there, give the people what they want.

(I'll stick to my v6 though as it does almost everything I need).

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:37 am
by NetWorker
I just want to let everyone know, that v7 is progressing pretty good this year, and most core functionality is usable. Some more difficult parts need to be done and we can release a public beta.
Koala Pic
ROFL Keyko, you made my day.

To be honest I too have been waiting on a few v7 features but have more or less accepted the "it'll be ready when it's ready" by just looking at the chagelogs and the sticky's. Today I decided to check out the forums to see if there's a hint of release date. But I was *shocked* by the name calling, folks saying they need this and that and Mikrotik is irresponsable and they should do this and that. W T F guys!?!?!?!?!? You say "mikrotik couldn't be less transparent" yet they not only have this forum, normis has to take all kinds of crap from you and responds the best way he can a least once a page. Do you guys do this too with Volkswagen or with your government? Do you write to the president too about everything that's wrong in the world? How did that work out? He replied right away didn't he?

I find Mikrotik has grown a lot over these past 5 years and while many of you question their management decisions, I still think they've been doing well for themselves. Though I agree with @nz_monkey with his "hero car" post that RouterOS is what it's all built on and taking into account that the CCR is, well, at the core of their and our business can't be neglected.

Speaking of which, I understand that many of you have to project infrastructure and future hardware acquisitions but the simple fact of life is that you buy gear that covers your needs, not gear that MAY work in the future nor buy a 299 piece of gear and then ask the manufacturer to make it work someway you want it to.

Regarding Mikrotik wireless gear, we have never bought any (not in qunatity anyway) because we always found the competition to be superior. Always tested before placing big orders, never chose brand over functionality.

Finally, a word on marketing. I've seen many of you bring up Apple. I find the marketing strategy of Apple to be made by experts... for idiots. They build up hype, they launch products on a stage in front of hundreds of crazed fanatics and then charge a fortune for a product that's the definition of programmed obsolescence. RouterOS v7 works for me. It comes after 6. Yes it's been 5 years in the making but so have other thousands of products. And the difference with those that did indeed need a name change is that this one is designed for IT pros. We work with numbers every day and can handle something called v7.12.rc7 instead of "Vista", "2019" or "skip two numbers because we need to emphasize how much different it is from the one before".

My opinion of course.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:48 am
by connorgoodwolf
I find Mikrotik has grown a lot over these past 5 years and while many of you question their management decisions, I still think they've been doing well for themselves. Though I agree with @nz_monkey with his "hero car" post that RouterOS is what it's all built on and taking into account that the CCR is, well, at the core of their and our business can't be neglected.
Thanks, I needed a laugh. If you shilled any harder I would've fell on to the floor laughing.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:57 am
by normis
"Are we working?", well, not much else I can give you, maybe this gives some hope
Screenshot 2019-08-22 at 07.56.29.png
Also, this video is real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbfKplzda7I

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:13 am
by Jotne
Good to see that the video posted is real.

In the video its mention beta99 3 Apr 2019
Your post shows alpha220 14 Aug 2019
Maybe you are going backwards :)

We are waiting and looking forward to testing this new version :mrgreen:

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:27 am
by normis
In the video, a special build was used, with a fake version name. This build was made for a MUM special event.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:33 am
by mkx
Maybe you are going backwards :)

Seems like that indeed :wink:

I certainly hope that folders from @Normis' screenshot are created in advance and that 7.0alpha219 was empty at the time ... which would mean that there are 219 alpha releases to go before we get some public RC :mrgreen:

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:50 pm
by mfr476
ros v7 brings improvements in wireless?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:46 pm
by NetWorker
Thanks, I needed a laugh. If you shilled any harder I would've fell on to the floor laughing.
Hey, I'm all for smiles and grins but after looking up shill in the dictionary I can honestly say that that wasn't the intention of my post. Yes, I posted in a "take it or leave it" sorta way but not for their sake; for ours. Mikrotik routers sit at the core of our network but we are not in the ISP businness and we're still on 100% IPv4 so we don't have a major grief like you guys do with BGP, etc. We'd be looking elsewhere if it ever came to that, instead of buying CCRs and then whining in a forum. As we did with our wireless gear and switches (none are Mikrotik).

My way of telling people that I don't like their crap is I don't buy it. Ok, I'm not perfect, we did buy stuff and have been disappointed at some point but we have *never* bought anything in bulk, for a mission it couldn't fulfill. Period.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:49 am
by Steveocee
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:06 am
by macgaiver
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?
Yes, only for ARM architecture and only for hap ac^2 and WAPGR LTE/4G/LTE-US testing, to get v7 ready for upcoming 5G products, according to Sergejs. support for remaining boards will gradually come out

it has v6.45.5 feature set and main change is new Linux Kernel atm, feature will gradually come out in time. First they need help with stability testing on those boards

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:08 am
by Steveocee
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?
Yes, only for ARM architecture and only for hap ac^2 and WAPGR LTE/4G/LTE-US testing, to get v7 ready for upcoming 5G products, according to Sergejs. support for remaining boards will gradually come out

it has v6.45.5 feature set and main change is new Linux Kernel atm, feature will gradually come out in time. First they need help with stability testing on those boards
Thank you for the info. Well played MikroTik. There I was a few posts up saying it'll be v8 that gets released!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:22 am
by blimbach
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?
Yes, only for ARM architecture and only for hap ac^2 and WAPGR LTE/4G/LTE-US testing, to get v7 ready for upcoming 5G products, according to Sergejs. support for remaining boards will gradually come out

it has v6.45.5 feature set and main change is new Linux Kernel atm, feature will gradually come out in time. First they need help with stability testing on those boards
Hmmm, I just installed it on my cAP AC and it works as expected as cAP.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:38 am
by honzam
b1 works on rb4011.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:11 pm
by alibloke
4 years 7 months 20.69 days from opening this thread to an answer.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:44 pm
by reks2004
Any info about V7 on Tile? (CCR)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:47 pm
by krisjanisj
Any info about V7 on Tile? (CCR)
No current ETA can be given but won't be years...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:26 pm
by mfr476
Ros v7 is release!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:54 pm
by mkx
No current ETA can be given but won't be years...

:lol:

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:55 pm
by mkx
Ros v7 is release!

No, it's not. ROS v7beta is in public testing ...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:02 pm
by genesispro
anyone installed it on a 4011 yet?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:06 pm
by blingblouw
anyone installed it on a 4011 yet?
Yup. Got 1 kernel panic so definitely would run this in lab only

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:53 pm
by genesispro
anyone installed it on a 4011 yet?
Yup. Got 1 kernel panic so definitely would run this in lab only
and you flashed it back to 6.x?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:56 pm
by brimfulnick
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?
Yes, only for ARM architecture and only for hap ac^2 and WAPGR LTE/4G/LTE-US testing, to get v7 ready for upcoming 5G products, according to Sergejs. support for remaining boards will gradually come out

it has v6.45.5 feature set and main change is new Linux Kernel atm, feature will gradually come out in time. First they need help with stability testing on those boards
Hmmm, I just installed it on my cAP AC and it works as expected as cAP.
I tried this on a cAPAC which is connecting to a CCR as the manager, but get this on the capac
caps,info CAP connect to ccr1 (::ffff:10.0.0.254:5246) failed: ssl: fatal alert received (6) 
caps,info CAP failed to join ccr1 (::ffff:10.0.0.254:5246)
and this on the CCR
caps,debug ::ffff:10.0.0.4:40338 failed to connect, handshake failed: error 140890e9 (6)
This wasn't a device that this was meant to work on, so i guess we just have to wait for other releases

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:07 pm
by mistry7
anyone installed it on a 4011 yet?
Yup. Got 1 kernel panic so definitely would run this in lab only
and you flashed it back to 6.x?
Yes it runs about 30s so upload and Downgrade works....

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:23 am
by Alane
Running on a 3011 now stable so far get a lot of these though
"error - contact MikroTik support and send a supout file (2)"

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:27 am
by Railander
Very happy to see v7 finally coming together.

What's the kernel version?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:26 am
by Jotne
Did you read this thread?
viewtopic.php?p=748889

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:27 pm
by MichalP
Anybody know what about "ip route cache" in routeros-7.0 beta1 ?
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=78107

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:26 pm
by pe1chl
The IP route cache is gone in the newer Linux kernel. It would be surprising when that problem is still present.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:32 am
by Amm0
Is MBIM support in the v7 beta? e.g. all the LTE modems that say "v7"

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:49 pm
by DummyPLUG
Any info about V7 on Tile? (CCR)
No current ETA can be given but won't be years...
decades?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:12 am
by Chupaka
IMG_20190910_001102_513.jpg

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:37 am
by mfr476
Really Chupaka? We are isp. Our work not is a joke ...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:13 am
by normis
If you are an ISP, please forget about v7 for one more year. It will be in beta for a long time still

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:24 am
by blimbach
If you are an ISP, please forget about v7 for one more year. It will be in beta for a long time still
Okay, that's an announcement! You can just leave it like that...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:27 am
by krisjanisj
As I've and @Normis have said - DO NOT install these releases on a production gear. These releases are experimental and beta for a reason...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:38 am
by mfr476
I have ros7 in my 3011 to do tests, I don't use it in productive situations

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:54 am
by DenisPDA
IMG_20190910_001102_513.jpg
You can share the source (url) of the changelog?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:18 am
by normis
There is no changelog, because this is the first and only release

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:24 am
by Steveocee
There is no changelog, because this is the first and only release
Changelog:
v6.xx changed to reflect correct version v7.xx

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:21 pm
by paoloaga
Since 2013 MikroTik promises to fix bugs with v7 (recursive ipv6 nexthops etc)
It's already fixed with this script:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=150616

😂

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:59 pm
by mrz
Recursive nexthops in v7 works without any scripts.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:51 am
by nz_monkey
Recursive nexthops in v7 works without any scripts.
❤️

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:11 pm
by StubArea51
Recursive nexthops in v7 works without any scripts.
❤️
Woahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

+1000000000000 :lol:

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:34 pm
by TheWitness
Hey, this is a big shit post, but interesting reading. I for one prefer stability. Yea the GUI is getting a bit dated, but you have to think of it this way. Mikrotik is such a big tool, rewriting to match something the "U" company has done is no small task. And I for one, though an OSS developer, do not care if they keep the source closed.

One thing that I'm seeing more of is Telemetry and stream in general. Does not mean I like it, but it's very popular, especially with the introduction of Micro Services, and us Network guys will just have to give in I think.

Thanks for all you guys do. It's a great product. Looking to buy more of it for my home lab!

TheWitness (of Cacti)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:34 pm
by vortex
64-bit is knocking...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:21 pm
by pe1chl
Yea the GUI is getting a bit dated, but you have to think of it this way. Mikrotik is such a big tool, rewriting to match something the "U" company has done is no small task.
I prefer such a "dated" GUI any time over the "modern" low-contrast borderless black-background layout that others use.
Even when selecting the white background I prefer to have borders between stuff and not those large white surfaces with grey or blue text floating in it.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:33 pm
by Paternot
I prefer such a "dated" GUI any time over the "modern" low-contrast borderless black-background layout that others use.
Even when selecting the white background I prefer to have borders between stuff and not those large white surfaces with grey or blue text floating in it.
THIS. I hate the "modern" flat UIs. They are awful, and quite hard to use.