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SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:32 pm

SwOS Lite version 2.14 released
http://www.mikrotik.com/download

What's new in v2.14:

*) improve SFP+ link establishment;
*) GPEN21: allow to select up-link port;
*) make IGMP snooping work with multiple VLANs;
*) stop forwarding multicast traffic on client unsubscribe;
*) do not show learned IGMP addresses under Hosts;
*) fixed ACL Set-VLAN-ID, DSCP and Priority fields;
*) make flow-control disabled by default;
*) CSS610: allow to configure both rx & tx flow-control;
*) SNMP: fixed ifSpeed & ifHighSpeed;
*) do not tag outgoing packets if their VLAN matches port Default-VLAN-ID and
port is in Optional VLAN mode;
*) port is now automatically its Default-VLAN-ID member;
*) make Port statistics more precise;
*) do not send Mikrotik neighbor discovery packets on ports that have it disabled;
*) fixed ACL to be able to drop any neighbor discovery packets;
*) report correct RSTP root path cost on LAG links;
*) make SwOS respond only to its own ip address even if MAC address is correct;
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:38 pm

*) GPEN21: allow to select up-link port;


What does that mean? Can we now use all 3 ports independently?
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:14 pm

Changelog header has been added to RouterOS /Changelogs/ Stable release .
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:19 am

*) GPEN21: allow to select up-link port;
What does that mean? Can we now use all 3 ports independently?
You can select an uplink port on the "Forwarding" page. This selected port can talk to the other two ports, while two non-uplink ports are isolated from each other.

Thanks bpwl, will try to fix this as soon as possible.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:32 am

Can anybody confirm if this fixes the link issues with Intel SFP NIC's? Currently on 2.13 release candidate for that to work as 2.13 final could not link.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:06 pm

PLEASE

some confirmation on "Reset Configuration" button can help...
Is near to "Save Backup" and do not ask for confirmation...

Not?
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:13 pm

Can anybody confirm if this fixes the link issues with Intel SFP NIC's? Currently on 2.13 release candidate for that to work as 2.13 final could not link.
Can confirm, autonegotiated 10G link seems to work fine with Intel's X520 (82599ES). Only tried it for about an hour, but it seems to be stable.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:36 pm

SwOS Lite 2.14 acts as igmp querier using IGMPv3 when igmp-snooping is turned on. You can't change the igmp version being used nor can you turn off the querier function.
What makes things worse, it sends out these igmp reports using 0.0.0.0, since it has no IP Address other than on the management vlan.
Because of the low ip address, it wins every querier election and ultimately breaks multicast, where a L3 device needs to be the querier for PIM / igmp-proxy to work correctly.
Please add the option to enable igmp-snooping together with no-querier and let users select on which vlans they want to use this feature including the igmp version.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:40 pm

Hi!
As already mentioned with Version 2.13 (see other post of mine: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=173526#p859378 ) the problem with SNMP on the GPEN21 still persists.
The values for SFP RX Power and SFP TX Power are not given (even though listed in Mikrotiks MIB), but shown on the Web Interface.

~# snmpwalk -v2c -c public 192.168.88.1 1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.19
iso.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.19.1.1.2.3 = STRING: "SFP1"
iso.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.19.1.1.5.3 = Gauge32: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.19.1.1.6.3 = Gauge32: 65408
iso.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.19.1.1.7.3 = Gauge32: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.19.1.1.8.3 = Gauge32: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.19.1.1.8.3 = No more variables left in this MIB View (It is past the end of the MIB tree)

While digging around i found out that the raw values of the SFP are almost directly given to the web browser and all the calculation is done there.
This makes sense if the resources in the GPEN21 are extremly thin.
All calculations are quite simple ... except the ones for the SFP RX and TX Power. Which are given in linear steps of 0.1 microwatts. To arrive to dBm a logarithm would have to be calculated.
For the web interface, this happens in the browser, for SNMP however it would have to be calculated directly by the GPEN21 - and i guess it does not have the resources to do so.
Can you confirm or dismiss my theory @Mikrotik?


Beste regards
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:01 am

some confirmation on "Reset Configuration" button can help...
Is near to "Save Backup" and do not ask for confirmation...
+1

and please add some kind of "safe mode" too.
Make it possible to first apply changes without saving them permanently.
If. the switch is still accessible after that, confirm changes to save them permanently.
If you make a mistake and can't access it anymore, power-cycle to restore previous config.
Optionally support a timeout after which config is reverted if not confirmed, for situations where power-cycle may be difficult to do (reverse-PoE).
The config file is small, I don't think there is not enough memory to implement such a feature.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:12 am

We need a fix for SFP negotiation now.

As of release 2.14 GPEN21 and maybe others won't auto negotiate correctly with certain generic lasers in them.

Using a very old 20km Mikrotik branded laser works.
Using 2.13 version works with any laser.

Using 2.14 does NOT work with just about any laser we have tried.

We've had to resort to setting it all to static 1Gbps FDX link on BOTH the switch port on the other side and the GPEN21.

Please fix asap!
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:01 pm

SwOS Lite 2.14 acts as igmp querier using IGMPv3 when igmp-snooping is turned on. You can't change the igmp version being used nor can you turn off the querier function.
What makes things worse, it sends out these igmp reports using 0.0.0.0, since it has no IP Address other than on the management vlan.
Because of the low ip address, it wins every querier election and ultimately breaks multicast, where a L3 device needs to be the querier for PIM / igmp-proxy to work correctly.
Please add the option to enable igmp-snooping together with no-querier and let users select on which vlans they want to use this feature including the igmp version.
There is no option to configure the IGMP querier version, we will see if this option can be added in the next release. Also, there is no option to disable the querier, but the switch will stop sending queries in case another querier is detected. As for the 0.0.0.0 querier address, this is a special case querier address that should not affect the querier election, the multicast routers and IGMP proxy should ignore such packets.

The values for SFP RX Power and SFP TX Power are not given (even though listed in Mikrotiks MIB), but shown on the Web Interface.
Thanks for sharing this, hope to include the Tx/Rx power values for SNMP in the next release.

As of release 2.14 GPEN21 and maybe others won't auto negotiate correctly with certain generic lasers in them.
Thanks for reporting, please share the details about used SFP modules to support if not already.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:16 pm

...

PLEASE

add some confirmation on "Reset Configuration" button...
Is near to "Save Backup" and do not ask for confirmation...

Also please add it on non-lite version
Thanks
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:33 pm

add some confirmation on "Reset Configuration" button...
Thanks for the suggestion, will check if this option can be implemented.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:47 pm

Hello EdPa, thank you for your detailed reply.

As for the 0.0.0.0 querier address, this is a special case querier address that should not affect the querier election, the multicast routers and IGMP proxy should ignore such packets.

This is not what I've observed here.
The packet is not ignored by ROS 6.48.3 / igmp-proxy, even if the bridge port the packet arrives on is set to multicast-router=disabled.
The moment you connect the CSS610 to the CCR or reboot the CSS, igmp-proxy receives the general membership query from 0.0.0.0 and immediately stops sending queries, and won't recover by itself unless you disconnect the CSS again. It's basically a race condition.
Still not sure if this is a SwOS and / or ROS issue. IMHO if there won't be an option to disable the querier in future versions of SwOS Lite, at least the switch upon boot should wait 4m15s (default querier-interval) and listen if there's already another querier on the network before sending a general membership query. The other option is to fix igmp-proxy, ignoring messages from 0.0.0.0.
Should I file a ticket about that?

+1 for reboot / reset configuration confirmation
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:18 pm

Nice work, osc86! I got the same results in our lab, will try to find some solution. No need for a support ticket.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:20 pm

Disabling bright blue power LED would be a nice feature.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:09 pm

Disabling bright blue power LED would be a nice feature.
Yes, please!
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:07 pm

Hey, this finally brings themperature display on the system tab of my css610 devices as already advertised for 2.13! ;-)
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:45 am

Nice work, osc86! I got the same results in our lab, will try to find some solution. No need for a support ticket.
I'm having the same issue with my CSS610's, IGMP Snooping is basically broken.

Would very much appreciate a fix! Many thanks in advance.
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:00 pm

With the many issues discovered in 2.14 (especially the regressions from 2.13), can we expect a 2.15 (with more bugs fixed, and no new ones added) soon?
 
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Re: SwOS Lite version 2.14 released!

Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:29 pm

On Link Tab there are new columns such as "Length", "Fault at", "Cable Pair"
How can we read Cable Pair property? Couldn't find any explanation on the wiki.
I am asking because I have one remote CSS610-8G-2S+ which reports on ether8 Cable Pair: __oo

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