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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:33 pm

I'm interested in nv2 AP sync, but not yet able to test new options
Please someone from the microtik to explain in details
If at one location we have 4 mikrotrik sectors that are mutually visible in the signal range from for example, -60 to -70dbi.
On the site is also present on all channels a disturbing noise ranging from -70dbi to better (lets say -80dbi average)
What is minimal necessary difference betwen sync signal and disturbing noise on same channel to properly sync funcionality.
also in this harsh conditions we have possibly aggregated troughput for all 4 sectors in range 4x25Mbps=100Mbps average
what is expected aggregated troughput on all 4 sectors in ap sync case
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:47 pm

For this to work, there are two solutions :
- the radio clock need to have an input for a sync reference, and a sync generator is needed to generate the sync carrier on the right frequency.
- the radio clock need a VCO clock, voltage controlled oscillator, so that it is possible to adjust the transmit frequency very precisely.
I think you have the wrong idea about the sync. My impression is that protocols like NV2 are TDMA. The purpose of syncing the transmitters on a tower would be to coordinate that they are transmitting and listening in unison to ensure weak signals from a client aren't drowned out by an adjacent AP. The Time of Day clocks in each AP probably run at microsecond or better accuracy so all you are trying to do is make sure that the transmit interrupt (or DMA transfer to a radio's own tx buffer) all happens in the same instant. It isn't to try and make sure their transmit centre frequency is locked precisely to 2.412GHz for instance.
Yes NV2 is TDMA modulation. So Mikrotik NV2 sync seems to be similar in design with OpenTDMF sync. In this case, APs synchronize their slot boundaries. This is possible using a something like IEEE 1588 PTP protocol for example to share a quite precise (in the microsecond range) clock reference.

Some interesting details here :

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/researc ... aready.pdf

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/researc ... less-lans/

This kind of synchronization does not need carrier sync. This mean that there is no hardware modification at the radio level. So the cost is kept low.

But this is only working with a TDMA protocol, and still does not allow very fast roaming for clients, because when they roam they need to lock on a new channel carrier, not in sync with the previous one. So the PLL in the receiver needs some time to lock on the new frequency. If carrier are synced, even if APs are on different frequencies, receivers can lock almost instantaneously on the new channel.

In the GSM network for example, all towers and receivers are in sync at the carrier level. This mean that the receiver can switch to another channel very fast, this mean that there is no audio cut.
Wimax as well can use this kind of sync.

It seems to me that carrier sync gives more advantages as well to reduce interferences between adjacent antennas and adjacent base sites.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:28 pm

vlatko, Minimal difference between noise and signal - depends on nature of noise - if it is continuous wave or "packet" based. If your AP is able to "see" in scan master AP in the presence of noise signal, you are fine.
You can not predict throughput because it is not clear what is the effect of interfering signal. You should try and use what gives the best results.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:01 am

will we be seeing MSTP in 6.40 (a latter RC) perhaps? is it in planning?
Has it been promised?
In case it has, can you provide a link, please?
If not, please stop spamming with the topic not directly related to the 6.40rc series.
+1
v6.40 will have another separate VLAN-aware bridge implementation
Are looking forward to
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:40 am

We could think how to sync the APs that are on different frequencies but located on the same tower and connected to the same ethernet network.
You could take some ideas from or use PTP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Time_Protocol) to synchronise the APs internal clocks over ethernet and hence transmission times from a collection of APs on a tower without having to mess with GPS. You only need relative not absolute time synchronisation. How well it works depends on how quickly you can get an incoming ethernet frame timestamped - but the articles all suggest sub-microsecond is possible.
Some other interesting background for synchronization :

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5 ... td-p/37884

https://www.cse.wustl.edu/~jain/cse574- ... index.html

Synchronization is a complex subject, with many different possibilities, from full absolute carrier sync, to relative sync, to TDMA sync, where some other capabilities can be implemented to enhance for example interference detection (channel frequency changes, adaptive transmission power...).
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:12 pm

Version 6.40rc28 has been released.
Before an upgrade:
1) Remember to make backup/export files before an upgrade and save them on another storage device;
2) Make sure the device will not lose power during upgrade process;
3) Device has enough free storage space for all RouterOS packages to be downloaded.

Changes since previous version:
*) console - fixed different command auto complete on <tab>;
*) ethernet - fixed occasional broken interface order after reset/first boot;
*) export - added router model and serial number to configuration export;
*) export - fixed "/interface list" verbose export;
*) export - fixed "/ipv6 route" compact export;
*) export - fixed MPLS "dynamic-label-range" export;
*) export - fixed SNMP "src-address" for compact export;
*) fastpath - improved removing process of dynamic interface;
*) hAP ac lite - removed nonexistent "wlan-led";
*) lte - added info command support for the Jaton LTE modem;
*) ppp - added initial support for ZTE K4203-Z;
*) ppp - added initial support for ZTE ME3630-E;
*) safe-mode - fixed session handling when Safe Mode is used on multiple sessions at the same time;
*) supout - fixed IPv6 firewall section;

If you experience version related issues, then please send supout file from your router to support@mikrotik.com. File must be generated while router is not working as suspected or after crash.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:27 pm

hi
i'm using mikrotik v6.40rc28.

something wrong with address list.
when im using script to add address list and timeout limit has reach 0. it doesn't remove. still in there.
i tried to add manually it's also the same.
but when i using filter, it's work. please fix this in next release.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:08 pm

while doing some testing on dual wan (a lot of plugging and unplugging of ethernet cable / disabling of interfaces), i've also found that /ip route entries may SOMETIMES show as 'unreachable' but via command line it appears to be reachable. so probably a visual bug in winbox... fixed by reopening the ip > route window.
Last edited by biatche on Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:13 pm

Please do some minimal work on the IPv6 routing to allow running IPv6 on 2 internet connections.
At the minimum: implement "/ipv6 route rule" to allow having 2 route tables each with their own default route, selected by (internal) source address.
Better: also implement "/ipv6 firewall nat" with netmap or similar action to allow a static internal address to be mapped to alternative external addresses.
I think the functionality is already in the current kernel, it only requires UI work.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:16 pm

More IPv6: updating and activation of licenses do not work over IPv6. Please fix that so it is possible to run a router with only IPv6 connectivity to the internet.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:16 pm

Please do some minimal work on the IPv6 routing..
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:42 am

Please do some minimal work on the IPv6 routing..
+1
+1, moar IPv6 :)
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:30 pm

Version 6.40rc20 has been released.
*) wireless - fixed rare crash on cap disable;
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problems still appears (currently with v6.40rc28) => Ticket#2017042722000941
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:12 pm

Version 6.40rc32 has been released.
Before an upgrade:
1) Remember to make backup/export files before an upgrade and save them on another storage device;
2) Make sure the device will not lose power during upgrade process;
3) Device has enough free storage space for all RouterOS packages to be downloaded.

Changes since previous version:
*) dhcpv4-client - added "gateway-address" script parameter;
*) dhcpv4-server - fixed lease renew for DHCP clients that sends renewal with "ciaddr = 0.0.0.0";
*) fasttrack - fixed fasttrack over interfaces with dynamic MAC address;

If you experience version related issues, then please send supout file from your router to support@mikrotik.com. File must be generated while router is not working as suspected or after crash.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:02 pm

It has been a while since the last DUDE update/
Have you stopped working on the dude? or are you working on some major update?
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:17 pm

IF mikrotik guys are working with dhcp part of ROS, its time to answer - when mikrotik will implement dhcp option 82?
Actually is interested lease issue by circuit-id.
Mikrotik stuff, c'mon you did half of work, go on and finish.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:59 pm

*) fasttrack - fixed fasttrack over interfaces with dynamic MAC address;
This fixed fasttrack over bonded interfaces using dynamic mac. Great work :)
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:40 am

IF mikrotik guys are working with dhcp part of ROS, its time to answer - when mikrotik will implement dhcp option 82?
Actually is interested lease issue by circuit-id.
Mikrotik stuff, c'mon you did half of work, go on and finish.
Me too interested.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:43 am

IF mikrotik guys are working with dhcp part of ROS, its time to answer - when mikrotik will implement dhcp option 82?
Actually is interested lease issue by circuit-id.
we've been using this since 2008 :) you just need external RADIUS :D
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:28 pm

Bug on Winbox, configuring VLAN on a CRS326-24G-2S+ With firmware 6.39.2 and 6.40rc32.

If you try to set a new VLAN with all ports, on winbox you only can put 25 interfaces, but switch has 27 including CPU.
Setting via CLI its possible, but when you open on Winbox, the field Ports shows in Red.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:12 pm

sindudas - You should be able to add up to 30 interfaces. Are you sure that simply menu did not go out of your computer display?
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:13 pm

RB2011 in a bootloop after v6.40rc13 upgraded from v6.40 rc9 :(
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:04 pm

IF mikrotik guys are working with dhcp part of ROS, its time to answer - when mikrotik will implement dhcp option 82?
Actually is interested lease issue by circuit-id.
we've been using this since 2008 :) you just need external RADIUS :D
Hi chupaka,
i have read your posts in forum acc to radius.:) Congrats ;)
But if mikrotik targets to be KisKo alternative, shouldn't they implement their own option82 in dhcp-server, or own radius server, like cisco does?
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:46 am

I have a scripting issue.

if one script sets a global, another script is not able to see it. However, I can see them on the console.

Script 1
:global test "test"
Script 2
:put $test
running the scripts from the console, I would expect Script 2 to output "test", but it's output is blank.
However, running ":put $test" on the console, outputs "test"

the Wiki states:
Scripting language has two types of variables:

global - accessible from all scripts created by current user, defined by global keyword;
local - accessible only within the current scope, defined by local keyword.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:54 am

script 2 must be:
:global test;
:put $test
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:19 am

script 2 must be:
:global test;
:put $test
OoooOoooohhhhh! Okay :)
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:47 am

sindudas - You should be able to add up to 30 interfaces. Are you sure that simply menu did not go out of your computer display?
I'm really sure that it can't be selected more than 25. It turns the down arrow in grey, disabled.
My screen is much bigger, it is not a display problem, but it does not allow to add more.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:53 am

sindudas - You should be able to add up to 30 interfaces. Are you sure that simply menu did not go out of your computer display?
Image
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:39 pm

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /link/mikrotik-vlan-add.jpeg on this server.
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:30 pm

Did you try commandline or webfig to add ports?
[edit: I see you did]
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:38 pm

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /link/mikrotik-vlan-add.jpeg on this server.
It should work now. Sorry, it was geoip restrictions :oops:
 
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Re: v6.40rc [release candidate] is released!

Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:28 pm

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