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Home app - goes thorugh nothing to do with WAN setup.

What if its PPPoE? Does this just purely rely on a DHCP WAN?

Home app - goes thorugh nothing to do with WAN setup.

What if its PPPoE? Does this just purely rely on a DHCP WAN?

For any kind of funky setups, surely you need the normal MikroTik app, where a lot more options are available. This is for home users with no configuration needs.

Home app - goes thorugh nothing to do with WAN setup.

What if its PPPoE? Does this just purely rely on a DHCP WAN?

For any kind of funky setups, surely you need the normal MikroTik app, where a lot more options are available. This is for home users with no configuration needs.

That should then read "home users in some countries where there are no configuration needs".
At least here a home internet connection is usually using PPPoE and almost always there is also a VLAN tag to be inserted.
That is not too uncommon I think.
Most equipment manufacturers solve this by having "profiles" that you select when you run the setup wizard. They ask you your country and ISP name and then it knows how to set it all up without bothering the user with questions like "do you want to use DHCP or PPPoE" or "what is the VLAN for your internet connection".
Of course it will require some effort to compile a list of profiles for all the markets where you want this to work.

That should then read "home users in some countries where there are no configuration needs".
At least here a home internet connection is usually using PPPoE and almost always there is also a VLAN tag to be inserted.

And the ISP is really asking the end-user to do this? If there are any VLANs and such, normally the ISP technician configures / provides the router and does not give access to the end user. This video is not for that situation.

Wifi 6 when?

Home app - goes thorugh nothing to do with WAN setup.

What if its PPPoE? Does this just purely rely on a DHCP WAN?

For any kind of funky setups, surely you need the normal MikroTik app, where a lot more options are available. This is for home users with no configuration needs.

PPPoE is still widely used here at least (Australia) - and most consumer routers in their quick setup allow for configuring PPPoE as the WAN type
I agree though that VLAN id's and the like on WAN is getting a bit involved.

For any kind of funky setups, surely you need the normal MikroTik app, where a lot more options are available. This is for home users with no configuration needs.

Those users mostly never change the password that is set initially so, although it may look like a nice touch, it seems like a bit of waste of developers time IMHO...

I prefer a longer wait, for a good implementation of WiFi 6. Now you see, implementations of it with other brands that are not yet mature.

Home app - goes thorugh nothing to do with WAN setup.

What if its PPPoE? Does this just purely rely on a DHCP WAN?

For any kind of funky setups, surely you need the normal MikroTik app, where a lot more options are available. This is for home users with no configuration needs.

PPPoE is a "funky setup"? 100% of our deployments are PPPoE.

(aka a login that is limited specific to the Home App so you don't also have to give full device permission to the user in order to use it).

PPPoE became pointless as soon as dialup got replaced by cable modems and optic fibers. Today, DHCP and plain old ethernet work just as well and you have no PPPoE limitations to deal with.

Sure there often are workarounds possible but apparently it still is the protocol of choice for large-scale ISPs.

Not sure why you need an extra layer for authentication and encapsulation when you control the last mile?

It's not just WISP networks, but in networks where the operator sells g, using PPP they can hand the login off to the relevant service provider's AAA server. I am sure you could eventually achieve similar results with MPLS, or one-VLAN-per-SP in your wholesale network, or whatever, but PPPoE + L2TP is a widely-accepted solution for multiple service providers on a wholesale network.

A customer just wanting to connect to internet using their own router would usually configure only the internet VLAN and PPPoE over that.

A customer just wanting to connect to internet using their own router would usually configure only the internet VLAN and PPPoE over that.

Wow. My personal opinion, instead of blaming apps, these types of providers should re-think their network setup. Why would home users have to know such stuff?

But you can ask "select your country and ISP from this list".

Wifi 6 when?

I am starting to wonder if Wi-Fi 6 or Wi-Fi 6e is even on the road map.

Over a year ago , the FCC opened up the 6 GHz band (5.925–7.125 GHz) and made it available for unlicensed use.
More than a year later and total lack of any official Mikrotik information, I can only assume there are zero plans for Mikrotik to update/create any products to operate in these new clear-clean-empty frequencies.

Many of you know that I am a total Mikrotik fan , but this lack of information and lack of product is wearing thin and is going to force me to look at other non-Mikrotik products to find a solution for --> 6 GHz band (5.925–7.125 GHz)

Why would mikrotik, make a niche product for that band plan by FCC.

Why would mikrotik, make a niche product for that band plan by FCC.

Niche? 6 GHz is used for 802.11ax world wide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ax-2021). Within Q3/Q4 2021, vendors start selling their enterprise access points. Consumer routers with triple radios (2.4GHz, 5 GHz, 6GHZ) and end devices started selling some months ago. As users want more bandwith 6 GHz support is a must for our seminar rooms and lecture halls. I hope Mikrotik will release some new Mediatek based routers (RB750grX) and wireless access points with 2x2:2 for 2.4GHz, 5 GHz and 6 GHz with Mediatek´s current Wi-Fi 6E branded chipset (https://www.mediatek.com/blog/mediatek- ... on-program) and proprietary drivers.

• no four address mode support for WDS or station-bridge
• no capsman support
• apparently, no support for distance control, potentially affecting outdoor fixed installs

At this point FCC(America, and some other like Brazil, south Korea and Chile) have recently made those frequencies available for low power device use in those counties domestic band plans.
Other counties such as Australia and Europe( like where Mikrotik is made!), have not yet had all those frequencies allocated for such use.

POLICY AND LEGISLATION
6GHz harmonisation decision: more spectrum available for better and faster Wi-Fi

The 6GHz harmonisation decision makes 480 MHz of additional spectrum available in the 6 GHz band for Wi-Fi networks. It means further improvements in network performance and faster, more stable connections for teleconferencing, sharing content and innovative services.

The only product-space that Mikrotik excell is in Prosumer, small ISP and small/medium Enterprise. And no one there uses some fancy phone app to setup their network.

The "app target market" will probably choose Google, D-Link, Asus, TP-Link or some generic Chinese white-label box with the most performance/$.

I can see the point of PPPoE in WISP-networks with the air as a medium. PPPoE existed in the DSL-days in my country, but was only used by a few providers. For Cable/Ethernet/FTTH it's just plain DHCP. Not sure why you need an extra layer for authentication and encapsulation when you control the last mile?

statistics collection (usage), and Layer 2 client isolation.