hAP lite

Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:21 am

New case for hAP lite.
Very NICE Mikrotik
hAP Lite RB941 2nD TC

Is anyone else disappointed by this? I love the hAP, but this forces it to be a vertical device, which I rarely ever see actually used -- at least not in the hundreds of users I support.

I loved the original hAP case, but this is too consumerish for my tastes. Just my opinion.

Me for example. And I wrote that already on this forum.

tarekomari · Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:28 pm

The green LED of LAN 3 is always ON without using it. even after resetting the router and after installing the last ver of netinstal it still on.
Any clarification Pls.

chinkung · Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:25 am

Does anyone has a problem about internet upload speed on hap lite?

My hap lite has a problem with upload timeout even on default configuration

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=95720

TechnoInside · Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:28 am

Hi everyone!

I have a problem with my internet connection. Does HAP Lite support the PPPoE protocol (login and password)?

Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:52 am

Yes, of course. Right from the QuickSet page:

Screenshot 2015-09-17 10.51.59.png

TechnoInside · Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:11 am

Yes, of course. Right from the QuickSet page:

Screenshot 2015-09-17 10.51.59.png

Ok, thanks. When I'm enterring my login and password of PPPoE-connection, the "pppoe status" shows that "couldn't connect to pppoe-server". All other specifications - default.

Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:15 am

Is the ISP internet cable plugged into the first port of the device?

TechnoInside · Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:45 am

Is the ISP internet cable plugged into the first port of the device?

of course

Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:03 pm

Then I suggest to contact the ISP for help. If the router can't reach the ISPs PPPoE server, while being correctly plugged in, something may be wrong on their side. PPPoE is simple to configure.

TechnoInside · Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:32 pm

Maybe I've done smth wrong? Should i take some other paragraphs or it is enough if I enter my login and password?

honzam · Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:33 pm

It is interesting that old hAP lite is in archived products (with label NEW)

Now on market are only RB941-2nD-TC ?

Old cases will be replaced?
Why not sell both versions at the same time? Thanks

Cha0s · Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:18 pm

I am glad I got my hands on the 'old cased' hAP!

It fits like a charm behind my laptop screen. The new design is cumbersome.

TechnoInside · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:05 am

What kind of problem is it?

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KillerOPS · Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:58 am

I like the "old" case more than the new one. We tend to mount them in plastic boxes on a pole or pylon, and the new one is very cumbersome to work with. I also hate the netis products that "got creative" with that stupid "tower" format. It's a router, I don't wanna see it on furniture, i'd rather have it stuffed it behind on a wall.
I can see the need to have it standing vertically. Maybe a detachable stand like this one is the best answer to that problem, and mounting the led's "windows" on the edge of the case, so they're visible from side and front.
If that's not an option, hopefully the routers will be available in both formats. I definitely know which one I'm getting

What do you think, guys?

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_imag ... 0x1024.jpg

w0lt · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:03 am

I am glad I got my hands on the 'old cased' hAP!

It fits like a charm behind my laptop screen. The new design is cumbersome.

I, for one like that he new version. They seem more stable on the desktop and in vogue. Kudos to Tik!

Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:36 pm

I don't wanna see it on furniture, i'd rather have it stuffed it behind on a wall

One of the reasons many manufacturers go with the standing design, is to encourage people to use the device in open space, to improve your wireless signal and decrease noise. When hidden behind walls inside a metal cabinet, next to your electricity breaker, the wireless connection will not be great, and the user will just complain

honzam · Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:37 pm

I understand.
But why do not preserve in the production of both versions hAP lite? And let users choose whether ...

deanMKD1 · Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:50 pm

The new hAP Lite Tower is great !! More nice looking then prevous old style hAP.

@normis any news about hAP AC and RB 3011? We are tired waithing for that products.

bwbb · Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:47 am

Really wish they'd have both. The new one is way too consumer looking. Is that really the market here?
I thought the original hAP Lite was -perfect-.

Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:30 am

Really wish they'd have both. The new one is way too consumer looking. Is that really the market here?

I always assumed hAP Lite is a pure entry-level consumer device. Cheap and with limited resources on board. And QuickSet, while not perfect, allows to quickly set it up by a non-professional in a typical consumer scenarios.

PS. New case is nice.

KillerOPS · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:58 pm

One of the reasons many manufacturers go with the standing design, is to encourage people to use the device in open space, to improve your wireless signal and decrease noise. When hidden behind walls inside a metal cabinet, next to your electricity breaker, the wireless connection will not be great, and the user will just complain

You're right, but not everyone uses it like this

I use it as a "really powerful cheap managed small switch" for ip cameras, and the old design is just about perfect for this application. Anyways, I'll probably move to the 5 port version if this one is not available anymore. Hopefully you're not "up-downgrading" that one too

.

Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:12 pm

Having the sphere antenna characteristics, there is no need to have the box in the standing position.

Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:30 pm

Having the sphere antenna characteristics, there is no need to have the box in the standing position.

If it needs to stand, chances are, you will put it outside a wall cabinet, on a desk somewhere. Having a wall mountable unit, increases chance of use inside a metal wall cabinet, next to electricity breaker somewhere.

I already said, this is just one possible reason for this trend.

TechnoInside · Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:20 pm

How to reboot the Hap Lite?

freemannnn · Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:52 pm

i miss the beeper

mightywill · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:54 pm

On my device WLAN port works unstably with optical modem - is it know issue?

benqman · Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:07 pm

We are happy to announce our new low cost home AP, the hAP lite:
http://routerboard.com/RB941-2nD

Recommended list price is $21.95

hAP-lite-s.png

how to - block the internet access based on mac address Hap Lite

zeusns · Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:00 pm

Hi,

Could anyone recommend me a Wireless device for home usage? WiFi signal should cover approx 120m2 of a single floor in a house, with concrete walls.
I was thinking about hAP lite, but someone mentioned poor WiFi coverage and suitable to cover only a single room?
Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

lmns · Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:22 pm

I'm actually really happy with the coverage, but it's probably a good idea to buy one of the APs with higher antenna gain if you're not sure. The hAP lite has ~1.5 dbi and the RB951G-2HnD / RB951Ui-2HnD ~2.5 dbi. There's also the new wAP with 2 dbi.

freemannnn · Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:24 pm

this difference of 1dbi from hap lite and rb951ui-2hnd means that can bypass more walls in a house? or is better in an open area?

lmns · Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:51 pm

Wireless connections and walls are always problematic, but higher antenna gain can give you better results. You won't magically bypass more walls, of course. If it's possible you should just buy more APs and let the clients roam between them.

Basdno · Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:24 am

Hi,

I bought 5 "hAP Lite" boxes to test a while ago.

However I havent been able to test them yet, simply because I cant get the micro-usb plugged into the power socket, and since there is no PoE power option on these boxes I simply cant get them to start.

I feel like I will break the powersocket on the box if I push harder, and it just wont go in. It might be just me not applying enough force, but it doesnt take force to plug in my Mobile phone on its charger f.ex, so I didnt dare to apply anymore force.

I also tested on more boxes in case it was just the first that could have had an defect on the socket, but same problem with all 5.......

Has any1 else had this problem???

Can this be a productionbatch with bad usb powersockets, or am I simply to stupid(

) to get it powered?

It hasnt been a big problem for me (Henche why I havent asked until now), since I normally are using hAP and 951Ui-2HnD. But sometimes suppliers are out of stock and/or some customers also just need a very simple AP so thought id check them out.
And its a bit sad that they just sit on the shelf collecting dust now, so thought Id ask!

Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:50 pm

I have few hap lite devices without any problems with power plug. For poe you can use step down converter to 5v easily.

yara · Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:39 pm

Hello. Have anyone tested WIFI speed? I tried two phones and got 16-18 Mbps download. Connection speed was 50-60 Mbit / 20 MHz. And how to get the channel width 40 MHz?

Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:23 am

Wifi speed is way much faster than the ethernets can reach. Reaching 100mbits throughput constantly over wifi.

Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:03 am

Blowhard

barracuda · Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:09 pm

I also have a problem with speed but then I try some better wi-fi usb adapter no problem with speed anymore.All I can say it is a great router for home use.True that I have some problems with quick setup(I use pppoe connections) when I use netinstall but maybae is a bug in software because when I setup it I can connect but the bridge to the ports not working.
Maybe It would be a good idea to add more options to quick set like chose dns hosts because the most problems is with not working scripts.

Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:48 pm

Blowhard

Not at all. You are not able to reach it too? I see it normally when backups run, for example. Quite common situation.

MTeeker · Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:05 am

For me, I think hAP lite is a perfectly suitable for on-the-road needs, more than for a household with more demands that are likely to stretch its capacity. Viewed in this way, standing up does no more useful purposes than 'sitting down' of the original case.

As for being the traffic cop at home, I'd have thought it requires more crunching power than a hAP lite can deliver with reasonable performance if you demand more of the home traffic cop. While I can also see a hAP lite may be more than adequate for a single person household. I mean no disrespect.

(speaking under a consumer-oriented hat). Cheers

Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:41 am

For me, I think hAP lite is a perfectly suitable for on-the-road needs, more than for a household with more demands that are likely to stretch its capacity. Viewed in this way, standing up does no more useful purposes than 'sitting down' of the original case.

mAP 2n is much-much better for on-the-road needs. The only advantage of hAP lite is it's price tag, but I doubt that would be a deciding factor for an average frequent traveler.

MTeeker · Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:17 pm

I was given an hAP Lite at last MUM in Melbourne and did not know about mAP2n specs at all. So thanks for that info. Cheers.

deanMKD1 · Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:40 am

mAP2N is "Lite" version from hAP Lite.. So performances on hAP Lite and mAP2N is not equal. Note that !

pautinqch · Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:38 pm

Got one Hap lite. Before that was simple pci 100mbit lan-card. You can see internet service provider`s settings from the first pic of the attached files.

This internet service provider refer certain MAC addresses to OpenDNS and static IP-adressess. I`ve called to them and they matched Hap lite`s ether1 mac-adress on their system.

Then I setuped Hap Lite using Winbox. You can see setup process on the pictures of the attached files.

After that as You can see I got internet-connection and internal network bridge.

All was OK and after 2-3 hours Hap lite stop giving away the internet while the connection with it was OK.

Turned on PC and launched Winbox I connected with Hap Lite and rebooted it. As you can see on the last of attached pictures it was not helpful.

The only solution was to use Hap-Lite`s ether1 mac-address with my PCI-lan card (lan-card picture), then I got DNS and external IP. Put back internet service provider`s wire to Hap Lite ether1 I got internet, but the story repeated again after 2-3 hours.

Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:10 pm

pautinqch,

I guess you have to configure DHCP-client on your WAN (ether1) port. Chances are you have to do that even if your IP address never changes (i.e. "static"). It looks like your ISP blocks any traffic from you as soon as DHCP lease (which you obtained when connected your PC directly to your ISP's cable) expires, unless DHCP-client asks to renew the lease.

vortex66 · Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:47 pm

hi , i want to limit the speed and traffic of my wireless users (4 user), does this model can ?

i hear that this model does not support user manager, is it true ?

Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:16 pm

Speed limit is question of queues so no need for userman.

vortex66 · Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:26 pm

Speed limit is question of queues so no need for userman.

thx , what is about limit traffic ? i want to limit internet download and upload for each user , for example user A could use 1 gig traffic for each month and user B 1.5 gig and...

Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:44 pm

Ok. For this case you would need userman. Look for some other (not smips) routerboard.

deanMKD1 · Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:18 am

Ok. For this case you would need userman. Look for some other (not smips) routerboard.

Can use integrated traffic per user in Hotspot without user menager.

In bytres total only need to enter traffic per user and reset counters monthly.

zhup · Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:21 pm

Hi,

is the hAP lite enough powerful for internet link 50Mbit/s / 5Mbit/s used by the five home users?

Thank you in advance.

Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:25 pm

Hi,

is the hAP lite enough powerful for internet link 50Mbit/s / 5Mbit/s used by the five home users?

Thank you in advance.

ohh yes

keep in mind a too complex configuration can change the situation

zhup · Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:38 am

Is it possible in RouterOS that I will create two vpn clients (e.g. openvpn) for only two individual users? The rest of the users should use the standard route.

dannym · Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:17 pm

Hello
I brought RB941-2n.
But I noticed that I cannot connect with some (cheap) phones and tablets.
I’m not sure about the reason but there is an issue with this board and some phones.

zhup · Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:50 am

Hello
I brought RB941-2n.
But I noticed that I cannot connect with some (cheap) phones and tablets.
I’m not sure about the reason but there is an issue with this board and some phones.

RouterOS 6.32.3 ? Wlan 2GHz-B/G/N, 20/40MHz ?

deanMKD1 · Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:07 pm

Change to 20 MHz only and see the difference! Some phones dont understand 40 MHz.

dragon2611 · Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:11 pm

Change to 20 MHz only and see the difference! Some phones dont understand 40 MHz.

Also if you are in Europe or somewhere that allows the use of channels 12,13 make sure you're not actually using them, some devices forget that not everywhere prohibits their use.

HP stream7 comes to mind here but there's plenty more than that.

Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:06 am

dannym, what country setting and center frequency you have specified?
Are you using wireless security? If yes make sure that you have enabled only AES and not TKIP.

dannym · Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:18 pm

Thank you. I selected Latvia, and automatic frequency, also WPA2 Security, I unchecked TKIP, and now everything seems to be perfect. Thanks

satcom · Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:32 pm

Hey.I hawe an interesting problem with hAP lite new model(RB941-2nD-TC), the old models that were lying on the desktop, mangle rules and queue tree are working properly and that great. On the new model , stand upright ,can not to configure my queue tree correctly. I tried upgrade to new sw and os v3.24, but nothing helps. Normis please help, or anyone.

Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:21 pm

On the new model , stand upright ,can not to configure my queue tree correctly.

Just remove fasttrack rules from your firewall configuration.

satcom · Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:29 pm

I dont have fasttrack rules.It is crazy but simple queue and queue tree wont work.

satcom · Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:09 pm

No one have any problems with new model?(RB941-2nD-TC)??

Wintermute · Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:32 am

Hi guys,

I've had the hAP lite RouterBOARD 941-2nD unit up and running for about two days. ROS 6.34rc27, firmware 3.29, no extra packages installed. Basic config 1xWAN, 1xSSID, NAT, 1xOVPN, nothing fancy.

The issue is it has spontaneously rebooted several times already. Last ones being:

dec/30/2015 01:20:26 system,error,critical System rebooted because of kernel failure
dec/30/2015 01:20:26 system,error,critical Out of memory condition was detected
dec/30/2015 01:20:26 system,error,critical router was rebooted without proper shutdown
dec/30/2015 09:28:27 system,error,critical router was rebooted without proper shutdown by watchdog timer

I kept an eye on free memory and it usually fluctuates between 7-10MB. Can't imagine how to improve this situation other than by removing three disposable base packages (hotspot, ipv6, mpls - requires netinstall fashioned reinstall).

I have an OVPN server + certificate installed, though not actively used yet. This could eventually be blamed for extra memory consumption. What really annoys me though is an error message coming like once every hour telling CRL update failed due to low memory. I wonder, is there any option to disable CRL updates? If not, why not? They're pre determined to fail on low resource devices like this anyway.

Will try to remove certificates first and observe the unit for a while. If it crashes then disable OVPN server and observe again.

The router, under normal circumstances, shouldn't struggle to record uptime better than 8 hours, right? I am not stressing it at all, quite contrary it is idling for most of the time.

Cheers,
Tomas

===
Winbox improvement suggestion: enable copy to clipboard from Log screen. I would have thought this to be a prime candidate for clipboard function. Somehow reality disagrees.

+1 for NTP server extra package. It can't be that resource hungry, can be? Negligible peanuts.
===

Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:54 pm

To Engineers @ Mikrotik ... +10 to "respect" for layout routing

hAP_SMD.PNG

darkprocess · Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:45 am

On ROS 6.3.3, After resetting the configuration in winbox, i couldn't get the default configuration.
The only way to have it it's using netinstall.
Is this feature missing in 6.33.3 ?

Thanks

Wintermute · Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:06 pm

Update to my previous post. I have netinstalled ROS 6.34rc30, excluding unneeded packages, replaced regular certificates with self-signed one to avoid CRL errors.

No spontaneous reboots or erratic behavior since then. With OVPN server on. That's promising shift.

Free RAM 8.4MB, free storage 7.6MB.

rezaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa · Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:01 pm

Why does not update its IP router Claude.
Do you have a problem router server.
Please help me.

rezaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa · Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:06 pm

IP router Claude himself two days ago has not updated

rezaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa · Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:07 pm

I need help please advise

rezaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa · Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:08 pm

Do router server is disabled

rrwakc · Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:09 pm

Has anyone checked if the new RB-941-2nd-tc also have option for metarouter removed in winbox. I have ordered mine and still waiting for it to arrive so can't check jet.
I know that flash and ram are limited on this one. But for basic openwrt 3MB of flash and 8mb ram is enough.
And since router OS will be taking care of the WiFi I can even drop wifi encyptions and everything related to WiFi.

Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:36 pm

Don't expect you can run metarouter on hap lite.

Wintermute · Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:12 pm

@rrwakc: no metarouter option is available in Winbox for RB-941-2nd-tc. I checked with my unit. It's also been mentioned earlier in this thread iirc.

rrwakc · Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:14 am

@rrwakc: no metarouter option is available in Winbox for RB-941-2nd-tc. I checked with my unit. It's also been mentioned earlier in this thread iirc.

That post was for the older version(without -tc) and I was hoping they changed it for the new version.
I wanted to be able to create a travel router replacemnt for my wr703N including with the elinks browser installed for keeping hotspot sessions open.

Wintermute · Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:43 pm

@rrwakc ok, i see. I wasn't really aware of any differences other than case/housing design. My unit has -tc printed on the sticker and doesn't have metarouter router option. The router can have 6MB or less free RAM during normal/light operation, so not really any head room for advanced stuff I am afraid.

raymonvdm · Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:29 am

What is the best setup for wifi on the HAP Lite?

I have two of them running as CAP device but i have issues with the wireless connections and i`m not sure what to enable and what not

Do in need to enable HT RX Chain / HT TX Chain ?

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103701

skyhawk · Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:16 am

Congratulations Mikrotik! You've managed to sell me on plastic cases. I love how easily the hAP series devices disassemble. 10 seconds with a thin metal spudger and you're in. No hidden snap-clips to break, no screws into plastic (ugh!), there's adequate ventilation and wall-mount slots. I laughed when I saw how you took the hAP casing and turned it into a hAP-lite with creative sticker use. Your $30 (Canadian pesos) router has better physical design than my $80 Linksys that I'll be replacing soon.

Edit: Apparently my HAP-lite is old stock and I just found a picture online of the -tc variant. Wow. That is an ugly piece of kit. Sorry Mikrotik, I don't buy the "users complain if they're dumb" argument. I hate it when companies stop selling me products I want to buy in the name of protecting me from my own stupidity.

Keep up the industrial design. Not all of us want expensive unventilated unservicable turds that can't be wall mounted that "look at home in the living room".

I'm curious about the unpopulated headers on the RB941-2nD.

There are two four-pin headers LD204 and LD205 which I presume are for LEDs. /system leds only has the one controllable LED in it though. So do these headers work (Could I solder on additional LEDs?), and if so is there a way to make RouterOS aware of them?

I also see a four-pin header marked TX, RX, 3V3 and GND, which looks a lot like an rs232 header. Again, if I was to solder pins to this is the board physically capable of driving an rs232 port, and if so would it be possible to enable it in RouterOS for general use or console access to the OS?

(I will probably never do either of these things, but the curious nerd in me wants to know)

ytinirt · Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:11 pm

Hi

I'm also curious about the tx rx 3v3 gnd. I bought two 941 2nd tc and tried to upgrade both to 6.33.5. One upgraded without a problem, the other did not - it's not accessible, im unable to reset it and can't get it to work with netinstall. The led's blink as supposed to, but when it should be in netinstall mode - nothing happens.
I thought I give serial connection a try - but i would appreciate confirmation that these headers are for rs232.

eduardoha · Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:29 pm

Anybody can help me i tried many time to reset i hold button for 15 second and even more but still my router redirect to hotspot even to access main ip 192.168.88.1 and also i cant ping 192.168.88.1 at all. please help me any way i can reset hap lite directly on board if reset button not work like my situation !!
to reset, do it like this:

- turn off hAP (unplug)
- push reset button and hold it
- plug power (turn on hAP)
- keep holding button until you see one of the LEDs flashing
- release button

you can also try to start holding the button right AFTER plugging power.

I just bought a hAP ac router. I couldn't log into it's default IP @ and had to go through this factory-reset-like procedure... not so great first impression on a new product I'm afraid... hopefully just "bad luck"

Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:50 pm

Use winbox and connect by mac address.

Cha0s · Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:13 pm

I just bought a hAP ac router. I couldn't log into it's default IP @ and had to go through this factory-reset-like procedure... not so great first impression on a new product I'm afraid... hopefully just "bad luck"

You are confusing MikroTik RouterOS (which is the operating system) with the Routerboard brand (which is the hardware you bought).

You can't judge the hardware based on the default configuration of the OS (which works perfectly fine btw - if you follow the instructions)
It's like judging a new laptop by the pre-installed crapware it comes with by its vendor!

Most likely you didn't follow the instructions and connected your computer on the first port which is the 'wan' port using the default configuration.

Eitherway, doing a netinstall on a brand new routerboard is standard procedure for me.
Like when buying a new laptop and re-installing Windows (or Linux) from scratch

Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:16 am

I had never needed to netinstall new device. I always install the version I need with only selected packages that I need, remove the default config and make own configuration. No reason for netinstall unless the device is bricked or otherwise misbehaving.

pcunite · Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:55 pm

Please bring back the old case design. The new standup case looks so silly. Also, does not wall mount well.

freemannnn · Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:32 pm

I dont like also the new case

eduardoha · Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:53 am

I just bought a hAP ac router. I couldn't log into it's default IP @ and had to go through this factory-reset-like procedure... not so great first impression on a new product I'm afraid... hopefully just "bad luck"
You are confusing MikroTik RouterOS (which is the operating system) with the Routerboard brand (which is the hardware you bought).

You can't judge the hardware based on the default configuration of the OS (which works perfectly fine btw - if you follow the instructions)
It's like judging a new laptop by the pre-installed crapware it comes with by its vendor!

Most likely you didn't follow the instructions and connected your computer on the first port which is the 'wan' port using the default configuration.

Eitherway, doing a netinstall on a brand new routerboard is standard procedure for me.
Like when buying a new laptop and re-installing Windows (or Linux) from scratch

I did follow the very simple instructions step by step

The factory reset procedure solved the issue (did not connect to another port...). I'm not judging the HW. Actually I'm pretty satisfied with it after spending some time exploring the configurations. It's a pretty impressive small box.

I was only referring to the first experience with the new product and I'm sorry but every single time I buy HW, regardless of the nature, I expect it to work without having to go into forums to find out what's wrong. I'm not happy when my first experience with a Product that I'm not yet familiar with requires troubleshooting. I don't think anyone does.

But again, this is the only negative point I've found so far. Otherwise pretty satisfied

krokos · Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:19 pm

Hello, I have rb941-2nd. Is there some kind of mod to make a additional usb port for lte modem?

shovon · Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:50 pm

Please bring back the old case design. The new standup case looks so silly. Also, does not wall mount well.

hAP lite's wireless is very low powered, and keeping the device vertical somewhat improves the signal. May be that's why they redesigned its' case and made it vertical.

pcunite · Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:48 pm

hAP lite's wireless is very low powered, and keeping the device vertical somewhat improves the signal. May be that's why they redesigned its' case and made it vertical.

Not to be argumentative, but do you expect users to keep it in the right orientation? I found a seller who has the older case design, so I'm happy to be getting them.

honzam · Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:10 pm

It seems - old design is back

http://routerboard.com/RB941-2nD
It is in current products, not in archive.

Thanks Mikrotik

Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:15 pm

Vox populi, vox fabrica

soonwai · Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:53 pm

I love the hAP Lite. It's so economical. It works great as a simple wired AP. Currently testing 2 of them in place of 1 RB951Ui-2HnD and having great results. Sadly, the lack of POE-IN is limiting if you don't have a power socket nearby. The worst thing is that all of the suppliers in my country only has the -TC so wall mounting is a bit of a pain.

ploquets · Fri May 06, 2016 3:45 pm

Is it possible to implement a better antenna ? By opening and weld a 5dbi antenna for example?

wnet · Mon May 09, 2016 1:50 pm

Sorry, but I no more see how post a new topic...
I have Fiber or xDSL line > RB3011 (NAT/masquerade) > Ubiquiti CPE with no problem with NAT for DVRs, hAP lite port 80.
Only port 8291 for winbox it seems impossible to access from external. I am sure, based on tests, that it's Ubiquiti that stops it, but WHY?
HAP ports setup is OK also because as default. Winbox and hAP FW last versions. Where is the stop then? Thanks to all

Mon May 09, 2016 2:01 pm

Sorry, but I no more see how post a new topic...
I have Fiber or xDSL line > RB3011 (NAT/masquerade) > Ubiquiti CPE with no problem with NAT for DVRs, hAP lite port 80.
Only port 8291 for winbox it seems impossible to access from external. I am sure, based on tests, that it's Ubiquiti that stops it, but WHY?
HAP ports setup is OK also because as default. Winbox and hAP FW last versions. Where is the stop then? Thanks to all

You can't make topics in the Accouncement section. Please make a new topic in one of the other sections

portugars · Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:40 pm

Good morning, I am new with respect to Mikrotik, and bought a HAP-2nd RB941-TC Lite and I've tried everything to make it work with 2 Wan ports and a Lan and Wifi. Follow various procedures router configuration-OS and everything seems ok, but does not work the 2 wan ports. Someone with this model managed to configure 2 wan ports with fail-over or loadbalance?

lustyffh · Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:56 pm

Good morning, I am new with respect to Mikrotik, and bought a HAP-2nd RB941-TC Lite and I've tried everything to make it work with 2 Wan ports and a Lan and Wifi. Follow various procedures router configuration-OS and everything seems ok, but does not work the 2 wan ports. Someone with this model managed to configure 2 wan ports with fail-over or loadbalance?

please be more specific as to what kind of problem you are facing when configure multi-wan

Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:02 pm

Remove the ports from switch / bridge to have them alone. Otherwise you cannot use them independently as wan ports.

portugars · Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:18 pm

Remove the ports from switch / bridge to have them alone. Otherwise you cannot use them independently as wan ports.

In Switch, all ports are whith state as: "vlan mode disabled" and the bridge is the Wireless whith the Lan.

portugars · Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:44 pm

Good morning, I am new with respect to Mikrotik, and bought a HAP-2nd RB941-TC Lite and I've tried everything to make it work with 2 Wan ports and a Lan and Wifi. Follow various procedures router configuration-OS and everything seems ok, but does not work the 2 wan ports. Someone with this model managed to configure 2 wan ports with fail-over or loadbalance?
please be more specific as to what kind of problem you are facing when configure multi-wan

is configured on eth1 (wan) with the name of 01net, eth2 (lan) with 02lan in bridge with the wlan, eth3 (wan2) as 03gvt and eth4 (not used) as ether4. It turns out that when the wan 01net falls, users no longer have internet access over the wan 03gvt even though on the routes the pcc

portugars · Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:03 pm

my export here:

[admin@MikroTik] > export
# jun/16/2016 15:36:39 by RouterOS 6.35.4
# software id = Y6T3-ZYUP
#
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=E4:8D:8C:DD:BF:D2 auto-mac=no comment=defconf name=bridge
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] band=2ghz-b/g/n channel-width=20/40mhz-Ce country=brazil disabled=no distance=indoors frequency=auto mode=ap-bridge ssid=\
MikroTik wireless-protocol=802.11
/interface ethernet
set [ find default-name=ether1 ] name=01net
set [ find default-name=ether2 ] name=02lan
set [ find default-name=ether3 ] name=03gvt
/ip neighbor discovery
set "01net" discover=no
set bridge comment=defconf
/interface ethernet switch port
set 0 default-vlan-id=1
set 2 default-vlan-id=2
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] authentication-types=wpa-psk,wpa2-psk mode=dynamic-keys wpa-pre-shared-key=1566650310 wpa2-pre-shared-key=234523543
/ip pool
add name=dhcp ranges=10.1.1.3-10.1.1.254
add name=vpn ranges=192.168.89.2-192.168.89.255
/ip dhcp-server
add address-pool=dhcp disabled=no interface=bridge name=defconf src-address=10.1.1.3
/ppp profile
set *FFFFFFFE local-address=192.168.89.1 remote-address=vpn
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=02lan
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=wlan1
/interface l2tp-server server
set enabled=yes ipsec-secret=dsdfgsdfgsg0310 use-ipsec=yes
/interface pptp-server server
set enabled=yes
/interface sstp-server server
set default-profile=default-encryption enabled=yes
/ip address
add address=10.1.1.2/24 comment=defconf interface=02lan network=10.1.1.0
add address=192.168.1.2/24 interface=03gvt network=192.168.1.0
add address=192.168.25.2/24 interface=01net network=192.168.25.0
/ip cloud
set ddns-enabled=yes
/ip dhcp-client
add comment=defconf dhcp-options=hostname,clientid interface=01net
add default-route-distance=0 dhcp-options=hostname,clientid interface=03gvt
/ip dhcp-server network
add address=10.1.1.0/24 comment=defconf gateway=10.1.1.2 netmask=24
/ip dns
set allow-remote-requests=yes servers=8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4
/ip dns static
add address=192.168.1.2 name=router
/ip firewall filter
add chain=input comment="defconf: accept ICMP" protocol=icmp
add chain=input comment="defconf: accept established,related" connection-state=established,related
add chain=input comment="allow l2tp" dst-port=1701 protocol=udp
add chain=input comment="allow pptp" dst-port=1723 protocol=tcp
add chain=input comment="allow sstp" dst-port=443 protocol=tcp
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop all from WAN" in-interface=01net
add action=fasttrack-connection chain=forward comment="defconf: fasttrack" connection-state=established,related
add chain=forward comment="defconf: accept established,related" connection-state=established,related
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop invalid" connection-state=invalid
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop all from WAN not DSTNATed" connection-nat-state=!dstnat connection-state=new in-interface=01net
/ip firewall mangle
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting comment="SITE POR LINK" connection-state=new dst-address-list=LINK0 in-interface=bridge new-connection-mark=\
Sites0
add action=mark-routing chain=prerouting connection-mark=Sites0 in-interface=bridge new-routing-mark=Rota0 passthrough=no
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting connection-state=new dst-address-list=LINK1 in-interface=bridge new-connection-mark=Sites1
add action=mark-routing chain=prerouting connection-mark=Sites1 in-interface=bridge new-routing-mark=Rota1 passthrough=no
add action=add-dst-to-address-list address-list=ftp_con address-list-timeout=6h chain=prerouting comment="FTP FORA DO BALANCE" dst-port=21 in-interface=\
bridge protocol=tcp
add chain=prerouting dst-address-list=ftp_con in-interface=bridge
add chain=prerouting comment="OUTRAS PORTAS FORA DO LOADBALACED" dst-port=443,5000-6999,8080 in-interface=bridge protocol=tcp
add chain=prerouting dst-port=443,5000-6999,8080 in-interface=bridge protocol=udp
add chain=prerouting comment="ACEITA REDE" dst-address=192.168.0.0/24 in-interface=bridge
add chain=prerouting dst-address=192.168.1.0/24 in-interface=bridge
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting comment="MARCA CONEXAO ENTRADA PARA VOLTAR PELO MESMO LINK" connection-state=new in-interface=01net \
new-connection-mark=01net_conn
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting connection-state=new in-interface=03gvt new-connection-mark=03gvt_conn
add action=mark-routing chain=output connection-mark=01net_conn new-routing-mark=to_01net
add action=mark-routing chain=output connection-mark=03gvt_conn new-routing-mark=to_03gvt
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting comment="BALANCEANDO CONEXAO" connection-state=established dst-address-type=!local in-interface=bridge \
new-connection-mark=01net_conn per-connection-classifier=both-addresses-and-ports:3/0
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting connection-state=established dst-address-type=!local in-interface=bridge new-connection-mark=01net_conn \
per-connection-classifier=both-addresses-and-ports:3/1
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting connection-state=established dst-address-type=!local in-interface=bridge new-connection-mark=03gvt_conn \
per-connection-classifier=both-addresses-and-ports:3/2
add action=mark-routing chain=prerouting comment="DIRECIONA MARCACAO PARA ROTEAMENTO" connection-mark=01net_conn in-interface=bridge new-routing-mark=\
to_01net
add action=mark-routing chain=prerouting connection-mark=03gvt_conn in-interface=bridge new-routing-mark=to_03gvt
/ip firewall nat
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat comment="defconf: masquerade" out-interface=01net
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat disabled=yes out-interface=03gvt
/ip route
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.57.1 routing-mark=Rota0
add disabled=yes distance=1 gateway=192.168.56.1 routing-mark=Rota0
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.57.1 routing-mark=Rota1
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.56.1 routing-mark=Rota1
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.57.1 routing-mark=to_01net
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.56.1 routing-mark=to_01net
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.56.1 routing-mark=to_03gvt
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.57.1 routing-mark=to_03gvt
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.56.1
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.57.1
add distance=1 dst-address=8.8.8.8/32 gateway=192.168.0.1 scope=10
add distance=20 dst-address=8.8.8.8/32 type=blackhole
add check-gateway=ping distance=1 dst-address=192.168.56.1/32 gateway=208.67.220.220 scope=10
add check-gateway=ping distance=1 dst-address=192.168.56.1/32 gateway=200.160.2.3 scope=10
add check-gateway=ping distance=1 dst-address=192.168.57.1/32 gateway=208.67.222.222 scope=10
add check-gateway=ping distance=1 dst-address=192.168.57.1/32 gateway=8.8.8.8 scope=10
add distance=1 dst-address=200.160.2.3/32 gateway=192.168.1.1 scope=10
add distance=20 dst-address=200.160.2.3/32 type=blackhole
add distance=1 dst-address=208.67.220.220/32 gateway=192.168.1.1 scope=10
add distance=20 dst-address=208.67.220.220/32 type=blackhole
add distance=1 dst-address=208.67.222.222/32 gateway=192.168.0.1 scope=10
add distance=20 dst-address=208.67.222.222/32 type=blackhole
/ppp secret
add name=vpn password=dudako346456
/system clock
set time-zone-name=America/Sao_Paulo
/system routerboard settings
# Firmware upgraded successfully, please reboot for changes to take effect!
set cpu-frequency=650MHz protected-routerboot=disabled
/system scheduler
add comment=mundolimpo.ddns.net interval=5m name=sdfgsdfgsdfgsdfg.ddns.net on-event=earagrr.ddns.net policy=read,write,test start-date=may/18/2016 start-time=\
10:54:22
add comment=mundolimpogvt.ddns.net interval=5m name=agadfgafdgvt.ddns.net on-event=adgasdgadgt.ddns.net policy=read,write,test start-date=may/18/2016 \
start-time=10:54:31
/system script
add name=dfdfasdfo.ddns.net owner=admin policy=read,write,test source="# DNS Din\E2mico usando No-IP asdfasdfasdfasd.ddns.net pela GVT (3\AAporta 03gvt) do Rou\
terBoart Mikrotik\r\
\n# DNS Din\E2mico usando No-IP mundolimpo.ddns.net pela NET (1\AAporta 01net) do RouterBoart Mikrotik\r\
\n\r\
\n\r\
\n#--------------- Altere os valores abaixo com suas informa\E7\F5es corretas ------------------\r\
\n\r\
\n# Conta de Usu\E1rio e Senha do No-IP\r\
\n:local noipuser \"SFasdfnet\"\r\
\n:local noippass \"dSDFASDFo150310\"\r\
\n\r\
\n# Especifique o endere\E7o do seu no-ip a ser usado\r\
\n#:local noiphost \"\SDFSDFASDFo.ddns.net\" = NET\r\
\n#:local noiphost \"m\SDFASDFt.ddns.net\" = GVT\r\
\n:local noiphost \"mSDFASDFASDF.ddns.net\"\r\
\n\r\
\n# Coloque aqui o nome de sua interface WAN (INTERNET)\r\
\n#:local inetinterface \"01net\"\r\
\n#:local inetinterface \"03gvt\"\r\
\n:local inetinterface \"01net\"\r\
\n\r\
\n#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\r\
\n# N\E3o mude mais nada daqui em diante!\r\
\n\r\
\n:global previousIP\r\
\n\r\
\n:if ([/interface get \$inetinterface value-name=running]) do={\r\
\n# Get the current IP on the interface\r\
\n :local currentIP [/ip address get [find interface=\"\$inetinterface\" disabled=no] address]\r\
\n\r\
\n# Strip the net mask off the IP address\r\
\n :for i from=( [:len \$currentIP] - 1) to=0 do={\r\
\n :if ( [:pick \$currentIP \$i] = \"/\") do={ \r\
\n :set currentIP [:pick \$currentIP 0 \$i]\r\
\n } \r\
\n }\r\
\n\r\
\n :if (\$currentIP != \$previousIP) do={\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: Current IP \$currentIP is not equal to previous IP, update needed\"\r\
\n :set previousIP \$currentIP\r\
\n\r\
\n# The update URL. Note the \"\\3F\" is hex for question mark. Required since is a special character in commands.\r\
\n :local url \"http://dynupdate.no-ip.com/nic/update\\ ... rentIP\"\r\
\n :local noiphostarray\r\
\n :set noiphostarray [:toarray \$noiphost]\r\
\n :foreach host in=\$noiphostarray do={\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: Sending update for \$host\"\r\
\n /tool fetch url=(\$url . \"&hostname=\$host\") user=\$noipuser password=\$noippass mode=http Dst-path=(\"no-ip_ddns_update-\" . \$host . \".t\
xt\")\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: Host \$host updated on No-IP with IP \$currentIP\"\r\
\n }\r\
\n } else={\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: Previous IP \$previousIP is equal to current IP, no update needed\"\r\
\n }\r\
\n} else={\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: \$inetinterface is not currently running, so therefore will not update.\"\r\
\n}"
add name=SDFASDFASDF.ddns.net owner=admin policy=read,write,test source="# DNS Din\E2mico usando No-IP \AS\ASDasd.ddns.net pela GVT (3\AAporta 03gvt) do \
RouterBoart Mikrotik\r\
\n# DNS Din\E2mico usando No-IP sasdasdASDo.ddns.net pela NET (1\AAporta 01net) do RouterBoart Mikrotik\r\
\n\r\
\n\r\
\n#--------------- Altere os valores abaixo com suas informa\E7\F5es corretas ------------------\r\
\n\r\
\n# Conta de Usu\E1rio e Senha do No-IP\r\
\n:local noipuser \"mundoASDFASDFt\"\r\
\n:local noippass \"\ZFA\SDFsdf10\"\r\
\n\r\
\n# Especifique o endere\E7o do seu no-ip a ser usado\r\
\n#:local noiphost \"asdfasdfasdf.ddns.net\" = NET\r\
\n#:local noiphost \"sdfasdfasdfasdfas.ddns.net\" = GVT\r\
\n:local noiphost \"sdfasdfasdfat.ddns.net\"\r\
\n\r\
\n# Coloque aqui o nome de sua interface WAN (INTERNET)\r\
\n#:local inetinterface \"01net\"\r\
\n#:local inetinterface \"03gvt\"\r\
\n:local inetinterface \"03gvt\"\r\
\n\r\
\n#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\r\
\n# N\E3o mude mais nada daqui em diante!\r\
\n\r\
\n:global previousIP\r\
\n\r\
\n:if ([/interface get \$inetinterface value-name=running]) do={\r\
\n# Get the current IP on the interface\r\
\n :local currentIP [/ip address get [find interface=\"\$inetinterface\" disabled=no] address]\r\
\n\r\
\n# Strip the net mask off the IP address\r\
\n :for i from=( [:len \$currentIP] - 1) to=0 do={\r\
\n :if ( [:pick \$currentIP \$i] = \"/\") do={ \r\
\n :set currentIP [:pick \$currentIP 0 \$i]\r\
\n } \r\
\n }\r\
\n\r\
\n :if (\$currentIP != \$previousIP) do={\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: Current IP \$currentIP is not equal to previous IP, update needed\"\r\
\n :set previousIP \$currentIP\r\
\n\r\
\n# The update URL. Note the \"\\3F\" is hex for question mark . Required since is a special character in commands.\r\
\n :local url \"http://dynupdate.no-ip.com/nic/update\\ ... rentIP\"\r\
\n :local noiphostarray\r\
\n :set noiphostarray [:toarray \$noiphost]\r\
\n :foreach host in=\$noiphostarray do={\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: Sending update for \$host\"\r\
\n /tool fetch url=(\$url . \"&hostname=\$host\") user=\$noipuser password=\$noippass mode=http Dst-path=(\"no-ip_ddns_update-\" . \$host . \".t\
xt\")\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: Host \$host updated on No-IP with IP \$currentIP\"\r\
\n }\r\
\n } else={\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: Previous IP \$previousIP is equal to current IP, no update needed\"\r\
\n }\r\
\n} else={\r\
\n :log info \"No-IP: \$inetinterface is not currently running, so therefore will not update.\"\r\
\n}"
/tool mac-server
set [ find default=yes ] disabled=yes
add interface=bridge
/tool mac-server mac-winbox
set [ find default=yes ] disabled=yes
add interface=bridge

darkprocess · Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:55 pm

Your credentials in your scriptsare visible. Remove them

portugars · Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:43 pm

All credentials are fake like sdfadfasdf

florentrivoire · Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:00 pm

All credentials are fake like sdfadfasdf

Are you sure about this one :

/ppp secret add name=vpn password=dudako346456

?

portugars · Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:12 pm

it isn't dudako346456

florentrivoire · Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:16 pm

it isn't dudako346456

OK, sorry for the insistence.

portugars · Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:31 pm

Does anyone have this model working with 2 wan and the failover an loadbalance working?

darkprocess · Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:53 pm

It's not a problem of modele but of setup

Envoyé de mon SM-G925F en utilisant Tapatalk

portugars · Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:14 pm

It's not a problem of modele but of setup

Envoyé de mon SM-G925F en utilisant Tapatalk

Can you please tellme were my setup is wrong please

darkprocess · Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:31 pm

https://aacable.wordpress.com/2011/07/2 ... t-by-zaib/

Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:39 pm

Can you please tellme were my setup is wrong please

Several things:

1. You are not using HW switching (no port has master-port options set), so this settings seem wrong. They should do nothing at best:

/interface ethernet switch port
set 0 default-vlan-id=1
set 2 default-vlan-id=2

2. Your 02lan interface is a bridge member, so the following configuration snippet is wrong. Never assign IP address to the bridge members, you should only assign it to the bridge interface itself.

/ip address
add address=10.1.1.2/24 comment=defconf interface=02lan network=10.1.1.0

These might not be related to your problem, though. The config in general looks messy, you probably do not understand what you're doing. I suggest you removing your current configuration and starting building new one from scratch, one feature at a time. Also please make sure you understand what exactly you are trying to achieve.

Talking about hAP lite in general- it is definitely possible to setup this tiny thing for dual-wan. I have one in my lab at home, it's incredibly flexible despite the price.

portugars · Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:05 pm

Can anyone send me an functional export of a harp lite with 2 wan a lan in bridge wit the wifi and the loadbalance and failover functional?

s54mtb · Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:26 am

I have AP (groove, L4) with home LAN & internet access. Now I would like to add another AP which can bridge LAN to this WiFi and work as AP + isolated AP (for guests) at the same time. Is hAP lite OK for such task?

Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:49 am

It is. The question is what will be the physical result in terms of wifi connection...

ErfanDL · Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:17 pm

I have AP (groove, L4) with home LAN & internet access. Now I would like to add another AP which can bridge LAN to this WiFi and work as AP + isolated AP (for guests) at the same time. Is hAP lite OK for such task?

Yeah hAP Lite can do it

sheikh0000 · Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:18 pm

i have configured 705 routerboad hostspot but i unable to limit bandwidth.

Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:34 pm

... And what is the relation to the hap lite?

sheikh0000 · Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:00 am

Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:06 am

Please make a new topic with your question about the hotspot on your RB750

xbliss · Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:51 pm

Can this box be use to do a Dual WAN? Switch/ over/ Failover and /or Bandwidth Bonding? - Is that a function of the Router OS Level rather the box? Please guide. Thanks.

We have a 1 or 2 machines at a remote dusty workshop type location (where the DSL is crappy & the backup 3G USB modem is nothing better either) where putting anything expensive or complex (subject to maintenance) is out of the question.

xbliss · Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:53 pm

If possible to do the above, I'd love to partake in this as well. Thanks.

Can anyone send me an functional export of a harp lite with 2 wan a lan in bridge wit the wifi and the loadbalance and failover functional?

Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:19 pm

Can this box be use to do a Dual WAN? Switch/ over/ Failover and /or Bandwidth Bonding? - Is that a function of the Router OS Level rather the box? Please guide. Thanks.

We have a 1 or 2 machines at a remote dusty workshop type location (where the DSL is crappy & the backup 3G USB modem is nothing better either) where putting anything expensive or complex (subject to maintenance) is out of the question.

It is. But always take into account that all ethernets share common 100Mbit lane to the CPU and the CPU is not the fastest ever at all...

xbliss · Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:36 pm

Can this box be use to do a Dual WAN? Switch/ over/ Failover and /or Bandwidth Bonding? - Is that a function of the Router OS Level rather the box? Please guide. Thanks.

We have a 1 or 2 machines at a remote dusty workshop type location (where the DSL is crappy & the backup 3G USB modem is nothing better either) where putting anything expensive or complex (subject to maintenance) is out of the question.
It is. But always take into account that all ethernets share common 100Mbit lane to the CPU and the CPU is not the fastest ever at all...

Thanks. True. The performance wont be phenomenal, but the location does not have the bandwidth anyways. So, at the cost of a consumer router I'd prefer the HabLite.

Is there a guide or Settings sample for Dual WAN that you can guide me towards? That way I can get my hands wet on Router OS and maybe my next one will be a higher variation from the product line.

Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:31 pm

I think it's in the manual. Have you seen it? Also the Google gives the hit on the top.
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Advanced ... _Scripting

macsrwe · Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:22 pm

If possible to do the above, I'd love to partake in this as well. Thanks.
Can anyone send me an functional export of a harp lite with 2 wan a lan in bridge wit the wifi and the loadbalance and failover functional?

The bridge is trivial, the fail over is not difficult, but multi WAN is a thorny issue regardless of what router you select. You cannot simply configure the router to route traffic to either WAN indiscriminately, because it breaks stateful protocols such as HTTPS and others. You must sit down and manually make decisions as to what traffic will normally use which WAN, either by traffic type, source, or target; and then configure mangle rules and discretionary routing tables to ensure that all of this type of traffic goes to the same WAN all the time (subject to fail over). Everyone has to make these choices for himself depending on his own traffic characteristics, which is why there is no cookbook answer to this problem.

Since this topic is not specific to the hAP lite, you should search the forum for other threads that deal with it, and discuss it there.

xbliss · Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:06 am

If possible to do the above, I'd love to partake in this as well. Thanks.
Can anyone send me an functional export of a harp lite with 2 wan a lan in bridge wit the wifi and the loadbalance and failover functional?
The bridge is trivial, the fail over is not difficult, but multi WAN is a thorny issue regardless of what router you select. You cannot simply configure the router to route traffic to either WAN indiscriminately, because it breaks stateful protocols such as HTTPS and others. You must sit down and manually make decisions as to what traffic will normally use which WAN, either by traffic type, source, or target; and then configure mangle rules and discretionary routing tables to ensure that all of this type of traffic goes to the same WAN all the time (subject to fail over). Everyone has to make these choices for himself depending on his own traffic characteristics, which is why there is no cookbook answer to this problem.

Since this topic is not specific to the hAP lite, you should search the forum for other threads that deal with it, and discuss it there.

Thanks. Also, is there a chart for the various models that compares/ shows WAN to LAN throughout performance so people may choose appropriate device?

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macsrwe · Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:10 am

is there a chart for the various models that compares/ shows WAN to LAN throughout performance so people may choose appropriate device?

Not all in one place, I think, but at routerboard.com every device has a data sheet that shows bit and packet throughput for various configurations. In general, you get what you pay for.

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xbliss · Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:30 pm

is there a chart for the various models that compares/ shows WAN to LAN throughout performance so people may choose appropriate device?
Not all in one place, I think, but at routerboard.com every device has a data sheet that shows bit and packet throughput for various configurations. In general, you get what you pay for.

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Of course, but wouldn't a product matrix + benchmarks be favorable for prospective and existing customers (and the Product seller/ Maker) so that they can easily choose the product of the right fit and scale. Going through each data sheet is like saying that we wont have a unified view on our product portfolio.

macsrwe · Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:41 pm

Regardless of the arguments for its desirability, none exists as far as I know. There is a unified guide available across models as far as radio signal strength and distance, but none that I know of for routing power. The only cross model indicator I know of in that regard is the unit price tag. Someone else may know of a guide that I have overlooked.

espacioint · Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:48 am

I have more than 200 of this boxes installed.
It works quite good (2 dbi of gain on the antenna would be much better...).
But I have to say that the power connector is not a good choice.
I have more than 10 with problems because of this...
You have to look for a better option.

Thanks.

andymok · Tue May 15, 2018 6:39 pm

Just got one, I haven't tested it out yet but I like the form factor a lot.

It's great for temp. use / live event / field testing or troubleshooting. No need to worry whether there's spare outlet, great for IoT. If there's a USB port it will work.

I did think about mAP but this has just enough RJ45 ports for simple port mirroring, or act as a switch to control several things together, ie LED display panel.

I really hope it has Gigabit Eth ports, as some of my gear must use them, otherwise it won't even connect and get an IP address. Is it the price point or the 5V USB supply keeping GbE ports away from it? I would really like to hear.

I work in a SI company offering professional audio/video-engineering solutions, so I think this is a great product for field deployment, as well as a great tool to learn the underlying protocols, how my things actually works

macsrwe · Tue May 15, 2018 8:22 pm

Just got one, I haven't tested it out yet but I like the form factor a lot.

It's great for temp. use / live event / field testing or troubleshooting. No need to worry whether there's spare outlet, great for IoT. If there's a USB port it will work.

I did think about mAP but this has just enough RJ45 ports for simple port mirroring, or act as a switch to control several things together, ie LED display panel.

I really hope it has Gigabit Eth ports, as some of my gear must use them, otherwise it won't even connect and get an IP address. Is it the price point or the 5V USB supply keeping GbE ports away from it? I would really like to hear.

I work in a SI company offering professional audio/video-engineering solutions, so I think this is a great product for field deployment, as well as a great tool to learn the underlying protocols, how my things actually works

Lowest cost MikroTik cased unit with gigabit and multiple ports is hAP ac2. There are none powered by USB +5V. Go to https://mikrotik.com/products/group/wir ... and-office#! and use the filters in the left column to choose gigabit.

andymok · Wed May 16, 2018 6:46 am

Just got one, I haven't tested it out yet but I like the form factor a lot.

It's great for temp. use / live event / field testing or troubleshooting. No need to worry whether there's spare outlet, great for IoT. If there's a USB port it will work.

I did think about mAP but this has just enough RJ45 ports for simple port mirroring, or act as a switch to control several things together, ie LED display panel.

I really hope it has Gigabit Eth ports, as some of my gear must use them, otherwise it won't even connect and get an IP address. Is it the price point or the 5V USB supply keeping GbE ports away from it? I would really like to hear.

I work in a SI company offering professional audio/video-engineering solutions, so I think this is a great product for field deployment, as well as a great tool to learn the underlying protocols, how my things actually works
Lowest cost MikroTik cased unit with gigabit and multiple ports is hAP ac2. There are none powered by USB +5V. Go to https://mikrotik.com/products/group/wir ... and-office#! and use the filters in the left column to choose gigabit.

Yes I'm aware of that, I use a hAP ac (1) at home actually. Just want to know why USB power and GbE don't mix together, is it because of the price, or technical challenges like 5V simply not sufficient for GbE? Since it seems all USB-powered only have FE available (mAP, mAP lite and hAP lite)

Etz · Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:28 pm

Just want to know why USB power and GbE don't mix together, is it because of the price, or technical challenges like 5V simply not sufficient for GbE? Since it seems all USB-powered only have FE available (mAP, mAP lite and hAP lite)

Power consumption of GbE chipsets.
Ever wondered why there is no passively cooled 10G switches?

LeftyTs · Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:56 pm

Ever wondered why there is no passively cooled 10G switches?

It is only a matter of time. As things get smaller power consumption will eventually decrease and passive cooling will be possible.

andymok · Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:27 pm

Just want to know why USB power and GbE don't mix together, is it because of the price, or technical challenges like 5V simply not sufficient for GbE? Since it seems all USB-powered only have FE available (mAP, mAP lite and hAP lite)
Power consumption of GbE chipsets.
Ever wondered why there is no passively cooled 10G switches?

Oh I see......hope they'll release one with USB-C in future

xbliss · Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:51 pm

Just got one, I haven't tested it out yet but I like the form factor a lot.

It's great for temp. use / live event / field testing or troubleshooting. No need to worry whether there's spare outlet, great for IoT. If there's a USB port it will work.

I did think about mAP but this has just enough RJ45 ports for simple port mirroring, or act as a switch to control several things together, ie LED display panel.

I really hope it has Gigabit Eth ports, as some of my gear must use them, otherwise it won't even connect and get an IP address. Is it the price point or the 5V USB supply keeping GbE ports away from it? I would really like to hear.

I work in a SI company offering professional audio/video-engineering solutions, so I think this is a great product for field deployment, as well as a great tool to learn the underlying protocols, how my things actually works
Lowest cost MikroTik cased unit with gigabit and multiple ports is hAP ac2. There are none powered by USB +5V. Go to https://mikrotik.com/products/group/wir ... and-office#! and use the filters in the left column to choose gigabit.

Thanks for that Link & Filter. Atleast something positive in terms of "Product Filtering"

NetWorker · Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:26 pm

@xbliss, performance varies A LOT with different rules and setups. There used to be no numbers at all since it can vary so much. For example the charts are published for zero or 25 ip filter rules. However the load on the cpu is not linear and you can't really extrapolate and say "ok, so 13 rules will give me double the bandwidth". It doesn't work that way. Mainly because not all traffic goes through all the rules anyway.

My advice to you is if you are planning on buying a bunch of these for a specific mission, get one or two, set them up and test your setup in all possible scenarios so you know for a fact that it'll work. And if you're planning on buying one of these for yourself and home use, it'll probably be sufficient but don't cheap out and either get a hAPac or select a router for your needs and buy a separate access point. Which is the best solution anyway because you can place it in a different location of where all the wires are at and maximize wifi coverage.

DanchoDimitrov · Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:52 pm

Something like RB450Gx4 with a few RBcAPGi-5acD2nD or whatever APs?

mkx · Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:06 am

Something like RB450Gx4 ...?

Or, if amount of RAM and storage offered by RB450Gx4 is not needed, a RBD52G (with wireless disabled) might be considered as well ... comes with a case and lower price-tag while offering same wired performance.

Keybet · Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:07 pm

Any word on NAND storage? Is it going to be like a normal RouterBoard with somewhere between 32-64MiB minimum, or is it going to be more like an mAP in that respect, with the same kind of software update procedure as an mAP?

-- Nathan
yes, it is a SMIPS
Code: Select all
total-hdd-space: 16.0MiB

So how would I troubleshoot a RB951-2nD that keeps booting on its own-I cannot log in to them even after a hard reset. Also others have 'internet port'-port 1, blinking even with no ethernet cable plugged in. Another which seem not to be getting enough juice i am assuming the power supply on the PCB has an issue?

r00t · Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:27 pm

Dim or flickering LEDs and rebooting are usually signs of bad capacitors on board, check all the electrolytic caps and possibly replace them.
I have fixed many routerboards that appeared bricked by just replacing all capacitors...

xbliss · Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:07 pm

Asking some of the HapLite folks on the HapLite thread..

we don't have any beamforming products yet.
And after 6 years still the same ...

Based on this and this Why people pair UBNT APs with MikroTik routers? Then..

..The following thought process for of mine are valid courses of action/ thought towards keeping Mktk for Routing but look elsewhere for Wireless.
Cheap APs & Routers to pair w low end Mikrotik hAPlite (N) Home/ SOHO setup for Wireless AC? (Non ubiquiti etc)

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