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Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:56 pm

We are releasing a test version of an exciting new feature - Cloud Hosted Router (CHR).

It is a Virtual Machine image of RouterOS that has full functionality of RouterOS without any kind of conventional RouterOS license, with the limitation of 1Mbit per interface, in future, we will offer unlimited speed with a paid subscription. This allows you to use RouterOS in training classes, for testing, for experimentation or any other purpose, without the need for 24h trial or Demo license.

We provide a generic (RAW) format IMG, VMDK file for VMWare, VDI for VirtualBox and VHDX for Hyper-V. These are ready to use virtual disk images (add as a virtual hard drive to your VM). These are NOT templates for importing.

qemu commands for converting images (if you need to convert to another format)

RAW to VMware:
qemu-img convert -f raw -O vmdk chr-6.31rc9.img chr-6.31rc9.vmdk
RAW to VirtualBox:
qemu-img convert -f raw -O vdi chr-6.31rc9.img chr-6.31rc9.vdi
See below for steps how to run this new system.

If you need a bigger virtual hdd (currently 128Mb), resize the image before first run
qemu-img resize -f raw chr-6.31rc9.img +1G
This will increase the disk by 1GB

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VMware Player (Free): https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#d ... player/7_0
VirtualBox (Free): https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Instructions for VMware:
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IMPORTANT STEP, change CPU setting to KVM:
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:08 pm

excellent
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:14 pm

Pretty cool.I can drop a proposed OSPF/BGP site for the boss man on his laptop for little/no charge :D


Is there any virtualizing software that you can pass frames over 1500 bytes for MPLS labs/testing ? I think last time I tested them VBox and VMWare Workstation were still a no go zone.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:21 pm

Is there any difference (besides licensing) compared to the standard Mikrotik x86 releases which already work on VMware?
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:22 pm

This will have Fastpath and 64bit support, also custom drivers and other optimisations.
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:23 pm

Can't connect with winbox.

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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:23 pm

Nice!

Is vmxnet3 (10gbit) supported?
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:38 pm

Can't connect with winbox.

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That is most likely a VM software config issue. Depends on how you set up your virtual NIC and how it is connected to the host PC.

VirtualBox has NAT by default, configure it to use Bridge or reconfigure your network accordingly
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:57 pm

Normis could you confirm as per Chaos's question whether this will support VMXNet3 or not ?
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:10 pm

Why call it "Cloud Hosted"? Is there the ability to actually have a custom RouterOS installation hosted on a general hosting provider (NOT a specialized provider that would let you run custom VMs...)?

Have you guys (at MikroTik) considered maybe offering such a service (preferably one which, just like this VM, has full functionality, but with rate limits). If you do, I for one would certainly end up using it, as right now, to test my API client, I need to set up a VM on my PC, and no 3rd party CI service allows me to do the same with their infrastructure.

As it currently stands, this "Cloud Hosted Router" is really more like "RouterOS VM Edition".
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:21 pm

As it currently stands, this "Cloud Hosted Router" is really more like "RouterOS VM Edition".
Well yes, for now :)
Support for Amazon or other services is planned.
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:37 pm

Nice!

Is vmxnet3 (10gbit) supported?
Not in this image, but planned
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:50 pm

Can't connect with winbox.

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That is most likely a VM software config issue. Depends on how you set up your virtual NIC and how it is connected to the host PC.

VirtualBox has NAT by default, configure it to use Bridge or reconfigure your network accordingly
Nope, it seems that you actually provide a broken .vdi image, .vmdk image on the same configuration works well.

One more difference between .vdi and .vmdk:
.vdi — simply starts
.vmdk — self installs, generates keys then starts
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:55 pm

OK, thanks, will investigate.

Everybody else - VirtualBox can actually use the VMDK file as well
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:57 pm

So, the vmdk is already a 64bit build.

Cant run it using i386, only runs on a x64 VM.

Very nice!
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:02 pm

Integrated it in my GNS3 instead of my current images, completely smooth and works very nicely.
Getting MikroTik working in GNS3 is now a 3-click process.

I am EXTREMELY happy with this, very nice job MikroTik, major props for this!
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:53 pm

Can't connect with winbox.

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That is most likely a VM software config issue. Depends on how you set up your virtual NIC and how it is connected to the host PC.

VirtualBox has NAT by default, configure it to use Bridge or reconfigure your network accordingly
Nope, it seems that you actually provide a broken .vdi image, .vmdk image on the same configuration works well.

One more difference between .vdi and .vmdk:
.vdi — simply starts
.vmdk — self installs, generates keys then starts

VirtualBox with .vdi works for me.

Try
interface ethernet reset-mac-address
It should get the mac address your virtualbox ethernet card has.
ip dhcp-client renew
I also had to renew my IP address after reseting the MAC address.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:37 pm

Great stuff, MIKROTIK!

Might I recommend a template based approach rather than a raw disk? Maybe in addition to?

An OVA\OVF for vSphere, whatever VB wants, whatever Proxmox\KVM\OpenVZ wants, etc. That way Mikrotik can exert more QA\QC over the deployment. The right virtual harwardware is used for optimal performance.
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:00 pm

Outstanding! Thank you! This will allow me to develop scripts without having to test them on real boxes.
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:53 pm

Please integrate virtio drivers.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:27 pm

Anyone else with network problems on Hyper-V? I can't communicate with the router (ping, mac ping, winbox)
IP is manually assigned. Hyper-V guest is 1 generation with legacy network adapter.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:35 am

I am in disbelief, my emails to your sales department didn't fall on deaf ears after all ;)

This is a definite move in the right direction. Great work Mikrotik!

Hopefully this is licensed per RouterOS VM, per month. This will make it easy for cloud providers to spool up Routers for new clients without having to worry about committing to an entire years licence fee. It will also make it easy for short term contracts where you just need a router for 3 months, or for Proof of Concepts. And it will deliver a recurring revenue stream to Mikrotik to pay for new features !
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:51 am

I have been hosting cloud hosted ROS since 2010. Paid for the licenses L4&L5 but, is it possible to upgrade to CHR?
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:41 am

I have been hosting cloud hosted ROS since 2010. Paid for the licenses L4&L5 but, is it possible to upgrade to CHR?
Currently we only offer the 1Mbit limited version, if you don't need higher sped, just use this image. In future we will offer subscriptions, but I don't think there will be any migration between old license and new.
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:04 am

Will Hyper-V be properly supported? Both Client and Server versions would be handy...
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:24 pm

is possible to install user-manager package?
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:27 pm

It's a RouterOS device, just virtual. Install any package you want
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:34 pm

Will there be a one time purchase option or will this just be a subscription based model ?

Yey for custom drivers though :)
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:35 pm

We are planning a one time payment option as well.
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:50 pm

Such good news this!!!
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:53 pm

VirtIO drivers (http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Virtio) not supported? big omission.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:56 pm

Like I already said, VIRTIO is coming
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:29 pm

VirtIO disk driver absent, but VirtIO network driver works at first sight.
bravo! very comfortable in this environment to do the lab\test network.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:49 pm

Great!
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:23 pm

Perfect!!!
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:59 am

Hello,

This is great! Nice idea!

When I try to upgrade to most recent version (6.30.2) it resets the free license to a 24 hours license. Here are some screenshots.

Are we going to be able to upgrade this RouterOS VMs?

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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:11 am

Apparently v6.30.2 does not have the new code to support the new licensing for the CHR.

I believe upgrades will work just fine after 6.31 is released.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:49 am

6.30.x is older than 6.31

6.30.x only includes fixes, not new features, such as this
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:31 am

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I try to upgrade to 6.31.rc10 and error was: license does not permit to upgrade routeros.x86-6.31.rc10

I was upgrading via system/packages/upgrade
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:52 pm

6.30.x is older than 6.31

6.30.x only includes fixes, not new features, such as this
Hello Normis,

You are right. I choose current version from the upgrade menu.

However, if you try to upgrade to the release candidate, then the actual license won’t let you.

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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:55 pm

Yes, it is a bug, current CHR release doesn't allow upgrades. Well, it is a test after all, we will make a fixed image soon.
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:44 pm

Will this work on XenServer 6.5? I imported the vmdk, gave it 512Mb RAM and got the following error while booting.

Booting Kernel Failed: Invalid argument

Is there something special I need to do?
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:02 pm

I have the same problem with v6.x on XenServer, regardless of version.
v5.26 works just fine on XenServer.

Apparently XenServer support was broken in v6.x and is still broken to this day :(
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:06 pm

On XEN server 6.5 (free edition) I installed ROS 6.29.1 without any problems.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:43 pm

+1

XEN server 6.5 (free edition) works much better and faster
xen have alot to offer and free
On I installed ROS 6.29.1 without any problems.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:44 pm

but did anyone from you try the CHR image on Xen ?
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:10 pm

pls add a link to ( CHR image on Xen )


but did anyone from you try the?
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:53 pm

XenServer 6.5 can import the VMDK image of CHR that Normis posted. But I got the kernel failed error above.

I installed the x86 6.30.1 on XenServer but got high cpu usage whenever there was 10Mb of ethernet traffic. You can see here http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=98882
You have to set veridian=false on the Xenserver to make it work. Info here http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=698862


I also tried setting veridian=false on the CHR VM that I setup, but the result was the same.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:11 pm

Very nice.

I already use routerOS x86 on a virtual machine with kvm/virtualmin.
Virtual routerOS is a good firewall/router for virtual machines.
 
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Re: Cloud Hosted Router

Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:40 am

Will there be optional CHR-only packages available for this flavor of RouterOS? For example, you've mentioned driver support for different virtualisation systems interfaces will be added, but would it be worthwhile that these be additional packages to be installed only as needed, as well as things like VM-tools etc.. ?

Furthermore, does MT have any plans to work with providers like VMware and Amazon to allow MikroTik routers to be a click-to-deploy option for new users? IE: Putting CHR in the VMware Virtual Appliance Marketplace
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