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RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:17 pm
by InoX

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:06 pm
by chechito
omg what a good idea!!!

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:14 pm
by pukkita
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Great device!!! Kudos to Mikrotik for that!!!!

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:44 pm
by honzam
Nice idea, but why only 3 (1800 MHz) and 7 (2600 MHz) LTE FDD bands ?
You plan more models?
800 and 900Mhz?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:10 pm
by taduikis
If it strengthens our competitors (that use LTE) it's not that great news at all :?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:46 pm
by uldis
current product only supports the Band 3 and 7.
We are constantly working on new products.
You want Band 8 (900mhz) and Band 20 (800mhz) support in future?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:11 pm
by chechito
current product only supports the Band 3 and 7.
We are constantly working on new products.
You want Band 8 (900mhz) and Band 20 (800mhz) support in future?

in my country LTE currently operates on band 4 and 7, the worst data service provider (CLARO) operates on band 7 and Tigo (Une-EPM) but the later dont have full nationwide coverage on band 7

please add support to band 4

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:27 pm
by Karvanoppa
Yeah i really recommended to add that band 20. This products move our Mikrotik sells to new level ;)

Thanks

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:46 pm
by Toigoweb
+1 for band 20 (800mhz) support and plan for 900 mhz.

this product is ideal for a various scenario link ipcam, weather station, industrial control... alarm etcc...

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:46 am
by kiler129
It's the best idea I've seen in recent products from many network vendors.
I personally like to see band 1 at least. It'll be nice to also see 20 & 38.

@uldis: I'm guessing everything is about licensing? For comparison iPhone 6s supports following bands:
1 (2100 MHz)
2 (1900 MHz)
3 (1800 MHz)
4 (AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2600 MHz)
8 (900 MHz)
12 (700 MHz)
13 (700c MHz)
17 (700b MHz)
18 (800 MHz)
19 (800 MHz)
20 (800 DD)
25 (1900 MHz)
26 (800 MHz)
27 (800 MHz)
28 (700 APT MHz)
29 (700 de MHz)
30 (2300 MHz)
38 (TD 2600)
39 (TD 1900)
40 (TD 2300)
41 (TD 2500)
...but hey, they have A LOT of money for licenses ;<

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:03 am
by doush
Why only FDD and not TDD ?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:53 pm
by BrJ
+1 for 800MHz version. 2G and 3G compatibility would be nice. Ideal for backup and remote areas.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:36 am
by DmitryAVET
Ukraine dont have network 4G LTE.

Now we have expansion of 3G network.
Old networks 2G work at 900/1800 MHz.
New 3G networks work at 1900/2100 MHz.

Would be nice to add support 3G in SXT for Ukraine.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:40 am
by normis
Ukraine dont have network 4G LTE.

Now we have expansion of 3G network.
Old networks 2G work at 900/1800 MHz.
New 3G networks work at 1900/2100 MHz.

Would be nice to add support 3G in SXT for Ukraine.
We already have many 3G solutions. Choose the other product in stead :) Even regular SXT supports USB + 3G modem

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:06 pm
by DmitryAVET
Ukraine dont have network 4G LTE.

Now we have expansion of 3G network.
Old networks 2G work at 900/1800 MHz.
New 3G networks work at 1900/2100 MHz.

Would be nice to add support 3G in SXT for Ukraine.
We already have many 3G solutions. Choose the other product in stead :) Even regular SXT supports USB + 3G modem
Normis, thanks for fast answer!

USB? you joke? )

SXT with 3G support would be great solution for many peoples in UA. Trust me)

Some people use old ADSL for access to internet. Especially in private sector, because dont have alternative solution. Classic USB-modem can't give good speed Downlink/Uplink. Additionally, most often, you need to "hand made" or "modding".

Besides USB-modem, you need router with USB-port. SXT 3G can be solution "all in one", simple plug and play.

Simply think over it.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:07 pm
by normis
We also have miniPCI-e products that support 3G modems, see RouterBOARD.com :)
NetMetal, BaseBox etc.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:16 pm
by DmitryAVET
We also have miniPCI-e products that support 3G modems, see RouterBOARD.com :)
NetMetal, BaseBox etc.
This solutions is noncompetitive for home use.
STX with support 2G/3G/4G can give you new big market area.

Without money spending, you can create vote.

3G market in UA develops in a geometrical progression. And is still clean, with no solution for home use.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:34 pm
by normis
We are working on other products that you will like. This one is for a specific market and is not advertised as a solution for everyone.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:15 am
by sveno
In Estonia 3 and 7 are used for dense population areas. Recently Tele2 also added band 1 (2100).
In rural areas (even just outside Tallinn!) band 20(800) is most popular. For example 10-15km from Tallinn centre Tele2 and Elisa often only have band 20 in use.
So I cannot use SXT LTE here. Very little use in cities due to strong LTE signal. No use outside cities because band mismatch.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:00 pm
by Karvanoppa
Hi,
I just wanna thanks Mikrotik with this new product. This is my test results on band3.

Operator station distance is about 1km and have just same trees on my way.

Interface info
Image

SINR is so stable just about +-2

I added SXT shield to it but not tested without it.

http://snag.gy/KTit6.jpg
http://snag.gy/2e63Y.jpg
And installation is not my best. Here is too freezing now -20c :-?

http://snag.gy/8HdnS.jpg
http://snag.gy/i0jTM.jpg
http://snag.gy/0RBTz.jpg

Speedtest:
Image

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:06 am
by normis
I am glad to hear about your good results.

Did you guys see the live video that is powered by the SXT LTE? It is powered by solar, and comes from the middle of a forest: http://dabasdati.lv/en/kameras2015 (white tailed eagle camera)

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:44 am
by kiler129
Did you guys see the live video that is powered by the SXT LTE? It is powered by solar, and comes from the middle of a forest: http://dabasdati.lv/en/kameras2015 (white tailed eagle camera)
You're crazy :)

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:27 pm
by Karvanoppa
I am glad to hear about your good results.

Did you guys see the live video that is powered by the SXT LTE? It is powered by solar, and comes from the middle of a forest: http://dabasdati.lv/en/kameras2015 (white tailed eagle camera)
Very nice.. any idea what is effective range in kilometres for this SXT LTE?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:02 pm
by Karvanoppa
Ok, now i got first crash with this. Yesterday we have here -25 celsius. First i downloaded from msdn windows image ~3Gb with full speed ~8,5Mt/s some minutes after that LTE modem just disconnected. Sorry in log dont have nothing. Not have lte log on.
After i reboot lte interface everythings works fine.

Now i have lte logging on mayby next time i have some data what happened.

This might be problem from isp, but just wanna share my test results...

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:33 pm
by kristaps
Nice to hear that. If you Have any supouts with issues please send to support@mikrotik.com,

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:41 pm
by Karvanoppa
Nice to hear that. If you Have any supouts with issues please send to support@mikrotik.com,
Now i have sended this support file.

Thanks

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:04 pm
by keisim
@Karvanoppa, I had the same problem. Do you use default-configuration script? If so, try to reset configuration and configure SXT LTE manually. Eventually use stable version 6.32.3. After reset mine is working fine till 3,5 day... and counting ;) There are some bugs in default-configuration script in v6.33.3, v6.33.5, v6.34rc36. Check this topic for details: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=103880.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:17 am
by Karvanoppa
@keisim, Thanks for answer
I'm using 6.33.3 just wanna first search that problem in log.

Last night it again dropped but debug log is too long and not seen what happened :(

Uptime for this device is now 15day and now second time LTE interface dropped.

I have second SXT LTE in different town with different ISP and that is worked now 19day with 6.33.3 version without any of problems. This is in hall (Temperature seems to be 38C).

Just thinking this whole problem might be when ISP changed external ip (dhcp lease time ended) and SXT LTE don't know how to change it. That second SXT LTE what i have on customer have static IP and might be working that why. But let see when this dropped again.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:31 pm
by Karvanoppa
Ooh now it was fast...

There is log when it drop connection
http://pastebin.com/EH6FKd3s

end of log you can see i manual disabled interface (because booting it).

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:32 pm
by keisim
Do you see any networks in LTE Interface / LTE Scanner window?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:00 pm
by Karvanoppa
No, you can't scan with LTE interface.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:04 pm
by ZeroByte
Will this work with Sprint in the US?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:31 am
by kiler129
Will this work with Sprint in the US?
Nope, Sprint uses 25, 26 and 41 FDD in USA while RBSXT LTE is 3 & 7 FDD only.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:03 am
by mhoungbo
I found that it's impossible to send SMS via the lte interface !

it's a big restriction for me ! it's not possible to add this support ?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:12 pm
by normis
I found that it's impossible to send SMS via the lte interface !

it's a big restriction for me ! it's not possible to add this support ?
SXT LTE only supports LTE data. There is no GSM or 3G support.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:38 pm
by mhoungbo
I found that it's impossible to send SMS via the lte interface !

it's a big restriction for me ! it's not possible to add this support ?
SXT LTE only supports LTE data. There is no GSM or 3G support.

HUAWEI LTE E5573 support only lte data, but it's offer support of SMS to activate data plan.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:10 pm
by kiler129
SXT LTE only supports LTE data. There is no GSM or 3G support.
You should definitely support SMS & USSD - most of the pre-paid data plans require it.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:28 pm
by WirelessRudy
Maybe a stupid question;
Can these SXT LTE's work 1 on 1 as a transparent ethernet bridge (1x AP-bridge, other in station-bridge)?
Can they just work without a providers' sim in it?

Might be an idea to create small wireless bridge in a frequency nobody uses here and stay out of the crowded wifi spectrum?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:51 pm
by kiler129
Unfortunately not - you cannot make you own network like using WiFi.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:54 pm
by WirelessRudy
Unfortunately not - you cannot make you own network like using WiFi.
Is that because the SXT-LTE has no L4 or because it always needs a simm inside?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:52 pm
by InoX
You don't need L4 for bridge, so it might be the sim.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:03 pm
by WirelessRudy
You don't need L4 for bridge, so it might be the sim.
hmm, good remark.
I ordered one of these but will only arrive next week so I'll guess can find out how they work myself.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:11 pm
by WirelessRudy
Unfortunately not - you cannot make you own network like using WiFi.
Did you try it? Why not? Does this has to do with the protocol? Or radio simply can't work in AP mode? Or simm is needed to get connected to AP and without simm radio is not working?
As you see, I'm not satisfied with a simple anwer! :D :D

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:52 pm
by InoX
it might be the sim.
This looks like an assumption...

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:00 pm
by kiler129
First of all GSM uses reserved frequencies all over the world - you can't just randomly throw equipment transmitting on these. Before you point me to the transmitter in cellphone you should read about TDMA.
In WiFi world clients equipment is fairly similar (except for antennas) to one used on the ISP side. In GSM situation is a lot more complicated - BTSes are hugely complicated and specialized equipment while endpoints like our phones are dare simple transceivers.

Speaking about the SIMcard - it's not required for network communication, it's only used authentication & authorization. Theoretically you could configure BTS to work without them, since in some (most?) countries you could actually dial 911/112 without SIM present. I believe that in USA FCC requires every device, capable of making voice calls, to be able to connect you to 911.


So no, you can't use RBSXT LTE as PtP system.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:44 am
by vlymar
Добрый день, подскажите что делаю не так, оператор Мегафон 4G, г. Москва. Вставил СИМ карту, но у меня нет выбора Band: 7, вкладка не активна, LTE1 находится в постоянном поиске, вот скрин:
sim карту проверил рабочая.

Good afternoon, tell me what I'm doing wrong, Megafon 4G operator in Moscow. Inserted SIM card, but I have no choice Band: 7, the tab is not active, LTE1 is always looking for, here is a screen:
sim card tested working.

Image

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:30 pm
by jnygard
Why is it not possible to bridge the LTE and ethernet port together? Now there is one additional NAT in the network setup because of this...

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:15 am
by chechito
Why is it not possible to bridge the LTE and ethernet port together? Now there is one additional NAT in the network setup because of this...

i think is normal, network assign you a valid address automatically, then you have to nat all your traffic using that address

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:38 pm
by TIQA
i've noticed that sometimes there's graphing data missing after restarts or power cuts. nothing like that is happening with other devices.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:22 pm
by InoX
Store on Disk...

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:25 pm
by TIQA
ether1 is always ok, but lte port is one losing data.

also i notice very long plml search and losing connection even if it s very good.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 2:59 pm
by pedro901
Hi, I'm quite a newbie with Mikrotik. Little intimidated.

I got a SXT LTE working but I'm getting crappy speed (1 - 2 Mbps). I actually get better results with the cheap router that the ISP provided with a weaker signal.

I'm really not sure where to start to make my speed better. I have full bars on the STX LTE router.

Where should I start?

Thanks

Rene

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:26 pm
by radok
+1 for band 20 (800), available in FW upgrade or need new HW?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:34 pm
by istefanic
I would say +1 for band 20 (800)
that's used in many countries across Europe

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:51 pm
by pcourtney
please please add Band 20 ( 800MHz ) to the SXT LTE line, it is very popular in the UK and Europe !

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:06 pm
by DBob
please please add Band 20 ( 800MHz ) to the SXT LTE line, it is very popular in the UK and Europe !
+1.
Please.

The more band you add, the higher the licensing will be for the devices, which have to be reflected in the price as well. We all know that.
However, missing widely accepted and used bands, will have a huge impact on the number of users, whom could use the device. And such limitation will be reflected on the sales volumes as well.

For example, the SXT LTE is quite useless in Hungary. This device is a great, when you have an area, where you've got no wired / very limited internet at all. You point this device to the nearest tower (which may be 5-10 kilometers away), and you've got your internet, just as mentioned by Mikrotik itself.
However, in these areas B20 is used in Hungary. The frequencies which are supported in SXT LTE are only used in high density, urban areas. But there you won't need a high sensitive SXT type device, to reach the nearest LTE transmitter.

I'm waiting for the wAP LTE, which was presented during last year at the MUM in Hungary. This device would perfectly fit in urban areas as well, event without B20 (but it would be nicer with B20, of course)

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:18 pm
by Larsa
please please add Band 20 ( 800MHz ) to the SXT LTE line, it is very popular in the UK and Europe !
+1.
Please.

The more band you add, the higher the licensing will be for the devices, which have to be reflected in the price as well. We all know that.
However, missing widely accepted and used bands, will have a huge impact on the number of users, whom could use the device. And such limitation will be reflected on the sales volumes as well.

For example, the SXT LTE is quite useless in Hungary. This device is a great, when you have an area, where you've got no wired / very limited internet at all. You point this device to the nearest tower (which may be 5-10 kilometers away), and you've got your internet, just as mentioned by Mikrotik itself.
However, in these areas B20 is used in Hungary. The frequencies which are supported in SXT LTE are only used in high density, urban areas. But there you won't need a high sensitive SXT type device, to reach the nearest LTE transmitter.

I'm waiting for the wAP LTE, which was presented during last year at the MUM in Hungary. This device would perfectly fit in urban areas as well, event without B20 (but it would be nicer with B20, of course)
Well, why not sell the LTE modules separately? That would definitely solve the problems regarding regional needs and what bands that are available...

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:28 am
by VitalyV
SXT LTE at a temperature of -20 degrees Celsius does not start LTE interface. Maybe someone found a solution?

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:24 pm
by SalvatoreS
Hi ... I have a SXT LTE and in a certain mobile operator here in Brazil, the equipment does not connect. We already made sure that it operates LTE in band 7, so the equipment is compatible. However, for the internet to work, it is necessary that the connection is roaming and I can not find a way to activate roaming.

Could someone give some hint or solution?

PS: We have tested chips from other operators and the equipment works perfectly.

Re: RBSXT LTE

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:00 pm
by CZFan
I am glad to hear about your good results.

Did you guys see the live video that is powered by the SXT LTE? It is powered by solar, and comes from the middle of a forest: http://dabasdati.lv/en/kameras2015 (white tailed eagle camera)
Awesome, just watched it now, looks like Eagle is laying on eggs at the moment