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SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:54 pm

Hello,

I'm very impressed about the versatile possibilities of RouterOS. So, I'm searching a new SOHO-Router. These are the facts:
  • WAN (DOCSIS) with 150/10 Mbit, router must handle up to 400/100 Mbit
  • 25 Clients
  • VPN through IPSec or openVPN
The router will be a typical SOHO-router, so it has to NAT the traffic through a WAN-port. A packet filter is also a requirement and should support port forwarding to certain clients. I guess, that's not a big deal. But the router shouldn't be the bottleneck of the setup.

I've read several times now, that the hEX should be able to handle my actual internet connection with 150 Mbit downstream and 10 Mbit upstream. But I don't want to buy a new router in 2 oder 3 years, when the connection will eventually be at least twice as fast.
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:06 pm

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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:34 pm

I think based on the cost and constant improvement on networking hardware. In a few years you will likely want to replace it to obtain the benefit of the latest connectivity options. For the small cost of the RB750Gr2, would it really matter to replace it in a few years.

You get what you pay for, and boards like the RB493G will provide you with some decent horse power as well as different types of connectivity options. The RB750Gr2 has a 720Mhz processor which is quite high in relation to other RouterBoards. If you really need to get more power and try future proof yourself as the expense of increase costs, you can look at some of the CloudCore series router with SFP support.
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:52 pm

Well, for the money I have to spend for the RB850Gx2 including case and power suply I almost can get a RB3011. Software might be not perfect yet, but will be improved certainly. I guess, this device will have enogh power for my purposes. But, RB850Gx2 is a very interesting, small sized router, though I can't estimate it's lack of fast path.

Tbh, the RB750Gr2 is absolutely short-listed.

This decision is not easy... ;)
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:35 pm

http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-PC

any device inferior to a CCR1009 can fall short if you deploy a complex configuration
 
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:33 pm

Well, yes. This Router would leave nothing to be desired but is too much for my purposes, I guess.
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:03 pm

Well, yes. This Router would leave nothing to be desired but is too much for my purposes, I guess.

as i understood we are talking about a half of a gigabit wan connection, keep in mind easily in 1 or 2 years maybe 1 full gigabit

of course with all respect, if the budget is the problem maybe you have to consider wait until RB3011 is more mature, looks a very promising device for the price, but is too fresh and have certain issues because is a device with a new architecture in mikrotik ecosystem

http://routerboard.com/RB3011UiAS-RM

taking in count the associated cost of the RB850gx2:
board + case + power supply
129+19+9= 157 US

vs

179US the RB3011

rb850gx2 cost only 22 US less than RB3011 but at least in numbers rb3011 has 50% more performance than rb850gx2 and you get 5 additional gigabit ports, 1 sfp port, oled touch screen, rackmount case, passive poe output on eth10, usb port, 2x the ram.
 
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:14 pm

Gb-WAN will be an option in several years, but not in the next 1-2. Not for me.

Budget is actually not the problem, but I don't want to spend money unnecessarily. I guess, the RB3011 will be adequate for me. There is no need for a 400 EUR router in my environment but it could be the last router in my life. 8)

BTW, the hAP ac could be an alternative to the RB850Gx2, when WIFI is not used.
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:20 pm

Hi,

this is a little update: Almost surely it will be the RB3011, although there are few bugs and the software needs to mature. However, I hope it will do its work somehow (natting LAN through two WAN-interfaces and forwarding 10-15 ports into LAN). VPN will be used later, as soon as acceleration of ipsec is implemented in rOS.

At first, I felt really comfortable with the decision for the CCR1009 as a carefree router, but the longer I thought about it the more unjustifiable was the prize for the intended purpose.
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:35 am

850Gx2 complete: 110 EUR
RB3011: 130 EUR

+ VAT

- Gx2 now has hardware encryption
- 3011 is missing SFP+ for the power
- 3011 is still evolving

Gx2 wins
 
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:47 am

According to your WAN projections, you should also look at CRS125 if you want to get rid of a switch.
 
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:35 pm

Hmm... RB3011 is the first one with USB 3.0
 
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Re: SOHO-Router for 150-400 Mbit NAT?

Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:37 am

And Mikrotik is working on encryption acceleration for the RB3011.

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