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hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:16 pm

VERY weak wifi ... impossible to work :(
Add POWER please!

I think it should be done like this:
2.4GHz - 1300mW TX power
5GHz - 1600 mW TX power

The higher the frequency, the lower the penetrating power of radio waves
This means that 5GHz in power should be MORE!

Add POWER please! :D
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:00 pm

You Dont know much about Wireless!
Power isnt The right way to get good throughput
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:29 pm

You Dont know much about Wireless!
Power isnt The right way to get good throughput
Ha.. ha.. ha... :)
RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT - for children ... :) - very very weak

I bought a SXT 2 (RBSXTG-2HnD) 2x2 MIMO 10dbi antenna antenna with 1600mW and was very pleased.
RBSXTG-2HnD - installed INSIDE at home. The signal is very very good everywhere! Throughput - great!
RBSXTG-2HnD - really works! RBSXTG-2HnD is ideally powerful for work inside the building.

Wireless systems are great products.
Power - this is one way to achieve excellent performance!

What do you recommend for 5Hz? Powerful...
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:30 am

mistry is right. high output power is not something to be proud of. better have good antenna and high sensitivity card. installing an amplifier will just amplify noise. also, your home devices will be able to "see" your AP, but will not be able to talk back to it.

high power is not something that is needed in a home AP!
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:22 am

mistry is right. high output power is not something to be proud of. better have good antenna and high sensitivity card. installing an amplifier will just amplify noise. also, your home devices will be able to "see" your AP, but will not be able to talk back to it.

high power is not something that is needed in a home AP!
I both agree and disagree with you, i also find hAP wifi signal strength ridiculous, placing on same spot as Mikrotik an random ASUS AC router(3x 5 dBi antenas) and on place of edge of signal where my phone gets barely 1mbit with HAP AC, and with Asus i get around 20mbit stable!(Same spot, same chan, no other networks)

In this case hAP AC is bottleneck when it comes to signal, its not problem with my phone/laptop if it will be able to "talk" back to AP, its the AP that cant talk to my phone, even freaking laptop has larger antennas(builtin into screen edges) than hAP AC..
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:25 am

In this case hAP AC is bottleneck when it comes to signal, its not problem with my phone/laptop if it will be able to "talk" back to AP, its the AP that cant talk to my phone, even freaking laptop has larger antennas(builtin into screen edges) than hAP AC..
hAP ac has a very strong amplifier and good antennas. Don't you mean the hAP lite or some other small device?
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:26 am

In this case hAP AC is bottleneck when it comes to signal, its not problem with my phone/laptop if it will be able to "talk" back to AP, its the AP that cant talk to my phone, even freaking laptop has larger antennas(builtin into screen edges) than hAP AC..
hAP ac has a very strong amplifier and good antennas. Don't you mean the hAP lite or some other small device?
RouterBOARD 962UiGS-5HacT2HnT
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:30 am

There could be some other issue at play. Either there is a hardware problem with your device, or something else. Usually these devices work perfectly even well outside the home and some distance across the street.
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:49 am

There could be some other issue at play. Either there is a hardware problem with your device, or something else. Usually these devices work perfectly even well outside the home and some distance across the street.
They do work good, and i have several hAP ACs and WAP ACs, and they work perfect on closer ranges, but compared with other routers, any router, brand doesn't matter, even super old Linksys AP(max 56mbit rate )with small 5 dBi will provide internet connectivity where for example hAP wont ..

And im getting more and more complaints from users that they have signal problems where they used to have decent signal, than its hard to explain for me to them how this brand new Mikrotik AP i installed for them is "worse" than super old router and i need to purchase additional router to cover signal where before one covered it.
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:51 am

hAP ac has less than 5dBi antenna, so can't really compare
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:03 am

hAP ac has less than 5dBi antenna, so can't really compare
Thats the point of this thread i guess, hope MT reconsidered and gives us models like hAP AC with external antennas and just make everyone happy.
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:09 am

hAP ac has less than 5dBi antenna, so can't really compare
Thats the point of this thread i guess, hope MT reconsidered and gives us models like hAP AC with external antennas and just make everyone happy.
The original post says nothing about antenna. The OP asks to have more transmit power in the wifi amplifier. My answer was that this is not a good idea. A stronger antenna is a much better option. This is in my first response actually.
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:12 am

hAP ac has less than 5dBi antenna, so can't really compare
Thats the point of this thread i guess, hope MT reconsidered and gives us models like hAP AC with external antennas and just make everyone happy.
The original post says nothing about antenna. The OP asks to have more transmit power in the wifi amplifier. My answer was that this is not a good idea. A stronger antenna is a much better option. This is in my first response actually.
Yea, i ment to correct original poster, better antenna on hAP AC would be better option than raising TX, sorry for my bad use of English :)
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:57 pm

mistry is right. high output power is not something to be proud of. better have good antenna and high sensitivity card. installing an amplifier will just amplify noise. also, your home devices will be able to "see" your AP, but will not be able to talk back to it.

high power is not something that is needed in a home AP!
HAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - in this implementation, no one will buy, only spoil your reputation ... : (

It should be added to RB962UiGS-5HacT2HTN:
1. Three external omni-directional dual-band antennas of at least 8dBi
2. Increase the transmitter power of 2.4GHz to at least 1000mW (as it was in RB951G-2HnD - https://routerboard.com/RB951G-2Hnd) (better 1300mW)
3. Increase the power of the transmitter 5GHz at least to 1300mW (better 1600mW) - 5Hz is very bad "punching" the walls...

The antenna does not amplify the signal, but only distributes (focuses) the already generated power. If I want to increase the "penetration" of walls, I will simply have to increase the transmitter power. And of course I'll put an antenna with a large gain factor to distribute the generated power as efficiently as possible.

P.S.
Mikrotik, follow the lives of your customers ... if you want us to buy your products .... :)
https://routerboard.com/RB951G-2Hnd - a very good product thanks in large part to 1000mW !

Finally, make mini pci-e and m.2 for client devices under "windows" (laptops for example)
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:00 am

Hope you live on the opposite side of the world.
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:17 am

zizexiji just choose the appropriate model: https://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/NetMe ... 140529.pdf

It has 1300mW and an extra miniPCIe slot for the other band card:
RB922UAGS-5HPacT-NM

and you can have any antenna you want.

You want everything in one product. That is not possible. Small size, cheap price, best power. You can only choose two of these.
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:57 am

Will anyone share the hAP AC temperature and the respecting room temperature. Mine is at 51-60c with 3% cpu use at 36c room temperature.
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:57 am

Will anyone share the hAP AC temperature and the respecting room temperature. Mine is at 51-60c with 3% cpu use at 36c room temperature.
It is OK, it will work fine even with CPU at more than 70C
 
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Re: hAP ac (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) - very weak TX power

Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:02 pm

Will anyone share the hAP AC temperature and the respecting room temperature. Mine is at 51-60c with 3% cpu use at 36c room temperature.
It is OK, it will work fine even with CPU at more than 70C
Thank you. Since its constantly hovering at 60c. I turned off the SFP and poe out at ether 5. Since then it is reduced to 50-53c . Thank you for the confirmation :D

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