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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:24 am

Going to switch my RB750Gr3 + 3rd party AC AP with this device.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:29 am

Does anyone know if Mikrotik supports band steering or broadcast suppression on their wireless products? I cannot find references on the wiki.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:37 pm

Going to switch my RB750Gr3 + 3rd party AC AP with this device.
That's my intention too. The price, features and performance are unbeatable. Just microSD slot is missing for dude database.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:26 pm

And still no replacement is announced for devices of 2011 series in desktop case. ARM CPU in hap ac2 seems to be more than capable.
But we still see 2011 as only soho device with 10 ports and wi-fi built in.
Normis, talk to your buddies in development department. :)
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:56 am

Going to switch my RB750Gr3 + 3rd party AC AP with this device.
Still will be dealbreaker if you replace from some UBNT AP i suppose. Still will cover much smaller space from UAPs.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:40 am

Going to switch my RB750Gr3 + 3rd party AC AP with this device.
Still will be dealbreaker if you replace from some UBNT AP i suppose. Still will cover much smaller space from UAPs.
This claim is meaningless without any supporting evidence or documentation. On paper the Mikrotik specifications are better than the equivalent Ubiquiti. They have higher transmit power (although lower is often used for commercial deployments) and they list better receiver sensitivity than a competing Cisco AP. Ubiquiti doesn't publish that information.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:04 am

New ARM hardware with wifi fills me with hope we'll see an RB3011 with wifi and a desktop case, but it seems very unlikely.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:51 pm

I personally hope that the new CCR's are based on Cavium Octeon TX and TX2.
2x Cavium ThunderX_NT in next gen router with 2x 48 cores would be interesting: https://cavium.com/pdfFiles/ThunderX_NT_PB_Rev1.pdf?x=2
I cannot find pricing Information in those.
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:12 pm

Going to switch my RB750Gr3 + 3rd party AC AP with this device.
Still will be dealbreaker if you replace from some UBNT AP i suppose. Still will cover much smaller space from UAPs.
This claim is meaningless without any supporting evidence or documentation. On paper the Mikrotik specifications are better than the equivalent Ubiquiti. They have higher transmit power (although lower is often used for commercial deployments) and they list better receiver sensitivity than a competing Cisco AP. Ubiquiti doesn't publish that information.
OK let discuss like this. I previously used HAP AC and Rb951G-2hnd and RB951Ui-2hnd and RB2011UiAS-2HnD and still signal was week comparing with UAP AC PRO that using now for example. On paper maybe Mikrotik is better, but fact telling me that maybe Mikrotik is better in OpenSpace, and UAP is better in homes with many walls and in closed space. My current setup is RB750Gr3 + UAP AC PRO and im happy with it.


New ARM hardware with wifi fills me with hope we'll see an RB3011 with wifi and a desktop case, but it seems very unlikely.
They will post ARM based 3011 soon i suppose. Its been too long time until 2011 was presented.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:41 pm

Going to switch my RB750Gr3 + 3rd party AC AP with this device.
Still will be dealbreaker if you replace from some UBNT AP i suppose. Still will cover much smaller space from UAPs.
This claim is meaningless without any supporting evidence or documentation. On paper the Mikrotik specifications are better than the equivalent Ubiquiti. They have higher transmit power (although lower is often used for commercial deployments) and they list better receiver sensitivity than a competing Cisco AP. Ubiquiti doesn't publish that information.
OK let discuss like this. I previously used HAP AC and Rb951G-2hnd and RB951Ui-2hnd and RB2011UiAS-2HnD and still signal was week comparing with UAP AC PRO that using now for example. On paper maybe Mikrotik is better, but fact telling me that maybe Mikrotik is better in OpenSpace, and UAP is better in homes with many walls and in closed space. My current setup is RB750Gr3 + UAP AC PRO and im happy with it.
I'm not an engineer but it appears that the antenna on the UAP-AC-PRO is superior to the Rb951G-2hnd and RB2011UiAS-2HnD, as listed in the internal photos section for all three models on fccid.io. Let's hope the hAP ac² has a new antenna design.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:47 pm

Dont expect too much. Will be sumilar like HAP AC.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:02 am

Yeah the antenna in the UAP-AC-Pro is very large. The UAP-AC-Pro design maximises antenna gain, which will improve RX sensitivity, which in my opinion is a better approach than using high TX power which just results in the "lighthouse" effect..

The hAP ac2 and cAP ac look to have Mikrotik's traditional antenna designs, so don't expect any miracles.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:43 am

Yeah the antenna in the UAP-AC-Pro is very large. The UAP-AC-Pro design maximises antenna gain, which will improve RX sensitivity, which in my opinion is a better approach than using high TX power which just results in the "lighthouse" effect..

The hAP ac2 and cAP ac look to have Mikrotik's traditional antenna designs, so don't expect any miracles.
100% Agreed !
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:50 am

Yeah the antenna in the UAP-AC-Pro is very large. The UAP-AC-Pro design maximises antenna gain, which will improve RX sensitivity, which in my opinion is a better approach than using high TX power which just results in the "lighthouse" effect..

The hAP ac2 and cAP ac look to have Mikrotik's traditional antenna designs, so don't expect any miracles.
100% Agreed !
I've been reviewing more FCC photos and it appears that only the CAP and WAP models have larger antenna. The other models seem to have small antenna or have fake antenna stenciled into the circuit board. Let's hope the new models have improved antenna designs as it would be worth a small increase in cost. Thanks for your insight.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:37 am

Duplicate message.
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:56 pm

Currently have a pair of hAP ac, looking forward to upgrade to a pair of hAP ac 2 for their faster CPUs.

I'm not using poe and SFP, and 3x3 in hAP ac.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:20 am

Currently have a pair of hAP ac, looking forward to upgrade to a pair of hAP ac 2 for their faster CPUs.

I'm not using poe and SFP, and 3x3 in hAP ac.
For that im telling that HAP AC 2 will be better sollution then HAP AC. Its useless to have 3x3 AC when CPU dont support it.. It maxes on 600 mbps. Also SFP input, only a few users use Optical gpon in their houses. Its useless to put more money on unit that is overprices. New HAP ac 2 will be best option for most of peoples.

https://mikrotik.com/products/compare/R ... acD2HnD-TC
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:15 am

Its useless to have 3x3 AC when there's pretty much no client devices with 3 antennas.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:18 am

Its useless to have 3x3 AC when there's pretty much no client devices with 3 antennas.
You can get PCIe cards or USB adapters with even 4 antennas.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:42 pm

The Wave 2 in the wifi card is probably more valuable than triple chain anyway.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:53 pm

The Wave 2 in the wifi card is probably more valuable than triple chain anyway.
totally agree, y prefer same power 2x2 than 3x3 , you get farther coverage

3x3 its rarely used and make the equipment far more expensive and power hungry
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:54 pm

Currently have a pair of hAP ac, looking forward to upgrade to a pair of hAP ac 2 for their faster CPUs.

I'm not using poe and SFP, and 3x3 in hAP ac.
For that im telling that HAP AC 2 will be better sollution then HAP AC. Its useless to have 3x3 AC when CPU dont support it.. It maxes on 600 mbps. Also SFP input, only a few users use Optical gpon in their houses. Its useless to put more money on unit that is overprices. New HAP ac 2 will be best option for most of peoples.

https://mikrotik.com/products/compare/R ... acD2HnD-TC
totally agreee
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:56 pm

Dont expect too much. Will be sumilar like HAP AC.
yes but hap ac2 cost almost halfs thats a game changer
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:58 pm

+ Wave2 wireless chip (but will it be supported by software?)
What's new in 6.41 (2017-Dec-22 11:55):
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!) wireless - new driver with initial support for 160 and 80+80 MHz channel width; <- this
Just use the whole 5GHz band lol
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:22 pm

!) wireless - new driver with initial support for 160 and 80+80 MHz channel width; <- this
Just use the whole 5GHz band lol
well, for P2P connections it does make sense to me.
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:44 pm

+ Wave2 wireless chip (but will it be supported by software?)
What's new in 6.41 (2017-Dec-22 11:55):
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!) wireless - new driver with initial support for 160 and 80+80 MHz channel width; <- this
Just use the whole 5GHz band lol
fortunately using 160mhz on 5ghz wifi you dont get too far in distance
 
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Re: ARM based new goodies on the horizon

Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:58 pm

3x3 its rarely used and make the equipment far more expensive and power hungry
Well hAP AC2 is announced using 3W more and does not even have an SFP socket which is itself allowed to draw up to 2 Watts.
It is a completely different product category, hence the notable price drop. Triple and quad chains are the high-end of wifi and Mikrotik should continue to propose good products in this segment as well.

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