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LHG 60G disable beam forming

Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:41 pm

Any ideas how to disable beam forming ?
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:51 pm

Explain why do you think you need to do this?
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:54 pm

More accurate align of dish . Slightest movement and signal on 1 km go 65 and then in few seconds as bran forming kicks in signal is 100. I like to align it to 100 without beam forming , once that will be done then I can enable it again . Also on other note installed release candidate yesterday and she never woke up :D have to netinstall to stable version
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:58 pm

Beamforming works great, accurate alignment not really needed at all.
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:12 pm

Ya that didn’t really answered my question :D so we won’t get acces to disable it ?
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:24 pm

beamforming antenna selection and signal display was also no to responsive for us.
i've heard, we have to make some traffic thru link (few hundred megs via btest for example) for much faster response...
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:38 pm

beamforming antenna selection and signal display was also no to responsive for us.
i've heard, we have to make some traffic thru link (few hundred megs via btest for example) for much faster response...
Yeah,
i confirm, we make alignement with no traffic, max signal ~40-60 with btest on link signal goes up to 70~~~80

1.95 km link
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:44 pm

Thanks I ty that tomorrow and see . Pitty boys don’t let us disable it for time been :D
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:47 am

/in w60g set 0 tx-sector=36

locks tx sector, which might be the center sector

have fun !
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:12 pm

Beamforming works great, accurate alignment not really needed at all.
Our experience with aligning the LHG have been anything but easy. We have a mere 300m link that seems to jump around signal wise and predictably drops in the rain. At first we thought it was the mounting bracket moving when we tried to lock down but now think something else is the culprit.
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:26 pm

after setting up second link i know the way :D u just have to practice with them and eventually u will get it right , we have two link for 1 km and both working no problem , doesn't matted if is raining or fogy
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:16 pm

No drops in rain? Our link works great until it rains then its up/down constantly.
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:42 pm

Does beamforming work in both directions (TX/RX) - or is it TX only? I can see many different and changing tx-sector values, but rx-sector seems to be always 96. Or is it just not reported properly?
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:40 pm

Not a single drop even I heavy rain. , we based in Ireland so rain is here twice a week sometimes non stop for couple of weeks and don’t have any problems with it . Best 200€ I ever spend :D
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:13 am

Not a single drop even I heavy rain. , we based in Ireland so rain is here twice a week sometimes non stop for couple of weeks and don’t have any problems with it . Best 200€ I ever spend :D
That's very encouraging. If you have any pro-tips you can share here we'd love to hear them! Thanks for the reply.
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:10 pm

So what's the chance of some decent documentation on this Mikrotik? We're all wasting a lot of time searching the wiki, forums and google :(
Any know exactly do to disable beamforming?

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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:20 pm

So what's the chance of some decent documentation on this Mikrotik? We're all wasting a lot of time searching the wiki, forums and google :(
Any know exactly do to disable beamforming?

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https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:I ... properties

tx-sector is an 8x8 grid of values 0-63 going right-to-left (left-to-right on the LHG), bottom-to-top.
Examples:
On a wAP 60G, tx-sector 0 represents “right 26.6 degrees, down 26.6 degrees.” 62 is “left 19 degrees, up 26.6 degrees”
On a LHG, 15 is “right 1.4 degrees, down 1 degrees.” 58 is “left 0.6 degrees, up 1.4 degrees”
There are four “center” sectors; the four squares in the middle of this grid: 27, 28, 35, 36.
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:29 pm

Thanks so much Dan.
Where did you find the info about the sectors?
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:51 pm

Thanks so much Dan.
Where did you find the info about the sectors?
Trial-and-error; observing the monitor output while moving antennas around.
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:24 pm

What is the purpose in the arrow lights on the side of the LHGG-60ad?
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:02 pm

We have problems with link droping on rain...tested even on beta28, used even align command, but no luck...not stabile at all...signals great (-52/-55 on 1150m link distance).
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:57 pm

frequency?
We have problems with link droping on rain...tested even on beta28, used even align command, but no luck...not stabile at all...signals great (-52/-55 on 1150m link distance).
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:07 pm

frequency?
We have problems with link droping on rain...tested even on beta28, used even align command, but no luck...not stabile at all...signals great (-52/-55 on 1150m link distance).
64800 and 58320 same problems...
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:19 pm

Have you tried 66000?
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:46 pm

How much rain? For my experience 40mm/h of rain is enough to kill a 1000m link
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:56 pm

How much rain? For my experience 40mm/h of rain is enough to kill a 1000m link
No, little rain, maybe 10mm/h
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming  [SOLVED]

Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:16 pm

Not a single drop even I heavy rain. , we based in Ireland so rain is here twice a week sometimes non stop for couple of weeks and don’t have any problems with it . Best 200€ I ever spend :D
what is exact command for disable beam forming ? and do I need it ? I bought 2 x LHG60 Kit and need to install them for 800m, Im afraid if we may drop on heavy rain on 800m.. I just need 500mb not any more.
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:42 pm

Hi , I have two 800 m links and both was setup without beam forming disabled . They working perfect even in heavy rain or fog for that distance . We based in Ireland and last two weeks was mental rain and fog and didnt have one disconnection yet . True is from 700mb it dropped down to 500mb but still solid as rock with low latencies. Kento set them up properly with beam forming enabled is patience . Once they connect together move each side millimetre by millimetre . Ideally is if you run bandwidth test at the same time and keep eye on signal and speed at the same time . I always was setting up A first then go back to B tune it and then back to A tune it and back to B to fine tune . Since that setup it works fine . I remember first link I put up they didn’t want to connect at all :D obiviously I was used to setup only 5ghz links lol . So patience is all you need . By my opinion don’t disable beam forming . Sometimes as less I change in settings is better .
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:19 pm

Hi , I have two 800 m links and both was setup without beam forming disabled . They working perfect even in heavy rain or fog for that distance . We based in Ireland and last two weeks was mental rain and fog and didnt have one disconnection yet . True is from 700mb it dropped down to 500mb but still solid as rock with low latencies. Kento set them up properly with beam forming enabled is patience . Once they connect together move each side millimetre by millimetre . Ideally is if you run bandwidth test at the same time and keep eye on signal and speed at the same time . I always was setting up A first then go back to B tune it and then back to A tune it and back to B to fine tune . Since that setup it works fine . I remember first link I put up they didn’t want to connect at all :D obiviously I was used to setup only 5ghz links lol . So patience is all you need . By my opinion don’t disable beam forming . Sometimes as less I change in settings is better .
Can you share some screen shots of these links with the wireless interface status?
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:50 pm

I didnt do full speed test on them just speed test at home on iPhone :D
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:16 am

Hi , I have two 800 m links and both was setup without beam forming disabled . They working perfect even in heavy rain or fog for that distance . We based in Ireland and last two weeks was mental rain and fog and didnt have one disconnection yet . True is from 700mb it dropped down to 500mb but still solid as rock with low latencies. Kento set them up properly with beam forming enabled is patience . Once they connect together move each side millimetre by millimetre . Ideally is if you run bandwidth test at the same time and keep eye on signal and speed at the same time . I always was setting up A first then go back to B tune it and then back to A tune it and back to B to fine tune . Since that setup it works fine . I remember first link I put up they didn’t want to connect at all :D obiviously I was used to setup only 5ghz links lol . So patience is all you need . By my opinion don’t disable beam forming . Sometimes as less I change in settings is better .
Thank you very much, I will do as you said and we will see :=)
 
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Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming

Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:33 pm

I didnt do full speed test on them just speed test at home on iPhone :D
-70 are not so good signal at 800m distance ?? I'm realy amazed that with this low singnal link are UP on heavy rain. We have links with -55 signal at same distance and on light rain are droping !?

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