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Suggestion: release routers with preinstalled Factory Software from Bugfix release chain

Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:58 pm

Hello,

Suggestion: release routers with preinstalled Factory Software only from Bugfix release chain.
do not ask me why it is necessary.
 
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Re: Suggestion: release routers with preinstalled Factory Software from Bugfix release chain

Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:07 pm

DON'T do this Mikrotik, very bad idea !!!
RC is development and should be treated as beta software !
Running 6.47 (stable) on :
CCR1009-8G-1S (2x ipsec/l2tp site-to-site, ipsec/l2tp roadwarrior, dhcpd, dns), CRS125-24G-1S, RB1100, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT (10pc), RB931-2nD, RB951, RB750GL ,RB2011UAS-RM, RB750Gr3 running dude
 
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Re: Suggestion: release routers with preinstalled Factory Software from Bugfix release chain

Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:11 pm

DON'T do this Mikrotik, very bad idea !!!
RC is development and should be treated as beta software !
...and that is why the suggestion was about the "Bugfix" tree, not "RC"... :)
 
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Re: Suggestion: release routers with preinstalled Factory Software from Bugfix release chain

Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:18 pm

Hmm,
you are right, next time I should put my glasses on before writing ...
Sorry
Running 6.47 (stable) on :
CCR1009-8G-1S (2x ipsec/l2tp site-to-site, ipsec/l2tp roadwarrior, dhcpd, dns), CRS125-24G-1S, RB1100, RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT (10pc), RB931-2nD, RB951, RB750GL ,RB2011UAS-RM, RB750Gr3 running dude
 
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Re: Suggestion: release routers with preinstalled Factory Software from Bugfix release chain

Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:25 pm

The Bugfix release chain may not have the hardware support for the latest models. That is probably why you cannot downgrade lower than the minimum release, as in your other thread.
 
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Re: Suggestion: release routers with preinstalled Factory Software from Bugfix release chain

Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:10 am

The Bugfix release chain may not have the hardware support for the latest models. That is probably why you cannot downgrade lower than the minimum release, as in your other thread.
If I may, I believe that the "mikruser" was suggesting that the proper hardware support be added to whatever is the current "bugfix" chain at the time of that hardware's release, so that if someone bought a hot-off-the-press product, they could elect to run "bugfix" on it instead of "current".

HOWEVER, think about it for a second: the whole point of "bugfix" is "only fix bugs, don't add new features". New hardware support is a feature, is it not? Adding additional hardware support to "bugfix" would require changes at a deep enough level that it could cause an unintended regression/bug even for already-supported existing products.

I don't think this is a good idea.

If a new product comes out that can only run "current", and the "current" chain at the time has a showstopping bug in it that doesn't exist in "bugfix", best strategy is to report the bug to MikroTik Support and wait for the fix to show up in a future version. At least this way "bugfix" won't risk otherwise-avoidable regressions on existing hardware that you are already running it on, plus bugs are weeded out of current and future releases faster (there is always a risk that when someone downgrades to "bugfix" to avoid a bad bug in "current" or "RC" that they won't bother to report the bug that caused them to downgrade).

I know it's probably not what you want to hear...

-- Nathan
 
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Re: Suggestion: release routers with preinstalled Factory Software from Bugfix release chain

Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:26 am

You are right about added hardware support. Adding support into bugfix, will negate any advantages of Bugfix-only release, since it introduces potential problems.
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