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yaserloz
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my signal is -54 and have problem with rb433 help please :(

Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:37 am

hi guys i have point to point link with tow routers rb433 and 32 db dish and 600 mw xr5 wlan
and the distance is 35,5 KM between

my signal is perfect and my CCQ is 100/100 and my rx/tx rate is 54/54
but whene my rx reach 12mbps my rx drop down and the log give me error extensive data loss
note :- my nstrem is on but when i turn it off the problem is gone but the speed will be like shit it will not reach the 7mbps
for more info this is a pic please help me this problem killing me :(

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Re: my signal is -54 and have problem with rb433 help please

Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:49 am

 
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Re: my signal is -54 and have problem with rb433 help please

Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:22 am

you are using 10Mhz channel witdh so the real bandwidth is upto 15Mbps
 
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Re: my signal is -54 and have problem with rb433 help please

Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:41 am

u mean i can't go above 15mbps with 5ghz-10mhz
but my isp said that this band is for long distance do u confirm this info
 
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Re: my signal is -54 and have problem with rb433 help please

Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:29 am

32 db dish
What make and model of dish are you using for this link
 
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Re: my signal is -54 and have problem with rb433 help please

Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:46 pm

hyperlink 32db
 
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Re: my signal is -54 and have problem with rb433 help please

Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:31 pm

u mean i can't go above 15mbps with 5ghz-10mhz
but my isp said that this band is for long distance do u confirm this info
By using 10Mhz instead of 20Mhz the radio transmitting energy is bundled in a narrower channel. Thus the ´reach´ increased some or, at the same distance, a station will receive a bit stronger signal. (approx. 2/3dBm)
You can even go to 5Ghz.

The downside is that 10Mhz channel halves the possible data throughput compared to 20Mhz and 5Ghz does so again.
Rule of thumb is that your actual usable data throughput is sort of 50-60% of the connected stable data rate both antenna's maintain.

So, in 20Mhz you have a theoretical max. data throughput of 56*50% is 28Mbps.
In 10Mhz this would be 56/2*50% is 14Mbps.
In 5Mhz this would only be 56/4*50% is 7Mbps.

And this is all when radio's can connect to highest data rate with a signal of at least -73dBm.
If signals are worse than this the radio's will try to communicate at lower rate.
If rates are set to ´default´ on both ends or many options available the link will probably jump between data rate settings which each time creates extra overhead on the traffic and thus further decreases your throughput.
So it is also wise to set the data rates such that links don't ´jump`too much in connected data rates. Better a lower rate with high quality than a high rate with many data getting lost!
 
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Re: my signal is -54 and have problem with rb433 help please

Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:27 pm

By using 10Mhz instead of 20Mhz the radio transmitting energy is bundled in a narrower channel. Thus the ´reach´ increased some or, at the same distance, a station will receive a bit stronger signal. (approx. 2/3dBm)
You can even go to 5Ghz.

The downside is that 10Mhz channel halves the possible data throughput compared to 20Mhz and 5Ghz does so again.
Rule of thumb is that your actual usable data throughput is sort of 50-60% of the connected stable data rate both antenna's maintain.

So, in 20Mhz you have a theoretical max. data throughput of 56*50% is 28Mbps.
In 10Mhz this would be 56/2*50% is 14Mbps.
In 5Mhz this would only be 56/4*50% is 7Mbps.

And this is all when radio's can connect to highest data rate with a signal of at least -73dBm.
If signals are worse than this the radio's will try to communicate at lower rate.
If rates are set to ´default´ on both ends or many options available the link will probably jump between data rate settings which each time creates extra overhead on the traffic and thus further decreases your throughput.
So it is also wise to set the data rates such that links don't ´jump`too much in connected data rates. Better a lower rate with high quality than a high rate with many data getting lost!
for 3 month this problem kill me but with your post the problem solved thanks man to you and all guys how shared their info with me
 
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Re: my signal is -54 and have problem with rb433 help please

Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:03 am

for 3 month this problem kill me but with your post the problem solved thanks man to you and all guys how shared their info with me
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