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RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:42 pm

Hi,

We noticed RB750G is EOL and replaced by the 750GL which contains double memory.
We were full of joy untill we noticed the CPU was clocked down (and probably software locked) to 400MHz. Why is that?

I don't understand the approach of doubling the ram and at the same time downgrade the cpu frequency while 750G and 750GL contain exactly the same cpu.

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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:03 pm

the RB750G uses AR7160 680Mhz and new RB750GL uses AR7242 (400mhz)
 
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:34 pm

the RB750G uses AR7160 680Mhz and new RB750GL uses AR7242 (400mhz)
Ok, that clears up the fact that it isn't the same cpu, I didn't really investigate, just used "/system routerboard print" which showed the same cpu model.
But still, it would have been a much more nice device with a 680MHz cpu and I don't understand why a lower clocked model was chosen for this.

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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:58 pm

Because it's a cheaper part, making the hardware cheaper and lowering the price for the end user.
 
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:49 pm

Because it's a cheaper part, making the hardware cheaper and lowering the price for the end user.
Yes, but it also lowers performance and I don't think the price difference between those two cpu's is that big.
I would be happy to pay a few $$ more if the device was equipped with a faster cpu like the one in RB750G ;-)
 
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:40 pm

I believe the RB750GL has much larger MTU capability that the RB750G.
Even though the clock speed might be less, I'll bet the transfer speed efficiency will make up for it. Just a guess though.

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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:21 am

I believe the RB750GL has much larger MTU capability that the RB750G.
Even though the clock speed might be less, I'll bet the transfer speed efficiency will make up for it. Just a guess though.

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This assumes that the network is using an MTU higher than 1500, which is usually not the case anyway.

Are there any comparisons of the AR7242 and AR7160 out there?
 
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:27 pm

It also creates better separation between the 750G and the 450G lines.

400MHz is still a lot of power in one of these devices. If you really need something stronger, bumping up to a 450G isn't a far stretch.
 
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:27 pm

Unfortunately, on streakwave the price difference for us between the 750g and 750gl is only $5. Not hardly worth the reduced speed imo.
 
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:40 am

Unfortunately, on streakwave the price difference for us between the 750g and 750gl is only $5. Not hardly worth the reduced speed imo.
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:06 pm

While more CPU is always nice, based on the CPU usage graphs which show the max % used in the single digits there's a lot of headroom to spare. ;-)
 
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:02 pm

I bought over a hundred 750g and only few 750 the last year, the cpu upgradable to 800mhz is not comparable to the new 750gl sorry but this product is not necessary, for me is only a 100/1000 switch, the cheapest 750 will be for now my choice.
 
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:43 pm

I bought over a hundred 750g and only few 750 the last year, the cpu upgradable to 800mhz is not comparable to the new 750gl sorry but this product is not necessary, for me is only a 100/1000 switch, the cheapest 750 will be for now my choice.
Indeed, like I said, the RB750GL would have been a great product improvement if the cpu was left unchanged.
@tjc: This depends heavily on what you do with it. If you have lots of shaper queues you will notice the difference!
 
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Re: RB750G vs RB750GL, why is the cpu clocked down?

Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:41 am

@tjc: This depends heavily on what you do with it. If you have lots of shaper queues you will notice the difference!
True enough, power users can almost always find ways to use more cycles if they're available.

On the other hand, what % of the RB750G's out there never use more than 5-10% of the available CPU? My SWAG would be at least 75% and probably more like 90+%. Since they still have other options for those who need the extra speed it seems like a smart move.

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