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Availability of the RB751G

Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:56 pm

Hi, is there any estimation of date when the RB751G RouterBoard become available? I need urgently gigabit router with wireless. I have to mix a RB450G with RB411 these days. I will prefer one box.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:43 pm

Hi, is there any estimation of date when the RB751G RouterBoard become available? I need urgently gigabit router with wireless. I have to mix a RB450G with RB411 these days. I will prefer one box.
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:11 pm

RB435G will do this for you.

Just not a fully "Integrated solution"


RB435G works great, too!
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:15 pm

RB435G is really nice piece of hardware, but for my needs it is little bit a "overkill machine". RB751G is exactly router I need.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:57 pm

Hi, is there any estimation of date when the RB751G RouterBoard become available? I need urgently gigabit router with wireless. I have to mix a RB450G with RB411 these days. I will prefer one box.
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:53 am

Is there a case that fits the RB435G?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:26 am

EDIT -- WRONG CASE! Sorry, i was not thinking clearly when i made this post. This will not fit a 435G due to the rear mini-pci slots. I've used these cards

before, just forgot about the extra 2x slots on the back.

The only similar solution with a case will be the 493G Routerboard with the RB493 Case. There is no indoor 435G case as of this writing that i know of.


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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:45 pm

Is there any 19" rack case for RB450G with internal power supply?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:27 am

Nice case. Hope to get it soon.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:47 pm

And how do you make it fit? Cut the miniPCI connectors off the bottom side of the board? :shock:

There is not an indoor case solution for the RB435G that I am aware of.

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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:49 pm

Is there any 19" rack case for RB450G with internal power supply?
Bad picture but we have been shipping this for about 6 months.

http://www.roc-noc.com/mikrotik/routerb ... b450g.html

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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:56 am

--Thanks for catching that. i was thinking of the 493 board, as i was just messing with one that day. i will fix my post.

sincere apologies!

but then again perhaps you could de-solder the rear slots if you were desperate :)
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:56 pm

So, no date? When will be RB751G available? Next month? In September? At Christmas? Next year?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:49 am

Normis.. I imagine that the RB will also work at 5GHz. me the mistake? and plans to put gigabit ethernet to omnitik? I Need a Router with 5 ports Gigabit with 5ghz interface. thanks
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:58 pm

So, no date? When will be RB751G available? Next month? In September? At Christmas? Next year?
I asked sales yesterday. They are now saying August.

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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:25 pm

Tom, do you know anything about the availability for the RB2011? Thanks.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:44 pm

I asked sales yesterday. They are now saying August.

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Hm, sounds good. Let's see.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:35 pm

So, August is here. How does it looks like with RB751G availability? Does we have a real hardware to buy?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:16 am

Bump.

Keen on one of these, or the RB751-2n

What is the difference between RB751U and RB751G ?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:18 am

Bump.

Keen on one of these, or the RB751-2n

What is the difference between RB751U and RB751G ?
difference is that the RB751G has gigabit ports, the RB751U doesn't have gigabit ports.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:04 pm

So, there is almost an end of August, and RB751G nowhere. When will be available?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:45 pm

Actually the RB751G will come after the RB751U, which will ship to distributors in around 10-14 days.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:16 am

So, any progress? Or RB751G is going to be delayed as others from new models?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:32 am

RB751U is out now. Any news on RB751G?
Please do not ignore us. Thank you.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:42 am

Will RB751G have USB port? And will have more than 32MB RAM? I need Metarouter.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:05 am

RB751U is out now. Any news on RB751G?
Please do not ignore us. Thank you.
just like it was always said, RB751G will come a few months after RB751U
 
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Availability of the RB751G

Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:27 pm

just like it was always said, RB751G will come a few months after RB751U
I know that you don't have an exact release date, but do you mean it will be available in 2-3 or 5-8 month???
 
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Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:05 am

Hopefully, it will be precisely one year after its paper presentation at MUM in March. :D :D :D
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:24 am

Tom, do you know anything about the availability for the RB2011? Thanks.
Yes. It should be renamed RB2012.

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Tom, do you know anything about the availability for the RB2011? Thanks.
Yes. It should be renamed RB2012.

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That's funny.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:45 pm

Some time has passed by. Do we have any news, any update, any relase date of RB751G ?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:44 am

we are working on it, hope to give you some good news soon!
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:11 pm

specification for 751g specially ram & processor please ?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:10 am

Yes Normis, Do you have a prototipe of RB751G? Please Post the Specifications. Thanks
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:00 pm

I have been waiting since march and still no news, but today I found out some information from one eshop, but who knows, where they got it from.

http://www.ipmedia.cz/?cls=stoitem&stiid=2214

Přístupový bod/router 2,4 GHz 802.11b/g/n
Možnost připojení externích antén (2Tx 2Rx), konektor 2x MMCX
USB 2.0 port
Výstupní výkon 1 W
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Procesor: Atheros AR7420, 400 MHz
Paměť SDRAM: 32 MB
Paměť NAND: 64 MB
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Unfortunately availability seems to be next year in January. :-( :-( :-(

I really want to buy it, but I have been waiting for so long.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:14 am

5x LAN 10/100 Base-T Fast Ethernet
these are not the specifications of RB751G, but probably RB751U (you can check on our site).

but the only difference between RB751U and RB751G is the Gigabit ports.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:12 am

with wireless being 2HnD if similar to RB751U MAX usage with wireless turned on will not be 3W :) and with these being Gbit ports, definitely not 3W
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:18 pm

RB751U ? RB751G?
Ok, good product, but when in CE?
2012 ... 2013 ... ???
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

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5x LAN 10/100 Base-T Fast Ethernet
these are not the specifications of RB751G, but probably RB751U (you can check on our site).

but the only difference between RB751U and RB751G is the Gigabit ports.
Yes, but at the top of the page (headline), they have 5x Gigabit....

Anyway Normis I'm curious why are manufactures still using 100 Mbit ports, is it way cheaper then 1000 Mbps solution?

Thanks
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:30 pm

one of the reasons could be that 100Mbps ports use a lot less electricity. Working 1Gbps port is around 0.5W to 0.7W while older one has 0.1W to 0.2W
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:41 am

Post subject: Re: Availability of the RB751G ... It's ok?
But if it's impossible to buy a RB751G what is the difference between Gigabit or ethernet ?
Where is the mythical RB751G ? Not in Europe ... wow ...
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:57 am

at this moment RB751G is not available for sales anywhere.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:42 am

I have been recently actively looking for a gigabit switch 802.11n capable. I came across RT-n66U, which looks very atractive, but today I've also found references to the RB751G.

Can anyone comment on the benefits of the RB751G when comparing it to RT-n66u and dd-wrt compatible boxes in general?

Thanks a million in advance,
 
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:54 am

I have been recently actively looking for a gigabit switch 802.11n capable. I came across RT-n66U, which looks very atractive, but today I've also found references to the RB751G.

Can anyone comment on the benefits of the RB751G when comparing it to RT-n66u and dd-wrt compatible boxes in general?

Thanks a million in advance,
1. RB751G is not yet for sale, it's an announced product, it will be available within a month or so
2. RB751G is not a switch, it's a wireless router with optional switch functionality
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:59 am

2. RB751G is not a switch, it's a wireless router with optional switch functionality
Imagine then that I add this functionality... how does it compare with the aforementioned devices?

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Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:03 am

comparison is similar like supermarket trolley compared to military hummer :)

Routerboard is powered by a professional RouterOS operating system, which has thousands of functions, and is running global networks. It is the same OS that's running our high end devices, and has the same functionality.

The Asus device is a home router with a few functions. It's performance is lower and functionality very limited.

Of course, many functions also means steep learning curve, but once you master RouterOS, you have full control and very much power.
 
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:13 am

well, thing is, on its brochure the RT-n66u looks promising but of course marketing people are very dangerous... I'm looking forward to your device. Whats the "real" expected wireless speed?

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Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:21 am

802.11n realistic speed could be around 200Mbit. Depends on traffic type and capabilities of the client.
 
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802.11n realistic speed could be around 200Mbit. Depends on traffic type and capabilities of the client.
thanks for that. My clients would be 1 Macbook Air 2011 and 1 Macbook Pro 2011, so I don't expect them to be any kind of bottleneck... I intend to use the device as a home router. I currently have a 802.11 b/g access point and if I ever dare to work with photos from trips and so on, my network chockes... I hope this device will manage to ease that.
 
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802.11n realistic speed could be around 200Mbit. Depends on traffic type and capabilities of the client.
thanks for that. My clients would be 1 Macbook Air 2011 and 1 Macbook Pro 2011, so I don't expect them to be any kind of bottleneck... I intend to use the device as a home router. I currently have a 802.11 b/g access point and if I ever dare to work with photos from trips and so on, my network chockes... I hope this device will manage to ease that.
Hi, one question. When you say, the 751 series are 802.11n compliant, does that mean that they work on both 2,4Ghz and 5Ghz simultaneously?

Could you point me to the right source of information with regard to the RB751G? thanks
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:48 pm

no. the full name of the product indicates what chip it has
example: "RB751U-2HnD"

2 - 2GHz
H - High powe
n - 802.11n
D - dual chain (two antennas)
 
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no. the full name of the product indicates what chip it has
example: "RB751U-2HnD"

2 - 2GHz
H - High powe
n - 802.11n
D - dual chain (two antennas)
Isn't that a huge setback considering how busy the 2,4Ghz band nowadays is in large cities?
 
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:30 pm

depends on where you live. yes, we will have 5GHz models also.
 
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depends on where you live. yes, we will have 5GHz models also.
I understand that won't happen anytime soon, right? do you plan to simultaneously support both 2,4 and 5G?

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Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:37 pm

chips that support both usually cost a lot more, currently we only support one or the other.

however, for indoor use, 2GHz is perfectly fine, for small distances like a house or an apartment, any interference from "overcrowded" 2GHz band will be negligible.
 
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:58 pm

chips that support both usually cost a lot more, currently we only support one or the other.

however, for indoor use, 2GHz is perfectly fine, for small distances like a house or an apartment, any interference from "overcrowded" 2GHz band will be negligible.
Sorry if this is a little offtopic, but isn't the 5Ghz band capable of enabling faster throughput rates?

Regarding "overcrowded" spectrum, I can assure you that when I scan for wireless networks back at home, I do see 8 - 12 SSIDs from other neighbours and I live on the outskirts. I'm pretty sure that gets a lot worse in downtown, and taking into account that the 2,4Ghz band is said to only enable 3 out of 12 usable channels, choosing a 2,4Ghz based device does not look like a smart move, does it?

Do you guys have a gigabit dual band wireless router in the pipeline? I wouldn't go for a 5Ghz only based device since, up to what I've read, most smartphone now a days only work in the 2,4Ghz band...

Thanks a lot for your responses. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

Regards,
 
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:24 pm

I do see 8 - 12 SSIDs from other neighbours
Lucky you, I see 17 right now.
 
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:37 pm

I do see 8 - 12 SSIDs from other neighbours
Lucky you, I see 17 right now.
I still wonder if choosing 2,4Ghz is the way to go considering how overcrowded that spectrum is...
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

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I'm on the verge of ordering the RB751U-2HnD because I don't think this G version will be out until after Christmas, and probably not until after the new year, and the price difference between U and G models will probably not be worth the gigabit ports for me, considering they are only useful when transferring files between ethernet connected LAN devices, with gigabit nics of their own(both my desktops have, but my netbook only has 10/100). Now if I had 100mb/s internet service to my house, then the gigabit ports might be worth the LAN speed and any overage you might see from your ISP(110mbps?!). If my local Mikrotik distributor (Flytec Computers) hadn't been sold out of the 751U for the past few weeks, I would have ordered one already. Now that we're so close (at least I hope?) to the release of RB2011 and RB751G, I kinda want to wait and see what the price points are on those, but I may still end up getting the RB751U anyway.

kitus, be careful not to drown in the rain with your nose as high as it is man :lol: what do you want next, USB 3.0??? :shock:
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:41 pm

I still wonder if choosing 2,4Ghz is the way to go considering how overcrowded that spectrum is...
From 5 (not Router related) wireless devices at my house only one had 5Ghz support, others are 2,4Ghz only, so as far as i can see - there is no point for 5Ghz indoor AP especially because 5Ghz have harder time to penetrate walls and go around obstacles than 2,4Ghz.
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:50 pm

kitus, be careful not to drown in the rain with your nose as high as it is man :lol: what do you want next, USB 3.0??? :shock:
hahahahah, you got me!!!

seriously, I've already made a couple of mistakes in the past purchasing devices that have disappointed me, that's why I want to make sure I buy what I need. I just feel that purchasing a 2,4Ghz AP right now can be a problem in the future if I, for some reason, get a device that will work only in 5Ghz.

Do you think I sound spoiled when wanting to get myself something capable of running in both bands? :?
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:52 pm

I personally have the same observation as Macgaiver above, most consumer devices still only support 2GHz.
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:56 pm

I personally have the same observation as Macgaiver above, most consumer devices still only support 2GHz.
ok, and what about throughput then? are faster throughputs expected in 5Ghz, or that does not make any difference?
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:00 pm

I personally have the same observation as Macgaiver above, most consumer devices still only support 2GHz.
Huh. All my laptops and tablets support 5Ghz.

At my workplace 55% of all connections are on 5Ghz, which is huge given that smart phones can only do 2.4.
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:02 pm

given that smart phones can only do 2.4
what about this then? here, almost everyone use smartphones now.
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:07 pm

I personally have the same observation as Macgaiver above, most consumer devices still only support 2GHz.
Huh. All my laptops and tablets support 5Ghz.

At my workplace 55% of all connections are on 5Ghz, which is huge given that smart phones can only do 2.4.
yeah, that's what I wanted to point out here...
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:18 pm

Maybe this is where the misunderstanding is: I'm not saying I don't want to offer 2.4 at all. I want to offer both. There's so many clients now on 2.4 (because, as you said, everyone has a smart phone) that there's more 2.4 APs, so there's crazy interference. I wasn't kidding when I said I can see 17 SSIDs at home. All but one of them are on 2.4. So I want to offer a 5GHz AP to my laptops and tablets so they get decent service.

Other than smart phones all consumer devices I encounter regularly support 5GHz.
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:21 pm

both would require two wireless chips, and would make the device significantly more expensive.
 
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As long as it is $1 cheaper than twice as expensive I would be saving money, because right now I have to buy two devices (or one from a different manufacturer that has two chip sets - which is significantly more attractive because it is cheaper, uses less foot print, is easier to configure, and uses less power).

And I'm certainly not alone in wanting both.
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:08 pm

And I'm certainly not alone in wanting both.
I hear you... prior to discovering mikrotik products, I had my eyes on the Asus RT-n66u which is also supposed to come out very soon and does feature both radios simultaneously (its predecessor, the RT-n16u only had one)... I can't comment though on how powerful mikrotik routers can be when comparing them with SOHO devices running ddwrt.

I wish smallnetbuilder or any other website run a review on both...
 
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Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:39 pm

So, some update on RB751G availability?
 
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Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:24 pm

I want to offer both.
What about RB433 + two network cards? I'm using it. But it is not so cheap, indeed.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:15 am

2GHz and 5GHz also would need separate antennas. In the end, it would be quite a lot more expensive. Of course, we hear you, and we are constantly looking how to make such products possible.
 
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Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:05 pm

But the subject in this post is : Availability of the RB751G ?
I don't think so ....
 
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Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:55 pm

But the subject in this post is : Availability of the RB751G ?
I don't think so ....
why is that?
 
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Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:46 am

Newsletter 35 Talks about the 1100AHx2, 750UP, and the Sextant 5HnD, and yet the 751G seems strangely missing.

On that note, do we even know what processor will be in it? I'm really hoping for a 680MHz here.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:28 pm

Merry Xmass. There is no RB751G so there is no Santa Claus or any other "gifts delivering" person. Some update, date, ETA ?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:23 pm

Really?!? This is a highly expected product. You'll kick all soho routers butt with this one. Why is taking so long to release it? Personally, i'll buy 5 when they'll be available. Any eta?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:37 pm

Like it was stated before, RB751G will be available after the RB751U. We only just released the RB751U a few weeks back. Please try to be understanding, we are doing what we can.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:13 am

I'm waiting for RB751G as well.

I would get RB435G if there is an indoor case. My usage, for now, is small. However, I will expand it wider and move RB435G outdoor eventually. At least, that was my plan.

Mikrotik did not take adaptability into account at all. One thing I don't understand is why Mikrotik keeps releasing 100M ethernet products instead of gigabit ethernet. Networking is all about adaptability. In my very own opinion, I wouldn't buy anything that is already DOA like RB751U. I hope Mikrotik can explain yourself well.

Now, RB433GL is released. I'm considering whether I should buy RB751G or RB433GL. I think I'll get RB433GL since there is no point waiting for RB751G any more.

BTW, normis. You said "few months" on Sep 26, 2011 which is on the first page of this thread. Now you told us that "you just released the RB751U a few weeks back." Please be consistent about what you want to say. I think I understand you, at least business wise. You won't release product too quickly to kill previous product. If you really want us to understand you, you should try to understand us first. Do you get my point?

Mikrotik, you do have great products. Your RouterOS is fantastic. However, please do not let your arrogant kill you. You should improve your product line instead of making it worse. I hope I express myself clear enough. Thank you after all.
RB751U is out now. Any news on RB751G?
Please do not ignore us. Thank you.
just like it was always said, RB751G will come a few months after RB751U
Like it was stated before, RB751G will be available after the RB751U. We only just released the RB751U a few weeks back. Please try to be understanding, we are doing what we can.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:35 am

My statements are not contradictory. You are misquoting me. Read again:
few months after RB751U
RB751G will be available after the RB751U
This is still true. RB751U was released a few weeks back. This means a few months from that moment, RB751G should become available.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:35 pm

The 751G has just appeared on www.routerboard.com . Yummy!

Can't wait for it to be available at the resellers...
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:58 pm

I see on the site the CPU as being 400 mhz? Is this correct mikrotik? You advertised this product with a 680Mhz CPU. Well..first disappointment about this product.
 
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:28 am

I see on the site the CPU as being 400 mhz? Is this correct mikrotik? You advertised this product with a 680Mhz CPU. Well..first disappointment about this product.
when did mikrotik advertise such things?
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/hu11.pdf
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/generic.pdf
http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/AR11/01_intro.pdf
 
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:33 am

i searched and searched. i'm sure I saw 680 mhz whn you first announced it 1 year ago. maybe it's just me. i thought it makes more sense to put a 680 mhz cpu in there. like the rb 750/750g. well ..you won't kick all soho router's butt anymore.
 
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:34 am

RB750GL also doesn't have such CPU, it has 400MHz.

The CPU frequency is not the only measurement of speed, for any type of computer.
 
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:04 am

Does MTU of RB751G-* same like for RB750GL? 4074 bytes on all ports?

RB750GL 4074 4074 4074 4074 4074
 
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:09 am

yes, all port max-l2mtu is 4074 for the RB751G
 
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:22 pm

RB750GL also doesn't have such CPU, it has 400MHz.

The CPU frequency is not the only measurement of speed, for any type of computer.

I'm talking about RB750G not the inferior RB750GL model. RB750G was a killer at his specs. I think there was some pressure on Mikrotik to stop manufacturing and selling RB750G, resulting in the appearance of RB750GL.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:24 pm

you can buy the RB450G which has 680MHz. Same for all other RB7xx vs RB4xx products. One is targeting price, other is targeting features. Choose one.
 
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:33 pm

I'm searching for a b/g/n wireless router with giga ports, decent CPU power and at least 2x2 MIMO. This is exactly RB751G. If it only had a 680 mhz CPU. Is this 400mhz CPU overclockable?
 
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:20 pm

The throughput of 751G appears to be the same like the 751(not G) model.
The CPU seems to be the same also.
Is this correct?
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:11 am

Of course not - it has gigabit ports! the throuhgput of the RB751G is not yet measured.

the CPU is the same, yes.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:35 pm

Normis
Some questions about 750G&751G

1.
In 750g - for AR7161 in datasheet we see
AR7161 WNPU
– 600 MHz (850+ Dhrystone MIPS) (its mean what chip developer specifies upper limit recommended by the frequency of 850MHz)
and in router OS 5.xx, we see for 750g - what MikroTik allow to set max cpu frequency as 800MHz
Question:
for 751g - AR7241 I have not found it datasheets, so the question to you - what is the maximum frequency limit for a chip manufacturer recommends (by analogy with the above information for AR7161)
and in router os 5.xx for 751g what maximum frequency MikroTik allows to set?

2.
Next question
Its posible to set 1 port - in Routing Mode
and all other port in Bridging Mode ?

3.
And i have some idea or wish, for your marketing department -

Why not put on the market RB751G POWER EDITION - based on a more powerful chip Atheros.

Certainly in the line of chips Atheros has a more powerful chip that is compatible even pin chip and do not even have to change the board design, only replace the chip. Also in the POWER EDITION you can add memory as well as make it any more improvement. It is clear that the price will be higher +15(20)$, but will be covered in more segments in the market.
And those who are concerned the low price, choose a simple 751G, and those who are willing to pay more, and to whom performance is important, choose a 751G POWER EDITION.
MikroTik to release 751G POWER EDITION also earn money and everything will be in winnings.

p.s. Clearly, in the production of important unification, so POWER EDITION should differ only in a more powerful chip, board layout must remain the same as a normal 751G (here you need to think your engineers, and correctly pick up the chip from the line Altheros) - but I think that it is possible and it is quite feasible.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:37 am

1.
In 750g - for AR7161 in datasheet we see
AR7161 WNPU
– 600 MHz (850+ Dhrystone MIPS) (its mean what chip developer specifies upper limit recommended by the frequency of 850MHz)
yes, it was possible to clock the CPU this way, but the RB750 is not manufactured anymore. You have RB450G with similar possibility
2.
Next question
Its posible to set 1 port - in Routing Mode
and all other port in Bridging Mode ?
of course, this is RouterOS, configure as you like
Why not put on the market RB751G POWER EDITION - based on a more powerful chip Atheros.
why? this is a home router. I have not managed to bring my device to it's limits even though I have 100Mbit fiber line to my apartment. I personally have no need for more CPU clock just so it looks bigger. The device is already plenty powerful for SOHO installs. For outdoors or ISP level installs, use RB4xx series or better.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:20 am

yes, it was possible to clock the CPU this way, but the RB750 is not manufactured anymore. You have RB450G with similar possibility
Yes i know it, i already have RB750G.
I'll give this information for example, but my question was about such a possibility for RB751G (see my post earlier) - but you did not answer it, please could you give this information?
2.
Next question
Its posible to set 1 port - in Routing Mode
and all other port in Bridging Mode ?
of course, this is RouterOS, configure as you like
Normis I posed this question(2) incorrectly (sorry) - I had in mind the following:
As you know RB750G have "Switch Chip Features" (Atheros8316)
and i can configure port on hardware layer.
In RB751G - have this "Switch Chip Features" ? And what chip used for this (in RB750G its -Atheros8316)
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Why not put on the market RB751G POWER EDITION - based on a more powerful chip Atheros.
why? this is a home router. I have not managed to bring my device to it's limits even though I have 100Mbit fiber line to my apartment. I personally have no need for more CPU clock just so it looks bigger. The device is already plenty powerful for SOHO installs. For outdoors or ISP level installs, use RB4xx series or better.
I understand that you want to say and I know that 75xG is positioned as a home router for SOHO, but there are nuances:

Most mainstream home routers - its simple NAT router with simple web configuration, not involving serious configuration and other opportunities, and advanced functions. (I mean device like TPLINK and other-a good device for the money - 30-40 $) They are functional enough for most ordinary users, who prefer simple and inexpensive device according to the principle - "plug and work"

In contrast, RB75xG have full featured MikroTik RoutersOS (though positioned as SOHO Router), with a wide range of options. Such devices are buying more advanced users who need more advanced functionality than in routers for $ 40-50 and thin configuration options.

RB75xG costs about $ 100 and above (I mean the final price for the buyer) - and their buying power users who really need the functionality RouterOS and they understand for what they pay. And if they are in full use of possibilities RouterOS (not simple NAT, but many firewall rules, Queues, and other RouterOS function)
at high speeds 50-100 Mbit fiber - it gives a greater burden on the router.
I agree with you that even most people who buy their RB75xG enough performance, but there are some people who need more.(and I think that these people enough for RB751G power edition)
I will say for yourself.
I use RB750G and long awaited (like many other advanced users) from MikroTik device with a functional RB750G + WIFI functional
Came RB751G - all good, even with increased memory to 32MB 64MB - cool, but the processor ...(downgrade compared to the 750G)
Again, I agree with you that most probably it will be enough, but who need more then so might be worth it to introduce the so-called POWER EDITION? You can even conduct a poll (vote) on the forum so that you estimate is needed 751G POWER EDITION or not. Admittedly this can be done after RB751G-2HnD appear in the mass selling and appreciate his work in the real world of work.
 
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Re: Availability of the RB751G

Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:45 am

I mean the final price for the buyer
maybe in your country, but I see ~40Eur as the normal market price in Europe.
I'll give this information for example, but my question was about such a possibility for RB751G (see my post earlier) - but you did not answer it, please could you give this information?
no, it has a 400MHz CPU which can't be overclocked at all
In RB751G - have this "Switch Chip Features"
yes, Atheros8327. any port can be master port to any other port.
downgrade compared to the 750G
like I said, there is no more such product. compare it to current lineup. for low cost choose RB7xx, for high performance choose RB4xx.
 
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Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:24 pm

maybe in your country, but I see ~40Eur as the normal market price in Europe.
~40Eur ? - ~ 52$ ? for RB/751G-2HnD ? but recommended price on routerboard.com 79.95$
where possible buy RB/751G-2HnD for ~40Eur ???
downgrade compared to the 750G
like I said, there is no more such product. compare it to current lineup. for low cost choose RB7xx, for high performance choose RB4xx.
Normis, I need a device (and I think that not only me) with the following functionality:
Base
5 Gb port, all non-blocking ports (Store-and-Forward switching architecture with non-blocking wire-speed performance)
~ 700MHz CPU (like on 750G or more or faster)
Integrated Wireless 802.11b/g/n
USB 2.0 (or now USB 3.0) port
64-256MB RAM
MikroTik OS
Optional (may make a few modifications)
Integrated 3g or version with miniPCI-E slot & SIM card slot
that was integrated technology similar to Green Ethernet

I hope that MikroTik will soon release such a device, no matter in what line - SOHO or Business

And I am surprised that such a large product line MiroTik there is still no such device.

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