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Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:57 pm

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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:42 pm

Finally ;-)

Reserved 6 from the first batch to my country. Taking the day
off to meet the trailer when it arrives in about two weeks.

Childish I know, but we are taking about the router of the year ;-)
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:51 pm

Yay!

So, what is this CCR1016 model number I see silk-screened onto the board?

16 core version?

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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:54 pm

CCR1036-12G-BU - $625.00
CCR1036-12G - $645.00
CCR1036-12G-4S - $995.00
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:09 pm

whoops... any specs?..
Looks like product naming gives lots of specs:

CCR10<ab>-<c>G-<d>S

<ab> - number of cores
<c> - number of Gigabit Ethernets
<d> - number of SFP cages

-BU -board unit (without Rackmount case), for installations in your own boxes :)
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:16 pm

OK to clear up some rumours:

CCR1036-12G-4S
Cloud Core Router 1036 with Tilera 1.2Ghz 36-core CPU, 4GB RAM (2x2GB), 4xSFP, 12xGbit Ethernet, RouterOS L6, 1U rackmount case with touchscreen LCD, power supply
List price $995

CCR1016-12G
Cloud Core Router 1016 with Tilera 1.2Ghz 16-core CPU, 2GB RAM (2x1GB), 12xGbit Ethernet, RouterOS L6, 1U rackmount case with touchscreen LCD, power supply
List price $645

CCR1016-12G-BU (without enclosure)
Cloud Core Router 1016 with Tilera 1.2Ghz 16-core CPU, 2GB RAM (2x1GB), 12xGbit Ethernet, RouterOS L6, touchscreen LCD, power supply
List price $625

Our tests show that Cloud Core Router series can push wire speed throughput via all ports (up to 16Gbps full duplex on CCR1036-12G-4S, up to 12Gbps on CCR1016-12G), making it the fastest MikroTik product ever made. Pre-production batches for evaluation will arrive from the factory in ~two weeks.

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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:24 pm

What's going to be so good about the cloud core router anyways? What types of stuff or user interface is there versus the regular mikroitik/winbox? Any demo available for this unit?
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:37 pm

What's going to be so good about the cloud core router anyways? What types of stuff or user interface is there versus the regular mikroitik/winbox? Any demo available for this unit?
Performance! Everything else like regular MikroTik RouterOS v6 router.
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:49 pm

Awesome pricing!
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:16 pm

Pre production batches in 2 weeks ?
What about the production batches ?
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:23 pm

Do these have hardware acceleration for aes IPSec?

Other the that, as said before, great pricing guys!
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:35 pm

Ill take 2
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:03 am

AFAIK, Tile-Gx 8000 series has only 16-, 36-, 64- and 100-core versions :)
9, 16, 36:
http://www.tilera.com/sites/default/fil ... 036-02.pdf
64 Core is a different family:
http://www.tilera.com/sites/default/fil ... r_A_v4.pdf
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:32 am

Will there be a version with temperature range -20 to 60 Degree
for outdoor cabinet usage?
Would be great at the base of towers.
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:18 am

Will there be a version with temperature range -20 to 60 Degree
for outdoor cabinet usage?
Would be great at the base of towers.
The board unit with 16 cores will happily run at those temperatures if installed in a waterproof case.
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:29 pm

Can you tell me the aes128 performance of the ccr models? Do they have also a special crypto chip?

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Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:47 pm

Normis: Can you tell us power consumption?
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:10 pm

So now that there are 36 and 16 core versions, will there be a "Light" version like:
* 9 core TILE CPU
* 4 GBit ports + (1-2 SFP ports)
* no display
* passive cooling
* wire-speed gigabit routing (with non-conntrack firewall)
* priced at < $250

That is the router I've been searching for quite some time now.
Same here, Basically need a version of the RB450G with this chip TILE-Gx8009 (with the encryption option) PN# TLR4-00980CG-12CE

No need for a silly colour touch screen on a commercial router. Only adds to the cost and wank factor.


On the full spec version SFP+ would make more sence
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:55 pm

normis, CCR support 8/16GB ram. Only CCR or x86 ros v6 too?
 
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Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:02 pm

I think only CCR, because have 64bit V6. x86 dont have this feature
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Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:02 pm

Got to say the price is awesome! Will there be a 16 core version with sfp?
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:02 pm

So now that there are 36 and 16 core versions, will there be a "Light" version like:
* 9 core TILE CPU
* 4 GBit ports + (1-2 SFP ports)
* no display
* passive cooling
* wire-speed gigabit routing (with non-conntrack firewall)
* priced at < $250

That is the router I've been searching for quite some time now.
Same here, Basically need a version of the RB450G with this chip TILE-Gx8009 (with the encryption option) PN# TLR4-00980CG-12CE

No need for a silly colour touch screen on a commercial router. Only adds to the cost and wank factor.


On the full spec version SFP+ would make more sence
I would suggest to consider future 450G and 493G replacements to have this 9 core cpu and one or two SFP ports. Even phones these days have multiple cores.
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:46 pm

If we could now have the FastReroute-MPLS Feature this would bei a good mpls base
 
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:14 pm

If we could now have the FastReroute-MPLS Feature this would bei a good mpls base
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:51 pm

Any new about SFP+ Ports ( for 10Gbps on one port ? ).
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:53 am

I saw the 36 core router at the mum. It was 99% CPU and consuming ~49 watts iirc
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:25 am

Cool. I`ll get 2 pcs of CCR1036. It is so wonderful that price is amazing low. I thought price will be something like 3K$. The CPU encryption offloading specs are here:
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:15 am

I saw the 36 core router at the mum. It was 99% CPU and consuming ~49 watts iirc
This could be possible, because MAX consumption on the CCR1036 is 60W.
MAX consumption of CCR1016 is up to 38W.

Both values at average room temperature.
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:23 am

The CPU seems to support SPF+, so will there be a version soon?
 
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:30 am

The CPU seems to support SPF+, so will there be a version soon?
We are always working on new and improved products, but we don't comment on things we have not announced.
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:23 pm

We are always working on new and improved products, but we don't comment on things we have not announced.
Any official comment on IPSec hardware acceleration?
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:26 pm

The Tilera CPU supports IPsec acceleration, as was stated above by otgooneo. Intial RouterOS software release will not support it, but we are actively working to add software support in upcoming RouterOS versions (it is definitely coming!)
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:50 pm

The Tilera CPU supports IPsec acceleration, as was stated above by otgooneo. Intial RouterOS software release will not support it, but we are actively working to add software support in upcoming RouterOS versions (it is definitely coming!)
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they have 2 slots for sodimm DDR 1, 2 or 3?

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they have 2 slots for sodimm DDR 1, 2 or 3?

tks 4 help
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Does the CCR-1036 support DDMI from SFP modules ?
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:39 am

Does the CCR-1036 support DDMI from SFP modules ?
yes, CCR have DDMI support.
 
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yes, CCR have DDMI support.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:33 am

What's the lowest power usage on the devices, does routeros have some type of power save implemented or is it always close to maximum ?
 
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:05 am

What's the lowest power usage on the devices, does routeros have some type of power save implemented or is it always close to maximum ?
The above given values were the absolute MAX, with all ports running full speed, and max load on everything.

Running Idle, consumption will be this:

CCR1036 consumption is 28W on average (with LCD off).
CCR1016 consumption is 17W on average (with LCD off).
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they have 2 slots for sodimm DDR 1, 2 or 3?

tks 4 help
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:18 pm

Will CCR support metarouter? Is there a standard compiler that works with the Tilera? With all of those cores it might be interesting to do some virtualization.
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:07 pm

Hello!

The CPU specs say:

- - -
IEEE1588v2 precision timing controller support
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Is there going to be a version of the CCR that supports PTP on the PHY level so that you can run Synchronous Ethernet over the CCR?

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Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:32 pm

What's the lowest power usage on the devices, does routeros have some type of power save implemented or is it always close to maximum ?
The above given values were the absolute MAX, with all ports running full speed, and max load on everything.

Running Idle, consumption will be this:

CCR1036 consumption is 28W on average (with LCD off).
CCR1016 consumption is 17W on average (with LCD off).
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:24 am

http://www.tilera.com/about_tilera/pres ... -36-core-c

The initial device in the Cloud Core Router family, the CCR-1036-12G-4S, features 36-cores, 12 Gigabit Ethernet ports and four SFP fiber module ports. Future members of the family will support multiple 10Gbit SFP+ fiber ports and tens of gigabits of network throughput.
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:08 am

Hello!

The CPU specs say:

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IEEE1588v2 precision timing controller support
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Is there going to be a version of the CCR that supports PTP on the PHY level so that you can run Synchronous Ethernet over the CCR?

BTW, the CCR looks awesome!
For the market at this hardware is targeted this feature should be supported.

Normunds, will CCR support this feature in the near future?
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:26 am

Hello,

Wich SFP pn LX do you recomend to use with CCR?

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Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:35 am

I am interesting to CCR1036-12-4S however I dont need SPF connection,
but the Core and NAND of 4S are much more than without 4S
Core: 36 vs 16
NAND: 1G vs 512M

Can tell what is the performance difference between CCR1036 & CCR1016 ??


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Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:38 am

Can tell what is the performance difference between CCR1036 & CCR1016 ??
24 million packets per second, vs 18 million packets per second. for comparison, in the same test RB1100AHx2 has 1.7 million pps
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:57 pm

I am interesting to CCR1036-12-4S however I don't need SPF connection,
but the Core and NAND of 4S are much more than without 4S
you can use Gbit ethernet modules in these ports. So you are not limited to fibre modules only.
 
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:24 pm

How come 16 core CCR can do up to 1.5mpps and 32 core up to 8mpps?

Also, if CCRs can do 24mpps or 17.8mpps why don't you quote up to 32Gbps or 24Gbps throughput respectively? Is there a limitation that does not allow each port transmit at 2Gbps?
 
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:40 pm

How come 16 core CCR can do up to 1.5mpps and 32 core up to 8mpps?

Also, if CCRs can do 24mpps or 17.8mpps why don't you quote up to 32Gbps or 24Gbps throughput respectively? Is there a limitation that does not allow each port transmit at 2Gbps?
I was assured by support it is only for now. There are lots of features/improvements coming into CCR as v6.x gets older.
Anyway 1,5milj pps in not bad for "Pre-production batch for evaluation"<c>.


Ehm...
24mil 64byte pps = =24mil*8*(64+ 14 (Ethernet header) + 4 (Ethernet trailer))/1000/1000 = 15,744Gbps ;) - all ports receives and sends out almost wire speed small packets - impressive :)
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:30 pm

Pre-production batches differ from the regular batches ?
 
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:32 pm

you can use Gbit ethernet modules in these ports. So you are not limited to fibre modules only.
Which Gbit modules are supported? When we can expect Mikrotik modules?
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Pre-production batches differ from the regular batches ?
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:49 am

Pre-production batches differ from the regular batches ?
Is that true? Where can we find this kind of information?
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:28 am

Pre-production simply means that initial manufacturing capacity is not so high, and RouterOS v6 is not yet completely mature. Hardware will not change (except gradual revisions over time, just like any product)
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:35 am

rmichael, macgaiver is right:
24mil 64byte pps = =24mil*8*(64+ 14 (Ethernet header) + 4 (Ethernet trailer))/1000/1000 = 15,744Gbps
this is full speed full duplex - the limit is the port speed basically.
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:56 am

Which Gbit modules are supported? When we can expect Mikrotik modules?
we have tested some:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported ... FP_modules

all ones marked with Works! ff them are working on CCR. (As well as RB2011) Similar/compatible modules should work too.
 
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:36 pm

rmichael, macgaiver is right:
24mil 64byte pps = =24mil*8*(64+ 14 (Ethernet header) + 4 (Ethernet trailer))/1000/1000 = 15,744Gbps
this is full speed full duplex - the limit is the port speed basically.
Is this also valid for firewall? Or just normal packet-forwarding?
 
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we are working on "fast path" for firewall too. we will publish more detailed tests in a few weeks
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:05 pm

rmichael, macgaiver is right:
24mil 64byte pps = =24mil*8*(64+ 14 (Ethernet header) + 4 (Ethernet trailer))/1000/1000 = 15,744Gbps
this is full speed full duplex - the limit is the port speed basically.
Eh? 16Gbps (or ~24mpps) throughput is only full bidirectional throughput for 8 ports (1gbps transmit, 1gbps receive = 2gbps throughput total).

If you're passing traffic through the CCR1036-12G-4S you'd need to be able to get 16Gbps in each direction (or 32Gbps total) simultaneously for it to be classified as wirespeed.

16 1Gbps Ports * 2 = 32Gbps Duplex Throughput * 1.488 Mpps = 47.616Mpps Wirespeed Throughput
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:41 pm

With for example 15 Mpps, what is the CPU usage % ?

We have Some UDP packet attacks and web want to use CCR for stop the attacks.

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Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:12 am

Lets clear out confusion. (i think it is at least third topic on this matter in last few years)

Throughput
In communication networks, such as Ethernet throughput or network throughput is the average rate of successful message delivery over a communication channel.

So in plain words - you send traffic from side A and wait how much traffic will come out via side B.
RFC2544 is a testing standard that have set of instructions and conditions that specified, how to determine DUT (device under test) throughput.

Anyway theoretical maximal throughput of the device can be sum of all port TX - 16 ports = 16Gbps =~24mil pps
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Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:21 am

I think perhaps I've been spending too long around switch vendors who count the packet on the way in and on the way out as part of the system total PPS.
 
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Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:47 am

Maybe not the right place, but just wanted to say that the info on 'CCR1016-12G-BU' says 17.8Mbps (should be mpps I guess?) :)
 
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we are working on "fast path" for firewall too. we will publish more detailed tests in a few weeks
This is this
but tell me its not only for Cloud Core Router?
 
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we are working on "fast path" for firewall too. we will publish more detailed tests in a few weeks
This is this
but tell me its not only for Cloud Core Router?
I don't think so ;-) see http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Fast_Path
 
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we are working on "fast path" for firewall too. we will publish more detailed tests in a few weeks
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:30 pm

Hello,

I have this module GBIC MODULE 1000BASE-LX FIBER SFP AGM732F from netgear. This is working with CCR???

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Hi

The ccr 1036 is faster than Intel i7 6 core 3.3Ghz?
 
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:10 pm

Hi

The ccr 1036 is faster than Intel i7 6 core 3.3Ghz?
as always, it depends on configuration and on how many interfaces are in use. Also, what will be cost of 16 1Gbit interfaces (if you populate SFP ports with copper Gbit modules) for your x86 box.
 
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:21 pm

Are there any performance figures for tunnel and VPN performance of the CCR?

I'm looking at a PPTP VPN server application and would like to know the throughput of any individual connection and the total aggregated throughput of multiple users. I've been hitting the throughput limits of 1200 and 1100ahx2 recently and the CCR appears to be 'the way to go'. I don't have to use encryption (would prefer it though) as the users are connecting over a private LTE network.

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Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:00 pm

Hello Hozmax,
The ccr 1036 is faster than Intel i7 6 core 3.3Ghz?
Please let us all being realistic, in your set up you are able to insert sfp network interface cards from hot lava
and there for it will be not reach the same network throughput for the CCR series. Only in my poor opinion, but
it should be better to compare x86 machines against x86 machines and RouterBoards against Routerboards or if
you wish RouterBoards to routers from other vendors, but please also even products matching the same price
range and device class.

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As an example:
You would not be fair if you are going on to compare a VW Beetle with an Porsche Cayenne,
but they both are owning a motor that burn petrol, 4 wheels and they are also both cars for civil usage.

The most peoples that acting very serious by doing router comparisons or tests are buying or assembling those devices and run then a test inside their network, with their specific needs, rule sets and then it will be coming nearly an equal
point that they would be able to chose where they want to point their device in action!

The i7 6core (HT with 12)max CPU load 42%. Simple Queues 1200, L7, 350Mbit / s,
this will take the load from the CCR?
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:23 am

Shit ..Can you just tell us performence of CCR in forwarding with firewall ??? !!!!!!!!!

I dont need to compare x86 with x86 !! i know how much firewall rule can use core-i3 or core-i7 without performance degradation ! I just whant to know how many firewall rules i can use on CCR !
Why UBNT with Edgemax can share his results (tolly report) and mikrotik hiding this numbers many months ???
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Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:45 am

martini, you should know better than ask such questions. I thought you know that this depends on type of traffic, type of rules, type of other config and settings. there is no such thing as "1000 firewall rules"
Why UBNT with Edgemax can share his results (tolly report)
you can read the small print in that report, it will explain what type of rules and how many of them. we can publish similar report, but it will not answer your questions (because of the type of rules they have there)
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Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:04 am

@hozmax
How many peoples you know at this time (today) who is owning a router from the ccr series?
And know tell me who is able to compare this machines for you with an exactly clone of your pc based router?
The i7 6core (HT with 12)max CPU load 42%. Simple Queues 1200, L7, 350Mbit / s,
this will take the load from the CCR?
Once more again, only for you, peoples who are doing seriously router comparing tests, are buying the devices
let them run in their network environments, to compare them against and based on this results, they are able to
come closer to use this devices where, when and for what! Only in my poor opinion.

@martini
Do you want to start the second version of the thread as "the locked thread 2.0"?
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63693
Tilera quotes:
The Tile-Gx36 (1.40GHz) has demonstrated an industry-best CoreMark score of over 165 000 (over 60% higher compared to Intel Core i7-2600K), while consuming a fraction of the power of the nearest competitor.

In networking, a single Tile-Gx36 can deliver more than 40 gigabits per-second of L2/L3 packet forwarding performance across small and large packet sizes using less than 25W of power.In cloud, a single Tile-Gx36-based server can provide better performance than a Xeon-based system at one-fifth the power and one-eighth the space.
Above performance numbers and the fact that each port is directly connected to CPU, CCR could be a game changer for routerboard family.
 
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Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:26 am

oh no.. ))) Normis - i'll be waiting you in Kiev ) 8)
 
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Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:14 pm

I already paid for 3x CCRs too and still there is an uncertainity now about the delivery dates. Even distrbutors doesnt know when they will receive them.

Miktorik, please confirm when are you going to ship these products ?
 
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Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:24 pm

Hi Normis,

FWIW Sales just told me the end of next week. December 14th. Would be great if they ship sooner but I'm not holding my breath for that.

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Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:25 pm

Hi Normis,

FWIW Sales just told me the end of next week. December 14th. Would be great if they ship sooner but I'm not holding my breath for that.

Tom
It will take some time to upgrade them, pack them and ship them. So sales is simply being cautious with promises.
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Just ship them to us, we will upgrade them to the stable version 6 before we sell them on :P
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Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:00 pm

@nickshore
Exactly. Ship the hardware. It is pre-production and people are aware of it .
 
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:00 pm

truly impressive chip from TILERA :P
probably increasing production/sales/usage of chips both improve income and decrease prices.
and thuse bring whole new meaning/caps to networking.
rumored to be used in future acoustic/radar processing and satellite imaging by US and British military, for example. so this mean HUGE order from US DoD and price drop for other customers.
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:44 am

Will CCR support Metarouter please ?
 
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Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:21 pm

wonder/expect about something placed/targeted/priced between CCR Routerboards and present 2011.
built on to say/example, 8 core Tilera or 4-core ProAptiv chip[variant with FP and DSP] at 900Mhz, with 512 Mb RAM, one SFP+ cage, 8 1Gb-T copper ports, 128 Flash for[dunno] $189 ?
could be game/market changer, probably. and/or something alike, to: 1. fill gap. 2. exploit wonderful arch/chips potential[more widely].

[off-topic]
btw, there any chances/signs about 10Gbase-T adoption by Routerboards ? ie as "LAN" ports.
is any rumors how soon Atheros adopt Aptiv-core features/generation of MIPS?
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Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:33 pm

CCR doesn't have switch chip.
 
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Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:37 pm

CCR doesn't have switch chip.
WOW !!!
don't know what else to say then[keeping in mind - specified pps preformance...]
next Tilera chips[they anounced up to 916 cores on future] can turn CCR to something groundbreaking[which stomp CISCO/Juniper&etc into dust then].
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:52 pm

I know that anyone has yet touched the ccr1036, but seeing the video of the ccr1036 and test performed on RB 1100 AHx2, I have the following doubts:

I see the max traffic per interface using small packets (64 bytes) its like 1 Mpps, and 500 Mbits, its possible saturate a gigabit interface with 64 bytes packets coming from another 2 interfaces ?
I need combine traffic from 3 peers BGP to a distribution network connected to a Gig interface.
I will need to modify our network to use 1 port for each distribution equipment ? or will be able to use like now using only 1 interface ?
What about firewall, pcc, p2p control ? If only use 3 ports will be possible to use the extra CPU cores to process this kind of traffic ?

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Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:39 am

well if even 2011 can do about 150-170Mbps[SFP itself peaked at 85Mbps] on 64b packets traffic[without firewall, quees, p2p control and etc, you need], but 16-core and 36 core CCR with doubled frequency[and new arch]probably would do 1Mb+500Mb even with management/control you need/used.
scalability on Tilera chips-based hardware more depend[just like on other MP systems]on scalability of firmware/software[&latency/bandwith of interconnect and external bus]. thats why im pointed/devoted to Erlang lang. difference with C code measured in hungreds on stress load.
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Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:06 pm

Here are preliminary (RouterOS v6 rc) results for the CCR 36 core version. Note that filter rules, including bridging and forwarding, will have fastpath support in one of the future versions which will bring it back to possibly wire speed for 64 byte packets (full duplex).

Double the numbers in the table to see aggregate (one packet coming in, one leaving):
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Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:45 pm

Great info Normis. Thanks for that.

Now please inform us if the shipment date is still valid as mentioned (this week).
 
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Great info Normis. Thanks for that.

Now please inform us if the shipment date is still valid as mentioned (this week).
At the moment, "this week" is still valid.
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Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:51 pm

I'm thinking of buying 1016-12G cloud core router.
But i didn't find any info on web site:

How is it with the ipsec encryption acceleration? rb1100ahx2 has acceleration core but what about this?

Is there one core per port? or it will use as many ports as it needs for one interface routing?

I'm thinking of making ipsec router from main office to many smaller offices.

How it will work with tunneling encrypting decrypting?
 
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Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:53 pm

Currently the hardware acceleration is not supported in software, but in future we will add this via software update.

No, each core is not assigned to specific port, one port will work with all cores, they will be assigned per task, not per port.
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Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:56 pm

so i think, that would be not a problem to encrypt 500mbps~ with those cores?
or it will use one core per ipsec tunnel ?
 
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Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:39 pm

so i think, that would be not a problem to encrypt 500mbps~ with those cores?
or it will use one core per ipsec tunnel ?

I have almost the same question but on using it for pppoe without encryption. Will the pppoe service run on 1 core or will it create a new service for each tunnel. Would really like to replace my current servers if possible, they are big and power hungry.
 
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Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:38 pm

It would be great to see a dual power option. Even better if it had 24/48VDC. All My high end equipment has dual power input. Heck, my core switch has four separate dc inputs.
 
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Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:03 pm

The ccr 1036 is faster than Intel i7 6 core 3.3Ghz?
Looking on "preliminary (RouterOS v6 rc) results for the CCR 36 core version" shown by normis, and comparing it with my BGP-server (xeon 2527 MHz, 4 core, ), I think CCR will be same or even worse performance than core i7 3.3Ghz...
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Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:22 pm

Here are preliminary (RouterOS v6 rc) results for the CCR 36 core version. Note that filter rules, including bridging and forwarding, will have fastpath support in one of the future versions which will bring it back to possibly wire speed for 64 byte packets (full duplex).

Double the numbers in the table to see aggregate (one packet coming in, one leaving):
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Still supposed to begin shipping this week. With only Thursday and Friday left, I think that means they are packing orders and they actually will ship.
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Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:08 am

Thanks Normis for the pre-performance chart. How is the performance using queue trees instead of simple queues?

Also I was actually planning to use the CCR1036(SPF cages) as a domestic router when I get my gigabit fiber connected, how is the sound level of the fan? Is it server room sound level?
 
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Thanks Normis for the pre-performance chart. How is the performance using queue trees instead of simple queues?

Also I was actually planning to use the CCR1036(SPF cages) as a domestic router when I get my gigabit fiber connected, how is the sound level of the fan? Is it server room sound level?
During normal operation, fans are quieter than RB1100AHx2 fans. With heavy load they can become slightly noisier, but that doesn't happen too often (hard to load this device ;) )
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Pre-production samples for evaluation purposes will be available from Distributors, starting December 2012. Place your order for test units with your Distributor now!
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No, it doesn't mean it's free. It means it will be in limited number, and with RC software.
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Any hardware change between Pre-production & production version?
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Any hardware change between Pre-production & production version?
No hardware changes. But as you know from other products that we make, we always make small hardware improvements, and development never stops. There are many small hw revisions for the RB750 for example. So I guess during the next year, it is possible that some small hw adjustments will be made, if this would be necessary.
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Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:03 pm

Still supposed to begin shipping this week. With only Thursday and Friday left, I think that means they are packing orders and they actually will ship.
YAY YAY YAY!!!
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My distrubutor said they will get them tomorrow :)

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It looks more and more that Mayan calendar will end as soon as my CCR will start :D
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It looks more and more that Mayan calendar will end as soon as my CCR will start :D
[offtopic rant]
The Mayan calendar isnt ending, its just a completion of a 13 b'ak'tun cycle. The fact that its ending is a pure fabrication...
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Yay, CCR!
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CCR i am waiting for you
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CCR i am waiting for you
Let's see how will my CCR deals with 150k pps Syn Flood on Monday!
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CCR i am waiting for you
Let's see how will my CCR deals with 150k pps Syn Flood on Monday!
2xRB1100 dead under this pps at the moment :D
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I'm sure that the world will come to an end for some.
After all the world comes to an end for some at the end of each one of our calendar cycles.

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The CCR that we are starting to ship, is going to be pre-loaded with RouterOS v6rc5, which is not the full release, and is not yet completely optimized to use full potential of the Cloud Core Router. These are some of the features we are working on for eventual release in v6

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The CCR device itself has a lot of potential, and software upgrades will make it better and better.
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The CCR device itself has a lot of potential, and software upgrades will make it better and better.
Not a problem. Here we will start deploying it beside existing production infrastructure, test it, keep its firmware up to date, and when we feel it's mature enough, it will become part of the main infrastructure.
 
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We are shipping in order of payment, so this means that not everyone will get them at the same time. Some will get them sooner, some later.
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Update from my distributor:

They will send me my ccr on 21.12.12
This is the last and final %100 accurate date :)

So I hope to receive it before new year..
 
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Update from my distributor:

They will send me my ccr on 21.12.12
This is the last and final %100 accurate date :)

So I hope to receive it before new year..
We will send it by today :) we preparing now all ccr for all client who already pay for ccr. So our client will received today tracking number to track parcel. Happy new year for all.
 
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CCR1036 - 89.254.128.157 admin no password
here the ip, who want to connect and see ccr from winbox.
and http://89.254.128.157/

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CCR1036 - 89.254.128.157 admin no password
here the ip, who want to connect and see ccr from winbox.
and http://89.254.128.157/

;)
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no problem, we will reset it if it will down by some user ))
 
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CCR1036 - 89.254.128.157 user eurodk.com pass eurodk.com
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We will send it by today :) we preparing now all ccr for all client who already pay for ccr. So our client will received today tracking number to track parcel. Happy new year for all.
My CCR is on it's way :)
Thank you very much eurodk!!!
I hope to get it on Monday. Let's see how it goes.
 
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CCR1036 - 89.254.128.157 user eurodk.com pass eurodk.com
here the ip, who want to connect and see ccr from winbox.
and http://89.254.128.157/
are we seeing those tx/rx drops or just my eyes messing with me?
 
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:31 pm

There is no MetaROUTER. Will it be supported on CCR?
 
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CCR1036 - 89.254.128.157 user eurodk.com pass eurodk.com
here the ip, who want to connect and see ccr from winbox.
and http://89.254.128.157/
Please start your router again. Want to have a look. My ordered 2 routers will be arrived January.
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done
 
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Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:18 pm

Yes thanks for letting us take a look. Really appreciated. You might want to sent out PM's instead of posting this publicly. I won't mess with it but someone might try:-)
 
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Tools -> Profile show only aggregated load over all cores
the reason I wanted to see each core separately is that at the moment I connected via WinBox, there were 2 CPUs with 100% load :)
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Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:14 pm

2 cpu with 100 % - simply run btest to 127.0.0.1 :) may be it was my btest...
 
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2 cpu with 100 % - simply run btest to 127.0.0.1 :) may be it was my btest...
and only 450 mbits without firewall rules ... or 310 both directions

Eurodk, could be possible put 30 firewall rules ?

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Btest runs only 1 connection. This is no measure of speed. Please use something more advanced, not created 10 years ago. I suggest serious traffic generator config.
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can it handle about 2000 concurrent hotspot users (connected with LAN 1Mbps each)??
if yes what is the max limit
 
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:45 pm

Hello,

I'm using CCR 16core as a Main L3 switch from ISP. my total bandwidth is 2G but CCR support only 1G port.
so i made bonding interface for uplink to ISP backbone router and downlink to my main ROS x86 server.
my ISP using Cisco Backbone grade router and they made LACP for 2 of 1G RJ45 connection to my Rack.

and also i made 2 of Bonding interface using CCR port 9,10 for My main x86 machine(rr mode) and port 11,12 for UPLINK (802.3ad mode)

at this moment, CCR work well without any issues. it handle 2.5~4Gbps traffic between x86 machine and internet.
but there are TX-packet drop on bonding interface .

and i don't understand why. please guide me to solve this issue.

P.S. RX-drop of x86 machine can ignore. it happend long time ago.
P.S.2 x86 machine handle 300 of c-class subnet
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Getting crashes as soon as I plug my configured router in to my network. Nothing in the logs. Anyway I can find out what happened?
 
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Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:08 pm

Getting eager to jump the gun on this, but my main concern is still sound, it will be in a ventilated closet at home, in the hallway. Thus how do you perceive the sound level of the 16 and 32 core units? It will replace a RB800 where the 800 was way to loud first until I modified it.
I think the 16 core would do, but I like the SFP cages....
 
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I need more Power, please add in future a SFP+ Support for 10 GbE this would be awesome!!!

btw nice job with current progress :)
 
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Just received, both CCRs ;)
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:46 am

Yesterday I received the CCRs, as you can see from my previous post. I was very happy and couldn't wait this night to install it. At this very moment, I'm sitting at our NOC. We just replaced our Core Mikrotik router with one CCR. The old router is quad core xeon Portwell server (Power Router 2200).
I expected the CCR will perform at least as the PR2200. Unfortunately, this is not the case.
I saved the configuration on the PR2200 and loaded it to the CCR. All what was left to be done was to match the IP adresses to the interfaces. After this was done, we removed all the cables from the PR2200 and plugged them into the CCR.
At this time (after midnight) we have very low traffic. So, we generated some traffic from my colleague's laptop. One simple torrent literally killed the CCR! I was disconnected from Winbox and the whole traffic simply stopped! This is strange, as the CCR's CPU usage was below 90% which should give enough space for winbox to stay active.
The problem was L7 filtering, which we used with zero problems on the PR2200. It's CPU usage was never above 20% with 5 times higher traffic and many times higher PPS!
I had to unplug both ethernet cables to our upstream providers to be able to connect to the router at all. Afer I switched off the L7 filtering, everything went back to normal. But, is it possible that the traffic from one laptop and traffic just above 10Mbit can kill the CCR regardless of L7 filtering? The packets per second was small as well...
Well, I can't say I'm impressed so far, until somebody gives some explanation about this.
I made a few pictures of the CCR LCD, so you can see what traffic is it about.
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:25 am

One small bug found:

For unknown reason, in the log the router reports that is has being rebooted without proper shutdown, but actually nothing happened?! :) Uptime is still counting properly....

Here is the screenshot:
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I had the same problem of "rebooted without proper shutdown" too experienced by jager. I caught this live while I was in a remote Winbox session. Funny thing was it wasn't a real reboot as connection wasn't broken.
 
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My CCR1036-12G-4S ~ v6.0rc6
can't get the fan speed by following command in NEW TERMINAL
/system health print

But my friend's CCR with same hardware and v6.0rc6 can do.

What's wrong?
 
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One small bug found:

For unknown reason, in the log the router reports that is has being rebooted without proper shutdown, but actually nothing happened?! :) Uptime is still counting properly....

Here is the screenshot:
@ jager
Yes I confirm that the same bug exists here too. Uptime counts, no reboots but log says that it rebooted.
 
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:03 pm

@doush

It looks like this is the same on all CCR's. We have two, and both have the same issue.
Well, as far as this is only a false entry in the log, that's fine :)
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:38 pm

Well, this is not acceptable.... Without router reboot or anything similar, the system name has reset to default (which is something I can live with). But, ALL users and their passwords have disappeared! The default admin/no_password user was present instead!!!! Very serious security problem, though. I set again the same users and disable the admin user. I hope so that this will not happen again. Since I'm using MikroTik (and it is really a long time ago) I never experienced something like this.

This happened while the BGP was started, retrieving the routes from 2 peers. I don't know is this connected, it actually should not be.

/system check-installation does not show any problem. LCD is set to "read-only".

Anybody with users reset problem, or is it only me???
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:19 pm

for me it happened on x86. seemed like HDD was lost: no entries in /files, and admin's password reset to default. reboot - and everything is back :)
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:36 pm

Chupaka, thank you for your feedback!

I haven't rebooted the CCR, that's true. I just set the new users again. It will be a little strange for the one day old CC router to lose the flash, right? :)

Well, hopefully this will not happen again :)
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:32 pm

Guys, sorry for this many posts from me.

Unfortunately, the "user reset" happened again. This time I can't log in with either my username nor admin/no_password

Before this happened, I was logged in winbox. The log showed again that the router was rebooted without proper shutdown. After that I logged off, but was not possible to log in again.

Well, this is enough, I can't leave it as is for the New Year evening. We will revert back to the PR2200. :(

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Do you use your CCR with the default admin user, with no password set up?
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Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:23 am

for me it happened on x86. seemed like HDD was lost: no entries in /files, and admin's password reset to default. reboot - and everything is back :)
this has happened to me a number of times, i thought my hhd was faulty now i think its ROS
 
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The log showed again that the router was rebooted without proper shutdown. After that I logged off, but was not possible to log in again.

Well, this is enough, I can't leave it as is for the New Year evening. We will revert back to the PR2200. :(
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@Chupaka

I tried to make supout.rif so many times, as the user reset issue happened 3 times before the router finally decided to lock itself! I of course rebooted it at the end, but without luck... Simply, after clicking the "Make supout.rif" button, it says that it is creating the file. However, the information box never closes, and the file is never created! I know it takes some time to create the file but if >30 minutes is not enough while the CPU usage is 3%, I don't know what to say....
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@doush
Do you use your CCR with the default admin user, with no password set up?
Yes.Currently default. I will setup another user/pass and try with it to check if same happens

Btw;
There is a MAC-Winbox issue. It takes around 5-6 tries to get into the CCR.
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:03 am

Thank you, Doush.
It will be good to test this, if the same will happen to your CCR as well.

I experienced the MAC-Winbox issue as well, but I think it is Win7 related. Linux+Wine, no problem with MAC access.
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we are currently optimizing some features for multi-core and the issue for L7 and other features will be addressed with updates.
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those with missing configuration - re-install rc6 and recreate configuration either bu importing backup or export script. you should be fine, this could be caused by problem in rc5 that is fixed for rc6
 
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Thank you, Doush.
It will be good to test this, if the same will happen to your CCR as well.

I experienced the MAC-Winbox issue as well, but I think it is Win7 related. Linux+Wine, no problem with MAC access.
can you send us the supout.rif file on your CCR when you are running RC6 and have the L7 issue? We would like to see your config, and the issue itself.
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:15 pm

Been playing with my CCR today, and hit a snag..... Why on earth do we only have a Max MTU of 6130? I run my core at 9000 generally, so the idea of using these in the core one day is completely kiboshed. Earlier Routerboards have had MTU of 9000+ for some time, why the change of heart....

Secondly, tell me this is a software limitation not hardware. :(
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:34 pm

Installed our first CCR this morning. Plug in one ethernet cable, all is good. Switch over the remaining cables from our RB1100AHx2 and the CCR starts rebooting. Remove cables, CCR stays up. CCR has RC6 on it.

There is no watchdog IP address on this router. Power cables were swapped, different power outlets were used, etc.

Any idea why plugging in ethernet cables would cause it to reboot over and over again?
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:52 pm

Hello!

I received CCR-1036 today and successfully upgraded to v6.0rc6
The system health voltage monitor show 0.0V, is it bug or factory hw failure!?

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Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:20 pm

Been playing with my CCR today, and hit a snag..... Why on earth do we only have a Max MTU of 6130? I run my core at 9000 generally, so the idea of using these in the core one day is completely kiboshed. Earlier Routerboards have had MTU of 9000+ for some time, why the change of heart....

Secondly, tell me this is a software limitation not hardware. :(
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when will cloud router is marketed in our country Indonesia? we've contacted the distributor in November, they said that the month of December can be bought, but until the month of January is not there? :(
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:26 pm

martini, bandwidth test is not any measurement for cloud core router. this was made 10 years ago, for routers of that time. I suggest you use something more serious, like the new Traffic generator. Or real traffic. You currently only use one core.
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:20 am

martini, bandwidth test is not any measurement for cloud core router. this was made 10 years ago, for routers of that time. I suggest you use something more serious, like the new Traffic generator. Or real traffic. You currently only use one core.
Hi Normis,

Maybe remove btest from RouterOS, and have a default "Bandwidth Test" profile in the Traffic Generator.

That should reduce support requests :)
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:53 am

Installed our first CCR this morning. Plug in one ethernet cable, all is good. Switch over the remaining cables from our RB1100AHx2 and the CCR starts rebooting. Remove cables, CCR stays up. CCR has RC6 on it.

There is no watchdog IP address on this router. Power cables were swapped, different power outlets were used, etc.

Any idea why plugging in ethernet cables would cause it to reboot over and over again?
I'm having the same reboot loop, it started when I was changing vlan and bridge membership. Stops when I unplug all the cables. I just emailed support.

Is it really true that we can't run 5.22 on these things? The option is there to download netinstall, but I haven't tried it.
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:01 am

we are currently optimizing some features for multi-core and the issue for L7 and other features will be addressed with updates.
Normis, we had to suspend the purchase of CCR36.
We are disappointed by performance.

NORMIS, you are sure that this performance problem on CCR36 will be resolve with updating software?
In our view, the instruction set of the processor does not have reserve to improve performance when working on Layer 7 level.
In our view Corei7 4C/8HT 2,5 Ghz will still be faster than CCR36, not only on the Layer 7, but also at other levels, including data encryption.
Yes, the matcher which takes care of L7 rules, is currently not optimised for multicore. You will get 36x the performance with software update.
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:06 am

we are currently optimizing some features for multi-core and the issue for L7 and other features will be addressed with updates.
Normis, we had to suspend the purchase of CCR36.
We are disappointed by performance.

NORMIS, you are sure that this performance problem on CCR36 will be resolve with updating software?
In our view, the instruction set of the processor does not have reserve to improve performance when working on Layer 7 level.
In our view Corei7 4C/8HT 2,5 Ghz will still be faster than CCR36, not only on the Layer 7, but also at other levels, including data encryption.
Yes, the matcher which takes care of L7 rules, is currently not optimised for multicore. You will get 36x the performance with software update.
If you took a number between 10 and 30 it would be believable. Everybody who has done some parallel computing knows that multiply by the number of cores is way to optimistic.
36x is marketing we are tired of.
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:08 am

I can't calculate it, so I made a generalization to that it's easier to understand.
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:41 am

If anybody is interested in an early RC7 build, we have added it to development tester accounts. Others can request it in support, or find it in the usual place. Only a few fixes so far, not everything that is reported. We should be able to see reason for that "rebooted" message.
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:25 am

Installed our first CCR this morning. Plug in one ethernet cable, all is good. Switch over the remaining cables from our RB1100AHx2 and the CCR starts rebooting. Remove cables, CCR stays up. CCR has RC6 on it.

There is no watchdog IP address on this router. Power cables were swapped, different power outlets were used, etc.

Any idea why plugging in ethernet cables would cause it to reboot over and over again?
I'm having the same reboot loop, it started when I was changing vlan and bridge membership. Stops when I unplug all the cables. I just emailed support.
Did you get any feedback from Mikrotik support on this issue ?

I was thinking about replacing 1 of my core routers today with CCR but this one seems like a showstopper for us. This is the 2nd report so far.

Mikrotik ?
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:09 pm

Hello!

Any news about CCR-1036 voltage monitor, is it bug or factory hw failure!?

Thx.

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Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:14 pm

Voltage monitor will be fixed in RC7
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:36 pm

Dear Normis!

Thanks for your quick response.

Any ETA for the v6.0rc7 ? :)

Yours sincerely,

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Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:34 pm

Just received my CCR and the touchscreen on the little lcd is rotated 90 degrees from the proper orientation.
The lcd displays correctly but I have to touch the left side of the screen to register a press on the bottom, the top is the left, and so on.
 
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Just received my CCR and the touchscreen on the little lcd is rotated 90 degrees from the proper orientation.
The lcd displays correctly but I have to touch the left side of the screen to register a press on the bottom, the top is the left, and so on.
Have you tried recalibrating the LCD?
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:28 pm

Thanks, that fixed it.
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:35 pm

Dear Normis!
Thanks for your quick response.
Any ETA for the v6.0rc7 ? :)
Yours sincerely,
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RC7 is on prerelease page. You can testing - if you have access.
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or here 8) x86 mipsbe tile these files are updated by mt from time to time until "final release" on web
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:23 pm

Hello Again!

The CCR-1036 support SO-DIMM ECC RAM memory ?
(...like: Kingston SO-DIMM 8 GB ECC DDR3-1333 x2)

What type of SO-DIMM memory is the best for the CCR-1036 ?
(ECC vs. NON ECC, 1333MHz vs. 1600MHz)

Please help choosing between these...

Thx.

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Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:24 pm

Installed our first CCR this morning. Plug in one ethernet cable, all is good. Switch over the remaining cables from our RB1100AHx2 and the CCR starts rebooting. Remove cables, CCR stays up. CCR has RC6 on it.

There is no watchdog IP address on this router. Power cables were swapped, different power outlets were used, etc.

Any idea why plugging in ethernet cables would cause it to reboot over and over again?
I'm having the same reboot loop, it started when I was changing vlan and bridge membership. Stops when I unplug all the cables. I just emailed support.
Did you get any feedback from Mikrotik support on this issue ?

I was thinking about replacing 1 of my core routers today with CCR but this one seems like a showstopper for us. This is the 2nd report so far.

Mikrotik ?
Support is working with me, but it's still rebooting on RC7. Seems to be related to bridges, I have two bridges configured. It reboots as soon as I plug anything into the second bridge.
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:58 am

Dear Dobby!

Thanks for your response.
I've got the same dilemma ECC vs. NON ECC.

Still waiting for official response about CCR-1036 and ROS ECC supporting...

What about the frequency 1333MHz vs. 1600MHz?


Sincerely,

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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:17 am

We currently run an x86 based RouterOS systems for our core routers.
They were all custom built systems, and we are looking to upgrade for various reasons.

We want to make sure that whatever we install are at least as powerful.

Currently the systems are Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 based, with 2GB of ram.
The busiest unit runs our bandwidth control, and typically sees 20-25 % with spikes into the mid 30s on occasion. However this is all on one of the cores. So in reality the unit is seeing ~50% usage, as we have never really seen the 2nd core do much of anything.

We want to start adding in additional tasks. More packet prioritization, possibly using L7 rules.
When looking at the CloudCoreRouter specs they list performance metrics for routing with a handful of simple queues and firewall rules.

Would it be possible for Mikrotik to provide a sample config, that could be run by end-users to evaluate what we are using now. I would be interested in purchasing 4 of the CloudCoreRouters is I knew they would be faster then what we use now.

To put it in perspective one of our main units has ~900 simple queues, ~60 filter rules, ~60 mangle rules, and preforms some light NATing for a few local servers. Trying to guess how one of the CCRs would handle this same load without buying one isn't easy.
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:17 am

We currently run an x86 based RouterOS systems for our core routers.
They were all custom built systems, and we are looking to upgrade for various reasons.

We want to make sure that whatever we install are at least as powerful.

Currently the systems are Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 based, with 2GB of ram.
The busiest unit runs our bandwidth control, and typically sees 20-25 % with spikes into the mid 30s on occasion. However this is all on one of the cores. So in reality the unit is seeing ~50% usage, as we have never really seen the 2nd core do much of anything.

We want to start adding in additional tasks. More packet prioritization, possibly using L7 rules.
When looking at the CloudCoreRouter specs they list performance metrics for routing with a handful of simple queues and firewall rules.

Would it be possible for Mikrotik to provide a sample config, that could be run by end-users to evaluate what we are using now. I would be interested in purchasing 4 of the CloudCoreRouters is I knew they would be faster then what we use now.

To put it in perspective one of our main units has ~900 simple queues, ~60 filter rules, ~60 mangle rules, and preforms some light NATing for a few local servers. Trying to guess how one of the CCRs would handle this same load without buying one isn't easy.
If you read ROS6RC6 thread you'll learn that MT has not started optimizing CCR for L7 yet. It appears that L7 engine is bound to one core only at this time. This is w/o a doubt a revolutionary product, however, like more experienced MT users said before me, wait till ROS version >6.10 for production ready product.
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:05 am

HI all,
got my 2 CCR last week and shoved them into action.

so far happy with the CPU usage 3% compared to 20-40% on my old x86 'Mikro noc 8400's from titan wireless'

i am getting the '14:14:36 system,error,critical router was rebooted without proper shutdown error every 10-30 mins. I only noticed it in the logs when i logged into the router to see why my stg.exe graphs where showing 'red bars' (ie as if the router was down) but there was still full traffic though my network ect.
it does seem to cause some jitter.

What’s the current best method to do a BW test between routers
(i have a CCR on one site, and a CCR at another with a fibre backhaul between and want to test the link, i think the crappy modules provided by the supplier are hitting max packet count)
 
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:35 pm

the "rebooted" error will be solved in RC7, check above for a link
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:21 pm

My CCR finally arrived yesterday due to some problems in customs office.
Been waiting for it for the last 2 weeks.
I've been getting 150k/pps syn flood attacks recently. Let's see how my new CCR deals with them.
Normally my overclocked RB1100's die instantly before I can null route attacked ips.100% CPU and nothing works.
I wonder how my new CCR deals with the same kind of attack.
This is the first time I am waiting for an attack with such excitement.
and No I don't need any test attacks to my network :D
My attacker will do it sooner or later anyway ...
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:25 pm

The v6 version support this feater reserved to CPU cores to processing services? 6 core to pppoe server service, 3 core to routing etc...
How to add or/allocate the ROS the 36 cores to processing services ?

Other.:

The cloud core router have on board 24v power supply, using the sites telco style rack mount 27/54 volt power backup systems(cet,delta,efore,flatpack etc..) after the future make the ccr router dc power outlet connector the back-panel ( phoenix contact connector etc.. ? ), and add this feater, make the router redundancy power supply external dc source ?!

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:53 pm

The v6 version support this feater reserved to CPU cores to processing services? 6 core to pppoe server service, 3 core to routing etc...
How to add or/allocate the ROS the 36 cores to processing services ?

Other.:

The cloud core router have on board 24v power supply, using the sites telco style rack mount 27/54 volt power backup systems(cet,delta,efore,flatpack etc..) after the future make the ccr router dc power outlet connector the back-panel ( phoenix contact connector etc.. ? ), and add this feater, make the router redundancy power supply external dc source ?!

Regards

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Distribution over cores happens automatically, you can't assign them yourself. Not all features support multicore completely yet, each RouterOS v6 update adds more support, so with every release, the CCR is getting faster.
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Dear Normis!

The CCR-1036 support SO-DIMM ECC RAM memory ?
(...like: Kingston SO-DIMM 8 GB ECC DDR3-1333 x2)

What type of SO-DIMM memory is the best for the CCR-1036 ?
(ECC vs. NON ECC, 1333MHz vs. 1600MHz)

Please help choosing between these...

Thx.

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Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:34 pm

Installed our first CCR this morning. Plug in one ethernet cable, all is good. Switch over the remaining cables from our RB1100AHx2 and the CCR starts rebooting. Remove cables, CCR stays up. CCR has RC6 on it.

There is no watchdog IP address on this router. Power cables were swapped, different power outlets were used, etc.

Any idea why plugging in ethernet cables would cause it to reboot over and over again?
This happened to me. Turn it off, plug all the cables in then turn it on... some strange bug.
 
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:39 pm

normis, is there any indication of when Metarouter will be supported on multi core routers? Or if this is even coming?

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Dear Normis!

The CCR-1036 support SO-DIMM ECC RAM memory ?
(...like: Kingston SO-DIMM 8 GB ECC DDR3-1333 x2)

What type of SO-DIMM memory is the best for the CCR-1036 ?
(ECC vs. NON ECC, 1333MHz vs. 1600MHz)

Please help choosing between these...

Thx.

Attila
The Tilera CPU supports it from the DDR3 controllers onboars, so it should work.
 
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I am about to order one but I had question about port/cpu. The router I am contemplating replacing currently only has ports in use. Wan/Lan, the lan port terminates 20 or so vlans in the building (router on a stick type config) with 1 vlan going to ospf distribution routers for other buildings.

From what I have seen it looks like the certain cpus are tied to certain ports. Am I wasting resources if I configure a CCR in this same way? I was thinking about possibly dropping fiber from the roof so at least the other buildings are on additional ports.
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I could be wrong but i think thats correct to assume that the CCR aggregate bandwidth, you could benefit from bonding if you could set that up, but since its a router on a stick, i assume that you have limited available cabling
 
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I am about to order one but I had question about port/cpu. The router I am contemplating replacing currently only has ports in use. Wan/Lan, the lan port terminates 20 or so vlans in the building (router on a stick type config) with 1 vlan going to ospf distribution routers for other buildings.

From what I have seen it looks like the certain cpus are tied to certain ports. Am I wasting resources if I configure a CCR in this same way? I was thinking about possibly dropping fiber from the roof so at least the other buildings are on additional ports.
On Tilera platform CPU allocation happens "behind the scenes" (part of Tilera advantage is that the software does not have to be optimized for parallel processing). That said, certain parts (MT has not revealed which) of ROS are not optimized for the architecture, like L7 filters and use only one CPU. Most likely, if all you do is routing, you'll be able to push 1Gb+1Gb on your LAN port.
 
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:35 am

Where is the SFP BiDi support?!

I have tried both MGB LB10 (http://www.ourfiber.com/mgb-lb10-p-287.html) and SFP-FE-100BX-U (http://www.vayray.com/cisco-glc-fe-100bx-u-sfp.html) with no luck!
 
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Cloud core and RB2011 doesn`t support 155Mbps (100mb) SFPs.
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I am about to order one but I had question about port/cpu. The router I am contemplating replacing currently only has ports in use. Wan/Lan, the lan port terminates 20 or so vlans in the building (router on a stick type config) with 1 vlan going to ospf distribution routers for other buildings.

From what I have seen it looks like the certain cpus are tied to certain ports. Am I wasting resources if I configure a CCR in this same way? I was thinking about possibly dropping fiber from the roof so at least the other buildings are on additional ports.
On Tilera platform CPU allocation happens "behind the scenes" (part of Tilera advantage is that the software does not have to be optimized for parallel processing). That said, certain parts (MT has not revealed which) of ROS are not optimized for the architecture, like L7 filters and use only one CPU. Most likely, if all you do is routing, you'll be able to push 1Gb+1Gb on your LAN port.
You have to program parallel to get parallel execution. Some parallel environments help distribute processes and memory afinities but you have to take care. Dont expect fast Progress and expect additional instabilities due to more complex code.
 
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I am about to order one but I had question about port/cpu. The router I am contemplating replacing currently only has ports in use. Wan/Lan, the lan port terminates 20 or so vlans in the building (router on a stick type config) with 1 vlan going to ospf distribution routers for other buildings.

From what I have seen it looks like the certain cpus are tied to certain ports. Am I wasting resources if I configure a CCR in this same way? I was thinking about possibly dropping fiber from the roof so at least the other buildings are on additional ports.
On Tilera platform CPU allocation happens "behind the scenes" (part of Tilera advantage is that the software does not have to be optimized for parallel processing). That said, certain parts (MT has not revealed which) of ROS are not optimized for the architecture, like L7 filters and use only one CPU. Most likely, if all you do is routing, you'll be able to push 1Gb+1Gb on your LAN port.
ok that trumps my assumption, really nice , so technically this means you cant allocate a cpu to a port? its all dynamic?
 
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Hi, today I got CCR router and I have problems right from the start. I put SFP module (that has previously been in the TP-Link media converter and is used to link to one of the providers) in spf slot . After I put the module in the CCR, the orange led is lit, ROS says that the link is ok and running but I can't make any traffic through that interface. It is a cisco BIDI module SBP6H44-C1-BN-49.

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I am about to order one but I had question about port/cpu. The router I am contemplating replacing currently only has ports in use. Wan/Lan, the lan port terminates 20 or so vlans in the building (router on a stick type config) with 1 vlan going to ospf distribution routers for other buildings.

From what I have seen it looks like the certain cpus are tied to certain ports. Am I wasting resources if I configure a CCR in this same way? I was thinking about possibly dropping fiber from the roof so at least the other buildings are on additional ports.
On Tilera platform CPU allocation happens "behind the scenes" (part of Tilera advantage is that the software does not have to be optimized for parallel processing). That said, certain parts (MT has not revealed which) of ROS are not optimized for the architecture, like L7 filters and use only one CPU. Most likely, if all you do is routing, you'll be able to push 1Gb+1Gb on your LAN port.
You have to program parallel to get parallel execution. Some parallel environments help distribute processes and memory afinities but you have to take care. Dont expect fast Progress and expect additional instabilities due to more complex code.
From what I've read Tilera platform presents itself as single multithreaded CPU (as it maintains cache coherency and TLBs across CPUs). So the software does not have to be written for multiprocessor/cluster architecture but it does have to be multithreading.
 
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The v6 version support this feater reserved to CPU cores to processing services? 6 core to pppoe server service, 3 core to routing etc...
How to add or/allocate the ROS the 36 cores to processing services ?

Other.:

The cloud core router have on board 24v power supply, using the sites telco style rack mount 27/54 volt power backup systems(cet,delta,efore,flatpack etc..) after the future make the ccr router dc power outlet connector the back-panel ( phoenix contact connector etc.. ? ), and add this feater, make the router redundancy power supply external dc source ?!

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Distribution over cores happens automatically, you can't assign them yourself. Not all features support multicore completely yet, each RouterOS v6 update adds more support, so with every release, the CCR is getting faster.
Thank you the answer Normis ! The ros 6 version support yet the multicore pppoe server service? The future ,aggregate about 2500 pppoe session the ccr and the traffic about 900mbit/500mbit.(the pppoe session use pap/chap encryption, change tcp mss :no, connection tracking: on)

My second question :
The future add external dc connector the ccr back-side? My company purchase about 60 pics 1100ah/1200/1100ahx2 devices,disconnect the main power supply, and make dc out connection the power backup system.

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Hi, today I got CCR router and I have problems right from the start. I put SFP module
Have you running RC6? If dont work you can try RC7
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Hi, today I got CCR router and I have problems right from the start. I put SFP module
Have you running RC6? If dont work you can try RC7
Ok, i will try that tomorrow.
 
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From what I've read Tilera platform presents itself as single multithreaded CPU (as it maintains cache coherency and TLBs across CPUs). So the software does not have to be written for multiprocessor/cluster architecture but it does have to be multithreading.
May be. You may get a parallel program which works. But to get a good scaling you have to take care where the data is and coordinate thread access to the data. Believe me it adds a lot of complexity.
 
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Hi, today I got CCR router and I have problems right from the start. I put SFP module
Have you running RC6? If dont work you can try RC7
same problem on v6rc7.
 
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Hi, today I got CCR router and I have problems right from the start. I put SFP module
Have you running RC6? If dont work you can try RC7
same problem on v6rc7.
RC7 has some more debug info in the supout.rif file. please make a supout.rif and send to support. we will now see the reason behind this. thanks!
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Hi, today I got CCR router and I have problems right from the start. I put SFP module (that has previously been in the TP-Link media converter and is used to link to one of the providers) in spf slot . After I put the module in the CCR, the orange led is lit, ROS says that the link is ok and running but I can't make any traffic through that interface. It is a cisco BIDI module SBP6H44-C1-BN-49.

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Same problem here!! tried many sorts of SFP, HP or CISCO firmware - that does not change anything - link is lit on CCR and it shows that the interface ir "runing" and the link is up, but on the cisco side link is not lit and the port remains in "not connected" state!!

By the way - where RC7 can be downloaded??
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Auto-negotiation is disabled. Did you try turning it on ? Also try some other settings that you can change.
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Auto-negotiation is disabled. Did you try turning it on ? Also try some other settings that you can change.
tried changing negotiation and all the other settings - nothing helped!

Normis, please tell me where can I get RC7 version? MT download page only lists RC6
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Auto-negotiation is disabled. Did you try turning it on ? Also try some other settings that you can change.
I tried everything possible, but I still can't realize traffic over the link.
I sent the suppout file an hour ago...
 
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Auto-negotiation is disabled. Did you try turning it on ? Also try some other settings that you can change.
tried changing negotiation and all the other settings - nothing helped!
Try to change autonegotiation on or off on the Cisco side. I had such problems even between cisco products (routers / switches).
 
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Auto-negotiation is disabled. Did you try turning it on ? Also try some other settings that you can change.
tried changing negotiation and all the other settings - nothing helped!
Try to change autonegotiation on or off on the Cisco side. I had such problems even between cisco products (routers / switches).
Tried that, infact tried also with cisco GBIC which by default is "autonegotiation off"
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:14 pm

Same SFP issue.

Unplugged from a media converter and plugged into SFP port on CCR and no luck.

uggg...
 
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I think it's perfect. want to have one of them!

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Did you try other "Rate Select" modes for that Cisco SFP?
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Thank you very much for the reports!
We have fixed all reported to support (support@mikrotik.com) issues in the newest pre-release build, that is available here,
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/ ... 6.0rc7.npk

Please update your routers to this version and provide us with feedback.
We continue to work on performance improvements as mentioned earlier.
 
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Thanks Mikrotik, I got my first two on Monday and am starting to play. Do you have ETA for full release of V6? Would like to go full release before going into further testing on live network :-)

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Thank you very much for the reports!
We have fixed all reported to support (support@mikrotik.com) issues in the newest pre-release build, that is available here,
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/ ... 6.0rc7.npk

Please update your routers to this version and provide us with feedback.
We continue to work on performance improvements as mentioned earlier.

Changelog ? What bugs have been fixed ?
 
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Either the new CCR1036 is a super router that can handle 250mbps / 50,000 pps total throughput at 0% cpu or the CPU Load metric is not working in 6.0r7
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Super router. I push much more than that and get 0% as well. Sometimes I hit 1%
 
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on CCR1036 if one core is loaded less than 36% you get load under 1% in total. You can check tool->profile
 
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Super router. I push much more than that and get 0% as well. Sometimes I hit 1%
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I am about to order one but I had question about port/cpu. The router I am contemplating replacing currently only has ports in use. Wan/Lan, the lan port terminates 20 or so vlans in the building (router on a stick type config) with 1 vlan going to ospf distribution routers for other buildings.

From what I have seen it looks like the certain cpus are tied to certain ports. Am I wasting resources if I configure a CCR in this same way? I was thinking about possibly dropping fiber from the roof so at least the other buildings are on additional ports.
On Tilera platform CPU allocation happens "behind the scenes" (part of Tilera advantage is that the software does not have to be optimized for parallel processing). That said, certain parts (MT has not revealed which) of ROS are not optimized for the architecture, like L7 filters and use only one CPU. Most likely, if all you do is routing, you'll be able to push 1Gb+1Gb on your LAN port.
You have to program parallel to get parallel execution. Some parallel environments help distribute processes and memory afinities but you have to take care. Dont expect fast Progress and expect additional instabilities due to more complex code.
its about C/C++-written/based software/firmware/OS behavior - such scalability near impossible.
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My CCR finally arrived yesterday due to some problems in customs office.
Been waiting for it for the last 2 weeks.
I've been getting 150k/pps syn flood attacks recently. Let's see how my new CCR deals with them.
Normally my overclocked RB1100's die instantly before I can null route attacked ips.100% CPU and nothing works.
I wonder how my new CCR deals with the same kind of attack.
This is the first time I am waiting for an attack with such excitement.
and No I don't need any test attacks to my network :D
My attacker will do it sooner or later anyway ...
Any update?

We suffer ddos attack recently on our RB1100AH / RB1200 and is looking for CCR to see if upgrade the router will help
 
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Any update?

We suffer ddos attack recently on our RB1100AH / RB1200 and is looking for CCR to see if upgrade the router will help
Hey
there are no updates.
My older rb1100 was around %20 load with normal operation
CCR is %0
Everything is the same as the rb1100 , rules , queue, firewall etc.
I did not get any attacks for the last couple of days. So I really don't have any chance to test CCR performance under attack.
I did tried to compile the damn juno.c code on my own to perform some real tests.
But I did not managed to do it :D

So basically there are no updates. CCR looking good. And performing %99.2 idle at the moment.
If I will have some time to figure out how to compile the juno code this weekend, maybe I myself will try to take my CCR down :)
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Any update?

We suffer ddos attack recently on our RB1100AH / RB1200 and is looking for CCR to see if upgrade the router will help
Hey
there are no updates.
My older rb1100 was around %20 load with normal operation
CCR is %0
Everything is the same as the rb1100 , rules , queue, firewall etc.
I did not get any attacks for the last couple of days. So I really don't have any chance to test CCR performance under attack.
I did tried to compile the damn juno.c code on my own to perform some real tests.
But I did not managed to do it :D

So basically there are no updates. CCR looking good. And performing %99.2 idle at the moment.
If I will have some time to figure out how to compile the juno code this weekend, maybe I myself will try to take my CCR down :)
All for educational purposes....

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Does any one use CCR for PPPoE server with dynamic simple queues? Please share your experience how many ppp connection, how many queue rules, firewall rules? CPU performance? Any reboot issue?
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Today i replaced my router x86-PC (Core i5 2500K 3.3Ghz) who worked as NAS server to CCR1036-12G-4S

At first everything was fine. As soon as the number of VPN became more than 500-600 pc`s and traffic exceeded 250 Mbit/s the strange things began to happen:
- Interfaces - Ethernet was empty. Within 30 minutes the interfaces was appear then disappear, and the system is works normal.
- LCD display hang
- On the PPP Interface is displayed 2 - 15 vpn sessions, while on the PPP - Active connections appear all.
- In an hour from the beginning of the work sounded a double beep when loading, but the system does not rebooting and after that radius stopped working normally. (Customers takes the same IP address, some could not authenticate, etc...)

The impression is that Winbox and LCD "has no time to show what happens in the router")
 
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Of course.
 
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My CCR1036-12G-4S ~ v6.0rc7 (download on 11/1/2013)
can't get the fan speed by following command in NEW TERMINAL
/system health print

But my friend's CCR with same hardware and v6.0rc6/v6.0rc7 can do.

What's wrong?
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My CCR1036-12G-4S ~ v6.0rc6
can't get the fan speed by following command in NEW TERMINAL
/system health print

But my friend's CCR with same hardware and v6.0rc6 can do.

What's wrong?
[admin@MikroTik] > /system health print
fan-mode: auto
use-fan: main
cpu-overtemp-check: yes
cpu-overtemp-threshold: 100C
cpu-overtemp-startup-delay: 1m
active-fan: main
voltage: 24.1V
current: 1434mA
temperature: 42C
cpu-temperature: 52C
power-consumption: 34.4W
[admin@MikroTik] >
 
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Of course.
builds are released every few hours, you might want to re-download the file.
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Yesterday, I received brand new CCR for testing from friend of mine. So, after loading backup (I mean configuring it to work as previous mikrotik router) I just plugged it into company's backbone. And it happened again, as previous x86 machine, mighty CCR wasn't been able to handle 800 pppoe sessions and simple queues, somehow clients has internet working but I'm not able to see any interfaces in winbox and telnet interface. Addresses and queues are assigned to unknown ;)
After that I decided to upgrade my backbone to more professional equipment...
 
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I tried the new version 7, and I have the following problem with the bonding interfaces.

2 bond with 4 ports on the other side is a Cisco portchanel.
At one bond interface vlan got up with an IP address. -Vlan and IP address are not achievable nor telnet, or a mac-telnet.

Once you disable the interface bond and solve several router crashes and shows all interfaces and disable then re-solve not see any interface. Router defies the command reboot, shutdown i etc.

P.S. I had the same problem with version 6.ll the interfaces after repeated bans

I have the same problem as "turgon".

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In the "Queue Tree" if i set parent "global" dramatically increases delays in all directions. Also increases the CPU load.

On the screenshot running ping from one interface to another.

If i disable rules all returns to normal - ping became 0 - 1 ms.
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My CCR1036-12G-4S ~ v6.0rc6
can't get the fan speed by following command in NEW TERMINAL
/system health print

But my friend's CCR with same hardware and v6.0rc6 can do.

What's wrong?
[admin@MikroTik] > /system health print
fan-mode: auto
use-fan: main
cpu-overtemp-check: yes
cpu-overtemp-threshold: 100C
cpu-overtemp-startup-delay: 1m
active-fan: main
voltage: 24.1V
current: 1434mA
temperature: 42C
cpu-temperature: 52C
power-consumption: 34.4W
[admin@MikroTik] >
Looks like different hardware. Fan running but lcd display show 0 rpm.
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I've been reading over the review of the CCR and i'm looking at the 16Core and wondering how stable are they on RC7?
We have a need for a router to do alot of nat/conntracking and traffic shaping/Vpn's and it's a CCR or a 1100AH2.
While the 1100 is a good device compared to the CCR specs are very different and money doesn't change much however we will need something stable as I can't be rebooting this device every few hours.
I guess what I really need to know is is the CCR stuff ready for production and if it's just a case that ROS6 is the issue it's a shame it can't be downgraded to stable 5.x
 
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The device is new. Still in devel...that's why this is a RC version of ROs...so we need to help MKT to fix software issue...I m sure at the end this will be a good one...

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...I m sure at the end this will be a good one...
+ 1
at the end..... everyone of us will be dead.

So I prefer it will be good earlier.

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Ticket #2013011266000104

Its been more than 3 days I have sent a supout file from one of the latest RC7 pre builds for the "fake reboot" bug for CCR to Mikrotik support to be able to spot the bug.

Noone replied back whether the issue is found or not. I guess is it solved or what ?

BUG#2

RB800 + RB616 loaded with RC6. When you click on interfaces>ethernet from winbox, winbox quits and auto-supout file is created ! sometimes router hangs !

Could you able to reproduce these ? MT Team ?
 
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Of course.
builds are released every few hours, you might want to re-download the file.
Does it means that size of the downloaded file will be different when new build is released?
I downloaded the file routeros-tile-6.0rc7.npk 11.01.2013, 12.01, 13.01 and the size of their equal.
 
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Does it means that size of the downloaded file will be different when new build is released?

Check file hash (MD5 or SHA1) instead of size.

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What are you interested in testing in rc7? Seems a bit more stable than rc6.

Also will disabling wireless and hotspot packages on a CCR affect anything?
 
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LCD not connected after RC7 upgrade...
any news?

thanks
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LCD not connected after RC7 upgrade...
any news?

thanks
Same here. It is stuck on loading kernel screen. But everything appears to be working, its not actually stuck loading the kernel. Trying the /lcd menu it says the LCD is not connected.
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Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:32 am

LCD error after last update! Before this lcd works fine.
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:25 pm

LCD is working for me on rc7
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:13 pm

There is a lot of builds rc7. Try latest from: 2013-01-16 12:22:49
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Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:56 pm

last build, LCD still not work... and frequently reboot
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Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:31 pm

last build, LCD still not work... and frequently reboot
Configuration reset is needed to start LCD working again. Few previous v6.0rc7 builds had LCD problems and simple upgrade to the latest build cannot fix it.
 
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Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:48 pm

I reset the config with /system reset-configuration and no joy. I installed the build from 12:22:49 today and the LCD shows "starting services" instead of "loading kernel". Still getting "lcd is not connected" when trying to enable it from the CLI.
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:43 pm

normis, is there any indication of when Metarouter will be supported on multi core routers? Or if this is even coming?
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Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:04 pm

LCD RC7
Solved with reset configuration then restore previous backup....

thanks and I hope to see a new Ros Stable RC8
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:11 pm

The RC6 not working the console port . I can not change the baudrate other value, only one rate(38400) accepted.
All other vale have erorr massage :
"specified port speed is not supported on this port"
(I like change the baud rate to 9600, console port connected the cisco 3400me console )

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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:46 pm

We have problem with our CCR1036 bridge function. It's slightly different issue than what has been already discussed here in this topic by sx10 or by midsizewisp. There is only one rstp bridge is defined in our router with 6 ports: ether1, ether3, ether10, ether11, sfp3, sfp4. Currently only the ether ports are used. When the problem occurs, the IP traffic stops on 3 out of 4 used bridge port (everytime the same 3 ports fail). Disabling and reenabling the bridge can solve the problem. We experienced this about 3 or 4 times a day with RC6 and RC7. (It might be this happens slightly less with the RC7...)
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:01 am

where can i get a 64bit ROS for my x86
 
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Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:46 am

Deleted because not related.
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Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:55 am

I know :P it was a hint! make me one ! stat!
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:29 pm

Hi guys.

I've been working with a PC (x86) box using RouterOS to do QoS for my clients, mainly bandwith allocation to my customers... I have ~1200 queue tree rules and almost the same qty of firewall mangle rules (for packet marks). I mark the packets only by IP address/network for upload and download stream. Connection Tracking is enabled so mangle rules can work. The machine acts as a bridge.

Also this machine has some firewall filter rules to protect itself and to block some clients when needed.

The specs of the machine are the following:

Intel Pentium Dual Core 3 GHz
2 Gb RAM
2 NICs FastEthernet (3Com)

The operating system is installed on a CF card and attached to the machine with an CF-IDE adapter.

The machine manages 70-80 Mbps of traffic almost permanently and manages ~10000 pps.

The performance of the machine is great: 45% CPU load, 60 Mb of memory used.

I've tried to change this machine before and tested the following mikrotik hardware without success:

RB1000, RB1100, RB1100x2, RB1200.... none of these worked well with this configuration.. the CPU load was at 100% for them and I couldn't work well.

I'd like to change this machine again, and I'm thinking about the CCR 16 cores to do it.... what would you recommend??? is this machine powerfull enough to handle my current traffic and let me grow and grow and grow as time passes??? What makes me think a bit about the change is that this CCR only has 1.2 GHz of CPU speed...

I'd really appreciate your comments and suggestions...

Thanks and best regards.

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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:34 pm

We went from an Intel Q9300 to the CCR 32, previously on the Q9300 our cpu load was 26% cpu at 120mbps/220mbps on 5.6 x86 using Intel NICS, after upgrading to the CCR-36, our router is at 1-2% for the same 360mbps of combined bandwidth (up/down). This 64 bit CCR 36 is definitely quite more powerful than running newer Intel processors at x86. I would imagine you will see the same results with a CCR 16
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Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:31 pm

Thanks for your answer @brianlewis... I'd like to know if you have some mangle and packet shaping configuration (queue trees) on this box as this is the bottleneck of my system. I have two other boxes (1 RB1000 and 1 RB1200) that only do routing stuff and they handle the same traffic as the x86 box and they work great with CPU load in 10% max. So, the problem I have is not the amount of traffic itself, but the mangle rules and traffic shaping that I'm doing with the box,.... Do you or anybody else have this CCR routers doing this kind of stuff???

Thanks for your answers... best regards.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:31 am

I'm running 500mbit constantly through mine with around 8 queues and various rules... similar results for cpu usage.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:41 am

Thanks for your answer @brianlewis... I'd like to know if you have some mangle and packet shaping configuration (queue trees) on this box as this is the bottleneck of my system. I have two other boxes (1 RB1000 and 1 RB1200) that only do routing stuff and they handle the same traffic as the x86 box and they work great with CPU load in 10% max. So, the problem I have is not the amount of traffic itself, but the mangle rules and traffic shaping that I'm doing with the box,.... Do you or anybody else have this CCR routers doing this kind of stuff???

Thanks for your answers... best regards.
Like yourself I have a similar situation for our core routers. We have large amount of queue/mange/firewall. I have never had a problem moving 300-400 Mbps through a RB1200AHx2 but when I slap 1000 queues, and a few hundred mangle/firewall rules the CPU just can't keep up, and our x86 based RouterOS machines pull way ahead.

I really would like a few sets of Mikrotik supplied configs. Maybe a light one with 25 queues/25 mange rules/25 firewall rules, and have a medium 100 of each and a stressful config with a 1000 of each. This way it would be easy to compare apples to apples. Load the desired Mikrotik config, run traffic generator through the unit being tested using RBs on either side, and then we'd have a good set of performance metrics to compare. Until then it just seems like guess work on how these CCR units will compare to current x86 units many of us use.

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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:43 am

Is anyone currently using the latest rc7 build? My current rc7 build (jan 14th) works great. Just worried about upgrading now :D
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:56 pm

get latest build from place you got your current one. There are a lot of changes done since 14th of January

and we have not experienced any problems with upgrade on CCR (or any other arch)
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:29 pm

FYI, the latest build for today fixed the LCD not being connected after I reenabled it. I also haven't installed a build since the 16th. It could have been fixed somewhere in between.
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:15 pm

When connecting more than 300-400 PPP session lost interfaces.
And are not responsible SNMP protocol.
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Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:50 pm

I wanted to add why it spread the load on the core?
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Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:25 pm

Is anyone currently using the latest rc7 build? My current rc7 build (jan 14th) works great. Just worried about upgrading now :D
The official RC7 is working great, so far I haven't had any more "router was rebooted" messages.
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:21 pm

I just upgraded CCR on latest rc7 version which i downloaded from official download link. After upgrade status of ports 1,2,3,4 is running and link ok even there's nothing connected on those ports. After that I downgraded CCR on rc7 which I downloaded 5 - 6 days ago and everything get back to normal as about ports.
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:35 pm

Does it means that size of the downloaded file will be different when new build is released?
I downloaded the file routeros-tile-6.0rc7.npk 11.01.2013, 12.01, 13.01 and the size of their equal.
If you click on them once you uploaded to your device, you will see the build date.
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:39 am

I have Routherboard AHx2 and CCR 1036. The AHx2 great work version v5.21 when upgrate to v6.0RC7 dhcp server work not correct.
When ubnt NS 5M reboot send ip addres 192.168.1.20.
CCR v6.0RC7 server dhcp send ip addres 10.1.1.171 and stil have status offered.
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:02 am

ccr1016 is good
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Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:49 pm

CCR1036-12G-4S is good, but it restarts every few hours, it not good .
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Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:15 pm

To mikrotik support. I can give log flow to your log srver in real time, maybe it will help you fix this problem.
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:21 pm

CCR1036-12G-4S is good, but it restarts every few hours, it not good .
I still do not like the TX Drops and RX Drops reported by your screen shot.
I think there are a lot of problems and it is more like an early alpha then an RC.

They used to call it RC beacuse they push the tests to us but it could be an MT task and not a cusotmers' task.

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Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:38 pm

Remove this and the following message.
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Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:40 pm

Why not publish my two yesterday's post? In general, this problem has already been described above, but it has not decided to RC7.
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:04 pm

The TX and RX drops were addressed here.

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 50#p349045
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Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:23 pm

Max ambient temperature 50C @1.2Ghz; 70C @1Ghz CPU core frequency
this information from here http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-12G-4S . In my device temperature up to 55-60C. Maybe this is why it reboots ?
Now i plug coolers directly to power supply , so that they were constantly turned on. Temperature now is above 27-30C. Will see.
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:15 pm

Max ambient temperature 50C @1.2Ghz; 70C @1Ghz CPU core frequency
I guess this is ambient temperature, not CPU temperature which usually it's higher.
 
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Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:48 am

Max ambient temperature 50C @1.2Ghz; 70C @1Ghz CPU core frequency
this information from here http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-12G-4S . In my device temperature up to 55-60C. Maybe this is why it reboots ?
Now i plug coolers directly to power supply , so that they were constantly turned on. Temperature now is above 27-30C. Will see.
Hi, yurkou!
How does the CCR after the temperature change?
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:56 am

now 7 hours no more reboots. Will see.
 
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Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:39 am

2 weeks of operation CCR once hung, while the minimum load.
The device have simply terrifying, noisy cooling. Was it really hard to install good-quiet fans, not Chinese ones?

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