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Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:44 pm

It is possible make rb2011 with wifi and Rackmount case?

We have a lot of customers who need it ...
Or start selling separate rackmount case.

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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:42 pm

what is the use case for a rack-mountable wireless router?
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:39 pm

Putting a wireless device in a metallic rack is not very useful.
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:44 pm

Putting a wireless device in a metallic rack is not very useful.
I never really understood why people do that. The other day at site I found an access point inside of a grounded rack...

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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:41 pm

what is the use case for a rack-mountable wireless router?
Many companies have patch panels in the center of each corridor, a wireless Cloud Router Switch would be great. New modern houses also has patch panels, where a rackmount unit with wireless would be good. All rackmounted units cost $10 less than the modell with wireless, I would be happy to pay extra for a wireless option in the following products.

CRS125-24G-1S-RM
RB2011UiAS-RM
CRS226-24G-2S+RM
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:46 pm

what is the use case for a rack-mountable wireless router?
Hi Janisk. Thanks for reply.
A lot of our customers (and small Business) have in home rack. In rack is rb2011UiAS-RM and on rack (outside) is wifi TPlink, Asus, atc...
Customers want to have everything in one device...

rb2011UiAS-2HnD have mmcx connectors inside.

with pigtail - http://www.i4wifi.eu/en/By-Brand-Manufa ... ngled.html
and antenna http://pimages.solidsignal.com/TL-ANT2408C_medlrg.jpg
Ideal solution - all in one :)

If you make RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM with rsma on the back (without antenna), then is possibility have router in rack and wifi antenna on the top of rack.

It is possible that we will see RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM in the future? If not, please start selling separate rackmount case
Thanks!
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:59 pm

If not, please start selling separate rackmount case
Thanks!
At todays times I was really long time not hearing anything about those
wishes, but before a long time many peoples, like @honzam where asking
for those cases, but I really know only one company who was producing
one case such as @honzam is looking for! But I am sorry not for the MikroTik
RB2011 series because of the long time ago those cases where sought after.

Link: 19" Case
@honzam please click on the image and you will be able to see the antenna holes
on the back site (rear) you are able to click out only the metal shape and the hole
is opened.

Link: Antenna holder with magnetic foot for a better outside antenna placement of the rack

Compatible boards:

PC Engines Boards
ALIX.2D0
ALIX.2D1/2D5
ALIX.2D2
ALIX.3D2
ALIX.3D3
ALIX.2D13
ALIX.6E1 /6E2 /6F2
ALIX.2D19

MikroTik RouterBOARDs
411, 411U, 411AR, 411AH, 411UAHR
433, 433AH, 433UAH
450, 450G
493, 493AH, 493G
800

Ok, as I told first it is not done for the RB2011 series but with a RB493AH or RB493G
and a miniPCI WiFi card you will be get also a really fine running WiFi router in a 19" case.

Please don´t forget you are buying the 19" case and the mounting plates for each board
must be bought separately and exact matching the board you want to drive in.
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:05 pm

+1
home user - having switch and 2 NAS in rack and RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN on it,... ... RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM would be definitely preferred solution.
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:41 pm

I would be happy to pay extra for a wireless option in the following products.

CRS125-24G-1S-RM
RB2011UiAS-RM
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:53 pm

All rackmounted units cost $10 less than the modell with wireless, I would be happy to pay extra for a wireless option in the following products.

CRS125-24G-1S-RM
RB2011UiAS-RM
CRS226-24G-2S+RM
If each new RouterBoard will be sorted with an ordinary miniPCIe slot
with support for mSATA, Modem and WiFi each of us will be able to
fit his own and different needs and it dosen´t matter what kind of
needs or interests we all have.

In this situation honzam only needs to insert a Ubiquiti wireless miniPCie card
and all will be running smooth the next one needs hard log file storage space
and insert a mSATA and the next one needs a modem line to the Router and
adds a modem, so I am really interested what should be the entire cost
of an miniPCIe slot with SIM slot on each new RouterBoard?

Anny comments or suggestions?
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:09 pm

Well. We can stop ask for new functions. Or mikrotik can produce some kind of jigsaw puzzle some "lego" or something like arduino - but for network... the question is if there can be sold enough pieces in order to pay for development.

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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:11 pm

I guess it is good that everyone can ask for everything and mikrotik will produce whatever they would like.

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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:56 am

What bothers me is that the circuit boards are identical, except that the rack-mounted products lacks some semiconductors. Why not assemble all semiconductors on every products and let the customer decide if he needs it?
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:14 am

Any comment from MT?
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:12 pm

hi,

i have bought a
CRS125-24G-1S-2HnD-IN and a
CRS125-24G-1S-RM, changed the boards, added 2 pigtail and magnetic antennas outside the rack.

now i have a
CRS125-24G-1S-2HnD-RM and a
CRS125-24G-1S-IN.

mikrotik should sell the cases and boards separately.
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:45 am

Yes. This is the solution. Buy two if you need one and switch them. I have already written on this forum that some kind of jgsaw puzzle like arduino would be nice to have from mikrotik.

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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:56 am

hi,

i have bought a
CRS125-24G-1S-2HnD-IN and a
CRS125-24G-1S-RM, changed the boards, added 2 pigtail and magnetic antennas outside the rack.

now i have a
CRS125-24G-1S-2HnD-RM and a
CRS125-24G-1S-IN.

mikrotik should sell the cases and boards separately.
Thanks. That's exactly what I'm talking about all the time :)
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:09 pm

Any news?
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:04 pm

It better an cheaper to put a 951UI (dual chain wifi) on top of the rack and power it from ether 10 ....

I don't get the point of placing wifi inside a rack .... or work with coax cables ....
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:32 pm

It better an cheaper to put a 951UI (dual chain wifi) on top of the rack and power it from ether 10 ....

I don't get the point of placing wifi inside a rack .... or work with coax cables ....
No, One device is better then 2devices.
Rb2011 or rackmout CRS125 with wifi is better solution. Coax cable is short for this purposes...
See photo http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 11#p417912
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:40 am

It better an cheaper to put a 951UI (dual chain wifi) on top of the rack and power it from ether 10 ....
I don't get the point of placing wifi inside a rack .... or work with coax cables ....
This would also be a solution, but not really matching and fitting it really as
hozam and others need it or in what direction this was meant.
No, One device is better then 2devices.
Rb2011 or rackmout CRS125 with wifi is better solution.
I want to go one step ahead on this, and if all new RouterBoards will
be assembled with one miniPCIe slot + SIM, ready to support mSATA, modem
or a WiFi card each of us could be able to set up what he want.
- mSATA for log file storage or a large user database
- modem for connect from far far away or alarm over SMS
- WiFi card for easy connect to the device or a better integration in existing networks

I don´t really know what is the price for a miniPCIe + SIM slot on each device
but I want to be willing to pay more for a like this given option. :D
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:59 am

Kids these days are spoiled by their 4 post rack cabinets...

Rack does not have to mean a metal cabinet. I have a 19" two post relay rack for my network and server gear at the house. My current RB951 AP is sitting on a shelf 2U below the 48 port patch panel and above the Atom based server. I have good RF coverage with the power turned down to reasonable levels. A CRS is on my personal wish list.

It is also not uncommon to mount something like these in small offices and homes: http://www.google.com/search?q=2u+wall+mount+rack

A patch panel and a CRS with wifi could be all you need for sites with 24 or fewer wired devices. A unit with rack ears would be more tidy in that type of environment. It's not a deal breaker, we can still wall mount something.

We currently mount 2011s inside the steel cabinets at our tower sites so that we don't have to leave the cabinet open in the rain while we trouble-shoot. With the power set to 8db, it works well enough in our trucks parked within 5 meters of the cabinet, and doesn't interfere with the sectors mounted 20 to 50 meters above.

So, while you may think an AP in your rack cabinet is a dumb idea, there are a lot of situations where a rack mountable all in one networking device like the CRS can be useful.

The question is: Are there are enough situations where a rackmount CRS with wireless is needed to support the extra cost of MikroTik building, and distributors stocking, that product?

I have about 50 clients where that product would be an excellent fit. Unfortunately, they all upgraded to Gigabit switches 2 years ago and are not unhappy with their Zywall/Linksys/Cisco ASA/NetGear/D-Link routers. So, it's not like I would be placing an order for 50 units tomorrow if the product did exist. I would have bought two units for remote branches of a local health care clinic in the last month, had it existed. We installed the desktop model instead. Not as clean, but it worked.
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:13 am

So, while you may think an AP in your rack cabinet is a dumb idea, there are a lot of situations where a rack mountable all in one networking device like the CRS can be useful.
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:02 pm

I would love that too.

I have some clients that have wall-mount open rack and it could be usefull.

(not that one, but just to give an idea)
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Having a "all-in-one" option is really usefull for most clients.

Right now, I'm using RB951G-2HnD with a separate "cheap" switch or installing a tablet on the top of the rack to place the CRS125-24G-1S-2HnD-IN
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:03 pm

Comment please from Mikrotik
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:21 am

Yes, yes, its 2020 and I am replying. Frustrated (again) that I cannot find a 2011 or similar MT rackmount with wireless. Yes, its going in a metal rack, but its for equipment support in the data center/radio repeater site while we are in front of the rack. Plenty of 2.4 GHz energy getting out of the racks cracks, etc. The latest laptops do not come with an Ethernet port, without possibly buying a separate proprietary interface cable.

Yes - I can but one of those cheesy POE/Ethernet/802.11 access points, but now I have to learn yet another product to configure and maintain.

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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:25 am

I have my Airport in a sliding 1U rack shelf together with some other things.

I will replace it and my desktop RB2011 with a single desktop unit in the future and it will go in the same shelf.

So it is important to still be able to "flatten" the antennas when there are many, not everybody needs full range.

Rack mount versions of this kind of devices are a waste of space.

I will avoid rack mount as long as a desktop version with enough ports could be smaller.

I now saw a cheaper drawer than the one I have: 26 euro (neither would be deep enough to be installed in a server rack: 360-480mm).

There are many modern laptops with Ethernet (down to 12mm thick), as well as standard adapters.

The thinnest laptops are 9mm.
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:49 pm

Yes, yes, its 2020 and I am replying. Frustrated (again) that I cannot find a 2011 or similar MT rackmount with wireless. Yes, its going in a metal rack, but its for equipment support in the data center/radio repeater site while we are in front of the rack. Plenty of 2.4 GHz energy getting out of the racks cracks, etc. The latest laptops do not come with an Ethernet port, without possibly buying a separate proprietary interface cable.

Yes - I can but one of those cheesy POE/Ethernet/802.11 access points, but now I have to learn yet another product to configure and maintain.

Greg
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A mAP lite would work for your laptop situation -
https://mikrotik.com/product/RBmAPL-2nD
Power it from your laptop USB or from a port on the facility POE switch.
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:56 pm

The RB4011 is very similar, and comes with Rack Mount adapters
 
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Re: Wish - RB2011UiAS-2HnD-RM ?

Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:02 pm

I think that kind of solution works best for everybody:

- Fewer costs because of less development and simplified inventory
- You don't need to buy a shelf if you have space in your rack
- You can fix it if the rack is mobile or for tidier cabling
- If you want small you got it.

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