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Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:24 pm

Discusion and info about new product DynaDish 5
Suggested price - $179

http://routerboard.com/RBDynaDishG-5HacD
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:40 pm

It looks ok.

+1 for version with SFP and DC JACK
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri May 01, 2015 8:27 am

We are waiting for it, when will be available?
Good move, the 802.3af/at POE, but the power supply is only for home users.
For a serious stabile link, I would use a 48V 1,6A power supply, no?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Sat May 02, 2015 12:04 am

Interesting but expensive, should be higher gain as 23dBi is too low for suggested price, higher gain is what I am looking for as there is very dish antennas on the market with around 27dBi gain, loads at 30dBi and higher.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon May 04, 2015 5:49 pm

There is only client version? no AP?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon May 04, 2015 6:03 pm

License = L3, it can be used as CPE (client) or PTP (one end as CPE, the other in bridge mode, same as AP mode with just 1 client)
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:46 pm

Where is the DynaDish?

Has it been delayed? My supplier said the date has been pushed back to due manufacturing issues... ;(

Mikrotik can you confirm?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:17 am

Nothing?

1 month? 2 months?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:01 pm

From routerboard.com
PoE in Passive PoE or 802.3at (only unshielded cable)
Unshielded cable with outdoor device?
Mikrotik, why?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:03 pm

From routerboard.com
PoE in Passive PoE or 802.3at (only unshielded cable)
Unshielded cable with outdoor device?
Mikrotik, why?
It was either this, or remove it from specifications altogether. This way, at least maybe somebody benefits from such option.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:23 pm

Something wrong with the design ?

some people like to know why it is not possible with shielding.

If we don't use shielding al our links would-be running @ 10 mbit half duplex
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:15 am

It was either this, or remove it from specifications altogether. This way, at least maybe somebody benefits from such option.
Do you mean unshielded cable required only for 802.3at POE?

There's no such restriction when using passive POE?
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:12 am

Yes, of course.

It works fine with Shielded cable if you don't need 802.3af
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:15 pm

can you tell what is wrong in the design ?

it must be something between power lines and ground

can we use 48V passive POE ?
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:16 pm

Like I already said, you can use passive PoE with any cable, and 802.3af with unshielded cable. Provided Voltage range is correct for any PoE
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:45 am

what is the weight?
is it 23 od 25dBi?

what has better antenna for ptp links? qrt5ac or dynadish ac?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:32 pm

normis, when you expect a cheap QRT5 AC with license level 3 :)?

Why this product is so expensive? in comparison with other
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:54 am

QRT is a very high quality 802.11ac device with a good antenna and a professional mount. It is not low end home product.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:08 pm

What happen when we connect shielded cable using 802.3af poe?
QRT is a very high quality 802.11ac device with a good antenna and a professional mount. It is not low end home product.
QRT is almost three times more expensive than SXT Lite5. If QRT is "very high quality" please made something like QRT Lite5 for distant clients.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:10 pm

SXT and QRT should not be compared, the SXT is also much smaller and has much smaller antenna gain. What are you saying exactly?

There is a product for every distance/price category. Choose according to your needs.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:11 pm

What happen when we connect shielded cable using 802.3af poe?
DynaDish will not power on.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:34 pm

SXT and QRT should not be compared, the SXT is also much smaller and has much smaller antenna gain. What are you saying exactly?

There is a product for every distance/price category. Choose according to your needs.
No, there is not. Normis look at ubiquiti products. They have "product for every distance/price category". We need something like nanobeam NanoBeam M5-300 and M5-400 in the same prices. You don't have products with 22dBi and 25dBi gain in these price.
This is not just my opinion. Many times forum users please you about products like these.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:47 pm

SXT and QRT should not be compared, the SXT is also much smaller and has much smaller antenna gain. What are you saying exactly?

There is a product for every distance/price category. Choose according to your needs.
No, there is not. Normis look at ubiquiti products. They have "product for every distance/price category". We need something like nanobeam NanoBeam M5-300 and M5-400 in the same prices. You don't have products with 22dBi and 25dBi gain in these price.
This is not just my opinion. Many times forum users please you about products like these.
SXT Lite5, 16dBi , 59$
SXT 5, 16dBi higher output, 89$
SXT HG5 17dBi, 95$
SEXTANT G 5HPnD, 18dBi, 119$

and more products will be announced this year, new categories coming!
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:37 pm

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and more products will be announced this year, new categories coming!
Thank you for answer, Normis. You give me hope :)
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:22 am

When we can expect first pieces?
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:46 pm

Very nice reset button :lol:
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:18 pm

Would be better with L4 license.
Using it as a CPE for "home users" is just overkill.
The same goes for QRT-5 and QRT-5 ac (which both have L4 license and we are
using QRT-5 as APs for medium range p2mp connections).

Mikrotik, please make cheap 5GHz high gain CPE unit, SEXTANT is neither cheap (for what it is)
nor a high gain device (just 2dBi higher than SXT Lite5).
We need 22-25dBi CPE under $100 price (even single pol device 1x1 would be excellent for the right price).
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:58 am

Normis, any news on the DynaDishes?

Distributors here in South Africa say they are waiting on ETA's from Mikrotik?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:34 pm

[...]
and more products will be announced this year, new categories coming!
Thank you for answer, Normis. You give me hope :)
Almost all ISPs from Poland waiting for CPE with 22-25 dBi antennas from Mikrotik :)
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:00 am

Almost all ISPs from Poland waiting for CPE with 22-25 dBi antennas from Mikrotik :)
more dBi means bigger antenna
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:38 pm

Almost all ISPs from Poland waiting for CPE with 22-25 dBi antennas from Mikrotik :)
more dBi means bigger antenna
300-400mm, no problem.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:37 pm

Almost all ISPs from Poland waiting for CPE with 22-25 dBi antennas from Mikrotik :)
more dBi means bigger antenna
300-400mm, no problem.
Yes 300-400mm is no problem.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:49 pm

DynaDish is for you then. 400mm diameter, 25dBi gain.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:34 am

DynaDish is for you then. 400mm diameter, 25dBi gain.
Dear Normis,
for a less than 1/2 of DynaDish's price we are assembling Mikrotik
based 23dBi 1x1 5GHz CPE unit (with third-party single-pol antenna).

I'm sure you could do it better in the same price range and still make a decent profit.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:27 am

DynaDish is for you then. 400mm diameter, 25dBi gain.
Dear Normis,
for a less than 1/2 of DynaDish's price we are assembling Mikrotik
based 23dBi 1x1 5GHz CPE unit (with third-party single-pol antenna).

I'm sure you could do it better in the same price range and still make a decent profit.
Your assembly workers do it for free?
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:28 pm

DynaDish is for you then. 400mm diameter, 25dBi gain.
Dear Normis,
for a less than 1/2 of DynaDish's price we are assembling Mikrotik
based 23dBi 1x1 5GHz CPE unit (with third-party single-pol antenna).

I'm sure you could do it better in the same price range and still make a decent profit.
Your assembly workers do it for free?
No they don't work for free, we're paying our workforce :) .
But we do need just about 100pcs a month so it's not too much to handle - it takes about
10 minutes per 1 CPE and our crews are completing them just before installation at costumer site.

It is for our home-users who are too far away for regular SXTs.
So, we're not reselling those CPEs on open market.
We are in WISP business, mass-manufacturing CPEs (or anything else) isn't something we want to do but
there is nothing like Airgrid with 22-27dBi antenna in your current product line (in "below 100$" price category).

Economic situation is far from great today (especially in my country) and we're simply trying to
minimize costs for us and our less-demanding costumers.
For higher demanding (and paying) services QRT and Dynadish are just fine.

That's all.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:08 pm

+1 for cheap CPE 22-23 dbi version

SXT is super , cheap for 500-700 metres max

SEXTANT hmm - This product is no longer necessary

we need cheap QRT :) L3 licence, 100mbit port is enough, but need 23dbi antena with cheap price 110-120USD
or smaller dynadish (22-23 dbi fi 33cm) 100mbit port L3 licence , and this low price

Total QRT better than DynaDish with standard RB in the middle.
Only do handle suggested simpler and less expensive for QRT such as dynadish
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:19 pm

We have some really exciting stuff for you, coming soon ;) Just follow the news and MUM events.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:34 pm

Thanks. Normis. I am waiting :)
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:29 pm

Where are the DynaDish 5 antenna patterns (vertical / horizontal polarization return loss, vertical / horizontal polarization gain)? At which frequencies DynaDish works the best?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:38 am

https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/litebeam-m5/
you could make something like this. Great price - 50 Eur, great power.very lightweight..but if it was MIMO it would be killer product...so Mikrotik make that killer product....
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:32 am

QRT is a very high quality 802.11ac device with a good antenna and a professional mount. It is not low end home product.
What I don't like with QRT are the sealed screws. I want to upgrade QRT 5 with an .ac board.
Why not ??
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:31 pm

Dynadish 5 ac, Qrt 5 ac wich one to choose for a 6km ptp link, just one dbi difference.

Dynadish 8º QRT5 10.5º both dual pol and same cpu and wifi chip.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:37 pm

The QRT and DynaDish are quite similar.

Same CPU, same ports.

The differences:

- Dynadish has 1 dBi more
- Dynadish is cheaper
- QRT is more compact and flat design
- QRT has L4 license for multipoint support
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:17 pm

Good morning,
We bought 2 DynaDish 5 and on the Lan connector that it work from 24V to 48V. On the Product specifications website are Supported input voltage 11 V - 60 V.
Can you tell us what's the correct information?
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:50 am

DynaDish is for you then. 400mm diameter, 25dBi gain.
Hey Normis. You do know that both the routerboard website (http://routerboard.com/RBDynaDishG-5HacD) and many resellers say these are 23dBi gain antennas don't you?
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:12 am

DynaDish is for you then. 400mm diameter, 25dBi gain.
Hey Normis. You do know that both the routerboard website (http://routerboard.com/RBDynaDishG-5HacD) and many resellers say these are 23dBi gain antennas don't you?
Website and Brochure say 25dBi. Also, our antenna engineers say so, I just asked :)
This means distributor made a mistake.
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:34 am

DynaDish is for you then. 400mm diameter, 25dBi gain.
Hey Normis. You do know that both the routerboard website (http://routerboard.com/RBDynaDishG-5HacD) and many resellers say these are 23dBi gain antennas don't you?
Website and Brochure say 25dBi. Also, our antenna engineers say so, I just asked :)
This means distributor made a mistake.
Strange, I click on the above link and see it says "Antenna gain DBI 23" halfway down the page ;)
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:36 am

Strange, I click on the above link and see it says "Antenna gain DBI 23" halfway down the page ;)
so that's where the confusion came from :) fixed. the description above and the PDF were right though. thanks!
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:39 am

No worries. Looks like some resellers may have just copied and pasted.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:07 pm

Did anyone already tested dynadish against QRT, i need it for 4 km ptp link with maximum speed of 200 mbits full duplex.

I think Dynadish has more wind resistance, but in performance ....
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:22 am

Did anyone already tested dynadish against QRT, i need it for 4 km ptp link with maximum speed of 200 mbits full duplex.

I think Dynadish has more wind resistance, but in performance ....
400Mbps aggregate over 4km?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:02 pm

Sorry, 200 half duplex with AC.

I already have 90 with 2 qrt5.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:51 pm

Almost all ISPs from Poland waiting for CPE with 22-25 dBi antennas from Mikrotik :)
more dBi means bigger antenna
I'm waiting for sth like AirFiber 24Ghz from Mikrotik!

Can you tell me whats the Frequency Range for DynaDish?
 
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:03 am

Almost all ISPs from Poland waiting for CPE with 22-25 dBi antennas from Mikrotik :)
more dBi means bigger antenna
I'm waiting for sth like AirFiber 24Ghz from Mikrotik!

Can you tell me whats the Frequency Range for DynaDish?
Dynadish 5 means Dynadish 5ghz frequency.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:19 am

Dynadish 5 means Dynadish 5ghz frequency.
ohhh come on...

what i ment was the most optimal frequency for this antenna

e.g:
qrt5 - 4.9-5.875 GHz
sextant g - 5.17 - 5.825 GHz
sxt 4920-5920MHz

Do you see the difference?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:47 pm

Dynadish 5 means Dynadish 5ghz frequency.
ohhh come on...

what i ment was the most optimal frequency for this antenna

e.g:
qrt5 - 4.9-5.875 GHz
sextant g - 5.17 - 5.825 GHz
sxt 4920-5920MHz

Do you see the difference?
I don´t see the difference as i can only use from 5400mhz to 5800 mhz outdoor with 30db max.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:03 pm

DynaDish 5 works best at 5.17-5.825 GHz with the center being slightly better
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:08 am

DynaDish 5 works best at 5.17-5.825 GHz with the center being slightly better
what is transmission power of Dynadish 5
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:17 pm

We have some really exciting stuff for you, coming soon ;) Just follow the news and MUM events.
....
Do you know something about cheap QRT5 L3?

We waiting for Mikrotik devices with antenna 20-23 dBi (e.g. Ubiquiti PBE)!!!
 
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Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:06 am

We have some really exciting stuff for you, coming soon ;) Just follow the news and MUM events.
....
Do you know something about cheap QRT5 L3?

We waiting for Mikrotik devices with antenna 20-23 dBi (e.g. Ubiquiti PBE)!!!
Yes, some really cool looking low cost CPE devices are coming soon
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:15 am

This year?
Normis, please write something more.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:18 am

This year?
Normis, please write something more.
very low cost, very good gain, light and nice design. had it in my hands just yesterday :D
I am not sure about the date at the moment.
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Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:30 am

I also want to have it in my hands :D
Thank you for answer and good information.
 
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Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:21 pm

normis,

Thanks for your reply.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:24 am

I have one 6.81km (4.23mi) link going right now. I have had it up for a month or two. I would say that it performs about as well as the rest of our MT BHs. We generally use ARC dual polarity panels in an ARC integrated enclosure with RB922s.

I do like the mount for the DynaDish. The capability to aim the dish but keeping it from slipping down the mount is a plus.

The one issue I am having with it right now is similar to the issues I have with the RB922s, they have a tendency to lock up for no reason at all. While the RB922 is a huge improvement over the RB711s, I don't have this issue with the RB711s.

Other than that, I can see using these more often as the cost to build an ARC IE with a panel and board is much more significant. While they have been really reliable for us, having an all-in-one unit is nice.
 
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Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:51 am

I have one 6.81km (4.23mi) link going right now. I have had it up for a month or two. I would say that it performs about as well as the rest of our MT BHs. We generally use ARC dual polarity panels in an ARC integrated enclosure with RB922s.

I do like the mount for the DynaDish. The capability to aim the dish but keeping it from slipping down the mount is a plus.

The one issue I am having with it right now is similar to the issues I have with the RB922s, they have a tendency to lock up for no reason at all. While the RB922 is a huge improvement over the RB711s, I don't have this issue with the RB711s.

Other than that, I can see using these more often as the cost to build an ARC IE with a panel and board is much more significant. While they have been really reliable for us, having an all-in-one unit is nice.
Can you please specify in more detail about this issue, which RouterOS verision are you using, how the board locks, are you unable to connect the board trough wifi and ether ?
 
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Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:02 am

Can you please specify in more detail about this issue, which RouterOS verision are you using, how the board locks, are you unable to connect the board trough wifi and ether ?
The board stops responding to pings. On the DynaDish, it will stop passing traffic and be non-resposive to anything other than mac-telnet (because I can always access it via mac-telnet, I have not tried). On some of the RB922s, the board will be come unresponsive to pings, no winbox access, but will still pass traffic.

The DynaDish is currently running 3 We experienced this issue starting around 6.26 if I not mistaken.
 
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Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:14 am

Can you please specify in more detail about this issue, which RouterOS verision are you using, how the board locks, are you unable to connect the board trough wifi and ether ?
The board stops responding to pings. On the DynaDish, it will stop passing traffic and be non-resposive to anything other than mac-telnet (because I can always access it via mac-telnet, I have not tried). On some of the RB922s, the board will be come unresponsive to pings, no winbox access, but will still pass traffic.

The DynaDish is currently running 3 We experienced this issue starting around 6.26 if I not mistaken.
It would be very useful if you could repeat this issue on the latest RouterOS, generate the supout file:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Su ... utput_File

And send it to support:
http://www.mikrotik.com/support.html
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:42 pm

It would be very useful if you could repeat this issue on the latest RouterOS, generate the supout file:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Su ... utput_File

And send it to support:
http://www.mikrotik.com/support.html
I apologize, both sides of the link are running 6.32.3. I had a snafu while typing on my mobile last night. They are also running the most current firmware (3.24).

I will try to get the supout information sent in today.
 
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Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:40 pm

I can confirm ethernet problem. ROS 6.33.1. Ethernet not accessable by any service, only visible in neighbors. No access on MAC telnet also. Wireless interface keeps connection. Hard reboot (power cut) returns normal function.

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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:03 am

I can confirm ethernet problem. ROS 6.33.1. Ethernet not accessable by any service, only visible in neighbors. No access on MAC telnet also. Wireless interface keeps connection. Hard reboot (power cut) returns normal function.

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If the wireless interface keeps connection, you should be able to login from either from the router on the far end or the device on the near end. I am going to assume your ether and wlan are bridged and an address is assigned to the bridge. If so, a MAC telnet will not work from the registration table. You need to go to IP > Neighbors and mac-telnet from there. It will work, as this hasn't only happened on the DynaDish5, but also RB922s we use across our network.
 
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Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:54 am

I can confirm ethernet problem. ROS 6.33.1. Ethernet not accessable by any service, only visible in neighbors. No access on MAC telnet also. Wireless interface keeps connection. Hard reboot (power cut) returns normal function.

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If the wireless interface keeps connection, you should be able to login from either from the router on the far end or the device on the near end. I am going to assume your ether and wlan are bridged and an address is assigned to the bridge. If so, a MAC telnet will not work from the registration table. You need to go to IP > Neighbors and mac-telnet from there. It will work, as this hasn't only happened on the DynaDish5, but also RB922s we use across our network.
Even better, enable Tools > RoMON and you'll be able to access, as long as both units are connected.

I would however netinstall and reset to no defaults the units using latest 6.33.5 ,then reload the configuration exports and test.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:46 pm

This year?
Normis, please write something more.
very low cost, very good gain, light and nice design. had it in my hands just yesterday :D
I am not sure about the date at the moment.
Any news about this?
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:14 pm

I would like to know the total EIRP possible . Sure , it has a 25 dBi antenna , but what is the radio power output? Logging into unit and looking at TX power I see 17dB as default. Is that the maximum?
 
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Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:35 pm

I would like to know the total EIRP possible . Sure , it has a 25 dBi antenna , but what is the radio power output? Logging into unit and looking at TX power I see 17dB as default. Is that the maximum?
Maximum Power Levels depend on modulation rates (MCS) according to http://routerboard.com/RBDynaDishG-5HacD

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So maximum is 31dBm, before applying local regulatory restrictions and taking into account antenna gain; PIRE at this MCS would be 54dBm which I doubt is allowed on any country; also if your PTP will only work with these settings, your design and equipment pick is simply not right.

Stop looking at power as the sole criteria to get PTP equipment. Higher power levels also introduce higher distortion and reduces SNR.
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:37 pm

This year?
Normis, please write something more.
very low cost, very good gain, light and nice design. had it in my hands just yesterday :D
I am not sure about the date at the moment.
Some teasing please Normis! Will it be possible to see it at Slovenia MUM? :D
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:49 am

Is there a way to do the 5 sec reset without going up a tower to push the button? I have installed one of these already at 150' and it would not communicate with the mac address software or via IP. The other one had the same issue which I was able to resolve on the ground by performing a 5 sec reset with the button.

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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:04 am

@Marc85: Is it completely unresponsive? Is it linked by wireless to any other equipment?
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:34 am

It's completely unresponsive via mac or IP, the first unit was installed before we realized there was a problem. I am actually the climber who installed it, I took the other dish home with me as an offer of good will to the customer to figure out if I could get it working. And I able to only by performing a 5sec reset, we attempted this onsite but the directions were misread while I was on the tower. After the 5sec reset it showed the default IP of XX....88.1 Is there a way to do this via some ethernet short without climbing up 200'?
 
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Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:49 am

Not that I am aware of... that would certainly be a welcome feature, implementing a "remote reset" signalling it from the ether poe wires.
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Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:37 pm

Ros is able to detect cable length and pair status of pins with many of devices. It should not be so complicated to have a feature in routerboot to check it during the boot process or in ros to check it once per some interval during normal run or so.
 
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5 - verses 922UAGS-5HPacD with external dish

Wed May 04, 2016 9:30 pm

Mikrotik DynaDish 5 - verses 922UAGS-5HPacD with external metal dish

FYI

I had a 12 km link using a DynaDish for both sides of the link. One DynaDish was located about 80 feet up a tower in a high RF noise environment (radio stations & radar & other APs). I experienced the following problems:
A) The POE Ethernet would almost never link at 1-gig. If it did, it would normally fall back to 100 meg full duplex in a few hours or so.
B) I could not get a good link connection rate and decent CCQ (bandwidth test could barely do 100 meg)
C) Lots of back-side noise getting into a DynaDish from other stuff (radio stations & radar & other APs) located behind the rear side of the DynaDish.
D) Lots of noise on the Ethernet
E) No second Ethernet port available.

We replaced both sides of the microwave link with a set of Mikrotik 922UAGS-5HPacD with external dishes. Wow - what a difference !!! Now things are much much much better :)
We now have the following:
A) Ethernet1 POE and SFP1 (with Ethernet SFP) both link at 1-gig
B) We have a link speeds of 650 & 702 with a CCQ in the 90s. I am now able to bandwidth test at 400 meg either way and can hold a solid 200 meg full-duplex (200 up and 200 down at the same time). And one side is not fully aimed correctly yet.
C) The back-side noise is now low and no longer creating link problem.
D) Noise on both Ethernet cables is now gone
E) Ability to use two Ethernet cables with both linked at 1-gig (now I can use spanning-tree on the Ethernet links)

So - in summary, I would suggest using a 922UAGS-5HPacD with external metal dish instead of a DynaDish with the integrated plastic dish.

I suspect the plastic DynaDish lets all kinds of noise leak in from the back-side and also that the front-side plastic reflector is not as good as a metal reflector would be.

So - anyways - now that I have two DynaDish Mikrotiks no longer in use, I am considering spray painting the front-side reflector and the entire back-side of the DynaDish with some kind of a metallic or chrome spray paint -or- getting them plated with a metallic shield. I suspect that metal plating would help reduce back-side noise leakage and also increase the front-side db antenna gain. Has anybody ever tried something like this ?

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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:03 am

Is there a way to do the 5 sec reset without going up a tower to push the button? I have installed one of these already at 150' and it would not communicate with the mac address software or via IP. The other one had the same issue which I was able to resolve on the ground by performing a 5 sec reset with the button.

Thanks

did you find any solution to reset the board without climbing the tower??
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:19 am

When we can expect first pieces?
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Re: Mikrotik DynaDish 5

Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:34 am

That is quite an innovative design.
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