I was excited to hear this, as I always hoped Mikrotik would release a NetMetal2, that would give same TX power, and support AC on 2.4Ghz!

Wrong, it's a single-chain Metal bullet that supports both 2.4/5Ghz, and no AC on the 2.4. What's the point of this? Most things are all going 2x2 now, I didn't expect to see this. I could see the use for a 2x2 model of NetMetal for 2.4Ghz, especially with AC support they would beat UBNT to it, as they are currently working on 2.4Ghz AC products.

Does anyone know if Mikrotik is working on any high-capacity PtP products, or AC on 2.4ghz?


http://routerboard.com/RBMetalG-52SHPacn

I'd really doubt it, why AC for 2.4Ghz?

- Is an already rather crowded spectrum
- Only 60MHz available (only on some countries)

I could understand using lower frequencies for PTPs, with higher energy for LOS obstacle penetration (trees, etc) but there's already 900MHz and 3Ghz bands for that (though not unlicensed).

I was excited to hear this, as I always hoped Mikrotik would release a NetMetal2, that would give same TX power, and support AC on 2.4Ghz!

Wrong, it's a single-chain Metal bullet that supports both 2.4/5Ghz, and no AC on the 2.4. What's the point of this? Most things are all going 2x2 now, I didn't expect to see this. I could see the use for a 2x2 model of NetMetal for 2.4Ghz, especially with AC support they would beat UBNT to it, as they are currently working on 2.4Ghz AC products.

Does anyone know if Mikrotik is working on any high-capacity PtP products, or AC on 2.4ghz?


http://routerboard.com/RBMetalG-52SHPacn

You have problems in understanding 802.11 wireless.
AC standard work only in 5Ghz band because this is the it was invented and will never work in 2.4Ghz.
Also 2x2 mimo on one antenna conector and single chain antenna? Also UBNT 2.4 airfiber is not 802.11.
You should read more stuff about wireless.
Starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac

I was excited to hear this, as I always hoped Mikrotik would release a NetMetal2, that would give same TX power, and support AC on 2.4Ghz!

Wrong, it's a single-chain Metal bullet that supports both 2.4/5Ghz, and no AC on the 2.4. What's the point of this? Most things are all going 2x2 now, I didn't expect to see this. I could see the use for a 2x2 model of NetMetal for 2.4Ghz, especially with AC support they would beat UBNT to it, as they are currently working on 2.4Ghz AC products.

Does anyone know if Mikrotik is working on any high-capacity PtP products, or AC on 2.4ghz?


http://routerboard.com/RBMetalG-52SHPacn

You have problems in understanding 802.11 wireless.
AC standard work only in 5Ghz band because this is the it was invented and will never work in 2.4Ghz.
Also 2x2 mimo on one antenna conector and single chain antenna? Also UBNT 2.4 airfiber is not 802.11.
You should read more stuff about wireless.
Starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac

Actually no, I am very well educated on 802.11 wireless, I'm not just going by what Wikipedia says lol.

First off, AC is more spectral efficient, you can push more throughput from a 10Mhz AC channel than you can with 802.11b/g/n, so that would allow WISP's using 2.4Ghz AP's for customers with LOS issues, to potentially get more throughput out of the SAME channel, or even smaller.

Second, I'm not comparing to the UBNT AirFiber 2.4Ghz, if you read my post I am talking about "currently working on 2.4Ghz AC", which they are in late development stages and will release once the backwards compatibility bugs are worked out on the 5Ghz AC products. It will also have a filtering chip in it, for the 2.4Ghz AC product line. I know AC was only intended for 5Ghz, probably due to the large channel sizes, but they ARE making it, and it will come out, soon.

Third, not sure why you brought up 2x2 MIMO to a single chain antenna? I mentioned they should make a NetMetal2, that supports 2x2 MIMO on 2.4Ghz AC, just like their NetMetal5 but 2.4Ghz version. They already make 2x2 2.4Ghz QRT which is dual-chain, so they could also make QR2AC product for the CPE's.

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Third, not sure why you brought up 2x2 MIMO to a single chain antenna?

Because of your link from the firs post?!
http://routerboard.com/RBMetalG-52SHPacn
Also from the title?
Maybe I get it wrong, english is not my native language.

Third, not sure why you brought up 2x2 MIMO to a single chain antenna?

Because of your link from the firs post?!
http://routerboard.com/RBMetalG-52SHPacn
Also from the title?
Maybe I get it wrong, english is not my native language.

Okay I'll clear things up a little.

"....it's a single-chain Metal bullet that supports both 2.4/5Ghz, and no AC on the 2.4. What's the point of this? Most things are all going 2x2 now, I didn't expect to see this. I could see the use for a 2x2 model of NetMetal for 2.4Ghz, especially with AC support they would beat UBNT to it, as they are currently working on 2.4Ghz AC products"

What I was saying, is that I expected it to be a NetMetal 2x2 device, instead of just the "Metal" products, which are 1x1 only. Like Ubiquiti quit making 1x1 products, and everything is 2x2 now, due to the increase in demand for higher throughput. I was surprised Mikrotik was making any "new" products that are only 1x1, when the need/demand are for 2x2, so that is why I'm a little disappointed in what was revealed.

In short,
Title=New Mikrotik Product!
Message= New exciting 2.4/5Ghz, but on a legacy 1x1 platform, not as exciting anymore, why did they do it like THIS instead of 2x2, like the way things are evolving towards? Was excited, now disappointed

I get it now.
From my point of view 1x1 devices are good because most of us can upgrade some of the clients very easy. Mikrotik still doesn't have 18-27dbi cheap cpe so I have a few antennas with groove's.

From my point of view 1x1 devices are good because most of us can upgrade some of the clients very easy. Mikrotik still doesn't have 18-27dbi cheap cpe so I have a few antennas with groove's.

Inox, not any longer... LHG-5 (24.5dBi) just was announced http://download2.mikrotik.com/news/news_71.pdf to be $59

Hey!

Is it possible to get some technical information about the dual band antenna shipped with the metal 52 ac?

Thanks!