Help with setup

franco · Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:41 pm

Hello,

I have the following scenario.

I have several radio towers which pass the signal of place for place on.
I would like the customer to dial in about pppoe now.
I wanted to use EoIP for it.
How I shall the particular adjust radio towers?
Shall I bridge the interfaces for every station?
Bs 1 is the main radio tower.
There is a PPPOE server and the Internet connection.
Can anybody help me along?
It will dial in approx. 100 - 200 users.

Many thanks

franco · Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:23 pm

nobody can give me an idea?

balimore · Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:52 pm

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hmmmm...
so sorry, when i have plain like your diagram,... maybe i will plain them as AP2AP...
and for now i did do 2 step APs and CPEs with transparant networks for hotspot, pppoe and dedicated line, maybe next... i will add AP when i will expand
anyone else....come..come...come.., please..

regards
Hasbullah.com
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franco · Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:00 pm

BS1 is the Main AP.
this passes the signal on to Bs 2, 4 and 5.
I would like a transparent network, so my idea.
I do not know now whether this idea is good.
on all radio towers apart from BS1 are sector aerials.
These care for the customers.
Understand I this correctly, I must bridges interface if I want to use EoIP?

franco · Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:03 pm

Every customer gets a Routerboard 532.
How I shall this configure?
I mean WLAN1 and ethernet I must bridges, so that the customer can dial in with his computer about pppoe.
Is this correct?

cmit · Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:57 pm

Which is where your problems will start

You cannot bridge a wireless station interface. You'll have to use WDS to achieve this right now.
In RouterOS 3.0 there's a new "wireless station bridge" mode, which would eliminate this problem...

Best regards,
Christian Meis

franco · Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:10 pm

Thanks Cmit.

have I understood it correctly?
Must I all interfaces bridges?
BS2 must run about wds with BS1.
the Sectorantennas at BS2 are just the same in WDS mode.
And the client Routerboard are in WDS mode,too.
Is this correctly?

balimore · Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:09 pm

Thanks Cmit.

have I understood it correctly?
Must I all interfaces bridges?
BS2 must run about wds with BS1.
the Sectorantennas at BS2 are just the same in WDS mode.
And the client Routerboard are in WDS mode,too.
Is this correctly?

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Hai again,
I think is 'Yes' will help you to use WDS and Bridge until end every the Sectors, and clients Routerboard set wireless interface to 'mode=station-wds' than bridge them to end ethernet interface.

regards
Hasbullah.com
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franco · Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:01 pm

For every bridge with the customers equipment an IP must be allocated.
Can one do this also over a DHCP server or is not it advisable?

balimore · Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:44 am

For every bridge with the customers equipment an IP must be allocated.
Can one do this also over a DHCP server or is not it advisable?

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I think is yes...
this my suggestion and i did do it, and with mikrotik you will more flexible as you want.
Here, i used 2 layers [subnet] minimal, one for link networks management, and other authentication network for. until now is work fine.....

again, that is my suggestion for myself and it was OKAY and our Base Mikrotik's-x86 and Hotspot-PPPoE over wire and unwire [AP-2-AP, AP-2-CPE, AP-2-AP-2-AP]. all WDS we used static mode.

Here we used many brand products as CPE, Main AP with RB511 and other APs with Mikrotik too, maybe later we will try to expand with non mikrotik AP. maybe little confuse but we got it.

regards
Hasbullah.com
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franco · Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:14 pm

Thank you.
Can I do this with EoIP instead of WDS?
I think EoIP is the better way, or not?

balimore · Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:05 am

Thank you.
Can I do this with EoIP instead of WDS?
I think EoIP is the better way, or not?

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hello,
i think is yes, when your divices all from Mikrotik's. cos with Mikrotik you will friendly to make config. but here we never use eoip, cause we must manage many products for roam and transparant network.

regards
Hasbullah.com
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freebird · Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:04 am

franco,

WDS and EoIP is not quite the same. Use WDS between PtP antennas
(from BS to next BS) and from Client to Sector antenna (if you like
to). Client to Sektor antenna can be normal AP <-> Client configuration,
too. But you will need to do routing/nating then (see cmit's posting).

After spanning up your BS <-> BS WDS network you can build EoIP
tunnels from one each BS to BS 1.

I would prefer routing between the BS's, others would rather bridge ...

seandsl
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franco · Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:54 pm

I would like to give public IP's to the customers.
With wds bridge about dhcp I assign an IP to the customer equipment.
get the customer also an address assigned by my server?(ethernet side)
I would not like this.
The customer should not be able to access my network at all best.
this is I believe the best for safety reasons.
How I can route with EoIP?
Then must I the WLAN interface and the ethernet interface also bridges that the customer gets a public ip?
I would not like to make nat.

freebird · Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:48 pm

It gets a little bit complicated now, you mix several techniques that
work on different OSI layers and ask if you can use the one or the
other ...

With wds bridge about dhcp I assign an IP to the customer equipment.
get the customer also an address assigned by my server?(ethernet side)
I would not like this.

1. DHCP? I though you will use PPPoE authentification, this works
not exactly like DHCP. You need a DHCP pool and the server assigns
an address from that pool. The client that is doing PPPoE dialin does not
need an IP address in advance/before dialin.

The customer should not be able to access my network at all best.
this is I believe the best for safety reasons.

2. Your internal network can have a different IP range than your
CPE equipment + firewall rules.

How I can route with EoIP?

3. EoIP provides you with a new "device" with it's own ip. You can do
any routing configuration you like, as if it is a usual ethernet device.

Then must I the WLAN interface and the ethernet interface also bridges that the customer gets a public ip?
I would not like to make nat.

4. Why don't you let the customer routerboard do the PPPoE dialin and
assign them a public ip? There should be customers with more than one
pc/phone/network device which will need IPs. Don't think that your public
IPs are endless.

Regards

seandsl
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P.S. Ich nehme an dies ist Deine erste Installation, vielleicht solltest Du
Dir prof. Support einkaufen für diese erste Installation. Ab der zweiten
weisst Du dann bescheid. Mikrotik ist nicht so banal wie irgendein SOHO
Router. Es gibt auch einen "offiziellen" Consultant in Deutschland ...
http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html

franco · Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:58 am

Hello Freebird

I will make it as follows.
I will BS1 let bridges mode go in this.
WLAN1, 2, 3 and ethernet interface = bridge.
I will make the other stations also in a bridge.
Sector and p2p aerials.
The customer equipment also becomes (bridged WLAN and Ethernet interface)
At the pppoe server I establish an EoIP connection with everybody customer.
Do you think that it works so?
It will be circumstantial to build EoIP conecction for every customer.
These are approx. 200 customers.
is this also more simply possible?
somehow dynamic?

you also can send me an e-mail in German if you want.
francesco.l [at] web.de
This is better to explain it to you.
I do not have it with English so.

franco · Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:49 am

Hy,

how can I solve the scenario mentioned above with OSPF and PPPOE?
Must be configured only the PtP ways with OSPF or I must also with ospf configure the sector aerials for costumers?
Can help with somebody?

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