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When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Tue May 23, 2017 2:21 pm

When coming AC Wave2 chip?
Planned this year or not?
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed May 24, 2017 9:26 am

I hope MikroTik will announce it in MUM Denver tomorrow
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed May 24, 2017 12:15 pm

If yes, please write here!

Thanks!
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Fri May 26, 2017 2:56 pm

Have news for us?
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Mon May 29, 2017 10:53 am

Looks like there are not news about AC Wave 2.

Only new in US MUM was a new chipset improvement of actual 802.11 ac wave 1 up to 700 mbps
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Mon May 29, 2017 12:29 pm

Maybe they are waiting on 802.11ac Wave2 chipset pricing to come down.

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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Mon May 29, 2017 11:14 pm

Only new in US MUM was a new chipset improvement of actual 802.11 ac wave 1 up to 700 mbps
Where was this mentioned? Is there any document?
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Mon May 29, 2017 11:15 pm

Maybe they are waiting on 802.11ac Wave2 chipset pricing to come down.
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I am asking myself how much an wave2 chipset actually costs. Do you have any pricing information?
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Mon May 29, 2017 11:40 pm

Only new in US MUM was a new chipset improvement of actual 802.11 ac wave 1 up to 700 mbps
Was there a reference for this?

edit: anuser beat me to this!
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Tue May 30, 2017 9:28 am

MikroTik haven't published the ppt slide yet.

This information is from my trainers colleagues, who attended Denver MUM.

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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:07 pm

Impressive.... UDP test but impressive. 80Mhz ? or 160 Mhz ?
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:14 pm

When coming AC Wave2 chip?
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:22 am

Looks like Not this year!
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:33 pm

very bad!!!
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:59 pm

700 meg wireless throughput, year right. You ain't gonna get that without the following:
- A faster CPU on the motherboard
- A 160 MHz wide frequency channel 2x2 , or a 40 MHz wide 6x6 channel.

Don't get me wrong. I am wanting a 160 MHz wide 2x2 AC wireless card and can use it now. ((( My 80 MHz Ceee 2x2 networks can only deliver about 500 meg max ))).

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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:01 pm

700 meg wireless throughput, year right. You ain't gonna get that without the following:
- A faster CPU on the motherboard
- A 160 MHz wide frequency channel 2x2 , or a 40 MHz wide 6x6 channel.

Don't get me wrong. I am wanting a 160 MHz wide 2x2 AC wireless card and can use it now. ((( My 80 MHz Ceee 2x2 networks can only deliver about 500 meg max ))).

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Those are old slides. We can get more now.
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:38 pm

700 meg wireless throughput, year right. You ain't gonna get that without the following:
- A faster CPU on the motherboard
- A 160 MHz wide frequency channel 2x2 , or a 40 MHz wide 6x6 channel.

Don't get me wrong. I am wanting a 160 MHz wide 2x2 AC wireless card and can use it now. ((( My 80 MHz Ceee 2x2 networks can only deliver about 500 meg max ))).

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Those are old slides. We can get more now.
normis, on a 2x2 connection , what is the Mikrotik-current-hardware and Mikrotik-near-future-planned-hardware fastest connection rate and throughput rate possible.
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:50 pm


Those are old slides. We can get more now.
This may be true, but wave2 is not just about speed but also much better simultaneous multi-client operation. This is good for highly congested areas (hotspots, universities, hotels, events, ...). I have not tested any wave2 product myself, but when talking with people who have, they say it works much better in situations where you have lots of users on a single AP.

So... when can we expect wave2 product from mikrotik?

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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:11 pm

700 meg wireless throughput
Those are old slides. We can get more now.
What is now possible? Is this only between Mikrotik devices? What can be expected with capsman manager forwarding? I'm currently seeing nowhere near 700 with 6.40.3 on hap ac (support said 700mbps driver update was included as of 6.40RC18)
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:40 pm

700 meg wireless throughput
Those are old slides. We can get more now.
What is now possible? Is this only between Mikrotik devices? What can be expected with capsman manager forwarding? I'm currently seeing nowhere near 700 with 6.40.3 on hap ac (support said 700mbps driver update was included as of 6.40RC18)
No, we tested with iperf from a Macbook Pro (because it has a good wifi wireless chip with 3 chain antenna, not a lot of client devices have them).
We could get around 800Mbit in perfect conditions. This was more to test the capability of the device, this is not normally possible with regular download in public area.
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:19 am

I can get 748megabits over a 60-second iperf3 UDP test, with some intervals being as high as 948megabits. This is with an older MacBook Pro and the WAP ac being on the other side of 1 wall, total distance of ~15'.
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:29 pm

Ubiquiti recently came out with their 4x4 Wave2 AP with MU-MIMO. Hopefully we see something from Mikrotik in response!

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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:19 am

the Mikrotik cAP AC just passed FCC compliance and has an 802.11ac Wave2 capable chipset.

So it looks like we will have Wave2 #soon :D
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:26 am

But Support for QCA9984 etc is missing at moment
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:16 pm

the Mikrotik cAP AC just passed FCC compliance and has an 802.11ac Wave2 capable chipset.

So it looks like we will have Wave2 #soon :D
You are right. First wave2 chipset from Mikrotik
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:03 am

Will be nice to see this in the hap ac lite and hap ac. There is also a gap for a model between those.
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:30 pm

According to unconfirmed information in first half of Jan 2018 will be anounced new SOHO Acess Point with Wave2 support instead hAP AC (+ ISP version with SFP support)
We wait :)

PS:I'm more concerned about the poor quality of antennas, which affects the range. This is the biggest problem!
They do not have a good specialist in this field.
I have seen model numbers floating around that line up with what you are saying, so with any luck we will have new home AP's from Mikrotik early next year.

TBH a lot of products are due a SOC upgrade, CRS1xx, RB2011, hAP AC Lite, hAP AC, cAP, wAP AC..

I agree, Mikrotik need to focus on the antennas to improve RX performance on their AP's. When we test wAP AC vs Cambium e400, the Cambium has much better RF performance due to the better antenna design.
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:32 am


TBH a lot of products are due a SOC upgrade, CRS1xx, RB2011, hAP AC Lite, hAP AC, cAP, wAP AC..

I agree, Mikrotik need to focus on the antennas to improve RX performance on their AP's. When we test wAP AC vs Cambium e400, the Cambium has much better RF performance due to the better antenna design.
As long as they all come with SFP's ;)
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:51 pm

@XDefender

i think there is no new Wireless Device offense from Mikrotik,
We are looking to Another Systems / Vendors for the Future!

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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:18 am

@XDefender

i think there is no new Wireless Device offense from Mikrotik,
We are looking to Another Systems / Vendors for the Future!

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We unfortunately are also being forced into changing to another vendor, its very frustrating to read that other vendors using similar chipsets with a simpler OS have vastly superior performance.
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:46 am

Yeah disappointing
I sayed It some years ago Mikrotik change focus from WISP Wireless to Home Wireless and Enterprise Routing
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:03 pm

Yeah disappointing
I sayed It some years ago Mikrotik change focus from WISP Wireless to Home Wireless and Enterprise Routing
Can someone explain the financial logic of moving away from customers (WISP's) who volume purchase?
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:16 pm

As you guys probably know, MikroTik does not comment on unannounced products. You will have to wait and see what we have to show in one of the upcoming MikroTik user meetings, most likely the big European MUM in spring. As to which features have to prioritised - that is a thing where everyone has their own opinion, I guess.
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:02 pm

As you guys probably know, MikroTik does not comment on unannounced products. You will have to wait and see what we have to show in one of the upcoming MikroTik user meetings, most likely the big European MUM in spring. As to which features have to prioritised - that is a thing where everyone has their own opinion, I guess.
I hope any new products that come out from Mikrotik will address new markets such as faster,larger more capability, and hopefully hit a home run with core high-end NOC equipment and address fiber-to-the-home markets with CPEs that have a complete package (fiber, wireless, VoIP & battery backup).

What ever Mikrotik comes out with, I'm sure it will be what many admins have been asking about and talking about in these forums. I always look forward to seeing what's new.

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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:25 pm

Oh look 160Mhz channel support :D
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:17 pm

Then i will try my Wave 2 pcie Modules again in the M11G
Hope for Qualcomm 9888 support.....
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:35 pm

As you guys probably know, MikroTik does not comment on unannounced products. You will have to wait and see what we have to show in one of the upcoming MikroTik user meetings, most likely the big European MUM in spring. As to which features have to prioritised - that is a thing where everyone has their own opinion, I guess.
Well, FCC shows a lot of information. No need to comment on it :) That cAP ac is "cute" 8)
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:52 am

no luck,
Qualcomm Atheros QCA9888 “Besra” Series is still not supportet


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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:02 pm

You can continue to talk mysteriously about your products that will appear. But I'm sure, by that time, many will switch to others.
We are disappointed in your products!
Your WiFI products are outsiders !!!!
Well, I switched to MikroTik wifi access points (WAP AC, HAP AC) because of its features in CAPSMAN. And I´m looking forward to those cAP AC devices when they are ready to ship some time in (hopefully) Q1/2018.

Looking at the pictures of the "cAP AC", it has an PoE In and PoE Out port. I am asking myself whether it is possible to run an "cAP AC" behind another "cAP AC"...
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:20 am

When will the driver come for wave2 ?
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:56 pm

don´t ask
 
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Re: When coming AC Wave2 chip?

Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:49 pm

I don't expect them to come anytime soon
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