After some weekend performance testing of Release build 6.42.3 wrt. Mikrotik hAP ac2, I found multiple significant improvements.

TL;DR. Apart from a slight worsening in legacy 2.4 GHz @ 20 MHz wireless stability, I believe Mikrotik have largely solved the worst of the hAP ac2 wireless issues.

Using the same exact process and equipment as my Release Candidate 6.43rc5 testing (principally a RTL8814AU WiFi chip USB 3.0 adapter connected to client PC via USB 3.0 ports), here are the peak throughput results for Release 6.42.3:

• 2.4 GHz peak download throughput: 161 Mbit/s from 135 Mbit/s = +19% improvement
• 2.4 GHz peak upload throughput: 117 Mbit/s from 86 Mbit/s = +36% improvement (*)
• 5.0 GHz peak download throughput: 399 Mbit/s from 396 Mbit/s = no change
• 5.0 GHz peak upload throughput: 417 Mbit/s from 347 Mbit/s = +20% improvement

All results confirmed with three 60 second runs. Peak throughput commands used: iperf3 -N -P10 -t 60 -R (download) and iperf3 -N -P10 -t 60 (upload).

Here is a summary of the results from the stability tests for 6.42rc3:



The stability test results are shown next visually in Box-and-Whisker plots of 56-byte data, 10 ms interval, 60k count ICMP pings for 6.43rc5 compared to 6.42.3. Again, I have included tests of an old Asus RT-N56U for comparison.

Lower is better:



(*) Changing router orientation from horizontal to vertical caused a leap from what appeared to be a decline to 69 Mbit/s, instead to an improvement of 117 Mbit/s in 2.4 GHz upload! Changing orientation for other peak throughput tests did not significantly impact performance.

Hello. Maybe stupid question Does Device need to be upgraded also if in managed by Capsman ? Must be server with Capsman upgraded ? Thanks

Clients - Roborock vacuum cleaner
Laptop Dell
Samsung Galaxy S4

Me best perfomance early, before I view the problem, about 2 months ago:

I manage a municipal ISP, we have had a steady flow of wifi issues. Many CX complain of doing and disconnecting wifi as well as slow speeds,
I'm already regretting or purchase of 500 hAC2 units. The pending "Broadcom compatibility firmware fix" had better be the silver bullet or we are going to look elsewhere for the next 1000 units in our Network build.

So you're a CAPSMAN user? I also fighted against group key timeout disconnects. On the access points try:




/interface wireless set adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode wlan2

/interface wireless set adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode wlan1

/interface wireless set amsdu-limit=4096 amsdu-threshold=4096 mode=ap-bridge wps-mode=disabled wlan2

/interface wireless set amsdu-limit=4096 amsdu-threshold=4096 mode=ap-bridge wps-mode=disabled wlan1

/interface wireless set wireless-protocol=802.11 wlan2

/interface wireless set wireless-protocol=802.11 wlan1

/interface wireless set wmm-support=enabled wlan2

/interface wireless set wmm-support=enabled wlan1

After that enable CAPSMAN Mode with group key Timer Set to 5 minutes

What do you use for CAPSMAN controller? CHR or some CCR?

/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] band=2ghz-b/g/n channel-width=20/40mhz-Ce \
disabled=no frequency=auto guard-interval=long mode=ap-bridge \
security-profile=foxy ssid=home tx-power=5 tx-power-mode=all-rates-fixed \
wireless-protocol=802.11 wmm-support=enabled
set [ find default-name=wlan2 ] band=5ghz-a/n/ac channel-width=20/40/80mhz-eeeC
disabled=no frequency=auto mode=ap-bridge security-profile=foxy ssid=\
home_5gh wireless-protocol=802.11
add disabled=no keepalive-frames=disabled mac-address=CE:2D:E0:F5:46:75 \
master-interface=wlan1 multicast-buffering=disabled name=FreeWifi_2Ghz \
ssid=FreeWifi_2ghz wds-cost-range=0 wds-default-cost=0 wps-mode=disabled
add disabled=no keepalive-frames=disabled mac-address=CE:2D:E0:F5:46:75 \
master-interface=wlan2 multicast-buffering=disabled name=FreeWifi_5Ghz \
ssid=FreeWifi_5ghz wds-cost-range=0 wds-default-cost=0 wps-mode=disabled
Using 2 or 5ghz Wifi Samsung s6 getting low dowload speed 10-15mbit/s upload 80-100mbit/s RouterOS 6.42.5.Speed does not differ using 2 or 5 G Frequency. Also I can't see TX power Winbox 3.15
on RB941-2nD everything was OK even speed on 2g was better.

When connected to 5G Hapac2 Samsung S6 using speed test before downloading or viewing youtube video I got speedtest.com 14/90 mb/sec but after viewing youtube I get 80/90 mbit/s speed test.

The current RouterOS and firmware have gotten a consistent 300/300M over wireless on my hAP AC2. (MUCH IMPROVED ON WHERE IT STARTED.)

This is in WAP mode... Not CAP. I have around 25 devices onnected across the 2 radios.

So Is the problem fixed ?

By far no. I get very unstable and slow connection using my laptop with Intel 7260 on RouterOS v6.43rc44. It really frustrates me.

hi guys
considering buying one of these for general home use.. want to use it for wifi & VPN. Would wifi be ok using latest stock f/w for general home use?
whats best speed anyones got using VPN single tunnel 256bit?
cheers

Hello. Have anyone faced this problem?
For example, to same wifi connected >1 devices. When some of these devices started some light internet activity (browsing, youtube etc), all another devices experience some issues from very high ping to router >800ms up to disconnects. (without activity ping 1-2ms).
When 2 devices connected to different bands, all is ok on both.
That's strange, another routers (Asus or cheap Tp-link) handles same load perfectly with many devices.
Tried many different settings, also tried latest 6.43rc44 - still no positive changes.

Hello. Have anyone faced this problem?
For example, to same wifi connected >1 devices. When some of these devices started some light internet activity (browsing, youtube etc), all another devices experience some issues from very high ping to router >800ms up to disconnects. (without activity ping 1-2ms).
When 2 devices connected to different bands, all is ok on both.
That's strange, another routers (Asus or cheap Tp-link) handles same load perfectly with many devices.
Tried many different settings, also tried latest 6.43rc44 - still no positive changes.

I have been running the hAP AC2 at my house for a few weeks now.

It has 17-40 devices across both radios ALL THE TIME. (Depends on how many people are home.)

Right now... I am watching "The Americans" from Amazon Prime on my LG OLED.
My son is downstairs playing FortNight on his Xbox.
He also has a Samsung tablet playing youtube on his lap.
I am typing on my Acer Laptop.
Ryan's Google Home is playing some sort of music he asked for.
And my Pixel XL is next to me.

They are all on the same 5.8 radio.

Running 6.42.5

I was very critical of the cAP AC when I first got it. But somewhere in the 6.42 firmwares... I went from getting throughput in the mid 50M to consistent 300M. By the time I tested a hAP AC2... the firmwares were already up to the 6.42 range.

hi guys
considering buying one of these for general home use.. want to use it for wifi & VPN. Would wifi be ok using latest stock f/w for general home use?
whats best speed anyones got using VPN single tunnel 256bit?
cheers

See here. I was able to saturate my 110 Mb downstream using AES-128+SHA256, CPU <10%.

Hi, all
Recently bought hAP ac2, it turned out a nightmare to get stable fast link on 2.4 radio.
Options tried:
manual channel select
security (aes/tkip/none)
channel widths with different options (Ce/cE/XX)
updating to RC firmware/OS
leaving only N/a/b/g mode
setting transmit power
power source change
There are few APs from neighbours, however there are 2-3 usable channels, where speed seems to be better, but its still slower than cheap tp-link.
I've got only 15-35 mbps on torrent download comparing to 45-55 mbps on tp-link.
Local share is even worse, transfering file from PC to android and vice versa is only 12-18 mbps vs 22-28 mbps on tp-link.
MikroTik's btest shows 100mbps on 'clean' channels in both directions (separate tests, duplex going 100 for download, 3.5-4 for upload), but internet speed and actual transfer speed is much lower.
Wired im able to get 100 mbps, so its not ISP issue.
My network is laptop (some realtek card), desktop (tp-link wl-721N usb adapter), both are capable of 300 mbps (at least it is indicated in connection properties and in other router status) and 40 MHz wifth, and Redmi3S (20 MHz width)
Am i missing something important?

Make sure you update your wireless card drivers. Check your hardware provider for newer drivers.
I had issues with an intel 7260 card, with slow speed and connectivity issues. After updating drivers to the latest version my issues are gone..

Hi, all
Recently bought hAP ac2, it turned out a nightmare to get stable fast link on 2.4 radio.
Options tried:
manual channel select
security (aes/tkip/none)
channel widths with different options (Ce/cE/XX)
updating to RC firmware/OS
leaving only N/a/b/g mode
setting transmit power
power source change
There are few APs from neighbours, however there are 2-3 usable channels, where speed seems to be better, but its still slower than cheap tp-link.
I've got only 15-35 mbps on torrent download comparing to 45-55 mbps on tp-link.
Local share is even worse, transfering file from PC to android and vice versa is only 12-18 mbps vs 22-28 mbps on tp-link.
MikroTik's btest shows 100mbps on 'clean' channels in both directions (separate tests, duplex going 100 for download, 3.5-4 for upload), but internet speed and actual transfer speed is much lower.
Wired im able to get 100 mbps, so its not ISP issue.
My network is laptop (some realtek card), desktop (tp-link wl-721N usb adapter), both are capable of 300 mbps (at least it is indicated in connection properties and in other router status) and 40 MHz wifth, and Redmi3S (20 MHz width)
Am i missing something important?

Did you upgrade both the packages and the firmware to the latest current versions?

yep, i've upgraded to latest stable first, then to 6.43rc51 both OS and firmware

yep, i've upgraded to latest stable first, then to 6.43rc51 both OS and firmware

Try:
/interface wireless set adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode wlan2
/interface wireless set adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode wlan1

anuser thanks, now i have 90-100 mbps lan-to-wan
file share still slow (22-25 mbps), will try to figure out why

Please retest with latest 6.42.7.
Performance may be different.

Hi,

I just installed os 6.44beta9 (with firmware update)
The wifi performance is very poor.

Currently I use CAPsMAN . I tried anuse suggestion. No luck.
Whatever I try, I get on 5.8 ac about 21mbps download and 46mbps upload. (tested on nexus 6p, and intel wifi 7265 ac laptop) I must be doing something wrong... (that's 802.11g speed)

My capsman settings (for the onboard 5.8 radio) are:

provisioning:
;;; provisioning for local 5.8 radio
radio-mac=(my mac) hw-supported-modes=ac identity-regexp="" common-name-regexp="" ip-address-ranges="" action=create-enabled
master-configuration=AP_main_main_lan_ch36 slave-configurations="" name-format=cap name-prefix=""

channel:
name="5.8_channel036" frequency=5180 control-channel-width=20mhz band=5ghz-n/ac extension-channel=Ceee tx-power=10

configuration:
name="AP_main_lan_ch36" mode=ap ssid="(my ssid)" security=security2_local_lan datapath=datapath_vlan20 channel=5.8_channel036

data path:
name="datapath_vlan20" bridge=bridge20_vlan20

security:
name="security2_local_lan" authentication-types=wpa2-psk encryption=aes-ccm group-encryption=aes-ccm passphrase="(my key)"

This magnificent speed is on all (4) HAP ac2s connected to the capsman.
If anybody has any suggestion, I'm grateful.

Thank you for the reply nescafe2002 !!

Removing the control-channel-width and extension-channel=Ceee did the trick. Now I get solid 220mbps download and about 100mbps upload. Still not great ac speeds but better then before. (Removing the band and setting the country did not impact the transfer speed).
now the channel looks like this:
name="5.8_channel036" frequency=5180 tx-power=17

Thank you for your help !

p.s.
The tx power is low because the ap is right next to my laptop (testing purposes). I'll increase it when I'll set it up properly.
The trunk/vlans are there for the other Ethernet ports, especially an access port so a directly connected computer can access the network's management vlan.

Try local forwarding (datapath) for even faster speed.

Did you enable those locally on the access point?
/interface wireless set adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode wlan2
/interface wireless set adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode wlan1

Hi,
I'll try local forwarding (datapath) soon.
Yes anuser, enabled locally on all access points.

Will do more testing before deployment...

Not sure what u are struggling with ( Poor Performance ) that's why u never get response form Mikrotik support do the correct setup with the routers and believe me u will get mush better performance
i am running between 40 and 60 clients per sector ( Netmetal 5 with AR Elements sector) getting very good throughput with a very stable ping providing my clients from 4Mb to 12Mb
no prob

Hi, could you please test with latest 6.44 release candidate? For me it seems performance decreased

Hi anuser,

For me, the speed is up with this patch. I get solid 250/125mbps on 5.8ghz (witch is my current internet speed from the ISP) and about 150/100mbps on 2.4ghz.
My current config is this (with blanked macs/radio names):

# oct/11/2018 21:34:46 by RouterOS 6.44beta17
# software id = 1239-VPQ9
#
# model = RBD52G-5HacD2HnD
# serial number =
/caps-man channel
add band=2ghz-g/n frequency=2412 name=2.4_channel001 tx-power=17
add band=2ghz-g/n frequency=2437 name=2.4_channel006 tx-power=17
add band=2ghz-g/n frequency=2462 name=2.4_channel011 tx-power=17
add band=5ghz-n/ac frequency=5180 name=5.8_channel036 tx-power=17
add band=5ghz-n/ac frequency=5260 name=5.8_channel056 tx-power=17
/caps-man security
add authentication-types=wpa-psk,wpa2-psk encryption=aes-ccm,tkip group-encryption=aes-ccm group-key-update=5m name=security1_management
add authentication-types=wpa-psk,wpa2-psk encryption=aes-ccm,tkip group-encryption=aes-ccm group-key-update=5m name=security2_local_lan
add authentication-types=wpa-psk,wpa2-psk encryption=aes-ccm,tkip group-encryption=aes-ccm group-key-update=5m name=security3_guest
/caps-man access-list
add action=accept allow-signal-out-of-range=10s comment="signal ok" disabled=no interface=any signal-range=-80..120 ssid-regexp=""
add action=reject allow-signal-out-of-range=10s comment="bad signal" disabled=no interface=any signal-range=-120..-81 ssid-regexp=""
/caps-man configuration
add channel=2.4_channel001 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan10 hide-ssid=yes mode=ap name=AP_0_management_ch1 rates.vht-supported-mcs="" security=security1_management ssid=art_management
add channel=2.4_channel001 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan20a mode=ap name=AP_0_main_lan_ch1 security=security2_local_lan ssid=art_LAN
add channel=2.4_channel001 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan30 name=AP_0_guest_ch1 security=security3_guest ssid=art_Guest
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan10 hide-ssid=yes mode=ap name=AP_0_management_ch36 security=security1_management ssid=art_management_5.8
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan20a mode=ap name=AP_0_main_lan_ch36 security=security2_local_lan ssid=art_LAN_5.8
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan30 mode=ap name=AP_0_guest_ch36 security=security3_guest ssid=art_Guest_5.8
add channel=2.4_channel006 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan30 name=AP_1_guest_ch6 security=security3_guest ssid=art_Guest
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan30 mode=ap name=AP_1_guest_ch36 security=security3_guest ssid=art_Guest_5.8
add channel=2.4_channel006 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan20a mode=ap name=AP_1_main_lan_ch6 security=security2_local_lan ssid=art_LAN
add channel=2.4_channel006 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan10 hide-ssid=yes mode=ap name=AP_1_management_ch6 rates.vht-supported-mcs="" security=security1_management ssid=art_management
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan20a mode=ap name=AP_1_main_lan_ch36 security=security2_local_lan ssid=art_LAN_5.8
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan10 hide-ssid=yes mode=ap name=AP_1_management_ch36 security=security1_management ssid=art_management_5.8
add channel=2.4_channel011 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan30 name=AP_2_guest_ch11 security=security3_guest ssid=art_Guest
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan30 mode=ap name=AP_2_guest_ch36 security=security3_guest ssid=art_Guest_5.8
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan20a mode=ap name=AP_2_main_lan_ch36 security=security2_local_lan ssid=art_LAN_5.8
add channel=2.4_channel011 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan20a mode=ap name=AP_2_main_lan_ch11 security=security2_local_lan ssid=art_LAN
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan10 hide-ssid=yes mode=ap name=AP_2_management_ch36 security=security1_management ssid=art_management_5.8
add channel=2.4_channel011 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan10 hide-ssid=yes mode=ap name=AP_2_management_ch11 rates.vht-supported-mcs="" security=security1_management ssid=art_management
add channel=2.4_channel001 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan30 name=AP_3_guest_ch1 security=security3_guest ssid=art_Guest
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan30 mode=ap name=AP_3_guest_ch36 security=security3_guest ssid=art_Guest_5.8
add channel=2.4_channel001 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan20a mode=ap name=AP_3_main_lan_ch1 security=security2_local_lan ssid=art_LAN
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan20a mode=ap name=AP_3_main_lan_ch36 security=security2_local_lan ssid=art_LAN_5.8
add channel=2.4_channel001 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan10 hide-ssid=yes mode=ap name=AP_3_management_ch1 rates.vht-supported-mcs="" security=security1_management ssid=art_management
add channel=5.8_channel036 country=romania datapath=datapath_vlan10 hide-ssid=yes mode=ap name=AP_3_management_ch36 security=security1_management ssid=art_management_5.8
/caps-man datapath
add bridge=bridge10_vlan10 name=datapath_vlan10
add bridge=bridge30_vlan30 client-to-client-forwarding=no local-forwarding=no name=datapath_vlan30
add bridge=bridge20_vlan20a name=datapath_vlan20a
/caps-man interface
add configuration=AP_1_main_lan_ch6 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=none name=cap1 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_1_management_ch6 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap1 name=cap2 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_1_guest_ch6 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap1 name=cap3 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_1_main_lan_ch36 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=none name=cap4 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_1_management_ch36 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap4 name=cap5 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_1_guest_ch36 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap4 name=cap6 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_2_main_lan_ch11 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=none name=cap7 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_2_management_ch11 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap7 name=cap8 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_2_guest_ch11 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap7 name=cap9 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_2_main_lan_ch36 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=none name=cap10 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_0_main_lan_ch1 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=none name=cap11 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_0_management_ch1 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap11 name=cap12 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_0_guest_ch1 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap11 name=cap13 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_0_main_lan_ch36 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=none name=cap14 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_0_management_ch36 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap14 name=cap15 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_0_guest_ch36 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap14 name=cap16 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_2_management_ch36 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap10 name=cap17 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=XXXXXXXXXXXX
add configuration=AP_2_guest_ch36 disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX master-interface=cap10 name=cap18 radio-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 radio-name=BXXXXXXXXXXXX
/caps-man manager
set ca-certificate=auto certificate=auto enabled=yes
/caps-man provisioning
add action=create-enabled comment="provisioning for local 2.4 radio" hw-supported-modes=gn master-configuration=AP_0_main_lan_ch1 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX slave-configurations=AP_0_management_ch1,AP_0_guest_ch1
add action=create-enabled comment="provisioning for local 5.8 radio" master-configuration=AP_0_main_lan_ch36 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX slave-configurations=AP_0_management_ch36
add action=create-enabled comment="provisioning for AP1 2.4" master-configuration=AP_1_main_lan_ch6 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX slave-configurations=AP_1_management_ch6,AP_1_guest_ch6
add action=create-enabled comment="provisioning for AP1 5.8" master-configuration=AP_1_main_lan_ch36 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX slave-configurations=AP_1_management_ch36
add action=create-enabled comment="provisioning for AP2 2.4" master-configuration=AP_2_main_lan_ch11 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX slave-configurations=AP_2_management_ch11,AP_2_guest_ch11
add action=create-enabled comment="provisioning for AP2 5.8" master-configuration=AP_2_main_lan_ch36 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX slave-configurations=AP_2_management_ch36
add action=create-enabled comment="provisioning for AP3 5.8" master-configuration=AP_3_main_lan_ch36 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX slave-configurations=AP_3_management_ch36
add action=create-enabled comment="provisioning for AP3 2.4" master-configuration=AP_3_main_lan_ch1 radio-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX slave-configurations=AP_3_management_ch1,AP_3_guest_ch1

p.s. I know there are a lot of redundant 5.8 configurations (are there to play around with the 5.8 channels...)

Hello all,
Any changes on this? I`m new Mikrotik hAP ac^2 user and i`m struggling with poor WiFi performance. My connection from ISP is 300/20 Mbps and i`m getting around 290/20 Mbps using ethernet. But using WiFi 2.4G i`m getting around 90/20 Mbps (1m from router) same for 5G (around 110/20 Mbps). My settings are default only changes that i have made is that i have enabled secruity (WPA2-PSK with AES only).

I'm also still having issues with wireless performance, haven't touched it much, only setup a bridge and a dhcp client on it

i have another problem with wifi. it seemes to drop speed tenfold after several days of working without reboot. reboot solves wifi speed problem but again only for several days. help needed

i have another problem with wifi. it seemes to drop speed tenfold after several days of working without reboot. reboot solves wifi speed problem but again only for several days. help needed

Write a simple scheduler and and script to reboot it every 48 hours.

Professionally... We put a stop on Mikrotik wireless deployments. We kept hitting the same issue. We documented it and Mikrotik reproduced it. They stated they don't have a fix... As pros... That meant no more in the field.

I was incredibly disappointed in Mikrotik about this. I wrote a lot of cool stuff based on Caps-man and can't use any of it now.

My experience with this hAP AC2 with 6.46b28 firmware after fine tune can gets 470mbps with my iPhone XS Max, and 440mbps with my iPad Pro 10'5, upload both 206mbps (My ISP max speed), really nice result even though the speed is not stable, sometimes will drop to sub 300mbps.

The problem is when I switch to CAPsMAN mode it will limit to 380mbps, no matter how I change setting, it caps there, and I noticed one of my CAP's 5GHz Wi-Fi disappear after 2 days of running, it just gone and I can't seems to find it on my phone but CAPsMAN got nothing special and no log was logged, it only works again by removing it from CAPsMAN and reconnect, will monitor few more days to see if this happen again.

My experience with this hAP AC2 with 6.46b28 firmware after fine tune

Can you please post your "fine tuned" configuration?

i have another problem with wifi. it seemes to drop speed tenfold after several days of working without reboot. reboot solves wifi speed problem but again only for several days. help needed

Write a simple scheduler and and script to reboot it every 48 hours.

Professionally... We put a stop on Mikrotik wireless deployments. We kept hitting the same issue. We documented it and Mikrotik reproduced it. They stated they don't have a fix... As pros... That meant no more in the field.

I was incredibly disappointed in Mikrotik about this. I wrote a lot of cool stuff based on Caps-man and can't use any of it now.

it seemes that after updating to 6.45.3 problem has gone. but it needs more testing

My experience with this hAP AC2 with 6.46b28 firmware after fine tune can gets 470mbps with my iPhone XS Max, and 440mbps with my iPad Pro 10'5, upload both 206mbps (My ISP max speed), really nice result even though the speed is not stable, sometimes will drop to sub 300mbps.

The problem is when I switch to CAPsMAN mode it will limit to 380mbps, no matter how I change setting, it caps there, and I noticed one of my CAP's 5GHz Wi-Fi disappear after 2 days of running, it just gone and I can't seems to find it on my phone but CAPsMAN got nothing special and no log was logged, it only works again by removing it from CAPsMAN and reconnect, will monitor few more days to see if this happen again.

It happened again today, about 24 hours of running it, seems it's not accident, something wrong on CAPsMAN in 6.46b28, anyway I'm done with this CAPsMAN, just run it as AP bridge and bye bye CAPsMAN.

My experience with this hAP AC2 with 6.46b28 firmware after fine tune

Can you please post your "fine tuned" configuration?

authentication-types=wpa2-psk eap-methods="" group-key-update=1h mode=dynamic-keys name=Darren supplicant-identity="" wpa-pre-shared-key=\
xxxxxxxx wpa2-pre-shared-key=xxxxxxxx
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan2 ] adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode antenna-gain=2 band=5ghz-onlyac basic-rates-a/g=12Mbps channel-width=\
20/40/80mhz-eeCe country="united states" disabled=no distance=indoors frequency=5220 frequency-mode=regulatory-domain \
hw-fragmentation-threshold=2346 hw-protection-mode=rts-cts hw-protection-threshold=2347 keepalive-frames=disabled mode=ap-bridge \
multicast-buffering=disabled multicast-helper=disabled name=W5G rate-set=configured security-profile=Darren ssid=ChengFamily5G \
supported-rates-a/g=12Mbps,18Mbps,24Mbps,36Mbps,48Mbps,54Mbps vht-supported-mcs=mcs0-9,mcs0-9 wireless-protocol=802.11 wmm-support=enabled \
wps-mode=disabled
/interface wireless nstreme
set W5G disable-csma=yes

I manage a municipal ISP, we have had a steady flow of wifi issues. Many CX complain of doing and disconnecting wifi as well as slow speeds,
I'm already regretting or purchase of 500 hAC2 units. The pending "Broadcom compatibility firmware fix" had better be the silver bullet or we are going to look elsewhere for the next 1000 units in our Network build.

It's going to be 2020 and the hAP ac2 is still not fully compatible with Broadcom clients like Exynos S10 phones.

RouterOS v6.46beta59 has fixes for wireless. Do they fix your performance problems with hap ac2?
(Not with CAPSMAN, this is full of bugs)

RouterOS v6.46beta59 has fixes for wireless. Do they fix your performance problems with hap ac2?
(Not with CAPSMAN, this is full of bugs)

Which Bugs exactly in caps-man?

The pending "Broadcom compatibility firmware fix"

Where did you hear about that special Broadcom compatibiliy firmware fix?

6.46 beta 59 fixes nothing for me, setting AMSDU Limit to 2048 improves the overall stability but there's still 1-2 disconnections per day vs 1 disconnection every 5 minutes.

Thanks for the "AMSDU Limit to 2048" tip. It makes my Huawei Mate 20 Lite like the router a little bit more (atleast I get ~20mbps and even more somewhat stable download on 5GHz, instead of, well, less.)

RouterOS v6.46beta59 has fixes for wireless. Do they fix your performance problems with hap ac2?
(Not with CAPSMAN, this is full of bugs)

Which Bugs exactly in caps-man?

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=153735&p=760146&hil ... an#p760146

Interesting config setting: "hw-fragmentation-threshold=2346 hw-protection-mode=rts-cts hw-protection-threshold=2347", will never activate RTS/CTS, so why should you set it then?
Max packet size = 2346, RTS/CTS is activated if packet size is 2347 or larger.

Many of the settings in RouterOS are from b/a/g/n , but we use 802.11ac and there the numbers are different. e.g. A-MSDU size is now not set but dependent on the PMDU size, and that is either 3895,7991 or 11454 in 802.11 ac. What happens if the n version of a-MSDU size is set (typically one chooses between 8192 and 2048) in RouterOS?

Sorry to bring up an old thread but I have just purchased a Hap AC3 with the external antennas and it still has all the same problems that existed from 3-4 years ago.

I have also upgraded to the be all and end all of fixes which is ROS 7. Guess what???? It doesn't work. I read that people are having wireless issues with 7.1.1 which is the latest stable release as the time of writing this (Dec 27th 2021) so I went back to the latest stable release of ROS 6 which is 6.49.2 and it makes no difference.

I have WLAN1 (2.4Ghz) and WLAN2 (5Ghz) and even though both are enabled, only 1 can be connected to or even seen, depending on the how the stars are lined up and where every planet is situated and if the moon is visible or not, and the other comes up with an error saying it cannot connect. There is no choice of which one works unless you manually disable 1 of the radios. I cannot even get into room 2 without losing signal. The Hap AC3 is in room 1.

Support files have been sent off to the suppliers and they have said there is nothing wrong but they are seeing the wireless hit -95db and dropouts. Its a very simple base config with stock standard rules and a basic masq NAT to the internet. That's it. No special routing, firewalling, VPN's, nothing.......... Again a very simple wireless config with a separate SSID for each WLAN and uses the same same security for both WLAN's. Any more than 5M away from the Hap AC3 and the wireless connections are so poor that they drop.

I find it very frustrating and am extremely p1$$3d off right now that even after all these years, Mikrotik still has the same god damn issues that they had 3-4 years ago with the new equipment and they great ROS version 7 that was meant to be the saviour doesn't fix anything with the well known wireless issues.

I then come across this thread that dates way back with the same issues I am facing now and even more issues than what was listed all those years ago now with radios not even showing up or being able to connect to them. I honestly feel like taking this POS device and bashing Mikrotik over their moronic heads right now as they clearly are selling SMB grade devices that don't work and never will and as a business, you are better off buying crappy d-link or tp-link as they are more stable and out perform expensive business grade products that are sold by Mikrotik. I don't own a single Mikrotik product that does what it says its going to do and have had enough. This includes AP's, Routers, switches, All in one devices, etc and not one of them does or works as they should and it doesn't matter how many times you contact support, there is no answer.

Well, best solution for you is to return Mikrotik hAP while you still can and buy something else. While Mikrotik is doing some baby steps towards better WIFI, it's all still years behind even the cheapest competition. It will take years before situation improves at this pace, so if you need good WIFI now, you have to look somewhere else...

I have WLAN1 (2.4Ghz) and WLAN2 (5Ghz) and even though both are enabled, only 1 can be connected to or even seen, depending on the how the stars are lined up and where every planet is situated and if the moon is visible or not, and the other comes up with an error saying it cannot connect.

I bet you can see 2.4GHz , not the 5 GHZ. And that is because of the settings (out of the box) that are a mismatch with your needs.
5 GHz need the correct country to be set (channels differ greatly per regulatory domain), the freq selection must be done (auto freq has no clue and is unpredictable), be aware of DFS rules requiring 1 minute and for some channels 10 minutes of total silence , be aware of the channel limitations of the client device (some only support the 4 lower channels), some devices still insist on using TKIP and to pass to adjacent rooms the default 80MHz channel width is the weakest choice possible.

Yes other brands are auto-adjusting the parameters and are preconfigured for the regulatory domain of the destination. Their auto freq selection is better, and they have DFS prescan avoiding radio silence, WMM is enabled , they use airtime fairness, have better roaming support (QBSS info, band steering), do not use the smallest buffers of the802.11ac standard, they may even have beam forming .... . But besides that the MT AP can be used if manually set correctly. Test in standalone mode. Adding CAPsMAN is adding another layer of complexity with new functions but also new limitations.

My Audience with WAVE 2 drivers on it is performing almost as well as other manufactures did with ACv2... in 2016.

It can't work with caps-man. So its configured standalone and it lights up the whole house with all 3 radios taking clients.

For the first time ever... 2.4Ghz clients are staying connected in this noisy environment. The time outs are under 20 seconds now. So I stopped getting alerts every couple hours.

I have WLAN1 (2.4Ghz) and WLAN2 (5Ghz) and even though both are enabled, only 1 can be connected to or even seen, depending on the how the stars are lined up and where every planet is situated and if the moon is visible or not, and the other comes up with an error saying it cannot connect.

I bet you can see 2.4GHz , not the 5 GHZ. And that is because of the settings (out of the box) that are a mismatch with your needs.
5 GHz need the correct country to be set (channels differ greatly per regulatory domain), the freq selection must be done (auto freq has no clue and is unpredictable), be aware of DFS rules requiring 1 minute and for some channels 10 minutes of total silence , be aware of the channel limitations of the client device (some only support the 4 lower channels), some devices still insist on using TKIP and to pass to adjacent rooms the default 80MHz channel width is the weakest choice possible.

Yes other brands are auto-adjusting the parameters and are preconfigured for the regulatory domain of the destination. Their auto freq selection is better, and they have DFS prescan avoiding radio silence, WMM is enabled , they use airtime fairness, have better roaming support (QBSS info, band steering), do not use the smallest buffers of the802.11ac standard, they may even have beam forming .... . But besides that the MT AP can be used if manually set correctly. Test in standalone mode. Adding CAPsMAN is adding another layer of complexity with new functions but also new limitations.

Sadly I do have the correct country set and tried auto and manual frequencies and all tests were done in standalone mode. Many settings were tried with multiple security types and even multiple security policies for each WLAN. Bands, channel widths, DFS on/off, Alternate countries, indoor/outdoor, WMM on/off, TX Power, etc etc but nothing made a difference and I am waiting for support to get back to me but that won't be until mid January at this point due to the Christmas holidays.

This was purchased as a test device that I wanted to have the configuration correct to setup VPN's with other sites and setting their current devices, whatever they may be, to be in bridge mode only which would then render the wireless on there existing devices to be turned off. With all the different types of internet connections we have here and different modem interfaces, this would be the easiest way to connect the sites together but WiFi is a must and having to buy now a 3rd device just for WiFi is ridiculous when it should work with just the device I purchased.

I ended up purchasing Cisco gear for home as previous tests with so called SMB products such as Mikrotik, Ubiquiti and even Edimax that are meant to be the cheaper SMB products were all worse than basic home grade products. However some of the home grade products have issues with handoff in larger areas where multiple devices are needed, which was also the case with the SMB products funnily enough, so I went Cisco for my house and have good speeds and flawless handoff. It would be nice for a product that claims to be great and have all these features to actually work when it comes to the simple things these devices are meant to be capable of.

I have WLAN1 (2.4Ghz) and WLAN2 (5Ghz) and even though both are enabled, only 1 can be connected to or even seen, depending on the how the stars are lined up and where every planet is situated and if the moon is visible or not, and the other comes up with an error saying it cannot connect.

Very unlikely combination with this ....

Sadly I do have the correct country set and tried auto and manual frequencies and all tests were done in standalone mode. Many settings were tried with multiple security types and even multiple security policies for each WLAN. Bands, channel widths, DFS on/off, Alternate countries, indoor/outdoor, WMM on/off, TX Power, etc etc but nothing made a difference

DFS cannot be turned OFF, installation should be "any" not indoor or outdoor,
.... and don't copy "tuned configs" from others. They work excellent for that environment, buy every tuning setting has a negative impact and should not be set if it was not absolutly needed.
You might share your "non working" config (/export hide-sensitive file=anyfilename) , and the info in the log (with Logging Topics=wireless enabled) and what is in the registration table.

Sorry to bring up an old thread but I have just purchased a Hap AC3 with the external antennas and it still has all the same problems that existed from 3-4 years ago.

Sorry you only have yourself to blame, especially because you have prior experience. Most first time users tend to buy blindly and although they do they talk to friends, check out youtube, check out reviews we tend NOT TO CHECK OUT the biggie, the most IMPORTANT SOURCE, and by that I mean visit support forums to get a lay of the land --> well until they have bought the product and run into problem. So yes, the first time user gets a break but not afterwards.

No one here I know of with their head screwed on straight is recommending FOR A WIFI focussed requirement, wifi5 from MT. Granted their newer products hapac3, audience etc seem to be a less proprietary product and have better functionality (speed and stability) then the older wifi5 devices, but they do still have some issues.
BPWL is best suited, tracks this stuff closely, to state whether the hacac3/audience are indeed as good as other vendor wifi5 products and if better than older mt wifi5.

In any case, any moron that buys WIFI5, when there are now cost effective wifi6 options out there, is beyond help. The only reason to stick with MT wifi is twofold.
a. un paralleled flexibility of the RoS firmware
b. amazing capsman controller for those with many many wifi device.

Hence there are many here begging MT to provide some wifi6/6E etc RoS capsman capable devices!!!! ASAP!!!

Sorry to bring up an old thread but I have just purchased a Hap AC3 with the external antennas and it still has all the same problems that existed from 3-4 years ago.

Sorry you only have yourself to blame, especially because you have prior experience. Most first time users tend to buy blindly and although they do they talk to friends, check out youtube, check out reviews we tend NOT TO CHECK OUT the biggie, the most IMPORTANT SOURCE, and by that I mean visit support forums to get a lay of the land --> well until they have bought the product and run into problem. So yes, the first time user gets a break but not afterwards.

No one here I know of with their head screwed on straight is recommending FOR A WIFI focussed requirement, wifi5 from MT. Granted their newer products hapac3, audience etc seem to be a less proprietary product and have better functionality (speed and stability) then the older wifi5 devices, but they do still have some issues.
BPWL is best suited, tracks this stuff closely, to state whether the hacac3/audience are indeed as good as other vendor wifi5 products and if better than older mt wifi5.

In any case, any moron that buys WIFI5, when there are now cost effective wifi6 options out there, is beyond help. The only reason to stick with MT wifi is twofold.
a. un paralleled flexibility of the RoS firmware
b. amazing capsman controller for those with many many wifi device.

Hence there are many here begging MT to provide some wifi6/6E etc RoS capsman capable devices!!!! ASAP!!!

Begging is getting me nowhere...