Hi wispman74,Hi all,
I performed a test on anoter ptp link (1km) using two SXTsq 5 ac. Ther's no way to use NV2, the link drops every 5 minutes. Only 802.11 seems to work.
depends on noise and EIRP, if you are in noise area, don't buy Mikrotik go with something shielded and with GPS sync...Hi wispman74,Hi all,
I performed a test on anoter ptp link (1km) using two SXTsq 5 ac. Ther's no way to use NV2, the link drops every 5 minutes. Only 802.11 seems to work.
How many Mbps could you get for PTP link (1km) with 802.11 protocol?
Ping latency between SXTsq 5 ac devices?
Thanks!
We pationally wait!For the other Questions.......
- wait for ARM fix
- wait for spectral scan
- wait for ROS 7
or change Brand......
Hi binh,@mistry7: thanks for your advisory and information.
@wispman74: I think you got the problem with configuration. Lockup MikroTik wiki for how to configure PTP with MikroTik devices.
WISP hardware is not longer Focus for Mikrotik, look at Switches / Routers they release in the past 6 Month....... Hap Ac2 without POE out, SXTsq, LHG and all newHi binh,@mistry7: thanks for your advisory and information.
@wispman74: I think you got the problem with configuration. Lockup MikroTik wiki for how to configure PTP with MikroTik devices.
thankyou for your advice, but this is not the first ptp I configured (tens before now), but is the third using ARM devices and I foud a lot of problems not only regarding nv2 and wifi connection.
I had to replace my ptp with another using MIPSE devices and everything gone well as always before.
Now I tested again the ARM ptp to understand why with the same configuration I have bad behaviour.
What happen is that sometimes, after finished to configure the devices, it becomes invisible from winbox. The reason is that RouterOS change itself the default value of neighbor discovery-settings.
Also, I was not able to reach master from slave and viceversa and I couldn't start a bandwidth test without any apparent reason.
After reset configuration and did it again, everything start to work fine.
I like Mikrotik, but is really unbeliveable to see so much issues in new ARM devices. Is it possible Mikrotik didn't see them during their tests?
nv2 and nstreme are not working with ARM based DevicesWisp with around 1000 clients here.
We are planning to installa new tower with 6 Netmetal on 2 triple pannels to migrate around 100 CPEs, using new Disc Lite AC (drm), and after reading all the problems posted here, we are really thinking it over.
It's a very noisy scenario and we really need NV2 to get it working.
Last routeros version 6.43rc66 (2018-Aug-28 13:36) says this:
*) wireless - improved Nv2 reliability on ARM devices
Is this statement real? Can we trust that Mikrotik will fix this really BIG problem? Or should we return the allready aquired Mikrotik equipment and switch to another vendor?
Thanks in advance and excuse my poor english.
If you sell 5/10/15MBit plans, you should stay with MT we sell 50/100/200MBit plans, and this is impossible with MTThe 5 Ghz outdoor wireless market is too big to lose it.. There are thousand of WISP using MT worldwide we have 200 MT routers and 6000 MT CPE the difference beetween the 2 markets is huge.
@Normis please an answer give us info to continue our business also if the news are bad and we have to move to other vendors for wireless.
Thank You
NV2 Never Performs good in ac, and there are no Informations why, all our old 802.11nNow the max troughput total is 80Mbps of uplink to theses others towers, before with a Sextant-G(Level4) in NV2 in the place of the LHG 5ac the traffic was 120-150Mbps...
Tomorrow i go up to the top of the tower to change back to the old Sextant-G... hoping NV2 and 802.11ac work fine in a near future
Hi mistry7,NV2 Never Performs good in ac, and there are no Informations why, all our old 802.11nNow the max troughput total is 80Mbps of uplink to theses others towers, before with a Sextant-G(Level4) in NV2 in the place of the LHG 5ac the traffic was 120-150Mbps...
Tomorrow i go up to the top of the tower to change back to the old Sextant-G... hoping NV2 and 802.11ac work fine in a near future
P2P links are performing better with old Hardware, until we began to use another Vendor too.
With Mimosa and UBnT we are seeing speed increases about 3-4 times
with same Channel / Width / Interferrence.
We are working in very noisy inmoriment, and with https://mimosa.co/products/a5c and GPS sync we see 3-4times Bandwidth.Hi mistry7,NV2 Never Performs good in ac, and there are no Informations why, all our old 802.11nNow the max troughput total is 80Mbps of uplink to theses others towers, before with a Sextant-G(Level4) in NV2 in the place of the LHG 5ac the traffic was 120-150Mbps...
Tomorrow i go up to the top of the tower to change back to the old Sextant-G... hoping NV2 and 802.11ac work fine in a near future
P2P links are performing better with old Hardware, until we began to use another Vendor too.
With Mimosa and UBnT we are seeing speed increases about 3-4 times
with same Channel / Width / Interferrence.
what does you mean exactly when you say 3-4 times? I understand you compared mikrotik with ubiquiti/mimosa with same frequency/width/interference. What about TX power, antenna gain, MIMO type, test in udp or tcp?
If everything is the same for two vendors and you are working using 802.11n, to reach 4 times mikrotik speed, means you have 75Mbps with Mikrotik and 300Mbps with other vendors.
Is that correct?
170-180 Mbit wit 802.11 does not help really, because of Ping jitter, so it is impossible to deliver good voip services.Mimosa C5C in PTP mode, 40 MHz channel, modulation @ 400MBit over 5.5km with 27dBi Dishes from RF elements with max EIRP of 36 dBm, means about 280-290 MBit real TCP (iperf and 2 Laptops), for a short test we swapped the C5Cs against MT (RBM11 G + R11e-5HacD + shielded twist port adaptor) same channel same 40 MHz, same 36dBm, modulation varies between 324 and 400, with Iperf was only 170-180 MBit possible, with Nv2 even less.
C5C is normal 2x2 SMA Radio, not more then NetMetal etc....Mistry7, I have no experience on ubiquiti or mimosa, but it seems you are comparing not similar architecture. Even if you have all the same parameters in mimosa and mikrotik, C5C is a 4x4 MIMO, R11e is 2x2. It is normal you have a double bandwidth as in post
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=136002&start=100#p684307
Also if you hace GPS sync it is normal you get better results in noisy environment. You should compare a mimosa product with all the same features.
So, we can discuss Mikrotik lacks some features (4x4 MIMO or GPS Sync), NV2 is not really a stable protocol, or Mikrotik works well in clean environment, but brobably with the same architecture, feature and protocol, maybe the results are not so far each other.
I think is important to be clear talking about different vendors because some of us make their decition based on other opinion.
In noise environment Mimosa is a shit! only work fantastic in the best conditions...C5C is normal 2x2 SMA Radio, not more then NetMetal etc....Mistry7, I have no experience on ubiquiti or mimosa, but it seems you are comparing not similar architecture. Even if you have all the same parameters in mimosa and mikrotik, C5C is a 4x4 MIMO, R11e is 2x2. It is normal you have a double bandwidth as in post
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=136002&start=100#p684307
Also if you hace GPS sync it is normal you get better results in noisy environment. You should compare a mimosa product with all the same features.
So, we can discuss Mikrotik lacks some features (4x4 MIMO or GPS Sync), NV2 is not really a stable protocol, or Mikrotik works well in clean environment, but brobably with the same architecture, feature and protocol, maybe the results are not so far each other.
I think is important to be clear talking about different vendors because some of us make their decition based on other opinion.
C5C has not gps
OK, sorry but I follow your link of A5CC5C is normal 2x2 SMA Radio, not more then NetMetal etc....Mistry7, I have no experience on ubiquiti or mimosa, but it seems you are comparing not similar architecture. Even if you have all the same parameters in mimosa and mikrotik, C5C is a 4x4 MIMO, R11e is 2x2. It is normal you have a double bandwidth as in post
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=136002&start=100#p684307
Also if you hace GPS sync it is normal you get better results in noisy environment. You should compare a mimosa product with all the same features.
So, we can discuss Mikrotik lacks some features (4x4 MIMO or GPS Sync), NV2 is not really a stable protocol, or Mikrotik works well in clean environment, but brobably with the same architecture, feature and protocol, maybe the results are not so far each other.
I think is important to be clear talking about different vendors because some of us make their decition based on other opinion.
C5C has not gps
We don’t have fantastic conditions, on no place, 5 GHz is disturbt allIn noise environment Mimosa is a shit! only work fantastic in the best conditions...C5C is normal 2x2 SMA Radio, not more then NetMetal etc....Mistry7, I have no experience on ubiquiti or mimosa, but it seems you are comparing not similar architecture. Even if you have all the same parameters in mimosa and mikrotik, C5C is a 4x4 MIMO, R11e is 2x2. It is normal you have a double bandwidth as in post
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=136002&start=100#p684307
Also if you hace GPS sync it is normal you get better results in noisy environment. You should compare a mimosa product with all the same features.
So, we can discuss Mikrotik lacks some features (4x4 MIMO or GPS Sync), NV2 is not really a stable protocol, or Mikrotik works well in clean environment, but brobably with the same architecture, feature and protocol, maybe the results are not so far each other.
I think is important to be clear talking about different vendors because some of us make their decition based on other opinion.
C5C has not gps
Off topic: this is not disturb - We have in Czech Republic more than 60 ssid on P2P link.
We don’t have fantastic conditions, on no place, 5 GHz is disturbt all
over the hole band, no place where we don’t see 15-20 ssids
We have only 27-30dBmWe have small EIRP here in Germany 30/36 dBm,
But when you see all SSId with -60? Ubnt and Co are often used here form cameras etc, every IT company use them, and WISPs searching the Gaps...Off topic: this is not disturb - We have in Czech Republic more than 60 ssid on P2P link.
We don’t have fantastic conditions, on no place, 5 GHz is disturbt all
over the hole band, no place where we don’t see 15-20 ssidsMore then 100 SSID on 30degree horn antenna. In small city.
Here A5C really works great...
We have only 27-30dBmWe have small EIRP here in Germany 30/36 dBm,
Has anyone tested the newer RouterOS with these higher versions? Does NV2 link work normal?Someone tested in NV2 how is working the RBDynaDishG-5HacDr3 which is 802.11ac but has MIPSBE?![]()
This is not strange. Nstreme (v1) do the things via board CPU, while NV2 do that on the wireless card.Has anyone tested the newer RouterOS with these higher versions? Does NV2 link work normal?Someone tested in NV2 how is working the RBDynaDishG-5HacDr3 which is 802.11ac but has MIPSBE?![]()
Also, I find it odd that nstream would work and NV2 would not given that NV2 is short for "nstream version 2"
This is not strange. Nstreme (v1) do the things via board CPU, while NV2 do that on the wireless card.Has anyone tested the newer RouterOS with these higher versions? Does NV2 link work normal?Someone tested in NV2 how is working the RBDynaDishG-5HacDr3 which is 802.11ac but has MIPSBE?![]()
Also, I find it odd that nstream would work and NV2 would not given that NV2 is short for "nstream version 2"
Compare the CPU usage when set to nstreme and nv2! You will find, that using nstreme will consume 20-30% cpu even with low network load.
Also, mixing nv2 and nstreme in the same board (on different cards) is not a good way. They would interfere somehow even if the used freq very far from each other.
And what is the relationship to the topic?I am trying to hook my cell up to my laptop so i can get GPS on Network Stumbler and dont know how to go about doing this?
piss offI am trying to hook my cell up to my laptop so i can get GPS on Network Stumbler and dont know how to go about doing this?