unlicensed spectrum regulatory survey

server8 · Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:08 pm

Hi guys

I need a little help can you tell me the frequency ranges of unlicensed spectrum in your country?

For example: Spain [5470-5725] [5725-5875] [24000-24500] [xxxxx-xxxxxx]

I am not interested 2.4 Ghz wifi range

Thank you in advance for your help

server8 · Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:51 am

Hey guys

61 people view the post no answer, please lose 1 minute to help me

empy · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:46 am

perhaps all of them thought you could just use google...

pe1chl · Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:54 am

indeed!

server8 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:22 pm

I have downloaded frequency allocation plan of some european countires but it's no so easy to understand what frequencies are allowed for wisp.
In italy 24 and 17 ghz are legal only for private link but not to carry internet data, not allowed for wisp.
In germany 5725-5875 can be used as BFWA so it seems to be legal for wisp as 17 ghz and 24 ghz but I am not sure.
So a report from you guys help me a lot.
Thank you

perhaps all of them thought you could just use google...

pe1chl · Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:37 pm

When you need details for a specific country you can (just like us) download them from the authority of that specific
country. Please understand we are not going to do your homework, especially not when asked as broadly as you do.
(when you would have asked for a short list of countries and my country was on it, I would probably have given you
the relevant part of the local frequency plan)

Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:41 pm

You can do that in RouterOS too:

[admin@MikroTik] /interface wireless info> country-info 
country: latvia
  ranges: 2402-2482/b,g,gn20,gn40(20dBm)
          2417-2457/g-turbo(20dBm)
          5170-5250/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160(23dBm)/passive
          5250-5330/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160(20dBm)/dfs,passive
          5490-5710/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160(27dBm)/dfs,passive
          5190-5310/a-turbo(20dBm)/dfs
          5180-5300/a-turbo(20dBm)/dfs
          5520-5680/a-turbo(27dBm)/dfs,passive
          5510-5670/a-turbo(27dBm)/dfs,passive
          902-927/b,g,g-turbo,gn20,gn40(30dBm)

[admin@MikroTik] /interface wireless info> country-info 
country: russia
  ranges: 2402-2482/b,g,gn20,gn40(20dBm)
          2417-2457/g-turbo(20dBm)
          5170-5250/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160(20dBm)/passive
          5250-5330/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160(20dBm)/dfs,passive
          5650-5710/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160(20dBm)/dfs,passive
          5755-5815/a,an20,an40,ac20,ac40,ac80,ac160(20dBm)
          5190-5310/a-turbo(20dBm)/dfs
          5180-5300/a-turbo(20dBm)/dfs
          5520-5680/a-turbo(27dBm)/dfs,passive
          5510-5670/a-turbo(27dBm)/dfs,passive
          902-927/b,g,g-turbo,gn20,gn40(30dBm)

server8 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:56 pm

I did it but many docs are not in english and google translate don't help too much to translate legal documents

For me are many hours of works without to be sure to be right due to language problems and cultural differences for you is much less time.

This is a community and ask for an help is normal.

When you need details for a specific country you can (just like us) download them from the authority of that specific
country. Please understand we are not going to do your homework, especially not when asked as broadly as you do.
(when you would have asked for a short list of countries and my country was on it, I would probably have given you
the relevant part of the local frequency plan)

pe1chl · Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:59 pm

You can do that in RouterOS too:

That could omit important info. For example: the use of 60 GHz is (as per ETSI regulation) prohibited
for use with fixed outdoor installations here (and likely in most EU countries). Temporary use is permitted.
That does not get indicated in tables like that.
(I understand there is a proposed re-evaluation of that regulation but it is far from being changed)

pe1chl · Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:01 pm

I did it but many docs are not in english and google translate don't help too much to translate legal documents

For me are many hours of works without to be sure to be right due to language problems and cultural differences for you is much less time.

But you probably have a big commercial interest in it, when you want to know it for all countries (no specific list) and you are
not satisfied with sources like wikipedia which has a quite detailed list of this info...

server8 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:17 pm

@normis 5 ghz frequenzy is armonized in europe so we know for sure that 5470-5725mhz can be used but in Spain, Italy, Latuia, ecc SRD 5725-5785 mhz is free to use for wisp? In Italy is not allowed in germany and spain is allowed as BFWA but in the other countries? The same thing for 17 and 24 ghz here is allowed ONLY for privare links and can not be used to carry internet data.

server8 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:25 pm

I am a small wisp and I am collecting data to make a paper to understand how muchi my country (italy) is back. Here basically all is forbidden and a licensed 56mhz link costs around 5.000 euro per years at 18 ghz.

But you probably have a big commercial interest in it, when you want to know it for all countries (no specific list) and you are
not satisfied with sources like wikipedia which has a quite detailed list of this info...

pe1chl · Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:45 pm

In that case it is better to talk to your licensing authority and ask them what the motivation for certain decisions is.
To change it may be administrative but it may also be political.
It does not seem to make much sense to compile a global table of allowed spectrum and then wave that in front of them...
(I would not expect much result from that anyway, not even mentioning that you may find many countries where situation is more restricted)

server8 · Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:54 pm

It's political problem here the market and also the rules are done by big operators. We have to show to our regolatory board and to the government that italian rules are too restrictive, but without data we have nothing to show.

mistry7 · Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:59 am

Germany

Band 1: 5180-5320 only Indoor 200mW
Band 2: 5500-5700 In+Outdoor 1000mW
Band 3: 5755-5860 WISP Only, 4000mW

No 10,11,17,18 License Free

24GHz Offical only allowed in the same Property
200MHz , 20 dBm

38 GHz, Free to Use

60 GHz, Channel 2 is allowed Outdoor, all others only for non Petmanent use ( License will change this year, because paper is 10 years old, hopefully all channels allowed outdoor...)

server8 · Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:18 pm

Thank you mistry7 you are the first one answerd to me I hope another collegues help me.

How many MHz available in 38 GHz?

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