This really made me ROFL.Guys, calm down. Chill a little. Forget MT Wireless. It’ll be like a breakup with a girl: hard, painful, expensive at first, much work, but you’ll get over it.
I did. I miss RouterOS superior management and features, since I hate web GUIs and limited console configuration options, I sweared much, missed mac-telnet, torch, l2 and l3 firewall, super flexible bridge and endless other configurations.. but at the end of the day what matters the most? Right! User experience!. As long as it works ok, you don’t really care any of that above mentioned stuff and have your chilled margaritas Let MT sell wireless eq in developing countries where 2Mbps are still called broadband. We need much more advanced stuff and get used that MT fail to deliver it, so let’s just jump the boat and stop bragging.. P.S. .ax alone won’t save them, IMHO.
With "we", you likely mean the small WISP that offers internet access to a couple of local paying customers using a WiFi network.Now let's get back to reality.. In this 4G LTE and comming 5G era, we have no chance to compete with current MikroTik products.
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I'm not so sure 5G cellular is going to be the "bees knees". Cell companies still have to roll out their hardware and i've got no faith in 5G given the current results of tests done in Dallas, LA, and Chicago. It won't work through windows or much very well and i'm anticipating they will be nothing more than little wifi hotspots and it's mostly hype to generate more sales. I've been installing for them for 14 years since 2.5 G cellular. They use overpriced hardware that doesn't seem to perform well enough to justify the additional expense. The only thing the cell companies have is the ability to output at 300 times more power than ISM band WISPS. They have a huge budget, make record profits, and i'm sure they are lobbying to try and take over the 5Ghz to 6gHz band to further create more of a monopolistic situation to boost bottom lines and reduce competition from highly motivated small WISPS.
There is a bunch of interference in this valley. In Reality there are only 3 major tower sites where everyone and their brother co-locates to serve the 70-100 thousand inhabitants of this 6x10 mile valley. Spectrum and other local wired ISPs have most of the market share. However there are many people on the fringe who cannot use the 4g Network to operate, have low speeds from other ISPs, and the major players have no intention of providing services to the outlying areas, ever - without massive grants funded by further inflation and debt. I personally own a network that I paid cash for every component, after working for Cell companies and building their infrastructure and being beaten down by soulless huge spreadsheet management firms posing as capable construction management firms that pinch most of the profit and shed any responsibility.
In any case 802.11AX will likely perform as well or close to the expected performance of a nokia or alcatel or huawai base station. For the same price we can deploy 20 times the sectors and throughput with Mtik.. We already have a 5G style link performance with 802.11AD for a fraction of the price. I really don't see much better performance from 4G than 802.11AC in terms of realized throughput. You pay the additional premium for better quality, higher powered components, with redundant power supplies, HVAC, and proprietary algorithms for TDMA that makes the medium more friendly and adds tons of latency. Since most providers enabled Unlimited access, at times my service is worse than dial up at times. Fact is that there are not enough towers, and they are not motivated financially enough to add outside of the core community centers.
If you've got a small WISP, build out a site, hold the root lease, then sublet to the Cell companies for 2K per month and you can win both ways. Or start putting fiber in the ground, and use your tower assets to fire licensed links to small fiber loops in select areas where you already have a handful of wireless clients.... that's what I'm doing. And it's been very successful. I do feel us Small WISPs can fill a niche, and many folks would rather support a local company anyway than promote the corporate grab for concentrated power.
Don t know what your available Spektrum is. We need/use gps sync to get the performance we need.I don't understand al that whining abt MT not making it into the future...
I am a small 750 clients WISP in an area where at least 8 other providers are around.
60% of my network is now full 'ac' (with a load of 'arm' devices) and I run on most of my 40+ sectors plain 802.11 which still everytime again shows better results then NV2 (or nstreeme)
Yes, I tend to work with signal levels close to -50, anything higher then -60 will be up for an antenna upgrade or it must be on a small (<10 clients) AP.
Our plans are offering 50Mbps down, 5 up to our clients and so far we have a very satisfied customer base.
In one area to compete with fiber we have a Netmetal with 40+ SXT's and SXT'sq, all working in 802.11ac and we give them the 100/20 Mb plan...
The frequency even overlaps some other but in careful picking the 'pilot' channel it all works to satisfaction.
Due the pricing of MT hardware we can always compete on price with any of the 'bigger' providers and although we loose some at times (and get new ones back) we managed to have a stable and satisfied client base.
We use several 60Ghz links for the short backhal to satisfaction (ditched some Metrolinks over it. Unreliable and too costly). These 60Ghz works so good I tend to forget them in the update cycles we maintain since they simply always work.
Yes, MT has a learning curve and indeed, a lot of fine tuning can be done, and needs to be done. We also tried Mimosa but for the money we spend on that I regret I didn't wait a year and would have no all the same done with Mikrotik for much less money..
All my competitors use ubiquity but I see them struggling to get the same done as us and we see several of them trying other brands as well. So they must have their issues too...
We have 4G LTE since 2 years in our region, but to be honest... it sucks.. Where speeds very good the first weeks (way over 100Mbps, even in a moving car) that fell considerably the moment more people bought themselves 4G phone and started to watch their video over it. (And these same clients still want 'fixed' internet to their home).
For the rural area (but high housing levels) I don't see 5G going to deliver the promises neither. Their simply won't come enough towers to the region.
MT as usual takes time to bring new technology and needs even more to mature their ROS when the hardware is finally there, but for the price it makes still a economic model to wait maybe a year to do the same as any high level product but for a fraction of the price.
For instance eCambium with their new ePMP4000 product line is claiming higher CPE levels per AP but the price is also several times higher. And in the transition process you need to run two networks side by side. In the anology of taduikis this means you still need to keep the present girlfriend with all its merits while investing in the new one. And yes, you get screwed twice! They 'interfere with each other and we all know what that means!
For small WISPS with small budgets the niche market can still be profitable but you have to be smart and stick to the wife once chosen. If you are loyal you have to hope she (MT) is too and delivers us new hardware to sustain our marriage into the future!
This is Spain... we use like all the others, that what is available.Don t know what your available Spektrum is. We need/use gps sync to get the performance we need.I don't understand al that whining abt MT not making it into the future.............................................. our marriage into the future!
Yes that is the same hereOur 90% issues come from home Wifi.
MT Could have much better Soloutions if they here there coustomers
When I started this WISP 18 years ago the Spectrum was sort of desert. Now it's more like the battle of Austerlitz with too many parties and even the big army's (cell operators with their G4) make a mess with low coverage and illegal towers.... It's a war out here and if there would be any arbitrage 80% had to shut down and probably the richest (or the best 'friends in high places' = money) win. That is not me.....
As long as we all earn our daily bread and people get their internet we will survive... And MT makes it possible!
Is there no telecom authority in Spain?I know some operators even work 'out of band' in 100% illegal frequencies, some in 'grey' area (legal but too much power....) etc. just to keep the business going. Nobody denounces since everybody will see it then boomerang back.....
There are comparable rules/laws. But very different efforts enforcing this. And there are different capabilities (my guys here have an anritsu but bad antennas). I follow rules to avoid problems. And I see the sense in these rules. (Almost, as these DFS rules are not practicable (lead to service interuptions at times) and no vendor has a good/correct handling).Is there no telecom authority in Spain?I know some operators even work 'out of band' in 100% illegal frequencies, some in 'grey' area (legal but too much power....) etc. just to keep the business going. Nobody denounces since everybody will see it then boomerang back.....
Here in the Netherlands we get calls and/or letters from them when an outside AP operates on the indoor (low) channels, or on a radar channel without using DFS, or outside the band.
Operating too much power is a bit harder for them to prove. But on several occasions they actually mapped the frequencies of tower-mounted APs.