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NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:38 pm
by savage
Hi,

I'm still contemplating at this stage, but something tells me to just get the hardware and play with this... But a few questions here.. Looking at long haul, high throughput backhaul links, I'm planning a implementation where redundancy is NB critical.... Due to performance requirements (ASync links are definately a no go), I have no option here to go NStream2, which is fine. Now, due to the redundancy requirements, a second set of Mikrotik's are installed, and a second NSteram2 link is braught into the picture...

On the Ethernet side, it's easy enough to bring in redundancy over VRRP... But how on earth do I do this on NStream links? For this to work, all 4 radios on the WLAN must be able to see each other (default forwarding - on?), yet due to NStream2, the two masters will see each other, and the two slaves will see each other - the links will thus be independant, and VRRP will therefore not work on the Wireless segment... At the end of the day, these sites will act as a repeater (i.e. two NStream links per Mikrotik), with a drop off feed as a AP, either via a 5th radio, or Ethernet to an additional Mikrotik...

Any wise people out there with ideas??

Re: NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:24 am
by sergejs
Probably you can try substitute Dual Nstreme with bonding. As Dual Nstreme link will fail if one of the tx or rx will be unavailable, as bonding provide you with redundancy, probably it might be better solution for this particular link.
Bonding allows link to work, when one of the wireless link is failed.

Re: NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:26 pm
by savage
Thanks Serg...

Thought about that as well yes, but then I still sit with Async links - which is not ideal and I want to try and avoid that. However, you've given me a nice idea now about bonding the two NStream links... 54MB links thus it will potentially give me a 100MB Sync link, with redundancy, which sounds peachy.

Can you bond NStream though?

I'll see about getting some hardware together and see if I can play with this... It sounds interesting now... Would be fantastic if this will work... :)

Re: NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:08 pm
by sergejs
I can imagine bonding instead of VRRP on Site1 and Site2.
Yes this approach should give you better troughput, especially when both Dual Nstreme links are working.

Re: NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:01 pm
by cmit
I too would suggest running the two NStreme links and then use bonding to
a) create more overall bandwidth, when both links are up and running and
b) to create fail-over when one links is going down
I have not tried bonding NStreme2 interfaces on the same machine. Bonding does only allow for slave interfaces that are "ethernet-like", so ethernet and eoip (are the ones I know to work). Not sure if NStreme2 will work there. Worst case would be having a separate router to do the bonding of the two NStreme2-routers which would have to be connected via ethernet (cross-over-cable).

But then you again have a single point of failure, so you should think about VRRP-redundancy for the bonding-routers :-D (no, haven't tested that yet)...

Best regards,
Christian Meis

Re: NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:56 pm
by savage
Just for interest sakes...

Haven't tested this throughput wise yet, but 4 x radio's per site, 2 x N Stream Links running IPSec tunnels, EoIP Tunnels inside IPSec, with Bonding on the EoIP - works pretty well...

Something just tells me I've got heavy fragmentation waiting for me however... :lol: Will see what the performance say when I have some propper distance and antennae's between the sites...

Re: NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:07 pm
by GWISA
Waiting for the results with antici............ pation.... 8)

Re: NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:08 pm
by boardman
What happened with the results of these thread....


Best

Jorge Boardman

Re: NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:12 am
by maximan
Check the wiki, on mum argentina:
http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/A ... sicion.pdf

This is something like you are searching,
Use bonding!

Max
http://maxid.com.ar

Re: NStream 2, Redundancy?

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:15 pm
by yri
Check the wiki, on mum argentina:
http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/A ... sicion.pdf

This is something like you are searching,
Use bonding!

Max
http://maxid.com.ar
Is there export of its config?

some configuratione not ckear witj eoip tunels and in witch mode wireless there is?