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802.11n at MUM

Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:30 pm

Who was at the MUM? Was there an announcement of 802.11n?
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:11 pm

Nope
It wasn't neither announced an ETA
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:51 pm

Mikrotik did not say new infomation the "n mode". :?
This is a big problem.
But it showed the presentations of the licensed device. :shock:
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:55 am

That's too bad. I was really hoping that they would surprise us and say it is now released and stable.
We have a lot of customers both asking for and expecting 802.11n.

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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:02 am

they say
11n
gigabit lan
usb
so,whats new model ?
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:05 am

That's too bad. I was really hoping that they would surprise us and say it is now released and stable.
We have a lot of customers both asking for and expecting 802.11n.

Tom
I was hoping that too...
There are some other products that are using mimo in 5ghz with very good performance!
When MikroTik will do that?
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:01 am

MikroTik needs to get on the 802.11n band wagon quickly as I know of several providers looking to deploy links and hoping to use 802.11n. I was talking with another provider that we border with and do some joint work with and they said if MT doesn't offer an 802.11n product by March 15 they are going to order from another supplier because they've been waiting for 6 months.

Too bad that my "expectation" that was built up my Normis seemed to be crushed at MUM. It's not like this is super top secret stuff guys, there are several other providers with the equipment, give us a date please.... Or at least don't build up our hopes with posts like below:

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 98#p144198
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:30 pm

Is this real? No announcement about 802.11n? MT! What's happened? My last information was that you will make the announcement on the MUM.
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:19 pm

call me what you want i don't belev this anymore :?
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:33 pm

due to some technical issue that slowed down the release of [some things] we were not able to make the announcement, but it's not that far now anymore. just wait.
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:21 pm

I do really hope..
MT can have support on the 802.11n..

The 11a + turbo also is not sufficient for our deployment already.
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:13 pm

I do really hope..
MT can have support on the 802.11n..

The 11a + turbo also is not sufficient for our deployment already.
Hi. What are your requirements?

I have achieved 70mbps sustained with Turbo A.
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:01 pm

75mbps (TCP) for me. Instead of .n make a bonding :D
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:28 pm

Bonding is o.k. when you have only a small count of links at one location. If you have a high count of links you will have problems with the available spectrum ...

I will test now other equipment. Can't tell my customers "Wait!" without giving a timeline.
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:17 pm

Same thing they said year ago - "we are working on it"
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:31 pm

Normis,

How about some details as to what these technical difficulties are and maybe a time table? I think this could quite possibly be the biggest feature for Mikrotik of 2009, I know of a great number of people sitting on the fence looking for this to be completed or at least know when to expect it so they can plan accordingly. Even if it's not 100%, throw us a bone, maybe an alpha release or a 80211n-testing package set that will allow us to fire up some gear, play a bit, etc. I think everyone would like to know that the whole thing isn't vaporware.
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:14 am

My guess is that they have an 802.11n card of their own design in the works, and are waiting for stock to arrive from the contract manufacturer. Which would kinda explain why they did not show it or announce it at the MUM, and why 3.21 is taking longer than usual to be "released"

Fingers are crossed ;)

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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:12 am

I would put 20 on black (on that hardware thing nc_monkey said). I would not want to promote Ubnt also if they were giving away prizes to developers to usurp my own product.
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:10 am

that you may have given out some support for 802.11n?
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:30 am

Same here...

I saw a demo of an 11n bridge at Cebit almost a month ago. 90mbps sustained throughput using a single dual-pol antenna, and I know that Atheros's 11n chipsets can reach 170Mbps throughput on a 2x2. Try to sell MT gear against that stuff....

And please don't give me the bonding talk... I've used bonding several times, most of the times I've taken it off after a while.
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:47 am

802.11n interested me most because of increasing number of clients per antenna, because now most 11 to 802.11b, which makes me no-competitive, and once again have to invest in equipment and certainly lose money long-term.
means it is very urgent, because I do not know what is waiting if the card already in the sales, why no support for them?
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:06 am

Well, as the one month overdue mark has passed with no news, no updates, no specifics as to any possible future release date or even what these difficulties are, all I can say is I'm glad I didn't hold my breath. I think I would have died long, long, ago if I had. So, any news or do I just go ahead with other plans Mikrotik?

Thanks
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:51 pm

Bonding is o.k. when you have only a small count of links at one location. If you have a high count of links you will have problems with the available spectrum ...
Have you read about 802.11n? Exactly the same waste of spectrum bandwidth.
I saw a demo of an 11n bridge at Cebit almost a month ago. 90mbps sustained throughput using a single dual-pol antenna, and I know that Atheros's 11n chipsets can reach 170Mbps throughput on a 2x2. Try to sell MT gear against that stuff....
It seems that there are people that want to give a lot of mbps to their customers with 11n. Big, big mistake.
 
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:22 pm

It seems 11n is underrated.. big mistake.

Main features of 11n:
- True MIMO (especially when MT doesn't even support basic antenna diversity, while competing products are talking about antenna arrays, smart antennas, beamforming..).

- 2.5x more spectrally efficient than 11a/g. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectral_e ... ison_table



[O/T] If you look at the link above, it's interesting to see that a V.92 modem is the most spectrally efficient device, beaten only by LTE... talk about going back to the roots :) [/OT]
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Re: 802.11n at MUM

Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:18 pm

@nowires

I do not WANT to give the customers rate 50+ MBps. I MUST if I want to stay in business. Through raising penetration with fiber lines the offers are going cheaper and cheaper. It is only a question of time when wireless PtP-Links are not sellable here in this region. Missing of 802.11n shortens the rest time before quitting ...

If you think that is a failure please tell me what technology I should use? Licensed microwave links are to expensive for that price level...

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