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is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:57 am

hi guys, :)

i have a challenging requirement as a client wants a 50 kms non line of sight point 2 point link

what would you guys suggest. i want to use only Mikrotik products and non licensed bands.

this case is from india.

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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:46 pm

how much non-line-of-sight is it? is it partial line of sight, or completely blocked by buildings around all fresnel zone?

simple answer is - it's not possible.

complicated answer - if there is only one obstacle, you could try to bend the signal, or reflect it, but it's very difficult.
 
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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:55 pm

and remember, there is no spoon :)

For 50km, you need some strong equipments. My advice is to find a place to put a repeater/corner device (rb433 with 2 cards) to retransmit the signal.

In most of the cases, it's faster and better.
 
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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:28 pm

hi i have studied and it seems a repeater is just not possible.

anyways i can work with a direct link with 24dBi solid parabolic and a good radio....

my question remains....which radio??

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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:26 am

i suppose proxim might work in this scenario....

what say???
 
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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:59 am

You are not going to find a working 50km NLOS link using 900MHz, 2.4GHz or 5GHz. 900MHz is only good for about 5km or less in the NLOS world.

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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:17 am

On 3,5MHz or 7MHz with SSB or CW it's easy :))
 
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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:33 pm

Motorola makes a Non-Line-Of-Site backhaul set, REALLY expensive, and non-licensed.

Moto PTP58500
 
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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:20 pm

Depends alots, try doing that in N, use highpower cards like 27dbi and 1m antenna least, for 30km link worked for me, 100% ccq, there is only about 300meters of forest which block los.
 
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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:08 pm

I doubt it is going to work ...
 
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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:41 pm

If totally blocked and you can make it work with that distance..
i buy you a dinner... make sure you come malaysia...

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Re: is 50 kms non line of sight link possible??

Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:09 pm

i think it's not possible... first of all use motorolla PTP linkplanner, there you could test it and see all the way in google earth... ptp linkplanner is free download

second good linkplanner: http://www.ligowave.com/linkcalc/
need to register, found here, is better than linkplanner at my point of view..


probably you could make a try with parabol 1.2m at each side....

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