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Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:52 pm

hi all,

have "problems" to communicate with differentes networks.

i make a wds-bridge between 3 offices with rb411 L3

Office A distribute to B and C :

Office A:
Mode: bridge
ip: 192.168.1.30 (interface bridge)
Gateway: 192.168.1.11
Dns server : 192.1668.1.1

Office B:
Mode: station-wds
ip: 192.168.2.30 (interface bridge)
Gateway: 192.168.2.11
Dns server : 192.1668.2.1

at office B put other wds bridge to office C, because A to C NLOS (no light)

The bridges are ok and working brinding internet, but i can not make a ping office 2 to 1 and office 3 to 1 and 1 to the others office.

I had reading about masquerade, vlans, vpn,

What do you sugget me ?

Thanks all

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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:15 pm

I have tryed wds + tunnel and wlans, but the rb like brige doesnt work now, i can not access by web or winbox, lost pings and its imposible to get in configuration.

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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:44 pm

From your configuration, considering your locations have different subnets, I don't see why are you using bridges and WDS at all.

You should make a simple routed network, add routes to your border router, and NAT only that, if necessary.
Add static routes to each of your routers, or enable OSPF on them, though on that size of a network I don't think its' necessary.

It would only make sense to use WDS on your link if you wanted to use a single broadcast domain all over your net, and this is not the case as I see.
 
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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:07 pm

i create a wds-bridge because the idea is at office 2 & 3 get the routers out, and bring internet from office 1. But "the customer" want to conservate the subnets 2.x and 3.x because the switches and pcs have to be conservates with these ips.

Office 2 and 3 get internet from office 1, and only want to communicate by ends on each subnet.

Thnx and i will make test now at home with a rb411 land 1 rb411U.

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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:37 am

i create a wds-bridge because the idea is at office 2 & 3 get the routers out, and bring internet from office 1. But "the customer" want to conservate the subnets 2.x and 3.x because the switches and pcs have to be conservates with these ips.

Office 2 and 3 get internet from office 1, and only want to communicate by ends on each subnet.

Thnx and i will make test now at home with a rb411 land 1 rb411U.

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Is routers that separate subnets.
Other way is either vlans or I don't know what.
From what you are saying, you should have all three subnets on the same phisical structure, and you must add all three subnets on your border router. Add an ip from each subnet on that router, and make it gateway. Else, with all wds, you won't be able to ping different subnets each other, as they don't know about the rest.
 
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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:16 am

The same router for 3 subnets

Office 1
Router 192.168.1.11
lan 1.X

Office 2 Lan 192.168.2.x --- Router 192.168.1.11
Office 3 Lan 192.168.3.x --- Router 192.168.1.11

and get internet from 1

thnx and wait your comments, now im trying routed bridge , and read more .....

Im thinking to make wds-bridges with 192.168.4.X and at each office put a RB750G with dhcp 192.168.2.X and 3.X, and make routes.

for the RB's i have no problem, i have at home an "arsenal" of mikrotik :)

what do u seggest me to make this easier.)

thanks so much
 
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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:26 pm

Make them all routed, each router handles his own subnet. It does not matter how you connect thw wireless paths, as long as you can ping each end.
Add routes to each subnet on your border router.
Make this border router your default gateway for the other routers.

You have connectivity from all other subnets.

All done.
 
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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:54 pm

i was testing few things,

now i have made a bridge (bridge-Station) and make routes on Rb411 and on my router.

i have ping b to A but not A to B, and i have no internet and i can make ping to host B (192.168.2.X)to the gateway 192.168.1.1.-

i have done it like this links
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Enlaces_I ... n_RouterOS

this is similar i was looking for,....bring internet to other network by Wireless, and routed ips.

The "problem" is all routerboard are RB411 L3 and only work like bridge nor Ap-bridge.

i need to do more? , like create bridge on both and inside ether, etc (like wds) .----

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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:37 pm

As told before.
What is the purpose of WDS since you have a routed network and do not care about MAC ?!?
Put Ap-bridg -> Station for each wireless link. It does not matter for the performance, and in my opinion is much better and simpler than wds.
Put an IP address for each subnet on your border router, from where you get the internet, only if you have WDS. Else, put routes for these networks.
That's all.
 
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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:20 pm

RB411 works with L3 - -

No works on AP-Bridge, only Bridge. This is one reason to make wds-bridge.

summary:

We have 3 office, all of them have dsl, but in office 2 and 3 we take the dsl lines off because was very poor (rdsi), and now only have internet in office 1 with 10Mb

Now i have office 2 with 192.168.2.X and office 3 with 192.168.3.X but no internet,

Now im looking for a configuration to transport internet from office 1 to 2 and 3 but i need to keep the old subnets and comunicate each pcs of all office.

i was tryed router wireless bridge, but with L3, rb411 can works wih ap-bridge mode.
i make this configuration: http://www.34t.com/data/916Routed.exe (flash moviesteps)

i can make ping b-c to A but not a to others, and no internet (maybe for L3??? because at sample shows on ap-bridge mode, and i put bridge)

now im testing wds-bridge with rb750G. The idea is make ptp and each termination put a rb750g who takes internet from wds bridge and pool 192.168.2.x or 192.168.3.X deppend the office.

Now i have configurate rb750g like a switch and i have internet but in range 192.168.1.X, now i need to known how take internet from eth1 on 192.168.1.X and give automatics ips 192.168.2.X to the offcie 2 to the pcs in subnet 2 and same to office 3.
(at each office we have around 50 pcs, lan printers, etc, and this ios the reason what i want to keep older lan, and only change the GW on each pc, host, etc, or give it by dhcp).... and sorry 4 my english , itf from gibraltar ;)

any idea? suggestions.....

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Re: Wds-Bridge ok but No communications between lans

Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:28 pm

Hi guys,

Well, no all woks 85% :)

I have done wds-bridges , and them i have configurate rb750GB with Wan office 1 and Lan office 2 or 3.

Have ping to external, ping to 1 from 2 and 3 but i can make pings from pc's at office 1 (central) to others at office 2 or 3, Why?

i put routes on rb750G and on my router

rb750G:
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Wan 192.168.1.33 Ether 1 - gateway 192.168.1.1
Lan 192.168.2.1 Ether 2 with dhcp

thnx, I'm still and still looking for information -
Any suggest????

put route on my router
Dest=>192.168.2.0 subnet mask 255.255.255.0 => Defaul GW 192.168.1.33 (rb750 ether1 ip)

I

Pc on lan 1 can´t see office 2-3

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