Thanks for the reply - could the queues be done on the CPE rather than at AP concentrator as i would if possible offload any tasks to the cpe if practical.So for example set the AP pppoe concentrator at say 4Mbit bandwidth profile and on the CPE use the queue day night bandwidth to reduce it down to 1Mbit.Could just use simple queues as suggested on you concentrator and disable bandwidth control on your pppoe. Unfortunately you would have to create queue for each pppoe.