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Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:07 am

Whether MT will support these cards?
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:44 pm

AR9462 is a 802.11a/b/g/n and bluetooth card :)
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:20 pm

mmcx?
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:19 pm

AR9462 is a 802.11a/b/g/n and bluetooth card :)
wilocity 6120 chip is 60ghz gigabit 802.11ad .
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:39 pm

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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:28 am

Currently we don't support any type of 802.11ad, but we are reasearching the possibilities.
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:28 am

Currently we don't support any type of 802.11ad, but we are reasearching the possibilities.
Can you tell what with 802.11ac chipsets? Qualcomm has new QCA9800 chips - will they work with Mikrotik?
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:13 am

We are researching both, but we don't support any one of them at the moment.
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:31 am

why?
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:33 am

And in rc8 or rc9?
no, and not in rc10
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:05 pm

We are researching both, but we don't support any one of them at the moment.
It's good to here Mikrotik is already looking forward for upcoming standards!

Is there a plan to share results or some experiences of researches?
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:09 am

Hi Guys.

Has anyone been able to get their hands on one of these cards. Would love to start experimenting with them. looking for a 50 metre 60GHZ bridge

I notice the drivers are being incorporated into Linux, so might be possible to create a point to point bridge.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:11 am

It takes some time to make support for all the advanced RouterOS features.
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:29 am

It takes some time to make support for all the advanced RouterOS features.
For sure, I understand that from mikrotik point of view. I'm sure short range 60GHZ is not going to be a mainstream product. These cards were announced quite a while ago, basically what I am trying to find out is if I can get my hands on two, are they even available for purchase.

If someone made a cheap 60ghz point to point I would simply buy it and not worry, but nobody does...the existing solutions are simply physically too big for 50-100m hops and the price of them (sub10, bridgewave) does not make sense for such short links (over a road, etc)

In many scenarios we simply have to cross a road, building to building...
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:42 am

When will mikrotik support 802.11ad?

thanks in advance.
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:00 am

Athena Wireless has the A060mini 1000mbps FDD link in the 60GHz band. $5,995.00 (I use them.)

Siklu has the EH-1200FX 1000mbps FDD link in the 80GHz band. $6,080.00 (I have the $3,500.00 EH-1200LT on order. Only 700mbps TDD so 350x350 or 500x200).

Siklu has a new 60GHz link ((Coming soon))but I don't think it's gigabit full duplex and the price is to be determined.

There are three other companies working on small short range 60GHz units. But I don't think they will be at the super low price we all want.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:44 am

Athena Wireless has the A060mini 1000mbps FDD link in the 60GHz band. $5,995.00 (I use them.)

Siklu has the EH-1200FX 1000mbps FDD link in the 80GHz band. $6,080.00 (I have the $3,500.00 EH-1200LT on order. Only 700mbps TDD so 350x350 or 500x200).

Siklu has a new 60GHz link ((Coming soon))but I don't think it's gigabit full duplex and the price is to be determined.

There are three other companies working on small short range 60GHz units. But I don't think they will be at the super low price we all want.
Athena Wireless looks like the Huber&Suhner Devices which are now Sub10.

60GHz is a very good option for very short hops (up to 500m). 80GHz is usable depending on the country. You need a wide band so licensing cost may be very high. In some countries it is very cheap.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:14 pm

The Athina uses the same antenna and enclosure but the inside is Athena.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:58 pm

When will mikrotik support 802.11ad?

thanks in advance.
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Fri May 13, 2016 5:28 pm

When will mikrotik support 802.11ad?

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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Sat May 14, 2016 11:49 am

maybe SXT 60 ad :) ?:
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:28 pm

This would be an excellent product.

You would clean up from the fibre and cable companies in high density urban deployments.  Virtually no interference and an AP every ~500m.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:34 pm

This would be an excellent product.

You would clean up from the fibre and cable companies in high density urban deployments.  Virtually no interference and an AP every ~500m.
Yes. This is a good frequency for microcells. CPE Mounting is more complicated as it does not forgive misalignment.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:32 pm

If MT makes a CPE, let's hope they put a SFP+ port on it. It would also be nice to have a high power gigabit POE in and two POE out gigabit ports. We could use the POE for cameras or two more radios for a daisy chain and relay.

It looks like the fcc may be opening up another 7GHz of spectrum so the 60GHz band is about to get busy.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:22 pm

Does someone have new infos an mikrotik support 802.11ad?

thanks in advance.
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:43 pm

no mikrotik is sleeping on wireless news....
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:28 am

i guess it happen in age of 802.11ax adoption, which among other improvements - converge 60Ghz within it.
past-AX tech will borrow UWB tech from both bands, likely.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:46 pm

seems that Normis is drinking from february )) no news letter no devices no nothing xD
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:04 pm

Anyone considered laser as a PtP link? OK, it is not RF or Mikrotik, but it can work in some cases...

http://www.lightpointe.com/
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:30 pm

Anyone considered laser as a PtP link? OK, it is not RF or Mikrotik, but it can work in some cases...

http://www.lightpointe.com/
Yes. But this is a whole different thing. These Lasers need extreme good and stable mounting and they are sensible to fog and dust.

So yes. There are applications but very rare. I've seen unused links as the owner seized to use them due to problems.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:45 pm

Normis informed us, that Mikrotik ist investing the implementation von 802.11ad cards to Mikrotik since 2013. Nothing changed since this. I am a constumer since 1997, our whole WISP system and our whole data center is using Mikrotik Hardware. But If Mikrotik will not change something in inplementing new and needed drivers, we have to leave Mikrotik. I am very upset, about this. If a Wisp is using Ubiquiti, you have 24 Ghz, 11 Ghz, 3 Ghz, 2.4 Ghz, 5.4 Ghz and much more possibilities. Mikrotik is bringing nothing for WISP's anymore.

So my last question about this, will there be a solution for 60 Ghz, Wigig, 802.11ad? Please Normis inform us.

thanks in advance.
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:57 pm

I don't even have an ac router.
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:49 pm

Normis informed us, that Mikrotik ist investing the implementation von 802.11ad cards to Mikrotik since 2013. Nothing changed since this. I am a constumer since 1997, our whole WISP system and our whole data center is using Mikrotik Hardware. But If Mikrotik will not change something in inplementing new and needed drivers, we have to leave Mikrotik. I am very upset, about this. If a Wisp is using Ubiquiti, you have 24 Ghz, 11 Ghz, 3 Ghz, 2.4 Ghz, 5.4 Ghz and much more possibilities. Mikrotik is bringing nothing for WISP's anymore.

So my last question about this, will there be a soluetion for 60 Ghz, Wigig, 802.11ad? Please Normis inform us.

thanks in advance.
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Doing the whole network with one vendor is not a good idea. No vendor is best with all equipment. As you noticed MT falls back on wireless. Not every new vendor is as good as he claims. Ignite 60 GHZ is a big fail. Quite unstable. They have to replace a lot of their units. Mimosa does not get their SW done. ... So select cairfully and test a lot ...
 
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Re: Qualcomm 802.11ad card

Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:58 am

seems that Normis is drinking from february )) no news letter no devices no nothing xD
And suddenly:
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