Hello
I have an Mikrotik server, client (demo mode), and a madwifi server,client.
I have now mixed setup i.e. for example Mikrotik server, madwifi client and
want to do comparisons betwenn mikrotik, madwifi performence.
It seems that mikrotik bandwidth test is something proprietary not iperf (or is it netperf?).
How can I install iperf on mikrotik or the mikrotik client on "normal" linux?
ping-flood is no alternative ...
Thanks and greetings
Beat
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Hi, is there any chanc that you will add support for Iperf
as we cant test through the router, as our line of service stop at the router
the customer has his PC on the LAN so we neet to test against the router
we need to tast on the router as we dont have access to any of the PC on the LAN
we need to test the line not the router
(we sell ADSL connections with RB450)
as we cant test through the router, as our line of service stop at the router
the customer has his PC on the LAN so we neet to test against the router
we need to tast on the router as we dont have access to any of the PC on the LAN
we need to test the line not the router
(we sell ADSL connections with RB450)
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Explain better please..
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Another vote for IPERF here too.
IPERF is an accepted international standard and follows RFC2544.
The point of what the two posters are saying above, and also for our own needs, is to run a test from one end of the carrier's circuit to the other.
Using IPERF on a PC requires two people to run the test one at each end of the link - which could be hundreds of kilometers away.
We have a Microtik in our CORE. When the tech does an install at the customer's premises we want them to do the IPERF test through to the CORE. This way we can show the customer that we are delivering what was bought.
BTEST does not report latency, jitter or packet loss like IPERF does. These are all important stats in the RFC2544 test.
Alternatively rewrite BTEST to follow the standards of RFC2544 like IPERF does (but then you are just writing another version of IPERF)
IPERF is an accepted international standard and follows RFC2544.
The point of what the two posters are saying above, and also for our own needs, is to run a test from one end of the carrier's circuit to the other.
Using IPERF on a PC requires two people to run the test one at each end of the link - which could be hundreds of kilometers away.
We have a Microtik in our CORE. When the tech does an install at the customer's premises we want them to do the IPERF test through to the CORE. This way we can show the customer that we are delivering what was bought.
BTEST does not report latency, jitter or packet loss like IPERF does. These are all important stats in the RFC2544 test.
Alternatively rewrite BTEST to follow the standards of RFC2544 like IPERF does (but then you are just writing another version of IPERF)
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
why not use btest for windows?
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Hello everyone!
I'd be really happy if iperf appeared in one of the future versions of the RouterOS. Here's why:
The company I work for is an IPTV operator that provides a television signal for local ISPs around the country. As you've probably guessed, we require high-quality networks where the signal is carried without any disturbances (extremely low packet loss rate, minimum jitter etc.).
Since our service is based on multicast transmission, we can measure the network's performance by setting up an iperf server on the headend and place the clients deep inside the network - they join the iperf's multicast group and provide reliable statistics.
A PC can be placed in the ISP's server room, but on the "last mile" a testing device must be much smaller. We've been testing iperf on such platforms as ALIX, but they were not powerful enough (so they produced distorted results). Their capabilities-to-price ratio was too small as well, so we're still looking for a better alternative.
That's why a good idea would be to test how iperf would behave on RouterBoards... in several cases we're using RB750's to provide an OpenVPN tunnel for demonstration of our service and it works really very well, so maybe more powerful RB's would be useful for us as well
I'd be really happy if iperf appeared in one of the future versions of the RouterOS. Here's why:
The company I work for is an IPTV operator that provides a television signal for local ISPs around the country. As you've probably guessed, we require high-quality networks where the signal is carried without any disturbances (extremely low packet loss rate, minimum jitter etc.).
Since our service is based on multicast transmission, we can measure the network's performance by setting up an iperf server on the headend and place the clients deep inside the network - they join the iperf's multicast group and provide reliable statistics.
A PC can be placed in the ISP's server room, but on the "last mile" a testing device must be much smaller. We've been testing iperf on such platforms as ALIX, but they were not powerful enough (so they produced distorted results). Their capabilities-to-price ratio was too small as well, so we're still looking for a better alternative.
That's why a good idea would be to test how iperf would behave on RouterBoards... in several cases we're using RB750's to provide an OpenVPN tunnel for demonstration of our service and it works really very well, so maybe more powerful RB's would be useful for us as well
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
I think it is very important to implement something like Iperf inside Routeur OS so that we can deliver RFC 2544 tests to clients, or use Mikrotik routers as a small sized field tester.
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
What about some image for metarouter with iperf, has anybody it?
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Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Guys
To get information about link quality you have fields like:
CCQ
P Throuput
diffrence between Frames and HW Frames.
You can tell straight away from those values is link ok or not.
If you want to compare madwifi client and routeros client what is problem in building test network ?
nevertheless in testing world there is a very important rule:
Never measure device using device itself. Results will never be proper due to the fact that traffic generator uses CPU cycles that could be used to transmit data so even if you get throughut latency can vary etc.
To get information about link quality you have fields like:
CCQ
P Throuput
diffrence between Frames and HW Frames.
You can tell straight away from those values is link ok or not.
If you want to compare madwifi client and routeros client what is problem in building test network ?
nevertheless in testing world there is a very important rule:
Never measure device using device itself. Results will never be proper due to the fact that traffic generator uses CPU cycles that could be used to transmit data so even if you get throughut latency can vary etc.
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Iperf is a good tool but very basic.
But for precise QOS measurements, hardware testers are the only way to go.
But for precise QOS measurements, hardware testers are the only way to go.
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Iperf is an industry standard ! Mikrotik has to support it.
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
I would not say that Iperf is an "industry" standard.
It's a standard yes, but it does not have industrial strength neither all functions needed to finely analyze QOS problems.
I would be interested to see something better than Iperf inside Router OS.
RFC 2544 is crap when you are in need of precise measurements for VoIP or Video quality.
Something really better, based on the more modern and usefull standard "EtherSAM" (ITU-T Y.1564) would be a nice addition. I would even be ready to pay for the price of of Router OS licence to get an EtherSAM option.
Unfortunatley, EtherSAM is only available on expensive hardware testers.
You can have details here :
http://documents.exfo.com/appnotes/anote230-ang.pdf
EtherSAM is a true industrial standard.
Iperf and RFC2544 are things of the past.
It's a standard yes, but it does not have industrial strength neither all functions needed to finely analyze QOS problems.
I would be interested to see something better than Iperf inside Router OS.
RFC 2544 is crap when you are in need of precise measurements for VoIP or Video quality.
Something really better, based on the more modern and usefull standard "EtherSAM" (ITU-T Y.1564) would be a nice addition. I would even be ready to pay for the price of of Router OS licence to get an EtherSAM option.
Unfortunatley, EtherSAM is only available on expensive hardware testers.
You can have details here :
http://documents.exfo.com/appnotes/anote230-ang.pdf
EtherSAM is a true industrial standard.
Iperf and RFC2544 are things of the past.
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Industry standard doesnt mean that it should have industrial strength.
It means that it is interoperable in between other vendors in the industry, making it a standard industry vise.
Even we cant use linux to bandwidth test to a RouterOS router and vice-versa.
MT bandwidth test now is not compatible with anything.
Thats why it has to be based on IPerf.
It means that it is interoperable in between other vendors in the industry, making it a standard industry vise.
Even we cant use linux to bandwidth test to a RouterOS router and vice-versa.
MT bandwidth test now is not compatible with anything.
Thats why it has to be based on IPerf.
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Iperf is not a standard.
RFC2544 and EtherSAM ITU-T Y.1564 are standards.
RFC2544 and EtherSAM ITU-T Y.1564 are standards.
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Iperf is used more often by more people than hardware testers, I like them as they do provide much more detail but if you need that level of detail you wouldn't be running a software router like ROS.
Plus it's more likely that that MT will take something like Iperf who has full source code out there and chuck it in ROS than have to come up with their own implementation of 156sam.
Plus it's more likely that that MT will take something like Iperf who has full source code out there and chuck it in ROS than have to come up with their own implementation of 156sam.
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
Or start an opensource EtherSAM implementation ?
I've always found iperf too much simplistic as soon as you need detailed statistics on WAN links.
You can use Router OS CPE and be in need to have detailed QOS tests reports for Data - VoIP shared links. Iperf will not give you that.
Iperf does not include multiple streams tests. This is important for VoIP where you need to mix data and VoIP stream, sometimes video as well, on WAN links.
Ethersam is a simple way to test that the WAN links and routers are well configured for VoIP - Data shared links.
I've always found iperf too much simplistic as soon as you need detailed statistics on WAN links.
You can use Router OS CPE and be in need to have detailed QOS tests reports for Data - VoIP shared links. Iperf will not give you that.
Iperf does not include multiple streams tests. This is important for VoIP where you need to mix data and VoIP stream, sometimes video as well, on WAN links.
Ethersam is a simple way to test that the WAN links and routers are well configured for VoIP - Data shared links.
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
I perform a lot of wireless surveys using Airmagnet that has the facility to perform Iperf surveys. I would be hugely beneficial to have iperf running as a service, with tftp server, dhcp server etc. I would be the one stop network tool kit that I require when working on site.
I don't suppose there is a way to install iperf on routeros, albiet not supported... ?
I don't suppose there is a way to install iperf on routeros, albiet not supported... ?
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Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
can you help on how to use btest for windows?.. thanks & regardswhy not use btest for windows?
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
download it from mikrotik.com/download, enable btest server on router (tools i guess) then insert ip of router and click test.
nice and easy
nice and easy
Re: Mikrotik bandwidth test software; using iperf?
A solution to add EtherSam (Y.1564), RFC2544 and OAM management capability would be to use smart SFPs on Mikrotik SFP enabled routers.
http://www.aimvalley.com/portfolio_item ... smart-sfp/
or
http://www.oesolutions.com/products/smartsfp/
http://www.aimvalley.com/portfolio_item ... smart-sfp/
or
http://www.oesolutions.com/products/smartsfp/
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