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The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:36 pm
by americanmcneil
Since it has been confirmed that a new version is indeed in the works:
Post subject: Re: The Dude is dead. Move on.
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We plan to make a new Dude release at end of Q3, we plan to fix the known issues and introduce some new features. The Dude is alive.
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Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:52 am
by normis
It is one of the things on our to-do list, yes.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:33 pm
by americanmcneil
Any chance you can give us a quick rundown of the "fix list" and added features list?

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:59 pm
by americanmcneil
So is there a release date yet?

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:06 am
by normis
We have some big features planned for the Dude, but like I said above, end of Q3 or later this year.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:46 am
by glenk
Just started using 4b3. Can you confirm that the next release will fix the problem where the maximum link speed is 4294967295 (its called snmp speed in the dialog box)?

Can we have 10 gigabith ethernet added as a default link type in the next version as well?

We have quite a few 20 Gigabit links (2*10Gb paired) that we will not be able to accurately monitor.

Regards Glen

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:53 am
by glenk
duplicate post

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:30 am
by normis
we plan to make a bugfix version first, some time during september. keep fingers crossed!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:41 am
by taduikis
I will. Can't imagine life without The Dude anymore. Mikrotik, please don't abandon it.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:01 am
by americanmcneil
Any word yet on the release date for the new version?

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:25 am
by brof
Still have my fingers crossed, nearly the end of month, hoping to see something soon :-)

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:54 pm
by AnRkey
Very excited, waiting anxiously :)

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:17 pm
by voxframe
And?

We are no longer in September.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:23 am
by shrek777
When dude error fix will be published, now is octomber

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:24 am
by otgooneo
I guess MT guys develop Dude like wireless controller :-) It will be cool...

The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:56 pm
by cbrown
I guess MT guys develop Dude like wireless controller :-) It will be cool...
It would be great if it also had this ability.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:03 pm
by tripflex
I agree with a post in one of the other threads, if there were plans to abandon The Dude it would be awesome to have it released to open source so developers can help build on to an already amazing software.

Mikrotik, please let us know if there is ANYTHING we can do to help in the process of moving The Dude along, i know myself as well as a few others who don't even use the forum would be more than happy to help out wherever needed.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:43 pm
by MichelePietravalle
I agree with a post in one of the other threads, if there were plans to abandon The Dude it would be awesome to have it released to open source so developers can help build on to an already amazing software.

Mikrotik, please let us know if there is ANYTHING we can do to help in the process of moving The Dude along, i know myself as well as a few others who don't even use the forum would be more than happy to help out wherever needed.
+1!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:02 am
by dimonix
I agree with a post in one of the other threads, if there were plans to abandon The Dude it would be awesome to have it released to open source so developers can help build on to an already amazing software.

Mikrotik, please let us know if there is ANYTHING we can do to help in the process of moving The Dude along, i know myself as well as a few others who don't even use the forum would be more than happy to help out wherever needed.
+2! :)

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:31 am
by popcorrin
I agree with a post in one of the other threads, if there were plans to abandon The Dude it would be awesome to have it released to open source so developers can help build on to an already amazing software.

Mikrotik, please let us know if there is ANYTHING we can do to help in the process of moving The Dude along, i know myself as well as a few others who don't even use the forum would be more than happy to help out wherever needed.
ditto

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:47 pm
by marioclep
we plan to make a bugfix version first, some time during september. keep fingers crossed!
Normis... can I uncross my fingers? :D

Please tell us something about nwe DUDE...

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:47 am
by iam8up
we plan to make a bugfix version first, some time during september. keep fingers crossed!
Normis... can I uncross my fingers? :D

Please tell us something about nwe DUDE...
It has been two months since the planned bug fix release...

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:40 pm
by voxframe
Normis, what's going on?

Please don't be like Ubnt with bad time announcements :D

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:09 am
by normis
The Dude is our hobby project. It's free of charge and we can only make it when we have time from our RouterOS and RouterBOARD projects, so there are no deadlines that I can promise.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:23 pm
by benjamimgois
In my opinion, maybe it´s time to make poll and see if the Dude community would be willing to pay for better/faster dude development. Entire companys have their network plants based on Mikrotik Dude, so... Maybe it´s time for a "Dude Professional Version"

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:38 pm
by americanmcneil
In my opinion, maybe it´s time to make poll and see if the Dude community would be willing to pay for better/faster dude development. Entire companys have their network plants based on Mikrotik Dude, so... Maybe it´s time for a "Dude Professional Version"
+1

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:05 am
by tomaskir
In my opinion, maybe it´s time to make poll and see if the Dude community would be willing to pay for better/faster dude development. Entire companys have their network plants based on Mikrotik Dude, so... Maybe it´s time for a "Dude Professional Version"
+1
+100

I would have no problem paying a reasonable price for The Dude to have its development continue and to have the problems solved.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:43 am
by otgooneo
In my opinion, maybe it´s time to make poll and see if the Dude community would be willing to pay for better/faster dude development. Entire companys have their network plants based on Mikrotik Dude, so... Maybe it´s time for a "Dude Professional Version"
I agree

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:18 pm
by honzam

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:36 pm
by americanmcneil
Hey Normis, any movement on this yet? Any info is appreciated!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:28 pm
by sparker
I look forward to the new version of The Dude. If necessary - are willing to pay! Make us a gift for the New Year! =)

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:50 pm
by iam8up
We are willing to give you money for a working fully functional Dude. You stated your issue is that it is a hobby project. The user base is giving you a solution. Simply charge $50 for a key just like RouterOS and then fix it, please!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:27 pm
by ohara
I am reading this and wondering if this is caused by mismanagement or simply lack of C# developers in Latvia. Maybe somebody will be read to launch a branch office outside of Latvia and hire 2 devs to get the project rolling.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:08 pm
by normis
I'm sorry that we have not released anything, but like I said above, currently Dude is free of charge, so we can't just hire additional people for it. We will consider what to do with the Dude in near future.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:59 pm
by americanmcneil
Thanks for the update Normis, please let us know what you can as you can. I do appreciate it!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:44 pm
by jcem
Mikrotik is looking for C /C++ programers

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... hp&act=url

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:16 pm
by Ozelo
I would like to help with the dude development, as I am a programmer.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:06 pm
by doush
Instead of keeping the project in-house, why you dont just release it as an open source project and let the development continue ?

Odp: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:48 pm
by ohara
This would be suicidal for a company with such growth potential. Providing SDK libraries for self development purposes would be more appropriate.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:48 pm
by americanmcneil
Hey Normis, any word yet on the latest release?

Thank ya sir!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:28 pm
by maxkrok
why any replies? Sunny Croatia, wine and dudes are the best replies...

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:31 pm
by alexspils
Normis, any news?

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 1:04 am
by brof
Hi Normis,
Any further updates on your comments from Jan...

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:57 pm
by voxframe
Normis, any news???

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:07 am
by dmcdon
I hope MikroTik has considered open sourcing the Dude or making a sellable product. The Dude is great tool and works well most of the time, when there are issues -- usually we find the answers online.

It would be good to know if we should keep investing in the Dude or start working with other products.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:33 pm
by uenderson
I'm sorry that we have not released anything, but like I said above, currently Dude is free of charge, so we can't just hire additional people for it. We will consider what to do with the Dude in near future.
Normis, any news???

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:31 pm
by dmcdon
I'm sorry that we have not released anything, but like I said above, currently Dude is free of charge, so we can't just hire additional people for it. We will consider what to do with the Dude in near future.
+1

Is no news - Good News?

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 5:40 am
by nimbo78
I'm sorry that we have not released anything, but like I said above, currently Dude is free of charge, so we can't just hire additional people for it. We will consider what to do with the Dude in near future.
I would like to ask you about 'near future' - Has Mikrotik some plans considering The Dude soft or it will be 4.0b3 forever?) just for info, no requirements. thnx a lot!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 10:33 am
by brof
After using dude for so many years I'm moving off to a new system with support and updates....going to cost our customers $2500 AU for each site but I believe its worth it.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:43 am
by Duduhandelman
Brof.
What you will be using? I was unable to find something like the lovley Dude.
I would be very happy to pay for the Dude.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:19 am
by Kreacher
After using dude for so many years I'm moving off to a new system with support and updates....going to cost our customers $2500 AU for each site but I believe its worth it.
The one thing is TheDUDE and the other thing is another thing!

You will never find a tool like TheDUDE because there is no one!
In our business we need something for a really great network and
we are using PRTG, Kentix and APC for monitoring alarming and saving
our network and servers, we get detailed reports and alarms bei Email
and SMS instantly without no problems. But PRTG unlimited sensors
is on by the cost of something around ~13.000 € and its also worth!

But it is not really reaching and matching TheDUDE with all his options!!!

As I really see it right it would be good to get a 64Bit version of TheDUDE
natively coded for Linux or exactly for CentOS, so it can profiting from
big or many CPUs and a huge amount of ram, thats it in real what I would
love to see.

So everybody is able to hug up the appliance he is needing, from an Alix APU Board,
to a Soekris net6501 over a Tyan S5533 board up to a supermicro servers, likes we
need it.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:19 am
by chojrak11
As I said in another post I think Mikrotik lost the sources and the original developer of The Dude, otherwise I can't imagine giving up on such a fantastic business opportunity. It's easy to improve The Dude and sell licenses. Literally EVERYBODY would buy license without much thinking, because everybody thinks it's the best monitoring tool (and it still has much more to offer). So, Mikrotik, you're losing MILLIONS of dollars by missing your users expectations.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:37 pm
by Kreacher
@chojrack11

Free of charge like now (4.3Beta) Native 64Bit client running on
- WHS2011 & SBS2011
- Windows Server 2012
- CentOS, Debian, OpenSUSE, RetHad
- MacOS, MacOS Server

......a Native Linux OS like CentOS 32Bit & 64Bit as an appliance ISO image
- Lan & WAN management DEMO for home and private usage (up to 50 devices)
- LAN & WLAN management 300 € (up to 200 devices)
- LAN & WLAN management 500 € (up to 600 devices)
- LAN and WLAN management & controlling 800 € (1500 devices)
- LAN & WLAN management & controlling 1000 € (unlimited devices)
+ Plugin system for user based own written plugins
+ Trainings lessons 150 €

Linux based (CentOS) MikroTik real Radius Server & HotSpot system with
50 different billing methods 2000 €
+ Plugin system for user based own written plugins
+ Training lessons 200 €

MikroTik VPN & The DUDE APP for 5 €
- iOS
- Android
- Windows 8.1
- MacOS

NAS based Plugins (QNAP, Synology & Tehcus) for around 20 €
- The DUDE Free Free
- Big usermanager + user DB 20 €
- MikroTik Radius Server 5 €
- MikroTik VPN Server with OpenVPN full support Free
Can be all connected together for working with a RouterBoard from the CCR product line!
As I said in another post I think Mikrotik lost the sources and the original developer of The Dude
And? If so, what would being worse to earn 20 million dollars in total (all in all) and
giving the original author 5 millions from that money, but having a really good basis and
The DUDE is going on to growing up will be able to be a very good helper or supporter of
the entire MikroTik product line?

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:50 pm
by nimbo78
@chojrack11

Free of charge like now (4.3Beta) Native 64Bit client running on
- WHS2011 & SBS2011
- Windows Server 2012
- CentOS, Debian, OpenSUSE, RetHad
- MacOS, MacOS Server

......a Native Linux OS like CentOS 32Bit & 64Bit as an appliance ISO image
- Lan & WAN management DEMO for home and private usage (up to 50 devices)
- LAN & WLAN management 300 € (up to 200 devices)
- LAN & WLAN management 500 € (up to 600 devices)
- LAN and WLAN management & controlling 800 € (1500 devices)
- LAN & WLAN management & controlling 1000 € (unlimited devices)
+ Plugin system for user based own written plugins
+ Trainings lessons 150 €

Linux based (CentOS) MikroTik real Radius Server & HotSpot system with
50 different billing methods 2000 €
+ Plugin system for user based own written plugins
+ Training lessons 200 €

MikroTik VPN & The DUDE APP for 5 € €
- iOS
- Android
- Windows 8.1
- MacOS

NAS based Plugins (QNAP, Synology & Tehcus) for around 20 €
- The DUDE Free Free
- Big usermanager + user DB 20 €
- MikroTik Radius Server 5 €
- MikroTik VPN Server with OpenVPN full support Free
Can be all connected together for working with a RouterBoard from the CCR product line!
As I said in another post I think Mikrotik lost the sources and the original developer of The Dude
And? If so, what would being worse to earn 20 million dollars in total (all in all) and
giving the original author 5 millions from that money, but having a really good basis and
The DUDE is going on to growing up will be able to be a very good helper or supporter of
the entire MikroTik product line?
good idea!
but still no answer from MikroTik..... =(

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:08 pm
by Hammy
I too would appreciate a native Linux version of the Dude.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:27 am
by cloudhopping
Well ... If the authors are gone... perhaps they could just opensource the code.
Amazing what might happen if that were to be done.

I am just now learning the Dude - and gotta tell you - i think it is great.
There are some things we would like it to do better - however it is a great application.

(and yes native linux would be huge)

Having been on management within an opensource project - i gotta tell you it could grow huge if it were opened up...
but time will tell...

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:12 am
by Jfabiopd
Give a look to www.netxms.org, it will surprise!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:34 am
by chojrak11
Give a look to http://www.netxms.org, it will surprise!
It did surprise me, honestly :)
I'm going to try it out.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:40 pm
by benjamimgois
Dear Network Engineers and The Dude users,

In my last effort to see The dude alive i´m creating a online petition in Change.org asking Mikrotik to release The Dude Source Code. I would like to ask everyone that still come to this forum and also like this awesome application to sign the petition and let´s hope that someone in mikrotik will see it...


https://www.change.org/p/mikrotik-relea ... m=copylink

Best regards...

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:20 am
by chojrak11
Dear Network Engineers and The Dude users,

In my last effort to see The dude alive i´m creating a online petition in Change.org asking Mikrotik to release The Dude Source Code.
I signed the petition. Hoping to see the Mikrotik management reading this I can suggest the alternative to releasing code, if you afraid of your Intellectual Property (the wonderful user interface framework). Resume development and make The Dude non-free, sell it let's say for $100 yearly, nobody will complain and everybody will be happy.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:30 pm
by benjamimgois
Dear Network Engineers and The Dude users,

In my last effort to see The dude alive i´m creating a online petition in Change.org asking Mikrotik to release The Dude Source Code.
I signed the petition. Hoping to see the Mikrotik management reading this I can suggest the alternative to releasing code, if you afraid of your Intellectual Property (the wonderful user interface framework). Resume development and make The Dude non-free, sell it let's say for $100 yearly, nobody will complain and everybody will be happy.
Thanks chojrak11,

I´m directing the petition to support@mikrotik.com and to John Tully the mikrotik CEO. Please help spred the petition on social media and other forums so we can be viewed. Fingers crossed.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:13 pm
by chojrak11
Dear Network Engineers and The Dude users,

In my last effort to see The dude alive i´m creating a online petition in Change.org asking Mikrotik to release The Dude Source Code.
I signed the petition. Hoping to see the Mikrotik management reading this I can suggest the alternative to releasing code, if you afraid of your Intellectual Property (the wonderful user interface framework). Resume development and make The Dude non-free, sell it let's say for $100 yearly, nobody will complain and everybody will be happy.
Thanks chojrak11,

I´m directing the petition to support@mikrotik.com and to John Tully the mikrotik CEO. Please help spred the petition on social media and other forums so we can be viewed. Fingers crossed.
I did it already. I have response that something big is being worked on, but I suggested official info would be beneficial, as my post is not authoritative for many users.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:21 pm
by doush
Imagine a company writing "routing the world" in their logo, but saying us that their managment platform is a "hobby project" !

This is really unbelivable.

No one is asking the Dude for free. Make it licensed and paid ! Design to have yearly licenses and obligation to run on a device connected to internet so no one cracks it and use it for free.

We are ready to pay for it. Just listen to your customers and start developing it (if you havent already lost the source code or the developers behind it which I suspect that too).

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:25 pm
by chojrak11
Imagine a company writing "routing the world" in their logo, but saying us that their managment platform is a "hobby project" !

This is really unbelivable.

No one is asking the Dude for free. Make it licensed and paid ! Design to have yearly licenses and obligation to run on a device connected to internet so no one cracks it and use it for free.

We are ready to pay for it. Just listen to your customers and start developing it (if you havent already lost the source code or the developers behind it which I suspect that too).
Can you read?
I have response that something *big* is being worked on

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:36 pm
by normis
Dude was never a management tool. It is a monitoring tool with a map view. Most it could do is run an external program like Winbox or do SNMP walk. It is a nice tool, but let's not overstate what it is.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:47 pm
by Hammy
Dude was never a management tool. It is a monitoring tool with a map view. Most it could do is run an external program like Winbox or do SNMP walk. It is a nice tool, but let's not overstate what it is.
Firmware upgrades are management. That's the only management type feature I can think of at the moment, but still management nonetheless. At the time, it was likely the most advanced management utility in the industry, despite missing so many "normal" management functions.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:53 pm
by jarda
Dude was never a management tool. It is a monitoring tool with a map view. Most it could do is run an external program like Winbox or do SNMP walk. It is a nice tool, but let's not overstate what it is.
Sure. There is no real market willing to pay. Few tens of potentially paying customers are not able to cover the costs. There are other paid really management tools, but they have quite much wider possibilities. Dude is nice due to its minimalistic approach and usability. It has other advantage. Working dude is able to boost the mikrotik devices sales. Having it paid is something like paying for winbox or netinstall... Now kill me for my opinion.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:01 pm
by chojrak11
Dude was never a management tool. It is a monitoring tool with a map view. Most it could do is run an external program like Winbox or do SNMP walk. It is a nice tool, but let's not overstate what it is.
Normis, it is you who **understate** usefulness of The Dude. You aren't real users of Mikrotik. You should definitely listen to those people who **REALLY BADLY** need this tool (bugfixed and updated). And they want to pay for it.

My idea is that you should organize formal meeting on the next MUM and discuss that (mostly listen!) And then implement all suggestions.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:00 pm
by benjamimgois
Dude was never a management tool. It is a monitoring tool with a map view. Most it could do is run an external program like Winbox or do SNMP walk. It is a nice tool, but let's not overstate what it is.
Normis, there´s a online petition for opensourcing the Dude. Could you give us any official statement about mikrotiks position about it ?

https://www.change.org/p/mikrotik-relea ... ource-code

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:41 pm
by robjuniorg
Any news about opensourcing the Dude?

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:50 pm
by honzam
Today info:
Yes, we are working on the new Dude version at the moment.

Regards,
Sergejs

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:34 pm
by chechito
The Dude its great but i prefer mikrotik to use all their resources to maintain routeros an router-boards getting better and better every day.

For example its more important rb3011 and dualband accesspoint for wlan than Improve the dude

THe dude serves to small networks like a sharm, i have 10 instances of the dude for small clients without problem.

If your network its big, invest on PRTG or another or build a nagios box

The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:21 pm
by jarda
I am very happy that years of tears everywhere around the world may end in expectations of dude coming from its grave. Hope we can see some real proof of it soon.

Nothing against what chechito wrote, I agree with him. But everything has to be done and the time is already up in all those cases!

On contrary to him I believe in new nice and big dude that will beat all other similar softwares and bring absolutely new level of administration experience to ros powered devices.

Go ahead mikrotik!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:19 am
by nimbo78
Today info:
Yes, we are working on the new Dude version at the moment.

Regards,
Sergejs
Yeaaaaaaaaah!!!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:08 pm
by benjamimgois
Today info:
Yes, we are working on the new Dude version at the moment.

Regards,
Sergejs

Lol !!! It deserves a celebration ! Honzam, can you please give us some details ? Everyone is waiting for it for a long time.

Thank you for the answer !

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:11 pm
by jstump
The Dude its great but i prefer mikrotik to use all their resources to maintain routeros an router-boards getting better and better every day.

For example its more important rb3011 and dualband accesspoint for wlan than Improve the dude

THe dude serves to small networks like a sharm, i have 10 instances of the dude for small clients without problem.

If your network its big, invest on PRTG or another or build a nagios box
Ideally, the development of the Dude wouldn't impact the development in other areas of the company.

Speak for yourself please. A new version of the Dude means more to me (and our company) than rb3011 or dualband radios... We use their routers extensively and the Dude is a great map of our network and a central way to manage. We run it in conjunction with PRTG, which we use more for detailed stats.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:02 pm
by maxkrok
Today info:
Yes, we are working on the new Dude version at the moment.

Regards,
Sergejs
How naive you are...If there would some truth then it would be answered in details and shown on the official site... This several letters does not mean anything except new lies...

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:00 pm
by honzam
Today info:
Yes, we are working on the new Dude version at the moment.

Regards,
Sergejs
How naive you are...If there would some truth then it would be answered in details and shown on the official site... This several letters does not mean anything except new lies...

I do not think so. Normis wrote in another topic that -> the new DUDE by the end of the year...

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:12 pm
by Sob
Did he write what year he means? And if so, was he really sure about it? You know, there have been a case or two of MikroTik's plans being a little off in the past. ;)
I'm waiting with the celebration until the new Dude actually runs on my hardware.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:55 am
by ste
The Dude its great but i prefer mikrotik to use all their resources to maintain routeros an router-boards getting better and better every day.

For example its more important rb3011 and dualband accesspoint for wlan than Improve the dude

THe dude serves to small networks like a sharm, i have 10 instances of the dude for small clients without problem.

If your network its big, invest on PRTG or another or build a nagios box
Ideally, the development of the Dude wouldn't impact the development in other areas of the company.

Speak for yourself please. A new version of the Dude means more to me (and our company) than rb3011 or dualband radios... We use their routers extensively and the Dude is a great map of our network and a central way to manage. We run it in conjunction with PRTG, which we use more for detailed stats.
+1

Prtg is a great tool but it is not usable to keep an overview of a wisp network. It can't replace the Dude.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:33 pm
by npero

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:38 pm
by juanvi
Yeah! Want to see more!

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:59 am
by slech
From http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Th ... stallation
Overview
The Dude is free software, no purchase is necessary. You can download The Dude from the MikroTik web page, in the download section. When selecting the required instruction set you will see Client software of the Dude, as well as server package NPK file for The Dude server side in RouterOS.
System requirements for client
The Dude client should run on pretty much all of Windows versions starting with Windows XP. Client program does not require much resources so low spec windows computers for monitoring needs will do just fine.

The client can also be used on Linux and MacOS if using Wine or Darwine respectively.
System requirements for server package.
RouterOS:
v6.34rc13 or newer
Hardware:
MikroTik CCR series hardware
RouterOS x86 installations
RouterOS CHR environment


Note: Use of dude server package is not supported on other hardware.
From http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Th ... ude_server
New The Dude server package is only made for CCR series, x86 and CHR hosts. It wont be supported on other devices. At least for now.

It seems that Mikrotik team changed Dude monetisation strategy.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:15 am
by juanvi
I think is only question of hardware resources.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:04 pm
by ste
I think is only question of hardware resources.
Anyone tested this Version? Any changes to 4.0beta3?

Of course I would buy another CCR just to run the dude if there is no Windows Version.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:55 pm
by alexspils
where to download new dude? i download section i see only 4beta3.... :(

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:04 pm
by ste
where to download new dude? i download section i see only 4beta3.... :(
This is a package for ros.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:17 pm
by alexspils
ok, and where is this secret package?

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:27 am
by ste
ok, and where is this secret package?
Cant find it in extra packages. Included in main package ???

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:50 am
by normis
Not released yet :)

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:59 am
by ste
Not released yet :)
Just teasing :lol:

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:15 am
by normis
Just to clarify, don't expect much, we are basically releasing the same as we had in v4beta3, but compatible with new RouterOS and some slight changes. It will just make the base to build on, so it is only the start.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:22 am
by ste
Just to clarify, don't expect much, we are basically releasing the same as we had in v4beta3, but compatible with new RouterOS and some slight changes. It will just make the base to build on, so it is only the start.
This is great nevertheless. My problem now is that I cant use Dude to update CPEs. If this is solved I am happy again.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:43 am
by normis
Just to clarify, don't expect much, we are basically releasing the same as we had in v4beta3, but compatible with new RouterOS and some slight changes. It will just make the base to build on, so it is only the start.
This is great nevertheless. My problem now is that I cant use Dude to update CPEs. If this is solved I am happy again.
It will not be solved in the first release, but we are aware already, and it is on the priority list

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:33 am
by CyberTod
Most important thing for me is upgrading from the old Dude without losing configuration.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:09 am
by Chupaka
The same here. We're on v3.6 now, and if v4 is out of Beta now, I'd like to upgrade :)

Will new Dude be upgraded together with RouterOS, or it's independent package?

Will client upgrade itself automagically?

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:57 pm
by normis
The same here. We're on v3.6 now, and if v4 is out of Beta now, I'd like to upgrade :)

Will new Dude be upgraded together with RouterOS, or it's independent package?

Will client upgrade itself automagically?
The new Dude will need to be upgraded together with RouterOS, just like other NPK packages. The client will have to match the server version, so you will have to keep your "Dude servers" at the same version, if you have several.

Migration of backup files can be done from v4beta3, not sure about v3.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:58 pm
by normis
Most important thing for me is upgrading from the old Dude without losing configuration.
We have already made a guide for migration from 3/4 to new Dude:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Th ... nToNewDude

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:02 pm
by ste
Is it possible to send SMS alerts from the Dude on CCR using a USB UMTS Dongle? We do this with Dude on Windows now. We dont want to use an external SMS-Gatway as we wont get noticed if something on the path to this Gateway is down.

Re: The Dude is NOT Dead - New Dude Version...

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:14 pm
by normis
Is it possible to send SMS alerts from the Dude on CCR using a USB UMTS Dongle? We do this with Dude on Windows now. We dont want to use an external SMS-Gatway as we wont get noticed if something on the path to this Gateway is down.
Dude client is still the same and can run things on your Windows machine.

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:16 pm
by jarda
Normis, you have shown a picture where the dude package was part of mipsbe ros pack. Is or will be the mipsbe architecture supported too or what will be with it? What about windows support as operating system for server side of dude?

Re:

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:19 pm
by normis
Normis, you have shown a picture where the dude package was part of mipsbe ros pack. Is or will be the mipsbe architecture supported too or what will be with it? What about windows support as operating system for server side of dude?
We will only make the server for CCR and X86 (and CHR), this will speed up development and make it easier to fix all the issues. It will also ensure there is plenty of power and space in the routers (otherwise hAP lite users would be disappointed). Windows server is no more, but you could just launch a Virtualbox installation of RouterOS CHR with the Dude server and it will be basically the same.